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A bloody divorce

Post by Danica » Tue May 09, 2017 11:15 am

Nov 13, 2014
SteveS wrote:This afternoon I received a call from a Father telling me his son was involved in a very bloody divorce which could separate him from his four children and put a tremendous strain on supporting his children. I was asked a question as an astrologer: When would this crises peak? I have not had time to go through all the charts but noted his current SSR has Saturn partile 90 his SSR Asc partile cnj zenith. Also note his sp SSR Moon will partile 180 his SSR Saturn Feb-Mar 2015. At this same time t. Saturn will partile cnj Station his Natal IC, SSR MC and Natal Neptune. Natal Neptune partile cnj SSR MC. Next week I will have lunch with the father and will tell him Mar-Feb 2015 will probably be the worst time frame for his son, peaking the crises. I suspect this will be when the lawyers/court decide the case. Will post details as I receive them.

Birth time of son: Sept 12th 1973, 5:25 AM, CDT, Birmingham Alabama. Present residence: Springhill, TN (35N45, 086W56).
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Re: A bloody divorce

Post by Danica » Tue May 09, 2017 11:16 am

Dec 12, 2014
Freya wrote:There you go, moon-saturn again!!!!!!
SteveS wrote: Yes, Saturn the ‘greater’ malefic in astrology aspected with any of our lights symbolizes rough time periods.
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Re: A bloody divorce

Post by Danica » Tue May 09, 2017 11:17 am

Dec 12, 2014
Jim Eshelman wrote:FWIW, I'm now in orb of SQ Moon opposite SSR Saturn. It's a basically good SSR, basically destabilizing and change-stirring transits, and this significant progression.

However, I plan to still be around when it's over to update you ;)

PS - I just stopped and calculated the PSSR date. PSSR Moon op. PSSR Saturn is when transiting Sun hits RA 261.1° and right now Sun's RA is 259.7°, so apparently that aspect is happening over the weekend.
SteveS wrote:Jim wrote:
FWIW, I'm now in orb of SQ Moon opposite SSR Saturn. It's a basically good SSR, basically destabilizing and change-stirring transits, and this significant progression
.

Yes, all of our Solar Moon progressions should be considered in the context of our main angular themes with our SSR’s.
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Re: A bloody divorce

Post by Danica » Tue May 09, 2017 11:17 am

Dec 13, 2014
Jim Eshelman wrote:
Jim Eshelman wrote:FWIW, I'm now in orb of SQ Moon opposite SSR Saturn. It's a basically good SSR, basically destabilizing and change-stirring transits, and this significant progression.

However, I plan to still be around when it's over to update you ;)

PS - I just stopped and calculated the PSSR date. PSSR Moon op. PSSR Saturn is when transiting Sun hits RA 261.1° and right now Sun's RA is 259.7°, so apparently that aspect is happening over the weekend.
And it was the PSSR aspect that hit very hard. Yesterday around 4:45 PM was one of the worst quarter hours of my life. - To assuage worry, let me hasten to say that I'm physically fine, Marion & I are great, work is solid. I still can't go into details because a public figure is involved (privacy issues) and there are contentions going on that public discussion right now could inflame rather than calm, so the details have to wait until a later time.

And the tough aspects are building, rather than relaxing, over the next couple of weeks. Some of these include a very Mars-inflamed lunar at the end of the month, t. Saturn square my local Ascendant on the 24th (but Jupiter conjunct local EP on New Years Eve), and the SQ Moon-Saturn opposition New Years Eve. Oh, and the next two weeks is when Solar Arc Neptune exactly hits my natal IC. For those that want to look at the above time, I suggest you check out the following. (My residence is best calculated as Oakwood, CA in LA County, that's the block I was on. When the event occurred, I was in Century City.)

-- transits to my SSR (especially Pluto and Uranus)
-- current SLR and this weekend's Demi (be sure to look at the demi in mundo)
-- PSSR
-- SQ (don't miss the transits to the angles on this one!!!)

You might also find it interesting to look at my secondary progressions with angles calculated as SA in longitude, rather than Naibod in RA. Don't miss the progressed Moon's 135 aspect to r. Neptune.

At the time of the event, the Saturn and Neptune of the other person involved were on the immediate (current, transiting) angles within 1°.
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Re: A bloody divorce

Post by Danica » Tue May 09, 2017 11:18 am

Dec 13, 2014
SteveS wrote:Jim wrote:
And it was the PSSR aspect that hit very hard. Yesterday around 4:45 PM was one of the worst quarter hours of my life.
Thanks for letting us know Jim.

