Birth Natal Chart Reading 2023

General Discussion on Natal Astrology matters for which a specific forum does not exist
Post Reply
User avatar
Element
Luminary Member
Luminary Member
Posts: 63
Joined: Sun May 22, 2022 4:07 am
Gender:

Birth Natal Chart Reading 2023

Post by Element » Sun Sep 10, 2023 6:22 am

https://i.postimg.cc/QMQPJtQL/astro-24g ... 213046.png

This is my birth chart,if anyone want to give a read,fine.

User avatar
Jim Eshelman
Are You Sirius?
Posts: 17675
Joined: Sun May 07, 2017 12:40 pm
Gender:

Re: Birth Natal Chart Reading 2023

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Sep 10, 2023 8:58 am

Hi, Element. That's a Tropical chart, so nobody here will read that directly. To make things easier for anyone who wants to answer, I'll give the birth data you gave earlier: September 20 1986, 5:25 AM EEDT, Thessaloniki, Greece. (You're still living at your birthplace, correct?)

In response to your request, I don't remember if I ever did a general workup on your natal chart. I'll do this in the next few minutes and post it in the next comment. (These are just pieces of your birth chart, but give a start in having a conversation about the whole of it.)
Jim Eshelman
www.jeshelman.com

User avatar
Jim Eshelman
Are You Sirius?
Posts: 17675
Joined: Sun May 07, 2017 12:40 pm
Gender:

Re: Birth Natal Chart Reading 2023

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Sep 10, 2023 9:44 am

These notes on your Sidereal Natal Horoscope are provided for your reference and study. They are not a full interpretation of your birth chart. Rather, they are building blocks from which a full interpretation can be built. Each factor below contributes to your character. The paragraphs may repeat or contradict each other (we all have contradictions). While it does not take an astrologer to fuse these factors into a balanced picture of you and your life, it does require knowledge of human behavior and how we support and sabotage ourselves. Your astrologer can help you in this life-long undertaking of knowing yourself. Read these notes slowly: Feel your way through the interweaving ideas, reflecting on what you know of yourself.

Character is destiny. Who you are determines the life that is yours to unfold. “Know thyself” is the key.

The paragraphs are brief. We have sought to pack in everything essential, to use few words to imply much more. Not every phrase will apply, of course. Some will be more important than others; but the gist of each section should clearly reflect truth about you. When you have spent time with this and have new questions, consult your astrologer to discuss them.

Saturn and Mars are your strongest planets. You are a Virgo with a Piscean style.


Saturn on Nadir (0°01’)
INDEPENDENCE, RESERVE, STRUGGLE. Needs to be independent, self-sufficient, self-reliant, private. Survival instincts drive much of the behavior. Industrious, conscientious, methodical, driven (works hard). Struggle (hardship especially in youth, struggle for security, burdensome life demands, or struggling on others' behalf): some are beaten down, most gain strength and endurance. Cautious, prudent, emotionally reserved and careful (may shut others out). Strong parent themes.
More detail: viewtopic.php?f=15&t=38#p188

Moon in Pisces
Distinctive characters: actors in a personal legend (oriented and secure within its familiarity). Satiates senses, excites imagination, fascinated with the unknown and enchanting (explorers), relishes having a secret side. Seeks storybook relationships. Faith (spiritual), optimism, inspiring, motivating, yet haunted. Aesthetic, drawn to the fanciful. Music, artistic. Eros vs. morality.
More detail: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=34&p=153#p153

Moon octile Saturn (0°08’)
Proud, self-made. Hardworking, persistent, self-driving. Usually emotionally reserved, private. Seeks to control situations and relationships. Parent issues (nourishment-deprivation). Judgmental, intolerant, distrustful, resisting. Can be pessimistic, feeling inferior, anxious, depressed.

Moon trine Uranus (0°51’)
Intellectually rebellious, roving, curious, inquiring. Not wholly comfortable with outside guidance. Original, futuristic, needing variety. Free-spirited: psychologically lives outside convention. Subject to tensions, emotional stress.

Moon square Mars (1°13’)
Active and reactive, temperamental, thinks and acts rapidly, restless. Driven, competent, ambitious. Impatient, acerbic, irritable. Frank and sharp-tongued (hence friction in close relationships). Needs physical, emotional, and mental “room to breathe” (little domestic instinct). Substance abuse not uncommon. Sexual needs are strong, almost irrepressible.

Sun in Virgo
Curious, mentally sharp, strategic, tactical, analytical, logical, scrutinizing, encyclopedic, preserves information. Favors trees over forest. Bashful yet brazen. Respectful, tolerant, sociable, serious. Courageous in word and deed. Service-minded, conscientious. Active toward social progress (rarely radical). Androgynous traits.
More detail: viewtopic.php?f=13&t=35#p160

Sun octile Uranus (3°25’ M)
Go their own way, unapologetically following their own paths, persuaded that they are a special case. Easily bored. Loves freedom: bows to no outside authority. Progressive, future-oriented, uninhibited by convention. Self-perspective usually founded in objectivity.

