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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Jim Eshelman » Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:20 am

You're quite right, Mike. In fact, to show how "boilerplate" it is, here is the current output from a project I'm working on to automatically generated natal chart interpretation element. It's not done yet - in fact, what follows doesn't have anything for the rising Mars - but it might be of interest.


Donald Trump - Male Chart
Jun 14 1946, 10:54 am, EDT +4:00
Jamaica New York, 40°N41'29'', 073°W48'22''
Geocentric Fagan-Allen Zodiac
Campanus Houses


MOON

MOON IN SCORPIO
Socially active party-people: good-natured, friendly, humor. Willing to be outlandish. Factually forthright; emotionally cautious (withholding); senses others’ motives. Sexual volcanoes: built pressure needs explosive release. Sexually pragmatic. Frequent relationship drama; combative. Easy to anger (it passes). Bold, adventurous, restless, "try anything." Gossip (sometimes vindictive). Beliefs likely unorthodox.

MOON IN THE 4TH HOUSE
Needs emotional security. Emotionally attached to home, parents (mother), and heritage. Family-spirit, domestic. Nurtures, but needs nurturing. Powerful emotions mobilized protectively. Strongly sensitive to psychic tone of the environment and its occupants.

MOON ASPECTS
OPPOSITION THE SUN Orb 1°43' Applying
Energetic, dynamic, terrific drive, forceful. A mental-emotional attitude biased toward success. “At home” with power. Intense desire in whatever they undertake. High vitality (unless the luminaries are afflicted). Sexual desires also particularly strong, passionate, though often narcissistic. Possible vanity, self-exaltation, and obstinacy.

OPPOSITION URANUS Orb 3°19' Separating
A specie of genius (intellectually rebellious, roving, curious, investigative) is bursting to express itself – not wholly comfortable accepting outside guidance, often wondering why others don’t recognize its nature. Inquisitive, original, futuristic, seeking novelty & needing variety (“will try anything twice”). Free-spirited: psychologically lives outside of convention; but subject to tensions and stiffness from emotional stress.

SUN

THE SUN IN TAURUS
Charming, good-hearted, tolerant, forthright. Loves peace, beauty, nature, comfort, simplicity. Devoted friend, keenly understands people. Willingly vulnerable, open; feels things powerfully. Erotic (sexually, sensually, philosophically). Deeply loving parents. Prolific in all areas of creativity.

SUN IN THE 10TH HOUSE
Awareness of authority within self and others (paternal bias). Achievement-oriented, responsible, managerial. Proud. Probable success in career.

VENUS

ASPECTS OF VENUS
CONJUNCTION SATURN Orb 1°55' Separating

Work, duty, devotion give especial pleasure. Also, various restrictions (even hardships) in love. Work (with an eye to service) is inherently gratifying; ordinary pleasures may be delayed or sacrificed for responsibilities. Many seem comfortable alone (unpartnered), though there is rarely any sexual restraint (often quite the opposite). Childhood hardship or deprivation often exists (physical or emotional) that shapes adult patterns; many move far from their birthplace to restart their lives. Sober, responsible. Willing to pragmatically sacrifice (even sell-out) whatever they need to, for something more important to them.

MARS

MARS IN LEO
No interpretation has yet been prepared for this.

ASPECTS OF MARS
CONJUNCTION THE ASCENDANT Orb 3°12' Separating

No interpretation has been written for this.
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by FlorencedeZ. » Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:36 am

staragewiz wrote:
Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:49 am
If there was ever a chart that validated the Sidereal Zodiac.. this is it!
Very true Mike.
Plus his Uranian temperament (Sun and Moon tied with Uranus) shows his recklessness IMO and his Sun trine Mars the bully. :shock:
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by SteveS » Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:29 pm

So true starage, Trump's very nasty 2018 SSR will reap what he has been sowing, IMO.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Lance » Fri Mar 16, 2018 6:04 am

Regarding the January 26 prediction, I do think it significant that obstruction of justice trended really high that day in the Internet searches.

But another thing that’s interesting was that it was in January that the Stormy Daniels Stuff came in to play. But it was around January 12, so I don’t know how much weight to give it.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by DDonovanKinsolving » Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:39 am

Donald Bradley would occasionally venture into how astrological archetypes worked their way into language, so in this general category I noticed an odd coincidence. Trump's Mars and Ascendant are near Regulus, which are all in the Vedic asterism Magha. Trump's signature slogan "Make America Great Again" is abbreviated MAGA. Interesting, but is it random, or is there indeed some deep connection through astrology here (as I doubt any astrologer had a hand in it)?

I do not see any astrological connection to the proposed new slogan KAG, "Keep America Great" (and it sounds too dissonant).

