SteveS wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 05, 2019 2:37 am
Indeed, do Mars Signs. Post if any material where fathers of Sidereal Astrology did Mars Signs. Explanations WHY? Mars Signs are 3rd in importance behind Sun & Moon Signs.
Though we are still a week and a half from starting this Mars-sign project, I thought I'd take this space to answer Steve' questions above. They seemed good kick-off questions.
1. None of the Sidereal pioneers placed any special focus on Mars' natal constellation or made more than passing occasional mention of it. (As a 'second tier' early Siderealist, Carl Stahl included non-luminary sign interpretations in one of his books IIRC.)
2. The discovery is partly mine and partly Anna-Kria King's. As usual, it arose from empirical evidence, not theory. There were two primary findings.
2A. First, in my breaking down of all the Gauquelin character trait data for Sidereal sign placements of Sun, Moon, eight planets, Midheaven, and Ascendant, I noticed that the Mars placements had scores (measurement of statistical significance) at a level only Sun or Moon matched, and that the symbolism was usually quite pure. This inferred that the Mars sign placements were likely very descriptive of people.
2B. Second, after I mentioned this to Anna-Kria, she added a section to her astrological notebook to catalogue Mars signs of people she knew. From this, she quickly came to the conclusion that people Sun-Mars sign pairs in common (e.g.,
Sun in Virgo & Mars in Sagittarius, like me) has far more in common that people in her Sun-Moon sign-pair lists. These similarities included character, occupation, general demeanor ("their fundamental energy"), and often physical appearance. (I think she probably mentioned this in her book, The Goldmine in Your Files.
3. Observing that this importance of Mars in character description, vocation, and more is true, I naturally turned my thoughts to the why
question Steve raised. I think it's pretty simple: After luminaries, the only planets that would be expected to have individual sign-placement importance would be the fast planets (Mercury, Venus, Mars). Of these, Mercury-signs and Venus-signs are highly dependent on Sun's position, i.e.,
Mercury can only be in the Sun-sign or one sign on either side. Mars is the first planet that, for a given Sun-sign, can be in any other sign. Additionally, Mars' nature is assertive, action-driven - it's an egoic planet in a similar way to how Sun is an egoic planet. (Tropical astrologers who equate Mars, Aries, and the 1st house as three versions of one principle routinely treat Mars as "just another Ascendant" and, while I think their theory is wrong, I don't think their observations of its importance are wrong.)