Mars in Sagittarius
Passionate beliefs and interests (moral courage). Idealist foremost (yet pragmatic). Sincere, devoted, studious (what seems like diligence is really love or zeal for a subject). Innovative, ambitious, strategic, exacting. Generous and encouraging expanding others' worlds. Thrives in vintage styles. Branded social identities (air of mystery or fantasy). Often identified with ideologies, -ists, & -isms.

Mars octile Saturn (0°01’)
Struggle marks these lives (from prejudice or early hardship). Hardened, tough survivors, self-sufficient, seeking control. Some accept the hardship and focus on “getting through;” some act meek, unthreatening; others overcompensate as bullies (feelings of weakness, shame, inadequacy). Conflicts with authority. Serious, reserved, cautious about enthusiasms.

Mercury in Virgo
Curious, observant, methodical, analytical. Quiet, almost soft-spoken, good-natured (maybe too passive). To-the-point communication (journalist). Logical, strategic: Wants the facts before deciding, considers all sides.

Mercury square Neptune (1°09’ M)
Dreamers, storytellers. Can enthuse, enroll, and convince someone of almost anything. Hyper-responsive to environment and perceptions, extreme sensitivity to sense impressions (may include psychism). Magnifies trivialities, fixates on particulars (often perfectionists); thus, often uncanny memories. Loves puzzle- or problem-solving, often in fantasy modelling; gets much pleasure and psychological relief from fantasied problem solving. However, commonly avoids real problems by obsessing over fantasy problems. Many adapt readily to systematized thought modes of math and science.

Venus in Libra
Social graces (courteous, polite, approachable, entertaining). Desires romantic partnership (its absence is a wound hard to heal). Requires and gets loyalty and faithfulness. Sexual extremes of indulge-gratify or deny-withhold. Secretive (closeted) about sex life except in an established relationship. Acclimates to imperfect circumstances, can “make things work.”

Venus conjunct Pluto (3°32’ M)
Instinctively rejects arbitrary (moral and other) values on love, sex, art (may inadvertently challenge social codes). “All or nothing” intimacy: In human connection, the feeling is, “go cosmic or go home.” Seeks deep connection (sometimes overwhelming intimates) or withdraws from others innocently (or due to rebuke and exclusion). Few intimates: most are of unfiltered intensity. Sexual development may come late (adolescent social rituals seem perplexingly arbitrary). Eruptive trouble in relationships. Can be commandingly charismatic.

JUPITER
Jupiter square Uranus (1°56’)
Mind interested in and well-suited to science, philosophical inquiry, and self-inquiry (knack for astrology). Success through unlikely paths (likely to succeed and distinguish themselves). Committed to progress, instinct for exceptionalism. Ingenuity, insight (sees outside the usual maps, pathways, and systems; thinks on a broader scale). Respectful while unbeholden to artificial rank, class, or caste (it is unimportant to them); gently resists authority (conflict with authority), speaks truth to power, stands against injustice, egalitarian (social activist).
Jim Eshelman
www.jeshelman.com

User avatar
Jim Eshelman
Are You Sirius?
Posts: 17675
Joined: Sun May 07, 2017 12:40 pm
Gender:

Re: Birth Natal Chart Reading 2023

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:31 am

Regarding future trends, here is a look at the most important.

As you know (as we discussed last year), your "birthday chart" (Solar Return) for the year beginning 20 September 2022 was really rough. Saturn was the strongest factor. Though your Venus was rising, Saturn squared it: We knew in advance it would be an emotionally hard, disappointing year requiring you to work hard, with lots of demands, etc. if you were at birthplace for your birthday.

This next year will be kinder. It suggests LOTS of change. It isn't entirely easy - there will be struggles to face (especially emotionally) - and you won't necessarily be kind to yourself. (The world will treat you better than you treat yourself.) But the overall impression is DEFINITELY more positive than last year. Here is the breakdown of the chart:

t Venus on Dsc -4°53'
t Pluto on Asc -0°37'
-------------------------
t Uranus on IC +1°43'
r Mars on Asc +2°42'

t Moon-Saturn sq 2°10'

t Uranus sq r Mars 0°59' M

Notice that you don't have last year's Saturn (or its square to your Venus) but does have transiting Venus strong. The hard part is the Moon-Saturn square.


Separate from your Solar Return, the most important thing in your chart is Neptune's transit opposite your Sun. I told you about this last year: It marks about two years when the major life experience (the major developmental step) starts with dissolving your sense of who you are and where you're going in life. (That is: People under this aspect tend to stop having any certainty about who they are and where they're going.) I know this feels pretty unbearable to you, yet we need this sort of thing sometimes (tend to emerge from it with greater clarity and refreshed purpose). The major time of your Neptune-Sun transit is approximately April of this year through February 2025 (almost two years).