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Sat Mar 17, 2018 1:45 pm

It appears January 26th was around the time Mueller's group subpoenaed papers and files from Trump's private business. Perhaps the exact date the subpoenas were served? Don't know. But that would have given Trump a very very bad day.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by SteveS » Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:09 pm

As, I have stated before, when it comes to actual known events/manifestations in politics--so much is hidden from us-- the public. Makes it somewhat confusing for us astrologers when we don't see malefic manifestations occur with blatant malefic charts.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Avshalom Binyamin » Sun Mar 18, 2018 1:12 pm

Also... I wonder...

Considering that the election day was a very bad day for Trump (based on both accounts and his chart)...

And if he is a Russian asset, blackmailed through kompromat, he doesn't have the dignified out of resigning or confessing or really doing anything but fighting a doomed fight against Mueller, and hope for a last-minute rescue of some kind.

Maybe we should be looking for a day of relief in his chart? A day when all the fighting comes to a close.

After all, isn't there a saying that suspects who are wrongfully arrested don't sleep well, while the guilty ones sleep like a baby?

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by SteveS » Sun Mar 18, 2018 1:25 pm

I hear you Avshalom. I have been saying with more than one post, Trump will come under his greatest threat of being 'topple' from his throne beginning with his June 14 2018 SSR, which has the par-excellent angular aspect of SSR Saturn (rising) partile 90 his Natal Neptune, Bradley's par-excellent combo for being toppled from a throne.

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SLR 6/26/18

Post by Jim Eshelman » Wed Mar 28, 2018 6:53 pm

Take a look at Donald Trump's June 26 SLR. Seeing the chart is better than my describing it... but here is the breakdown.

t Pluto on EP (0°19') [sq. Uranus 2°15' in mundo]
t Saturn on Asc (-2°42')
t Sun on Dsc (-2°57')
-- Sun-Saturn op. (0°14' in mundo)

t Saturn sq. r Neptune 0°57'
t Sun sq. r Neptune 0°30'

r Jupiter on MC (-6°42') - sq. t Pluto 1°56'
r Sun on Dsc (+6°56')
r Mercury on Dsc (-8°06')
r Moon on Asc (+8°33')

Middleground: t Mercury conj. r Venus 0°12'

He manifests, from the mundane arrangement, a Moon-Sun-Jupiter T-square with Jupiter culminating, but it is squared by Pluto's transit. The main body of the SLR, with Pluto plus Sun opposite Saturn (partile) - square his natal Neptune! - is startling.

This is the first SLR after his new SSR. The SSR is touch, though admittedly nowhere near this tough.
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by SteveS » Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:08 am

6/26/SLR, should produce a significant Sun-Saturn incident if not hidden from public, possibly a burdensome separating situation.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:48 am

SteveS wrote:
Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:08 am
6/26/SLR, should produce a significant Sun-Saturn incident if not hidden from public, possibly a burdensome separating situation.
If it were an ingress chart iunstead of a personal lunar, "death of the president" would be a likely interpretation (or some milder version of the same idea).
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by SteveS » Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:54 am

Could be his health Jim.

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Trump-Mueller Bi-Wheel

Post by staragewiz » Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:14 pm

Robert Mueller Born 8/7/1943 in NYC Time Unknown
Nonetheless this Trump-Mueller Bi-Wheel reveals the war between
these two adversaries. Mueller's Mars on Trumps Wash. DC locality MC
paran-sq Trump's Natal Mars/ASC. While Mueller's Saturn close aspect
on Trump's Sun opp. Moon. Ouch!
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Jim Eshelman » Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:49 pm

I hadn't seen all this. Very cool.

To spell it out a little differently, including the mundane placements, we can place Mueller's chart in Trump's mundoscope (deleting precession first). Using noon for Mueller, we get:

Trump's Mars is 0°34' past Asc at White House
Mueller's Mars is 0°25' past Trump's WH MC

That's an 0°11' mundane square!
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Lance » Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:58 pm

Comey’s birth time is unknown, so I used Noon.

Look at that solar opposition..

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:18 pm

Sun opposite Sun indeed!

But only one of them has Sun on the other's Moon. Comey is the natural "top" in that relationship.
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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:58 pm

Jim Eshelman wrote:
Thu Apr 12, 2018 8:18 pm
But only one of them has Sun on the other's Moon. Comey is the natural "top" in that relationship.
Explains Trump's enmity toward Comey right from the beginning. Also Comey towered over Trump, who prefers men who are shorter than he is.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Lance » Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:18 am

Paraphrased from the synastry section: “Mars may hinder Uranus’ dreams and goals.”

Man this is just too perfect.

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Re: Donald Trump

Post by Lance » Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:22 am

One Sun (Trump) transgresses the other (Comey) and earns a Saturn (Mueller) conjunct his Sun.

How perfectly karmic.... How astro-mythopoetic.

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