Jim wrote:
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still can't go into details because a public figure is involved (privacy issues) and there are contentions going on that public discussion right now could inflame rather than calm, so the details have to wait until a later time.
I understand Jim.

Jim wrote:
And the tough aspects are building, rather than relaxing, over the next couple of weeks. Some of these include a very Mars-inflamed lunar at the end of the month, t. Saturn square my local Ascendant on the 24, and the SQ Moon-Saturn opposition New Years Eve.
Yes, I saw this coming a couple of months ago and knew you would encounter a rough Dec. Do you think these ‘tough aspects’ will be part of the cycle that ‘hit very hard’ yesterday?
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Re: A bloody divorce

Post by Danica » Tue May 09, 2017 11:18 am

Dec 13, 2014
SteveS wrote:Jim wrote:
1:-- transits to my SSR (especially Pluto and Uranus)
2:-- current SLR and this weekend's Demi (be sure to look at the demi in mundo)
3:-- PSSR
4:-- SQ (don't miss the transits to the angles on this one!!!)
1: t. Uranus partile cnj SSR IC, t. Pluto partile 90 SSR MC, t. Me cnj SSR Asc
2: Demi: Mundane square Saturn-Neptune, partile Moon-Sun 90, partile Moon 135 Mars
3: Can’t compute PSSR (my other computer with software is down)
4: Bad Moon setting partile 180 SQ Neptune and t. Neptune, SQ Moon partile 180 SQ Saturn. (Nasty SQ)
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Re: A bloody divorce

Post by Danica » Tue May 09, 2017 11:19 am

Dec 13, 2014
Jim Eshelman wrote:
SteveS wrote:3: Can’t compute PSSR (my other computer with software is down)
Too bad you don't use Excel :) My PSSR spreadsheet makes it easy to do a single chart.

Set up a chart for October 10, 2014, 17:43:01 PDT, Los Angeles, CA. That's the PSSR.
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Re: A bloody divorce

Post by Danica » Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:43 am

Jim, I came across this note from December 2014 (while looking for something else on the forum):
Dec 13, 2014

J.A.E. wrote:
Yesterday around 4:45 PM was one of the worst quarter hours of my life. - To assuage worry, let me hasten to say that I'm physically fine, Marion & I are great, work is solid. I still can't go into details because a public figure is involved (privacy issues) and there are contentions going on that public discussion right now could inflame rather than calm, so the details have to wait until a later time.

Since this was the period that you moved from the previous residence of 37-years to the new living space, I took a look at the annual chart:

SL 3/12/2014 (Oakwood orbs)


t Mercury WPa 1*03'
t Sedna MC 2*34'
t Neptune DC 3*48'
t Saturn IC 4*25'

r Venus IC 2*57'
r Pluto AC 7*22'

SL Moon's aspects:
opp SL Venus 4*43' s
sq r Saturn 1*05' s
sq r Mercury 1*20' a


It's interesting that the LS pertinent to the event you mentioned above has the same picture of angular planets combination as the annual chart, and this with t Sun & Chiron also added to the mix, while of the rx planets, r Pluto came to be sharply focalized:


LS 12/1/2014

t Mercury ND 05'
t Neptune WP 38'
t Sun IC 5*48'
t Saturn IC 6*26'
t Chiron DC 7*22'
t Sedna MC 8*14'

r Pluto EPa 38'
r Venus IC 8*24'


And at the said day-and-hour -- 12/12/2014, 16:45h -- t Saturn was 18' s conjunct the SL IC.


Since this was almost eight years ago, I hope, for our learning purposes, you can share a bit more now about the details of this event/experience.
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Re: A bloody divorce

Post by Jim Eshelman » Wed Sep 21, 2022 8:02 am

Danica wrote:
Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:43 am
Since this was almost eight years ago, I hope, for our learning purposes, you can share a bit more now about the details of this event/experience.
I don't have any clear details of what the exact event was. I had to think hard to remember even the context, but I actually don't remember what the event was. Diary is no help for that exact event (probably because so much was happening there was no time to get to it). In addition to the specific event mentioned at the top, it was a broadly terrible time - then, three days later, Marion and I confirmed the new home we were moving to and were pretty excited about it.

I remember it was a time of progressed angles to Saturn and Pluto simultaneously and IIIRC solar arc Neptune to IC. Looking back I see that the SLR had natal Saturn partile to Eastpoint; then, the December 14 Demi-SLR turned the tide with transiting Jupiter on Zenith and natal Pluto culminating, definitely fitting finding the new place.
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