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My SLR

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:58 am

The last thread on my SLRs started with a "fairly boring" one. The new one in a couple of days (Juyly 31, 2018, 1:01:55 PM PDT, 34N03'46", 118W18'47") is anything but boring. Here's the breakdown:

t Sun on MC +0°34'
t Jupiter on EP -0°17' [sq. non-ang Mercury 3°29' in mundo]
r Saturn sq. MC -0°49'
-- t Sun-Jupiter sq. 0°52' (in RA)
-- t Sun sq. r Saturn 1°13'
-- t Jupiter conj. r Saturn 4°04'
t Uranus on Dsc +2°23'
t Mars sq. Asc +1°53'
-- t Mars-Uranus sq. 0°21'
-- t Sun-Uranus sq. 1°49' (in mundo)
-- t Sun-Mars op. 3°43' (in mundo)
r Mercury on Asc -8°30'
-- t Jupiter conj. r Mercury 0°20' in mundo
-- r Mercury-Saturn conj. 2°04'
r Neptune on Asc +8°56'
-- t Mars sq. r Neptune 4°39' in mundo
-- r Me/Ne on Asc 0°13'

t Moon-Venus op. 1°14'


To state this all more simply, to try to clear the visual "noise" --

t Sun on MC +0°34'
t Jupiter on EP -0°17' [sq. non-ang Mercury 3°29']
r Saturn sq. MC -0°49'
-- t Sun-Jupiter sq. 0°52'
-- t Sun sq. r Saturn 1°13'
-- t Jupiter conj. r Saturn 4°04'
t Uranus on Dsc +2°23'
t Mars sq. Asc +1°53'
-- t Mars-Uranus sq. 0°21'
-- t Sun-Uranus sq. 1°49'
-- t Sun-Mars op. 3°43'
r Mercury on Asc -8°30'
-- t Jupiter conj. r Mercury 0°20'
-- r Mercury-Saturn conj. 2°04'

t Moon-Venus op. 1°14'
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Re: My SLR

Post by Mike » Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:15 am

I always have trouble wrapping my head around SLRs with a lot of factors like this and am wondering how (or if) you further organize it in your head.

My inclination is something like:

Primary cluster: t. Sun / t. Jupiter / r. Saturn, centered around t. Sun
Secondary cluster: t. Uranus / t. Mars, with mostly t. Uranus linked into t. Sun
Lastly, r. Mercury / r. Saturn / t. Jupiter

Primarily a good month, if busy, with positive attention directed towards you and the stuff you're working on, and benefit therefrom. Notable, unexpected events or interactions with people as part of that, maybe conflict, but at least something involving hard work with others involved. You've mentioned before that your average days are Mercury days anyway, but t. Jupiter conjunct widely the foreground r. Mercury suggests that things are going well in general.

Would you interpret it in a similar way? Am I oversimplifying?

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Re: My SLR

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:36 am

The last month is mostly a blur. I think the simple breakdown sums it up best: Benefic transits, malefic natals: Objectively it's been an unusually good month, but I haven't subjectively felt that to be the case through mot of it.

I've certainly been plying my Mercury-Saturn a great deal. There was also the immediate effect, within a day of the SLR, of Solunars.com being down (seriously broken) for about a day until I rebuilt it with almost no lost content. That one (immediate) event does summarize most of the SLR.
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August 27 SLR

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Aug 27, 2018 7:47 am

My new SLR occurs today at 6:48 PM PDT. Here is the breakdown (much simpler than last month):

t Sun on WP 1°32'
t Mercury on Dsc 4°19'
-- Mercury sq. cadent Jupiter 0°09'

t Mars SD op. r Jupiter 0°00', op. r Uranus 0°17'
(Mars is in the immediate background)

This will be the month in which the Foundations of Sidereal Astrology series concludes. I take this chart as an optimistic sign that it will conclude successfully.

EXPERIMENTAL INQUIRY: I usually pay no attention to trines and sextiles in Lunar Returns. However, Sun's trines to Saturn (2°07') and Uranus (2°20), which are themselves trine 0°18', is a different scenario. It isn't a midpoint structure in this case - Saturn and Uranus are precise, with Sun 2° off to the side - but Grand Trines have a tendency to act "hard" (though I suspect that is primarily from exact midpoint structures, which don't exist here). It will be interesting to see if anything decisive manifests that looks like a 7th house Sun simultaneously aspecting Saturn and Uranus.
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Sep 24 SLR

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:30 am

I've been horrendously aggravated and temperamental for a couple of days, no transits suggest that (except for general tension indicators), but my SLR - which I hadn't posted here. I thought I should come back and add the details, especially since one of them is quite relevant: The only two tightly angular planets are my natal Mars and Neptune.

