Marion's 2022 Solar Return

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Marion's 2022 Solar Return

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:22 pm

Marion's next SSR has a close Mercury-Saturn square that's closely angular in LA (Saturn is partile). Months ago we looked for alternatives and it only took a few seconds to pick Chicago.

The chart is really awesome with a Moon-Sun conjunction within 0°16' that, in Chicago, is exactly square MC. While this gives the longitude, the latitude is provided by a Mars-Jupiter conjunction square Asc through approximately Chicago. (Jupiter is closer for Gary and parts of Chicago; Mars is 2° away, still in orb, but exact through Milwaukee, otherwise we might have revisited Milwaukee.) Here's how easy it was to detect on the map:
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Jupiter's exact angularity is in Waukegan, IL just north of Chicago (right below the Wisconsin border). We're looking at hotelling in Waukegan to be there at 7 AM when the return occurs. Here's the TMSA breakdown of the SSR for Waukegan.

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Pl Longitude   Lat   Speed    RA    Decl    Azi     Alt     PVL    Ang G
                           Transiting Planets                           
Ju 08Pi26'55" 01S10 + 0°10'   3°40' 00N19 147°29' +43°07' 299°52' 100% F
Mo 14Ta15'50" 01N31 +11°57'  67°23' 23N21  74°15' +17°45' 341°36' 100% F
Ma 09Pi03'54" 01S45 + 0°45'   4°28' 00N02 146°39' +42°31' 300°56'  99% F
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                            Radical Planets                             
Su 14Ta01'27" 00N00 + 0°58'  67°22' 21N49  75°30' +16°46' 342°43' 100% F
Mo 15Le59'02" 03N53 +12°20' 164°00' 11N01 355°48' -36°31'  95°39'  92% F
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    Class 1 Aspects   
tMa co tJu 00°37' 99% 
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tMo co rSu 00°14'100% 
tMo sq rPl 01°04' 98% 
tMo sq rMo 01°43' 94% 
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rMo sq rSu 01°58' 93%
The angularities are:

t Jupiter on Zenith 0°01'
r Sun on EP 0°06'
t Moon on EP 0°21'
t Mars on Zenith 0°38'
r Moon on IC 5°39'
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Re: Marion's 2022 Solar Return

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:30 pm

SSR Moon is 0°15' past Sun so will not progress to the exact conjunction. Nonetheless, she has the partile conjunction for the year.

But Sun does progress to Moon! (We don't usually see maturing aspects in the course of the year often.) Moon then progresses to natal Moon and Pluto. Here are the progressions of the SSR for the year:

Jul 1 - SQ Moon sq. r Pluto
Jul 21 - SQ Moon sq. r Moon
Aug 30 - SQ Sun co. s Moon
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Re: Marion's 2022 Solar Return

Post by Danica » Wed Jan 12, 2022 1:00 am

Given that t Mars can not be avoided with t Jupiter, I think that's a really good find.

For catching the t Venus line (and adventure! :) ), have you looked at Alaska?
I checked briefly Yakutat, and the Anchorage - that array in Anchorage really looks magnificent, it's a "let's have everything except Pluto and Sedna" :D , with focus on t Venus, and with her r Ju, Mo, Ve, Ne coming sharpest to the fore.

P.S. also, I see now (from brief SF preview only): Mendocino, CA has t Ve sq MC 03', followed by t Ur, Er, Me within 6*
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Re: Marion's 2022 Solar Return

Post by SteveS » Wed Jan 12, 2022 2:36 am

Awesome relocation Jim.

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Re: Marion's 2022 Solar Return

Post by Jim Eshelman » Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:20 am

Danica wrote:
Wed Jan 12, 2022 1:00 am
I see now (from brief SF preview only): Mendocino, CA has t Ve sq MC 03', followed by t Ur, Er, Me within 6*
But the chart for Chicago is simply too good to pass up! It make or a real powerhouse of a person.

Mendocino is a really troublesome chart. Despite that exactly angular Venus, it highlights the foreground Mercury-Saturn square we wanted to avoid (doubled up with the natal Mercury-Saturn square even more closely angular), brings natal Saturn tied with Venus for the most angular, and, bringing Pluto into the foreground, turns that angular Venus into a foreground Venus-Pluto square. It puts her Saturn-Saturn conjunction angular. That's a lot for even a 0' angular Venus to overcome.

Here is the TMSA breakdown for Mendocino. The aspects are probably the best way to put the different parts in perspective. The whole chart becomes isolating, alienating, and prone to distance, emotional hardship, and separation. (And the four Mercury-Saturn aspects wouldn't likely help either connection or her business interests.)

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Pl Longitude   Lat   Speed    RA    Decl    Azi     Alt     PVL    Ang G
                           Transiting Planets                           
Ve 07Ar09'37" 02S00 + 1°10'  30°44' 10N22  84°36' + 9°49' 350°08'  99% F
Ur 21Ar10'22" 00S21 + 0°03'  43°52' 16N21  71°49' + 3°40' 356°09'  96% F
Me 01Ta33'50" 03S19 - 0°16'  55°07' 16N10  64°47' - 4°32'   5°01'  93% F
Sa 00Aq10'46" 01S07 + 0°01' 327°53' 14S09 153°28' +32°25' 305°07'  90% F
Pl 03Cp20'04" 02S02 - 0°01' 300°56' 22S29 184°15' +28°05' 262°06'  84% F
Mo 14Ta15'50" 01N31 +11°57'  67°23' 23N21  51°26' - 7°26'   9°28'  77% F
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                            Radical Planets                             
Sa 28Cp52'23" 01S03 + 0°00' 326°36' 14S32 155°01' +32°30' 303°33'  99% F
Me 27Ar30'46" 03S35 - 0°02'  51°06' 14N56  68°18' - 2°31'   2°43'  98% F
Ne 19Li25'23" 01N50 - 0°01' 222°34' 14S26 254°05' - 3°24' 176°28'  97% F
Ve 19Ar28'04" 01S31 + 1°13'  42°31' 14N45  73°53' + 3°38' 356°13'  96% F
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tMe sq tSa 01°23' 96%
tVe sq tPl 01°58' 93% M
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tMo co rSu 00°14'100%                                                   
tMo sq rMo 01°43' 94%                                                   
tMo sq rPl 01°04' 98%                                                   
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tUr co rVe 00°04'100% M                                                 
tUr op rNe 00°20'100% M                                                 
tSa co rSa 01°18' 97%                                                   
tMe co rMe 02°18' 90% M                                                 
tMe sq rSa 02°41' 86%                                                   
tSa sq rMe 02°40' 86%                                                   
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rVe op rNe 00°03'100%
rMe sq rSa 01°22' 96% 
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Re: Marion's 2022 Solar Return

Post by Danica » Wed Jan 12, 2022 8:31 am

Mmm, I see. ( I didn't look at Mendocino in details, only noticed what quick SF preview shows, so mentioned it.)
Yes, the full list of angularity together with aspects does put things in perspective, and I agree it wouldn't be the best option (at least not in the sense of: undiluted-pleasant, or easy-going).
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Re: Marion's 2022 Solar Return

Post by Jim Eshelman » Wed Jan 12, 2022 8:35 am

I don't think you can call a person easy-going with a horos ooe dominated by a parilte New Moon and close Mars-Jupiter conjunction.
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