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Nikolas Cruz

Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:59 am

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The shooter is in custody (i.e., not dead). He is a 19-year-old former student of the school, who was expelled for disciplinary purposes. I'd bet money he has a Rim Moon, and most likely Double Rim.
He was adopted, so the chance of a birth certificate is probably slim. He was born in August 1998 - perhaps a day will emerge in the press? As a bit of fun, I'm going to theorize he was born August 13.
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Re: Nikolas Cruz

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:03 pm

Quick action with the pause button got me an image of the arrest warrant. Cruz, Nikolas Jacob, DOB 9/24/1998, Margate, Florida. Permanent address: 8422 Lake Trail, Parkland, FL Arrested 02/14/2018 21:29:00 1400 Windham Lakes Dr.

So, that's a Virgo Sun, likely a Libra Moon, Venus opp Jupiter, with Mars inconjunct Jupiter, semisextile Venus, all partile.

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Re: Nikolas Cruz

Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:57 pm

Thanks. The Miami Herald report of August was wrong. I'll take a look when I get home.

LATER: Libra Moon for sure, since it's at 20° at noon. Yes, Venus-Jupiter opposition partile, and Sun-Mercury conjunction trine Neptune.

The main transit for the shooting is Jupiter exactly square his Mars. This isn't coming from weakness but, rather, from great strength. It was a victory for him - a win.

His prior SLR was a week earlier. Partile transits in the SLR (using noon as a sample birth time) are few:

t Pluto -45- r Pluto 58'
t Jupiter -90- r Mars 29'

If I had to guess from the SLR, based on the available severe aspects, what I'd expect to see on the angles is transiting Mars conjunct his Pluto, which is almost partile; and it could be on one angle concurrent with Neptune, I think. These possibilities suggest a Moon (in Libra) of approximately:

15°54' (Mars on IC, Neptune near Dsc)
19°23' (Mars rising, Neptune closely on IC)
22°07' (Mars on MC, Venus rising)
24°49' (Mars setting, Venus near MC)

Going on the basis of this (which, remember, is a good guess at best), the Mars rising (conjunct natal Pluto) SLR with Neptune closely on IC is the most exciting, and gives a possible birth time of about 11:00 AM - born with Mars at Midheaven (or, closer, Mars square Ascendant).

AN 11:00 AM birth time gives a progressed Moon-Uranus opposition (0°02') rotated near the SNQ meridian for the shooting, as transiting Jupiter (the one that squares his natal Mars within 12') is on Dsc (his Mars sq. Asc). If this is the right birth time, he had the time of his life! It puts transiting Sun and Jupiter on his natal angles for the event (more of the exultant victory and, generally, being in the spotlight).

LATER: Just noticed that the SSR Moon for this 11 AM possible time is heavily involved: square natal Mars. Here's the pile-up I've seen so far, all within 1°:

26°30' Lib r Asc
26°52' Lib s Moon
27°20' Can r Mars
27°28' Lib t Jupiter

Today's Solar Eclipse was 2°08' Aquarius. At the time of the shooting, we have (for this possible, round-hour birth time):

1°01' Aqu t Sun
1°04' Leo r MC
1°38' Sco SQ Moon

Other things to test:
His adoptive father, Roger Paul Cruz, was born June 14, 1937 in NYC and died on August 11, 2004 in Pompano Beach, Fl.
His adoptive mother, Lynda Marie Kumbatovich Cruz, was born Sept 25, 1949 in NYC and died on Nov 1, 2017 in Parkland, Fl.
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Re: Nikolas Cruz

Post by Venus_Daily » Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:33 am

I'm wondering about the veracity of his natal chart, although the transits may fit, the natal signatures do not. From what I read, this guy was diagnosed with autism at an early age, and he has a long line of suspensions for anti-social behavior. Neighbors called the police on him weekly for trying to murder their young animals, and he has a long history of threats and antisocial propaganda on social media. The Sun/Mercury/Neptune complex does fit for cognitive and personal disturbance, but the Libra moon and Jupiter/Venus aspect seem odd. This kid had no charisma, and he wasn't well-liked similar to Ted Bundy (Venus/Jupiter/Mercury on IC)
May I ask, what is it about Mercury and murderers of any sort? A lot have prominent Mercuries either in aspect or foreground.

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Re: Nikolas Cruz

Post by Jim Eshelman » Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:56 am

Not all Libra Moons are well-liked. There is a side of "Air signs" that are especially withdrawn and remote. Most important, though, I was certain, from the first days descriptions of his history, that he had a Rim Moon. These are people who get into the most trouble, the highest number of incarcerated murderers, the highest concentration of trouble-makers needing to act out, etc.

Yes, I've seen Mercury (especially Mercury-Mars transits more than natal) as a factor in murderers. In this case, it is more fitting because he was a tactician. In mundane astrology, Mercury is nearly absent for mass murders, even though it is quite pronounced for war; and the mass murders for which it is most present are those that have "preparing for war" conditions, e.g., tactical training and military-style deployment. He was really into that (in fact, he'd been in J-ROTC, and belonged to a paramilitary white imperialism group committed to turning Florida all white).

This is not your typical school shooting, I think. It's closer to the Vegas shooting or First AME (where the killer was openly, firmly committed to starting a new Civil War, so that blacks, no longer willing to be slaves, could be eradicated and the South could be independent).

I haven't heard the autism diagnosis, and tend to doubt it. This kid seems bright, trained, focused, and fundamentally emotionally damaged in a way that enhances alienation and keeps him disconnected from people.

As for his Sun-Mercury-Neptune: Both Sun-Neptune and Mercury-Neptune aspects are common (to a statistically significant level) in the Bradley study of murderers.
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Re: Nikolas Cruz

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:09 am

I heard the autism "diagnosis" thing, and it was name-calling/labeling that was picked up by news media through talking to his classmates. It's "not nice" to call people 'crazy' and kids aren't allowed to call people 'assholes' in school so they call them 'autistic'. Doesn't mean he is actually autistic or anything close.

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Re: Nikolas Cruz

Post by Venus_Daily » Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:42 pm

This did not come from children but a close neighbor who dated Cruz' current guardian, in fact, this guy made tons of excuses for Cruz. Not saying all people with autism are violent, but there is a strong antisocial element that can develop over time as a consequence of this order. This kid is not dumb, but a lot of people with high functioning autism are not. Adam Lanza and Dylan roof we're both officially diagnose the disease as well long before they murdered anyone. In fact, Roof's defense team wanted to use his diagnosis as a defence.

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Nikolas Cruz

Post by Venus_Daily » Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:00 pm

In reference to Nikolas Cruz..
There were a few photos floating around of him even before the news outlets confirmed his diagnosis, and I had a strong feeling he was on the spectrum. Here is a video from ABC, repeating what he was diagnosed with based on the reports from CPS/Child welfare.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBw3z-N40o8
If you would like to put this under horoscopes of interests, that's fine, but I want to know if based on his chart will he be executed for these atrocious murders?

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Re: Nikolas Cruz

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:54 pm

Venus_Daily wrote:
Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:00 pm
In reference to Nikolas Cruz..
I want to know if based on his chart will he be executed for these atrocious murders?
Do you have his time of birth?

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Re: Nikolas Cruz

Post by Venus_Daily » Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:08 am

Apologies, I thought we had rectified his chart.

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Re: Nikolas Cruz

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:55 am

Venus_Daily wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:08 am
Apologies, I thought we had rectified his chart.
I proposed a speclative time. It's just a speculation, though.
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