The most emotionally challenging, discouraging periods are likely to be when crosses your Descendant and squares your Midheaven. You're already in this phase (you've been through a lot of these Saturn transits this year). Saturn will return to square Midheaven late October through November. It will cross your Descendant in January. For most people (especially with strong Uranus-Pluto in the Solar Return) I'd say this is just a time of a lot of work and maybe starting to say good-bye to some things in preparation for big change. (We never get BIG CHANGE without saying good-bye to some things - never get a NEW LIFE without surrendering the old one.) I'm more concerned for you because of how you have described your psychological condition: Saturn on your angle (as it has been all summer) while Neptune is opposite your Sun can be very hard emotionally: You should be in therapy right now, or otherwise having a strong emotional support system of someone who will call you on your wrong ideas.

The Saturn-Descendant transit is also Saturn square your Saturn. This is always a turning point, a time when we face the limits we've placed on ourselves and have to struggle with them (and hopefully give some of them up to make more room in life to move about and do new things).


So... these transits sound rough. (They are.) But they occur under a Solar Return that has two planets angular that mean MAJOR CHANGE AND RENOVATION in your life - breaking things up, going a new direction - plus one benefic planet (Venus). That's better than last year's return!

You have a nice Moon-Venus progression in two months (November) which should ease some of the psychological stress (perhaps giving you that support system you need).
Jim Eshelman
www.jeshelman.com

User avatar
Element
Luminary Member
Luminary Member
Posts: 63
Joined: Sun May 22, 2022 4:07 am
Gender:

Re: Birth Natal Chart Reading 2023

Post by Element » Tue Sep 12, 2023 11:13 am

Hi,i'm sorry i posted a wrong chart.🥴

Well,i'm optimistic you read about a more positive year than the previous one.

About mental health,yeah,i'm on therapy from july and still continue,i will join next week a group therapy which will be the road to healing,cure,treatment of mental health issues,it's the third therapist i try as two previous failed to deliver me serious and quality help.

From mid 2020 it was an emotional hell for me and till now i'm fighting to recover and get some balance in life,from restrictions of covid,from negative gossipers,slandering and betraying to workplace,from issues with a bad boss and bad company.Sandess from then still exist,emotional hurt was a big hit back then,i feel angry cause i was weak to face all this.

My parents weren't supportive,father is strict and cold,mother bossy and overcritical,with conflicts,still remain same as described.

Career improved in some way,not something so good still but at least i get a better program and more money than before,i have some free time for rest i need.However degree exams failed.

Financially,i'm stable and waiting next month to extend my contract with company.

Still struggling with lack of friends and relationships,this turning into anxiety sometimes,i worry about life in general,if will make it to succeed in life.Loneliness really is hard and rough,as it seems to be chronic.

I fear changes,i feel more comfortable to know i am in a known and safe enviroment.

User avatar
Jim Eshelman
Are You Sirius?
Posts: 17675
Joined: Sun May 07, 2017 12:40 pm
Gender:

Re: Birth Natal Chart Reading 2023

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Sep 12, 2023 11:28 am

Element wrote:
Tue Sep 12, 2023 11:13 am
I fear changes,i feel more comfortable to know i am in a known and safe enviroment.
Understood. Change can be scary.

And, yet, you want your life to change. (This is the main thing you write about: You want your life to change.) That's your dilemma, I think: You want a new life, but don't want anything to change.

Life doesn't get better if the circumstances remain the same. Instead, life stays the same.
Jim Eshelman
www.jeshelman.com

User avatar
Element
Luminary Member
Luminary Member
Posts: 63
Joined: Sun May 22, 2022 4:07 am
Gender:

Re: Birth Natal Chart Reading 2023

Post by Element » Wed Sep 20, 2023 2:50 am

I want a better life but i fear to face the challenges and go for major life changes,due to fear of uknown circumstances.

Yeah,i think i have done some small steps forward,at least i have tried even if didn't worked sometimes.I keep the positive reading overall.Group Therapy will help somehow i suppose.

Also have fear will remain single,without soulmate or family,without friends or people that care about me.

User avatar
Jim Eshelman
Are You Sirius?
Posts: 17675
Joined: Sun May 07, 2017 12:40 pm
Gender:

Re: Birth Natal Chart Reading 2023

Post by Jim Eshelman » Wed Sep 20, 2023 11:20 am

I hope you have a happy birthday and a surprisingly good year!
Jim Eshelman
www.jeshelman.com

User avatar
Element
Luminary Member
Luminary Member
Posts: 63
Joined: Sun May 22, 2022 4:07 am
Gender:

Re: Birth Natal Chart Reading 2023

Post by Element » Wed Sep 20, 2023 9:20 pm

Jim Eshelman wrote:
Wed Sep 20, 2023 11:20 am
I hope you have a happy birthday and a surprisingly good year!
:D :D ;)

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests