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Uranus vs Pluto

Post by Raksasa » Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:42 pm

I was raised by (when she was mentally and physically aware) a Aquarian Mother who has a strong deep set Uranus nature. Wild and eccentric in her younger days, much more spiritual and cautious now. I was raised in an unorthodox envrioment and had to take on a Saturn fatherly role. Now I have my own brand of freedom and eccentricity. However I can't grasp Pluto freedom vs Uranian freedom.

Any easy suggestions on how to interpret and differentiate between these two?

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Re: Uranus vs Pluto

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:56 pm

They have similarities, and the distinctions do take some time to understand.

Basically, Uranus is quite about freedom and Pluto isn't. Pluto is about "leave me alone," but that isn't freedom in the Uranian sense. For example, Uranus needs to be out, open, not bounded in, as in the birthing experience. However, it is truly Plutonian to be left alone in solitary confinement as to be left alone outside - a lot of the time, Pluto would like the solitary confinement better. Uranus never would.

I suspect your confusion is in that you are looking for the psychological experience of what you call "freedom." Uranus is interested in that, too, but literally needs physical space to reflect freedom. One could probably say that every planet has its own freedom expression - Mars needs room to flex its muscles, Saturn thinks minding its own business and taking care of its own affairs is freedom, Neptune has what I consider whacko ideas of freedom being whatever their fantasies are, Mercury likes speed and space for curiosity to flourish, Jupiter is free when it is unencumbered in success, etc.
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Re: Uranus vs Pluto

Post by Raksasa » Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:14 pm

So pluto is free through its want of solitude. Interesting. Putting this with my Solar temperament is literally the defintion of counter productive. I guess the combo entails extreme selfishness, so selfish I don't want to deal with people at all thus being free.

This is gona be dumb but Uranus is that gay kid who tells the whole world and wants to be out. Pluto is that closeted kid, not because they are afraid but because they think most people are gross. Saturn only tells people they care about. Mars will force it down your throat lmao.

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Re: Uranus vs Pluto

Post by Raksasa » Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:15 pm

And Jupiter uses the gay card as minority status to climb the social ladder.

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Re: Uranus vs Pluto

Post by Venus_Daily » Tue Jul 10, 2018 8:18 pm

I know that this is late, but you're very confused about Jupiter reveling in the minority since it represents the status quo. I would agree with you about Uranus, it's essentially queer. Possibly turning straight men socially gay when they really love women.

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Re: Uranus vs Pluto

Post by Raksasa » Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:55 am

I see... what would cause a Jupiter disability or disruption in a chart? Out of sheer curiosity Jupiter rules my angular Sun and it seems taking the opposite of its description is accurate for me. [Maybe I'm just not seeing how I fill the status quo].

What is the most unjupiter planet? [On a thematic level]

When I see Uranus I see a rainbow personality, large colorful and they want everyone to see. Pluto is like wearing white socks with an all black suit and black shoes, hidden from the center eye if the world, yet still screaming (just in silence).

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Re: Uranus vs Pluto

Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:12 pm

Most un-Jupiter is Saturn in some respects, Pluto in others.

Affliction = aspect by a malefic.
Disruption = aspect by Uranus or Pluto
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Re: Uranus vs Pluto

Post by Raksasa » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:49 pm

Thank you Jim. I believe it is Pluto that disrupts it in my own personal chart. Explaining my distance/disassocation from my Sun sign, I understand that that doesn't make me less if a Saggitarius Sun, but does give me a perfrence to other energies in my chart. [Mostly to my Pluto<Moon> and Mars sign].

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