Non-zodiacal constelations and potential importance

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Non-zodiacal constelations and potential importance

Post by ScarletDepths » Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:59 pm

I know someone fairly well, who's sidereal Leo moon is actualy in the sky space of sextans. She carries more Aquarian Moon traits [sextans associated with Uranus through Urania, godess of astromny, the heavens/universe. Sextans is newly used and is associated with science and Math, it's less myth biased as such].

The fixed stars, although we can't prove their meanings, may hold potential. I'm hoping over time we will see more observation of such none zodiacal constellations and find if they have any mysteries.

Her Mars in Leo is Conj her Moon on a latudeinal level, and by reading into both Leo and Aquarius Moon I found more accurate insights to her. Her Mars in Leo describes her and the Moon on top of it is lacking in characteristics even including her unaspected Cancer Sun. I note that her Moon is the only angular planet in her chart and it is very expressive in her.

Just some babble, trying to keep an open mind, will note her reaction to the other placements.

Sextans is definetly "fire in nature" like Leo from what I'm seeing so maybe it's nothing.
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Re: Non-zodiacal constelations and potential importance

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:02 pm

"In the sky space of sextants"? Whatever are you talking about? So far, it doesn't resemble astrology.

Oh, wait, you mean the constellation Sextans, right? Took me a minute.

The constellation is a poor example for the principles you say you want to explore. The brightest star is barely 4th magnitude, and it's not part of the ancient cannon of constellations - it's a 17th century invention.

There are extrazodiacal constellations that have a known impact on zodiacal constellations in that their myths interweave and become part of the underlying fabric of the zodiacal constellation. For example, Andromeda roughly overlaps Pisces. Aquila is proximate to Aquarius. It's not that there is an "Andromeda zone" per se, but that the Andromeda themes mingle with the whole pf Pisces. Astrological fields of influence are exact 30° lunes of space 0 this has been established with great certainty - but the "neighborhood" of these lunes help see characterization of the twelve astrologically valid areas. Thu, Pisces have strong bondage elements and Aquarius keeps firing off eagle symbolism, etc. There is a lot of room to explore these from surviving ancient manuscripts and modern exploration.
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Re: Non-zodiacal constelations and potential importance

Post by ScarletDepths » Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:40 pm

It is dull. Sorry for my late night spelling. I mean it is most definetly Conj those sextans stars. Again just some babble sorry for the lack of terms too.

Her angular Moon is Conj Mars and the A.C., it's very strong [even her Sun hints at the Moon]. I would definetly associate her with the Muse Urania, however the Muse is what one would call and angular Moon person too.

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Post by ScarletDepths » Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:44 pm

I don't know about your Venus Jim, but mine is definetly Conj. Libra stars, and my Jupiter to Pisces.

Pluto is in Ophicious but it us easy to connect that to Scorpio as the Scorpion is stinging the guy in the foot.

Saturn is closer to Cetus than Aries stars in my chart too, but again its easy to connect these two [although Saturn is not likely fall in Cetus].

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Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:22 am

ScarletDepths wrote:
Mon Jun 11, 2018 11:44 pm
I don't know about your Venus Jim, but mine is definetly Conj. Libra stars, and my Jupiter to Pisces.

Pluto is in Ophicious but it us easy to connect that to Scorpio as the Scorpion is stinging the guy in the foot.

Saturn is closer to Cetus than Aries stars in my chart too, but again its easy to connect these two [although Saturn is not likely fall in Cetus].
Let's just be clear, so that nobody else wandering through here gets confused: This is barely any kind of astrology, and most definitely is not Sidereal astrology (to which this site is dedicated). I could write for the next half hour breaking apart the number of issues in this brief post, and it just isn't worth it.

And, FWIW, any zodiacal effect on my natal Venus is quite definitely not Libran! :) There may be stars near it that 20th Century astronomers labelled as part of Libra, but tht's not the basis for determining its zodiacal position.
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Re: Non-zodiacal constelations and potential importance

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:17 am

One other thing.. astronomers drew up modern star maps. They didn't follow ancient boundaries. They don't study history or archeology so they don't even know where the ancient boundaries were. They basically lay in the grass and find pictures in the stars, the same way people lie in the grass and find pictures in the clouds on a summer afternoon. Modern star maps have no meaning, astrological or astronomical or any other kind. There is NO scientific basis for the lines between constellations and they can be moved at any time and often are at astronomy conventions.

So trying to drag in all these other constellations is.. not useful to anybody, including yourself. Extra-zodiacal constellations have myths attached to them, but the myths are just a way for a teacher to set the star patterns in people's heads while teaching them navigation so they can find their way home. It's not about the meaning of the myth. It's about put this star pattern on your left and you'll be aimed toward home.

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