r Mars on Dsc +2°11'
r Uranus on Asc -3°28'
r Jupiter on Asc -3°55'
-- r Jupiter-Uranus conj. 0°17'
r Neptune sq. Asc -1°41'
-- r Uranus-Neptune sq. 2°00'
-- r Jupiter-Neptune sq. 2°17'
-- r Mars-Neptune sq. 2°25'
r Sun on IC -5°16'
-- r Sun-Jupiter sq. 1°21' in mundo
-- r Sun-Uranus sq. 1°48' in mundo
t Pluto on Dsc +5°41'
-- t Pluto sq. r Sun 1°19'
-- t Pluto conj. r Mars 3°30' in mundo
t Mars on Dsc -7°10' [sq. NA Uranus 1°50' sq. NA Venus 4°58']
-- Ma/Pl on Dsc 0°45'
-- t Mars sq. r Sun 1°54' in mundo
-- t Mars op. r Uranus 3°15' in mundo
-- t Mars op. r. Jupiter 3°50' in mundo
t Mercury on IC +8°42' [sq. NA Saturn 1°09', conj. NA Sun 2°42']
-- Mercury-Pluto sq. 3°00' in mundo

Moon-Saturn sq. 1°57' in mundo

That's a lot of stuff - but the essence is probably in the two immediate foreground planets. Otherwise (ignoring minutia of orbs and which kind of aspect it is), it breaks down to:

NATAL FOREGROUND: Mars Neptune (Sun Jupiter Uranus)'
TRANSIT FOREGROUND: (Mars Pluto)

NATAL ASPECTS FOREGROUND:
Mars-Neptune
Jupiter-Uranus-Neptune
Sun-Jupiter-Uranus

TRANSITING ASPECTS FOREGROUND:
Mercury-Pluto

TRANSIT-TO-NATAL ASPECTS FOREGROUND:
t Pluto - r Sun
t Pluto - r Mars
t Mars - r Sun
t Mars - r Uranus
t Mars - r. Jupiter

MISC:
t Moon-Saturn sq.
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Re: My SLR

Post by Jim Eshelman » Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:25 pm

LOL, I am assuming that one person's chart is incapable of causing an entire train to derail :)

My Demi-SLR will occur in the course of travel, probably near Winslow, AZ. It occurs October 7 at 5:29 AM MST. Provided the train isn't delayed (which, of course, could happen with enough Saturn), we'll pass through Winslow at 5:15 AM with the next stop being Gallup, NM (just across the border) at 8:01 AM.

For Winslow, Saturn at 8°19' Sagittarius is on IC 7°33' Sagittarius, getting closer (over the next 60 miles, at least) as one goes east. So, yes, this will surely set up with Saturn on IC.

The thing is, the September 24 SLR relocated to Winslow has Mars 6°32' Capricorn square Uranus 6°42' Aries with Asc 6°24' Cancer. So I'll be approximately at an intersection of Saturn angular on one chart and Mars-Uranus on angular on the other.

In realistic terms that sounds more like "Damn, I lost my contact lens again, I'll have to replace it when we get back," than "OMG the train is rolling over." I'd rather have neither, but I'll pick the former over the latter.

The thing is, the current Caplunar for Winslow has MC 7°36' Gemini - with Saturn exactly on IC! The October 3 Canlunar ha MC 7°32' Gemini - with Saturn exactly on IC! The CanQ has Mars on IC (we'll be "driving under the Mars line").

Perhaps there will be Indians and train robbers on horses. (Saturn is in Sagittarius. Oh, and Mars is in Capricorn so there will be goats or old people.) :)
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Re: My SLR

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:58 pm

Just watch out for those flat-bed Fords.

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Re: My SLR

Post by Jim Eshelman » Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:00 pm

Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote:
Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:58 pm
Just watch out for those flat-bed Fords.
Yes. There are two songs queued up for the trip. One is, "When I'm 64." The other has something to do with a bunch of bald-headed birds. I'll be sure to take it easy.
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Re: My SLR

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Oct 07, 2018 6:03 am

The train is running about 20 minutes late so we weren't quite at Winslow when my Demi-SLR set up about a quarter of an hour ago. I was watching a GPS app in the train's lounge car as the time ticked over to 5:29 AM and we were at 35n12 111w23. Saturn is still the only thing angular, close at 1 25' off IC, but it isn't as precise as I thought it was going to be.

Anyway, we're still moving east at a good clip. I'll cross the actual Saturn line in the Demi and then Saturn square Ascendant before leaving Arizona in a couple of hours. The Sun rising line is about 24 hours from now, not long before we cross from Kansas into Missouri (hi, JSAD!) about half-way between Junction City and Topeka, and Sun square MC in mid-Kansas, in the middle of the night. I'll cross Pluto on IC half-way across Missouri (roughly due south of Des Moines). Pluto square Ascendant is diagonal across Illinois, through much of Monday as we hit Chicago about 2 PM.

This could be utterly uneventful, or interesting to watch the Demi-SLR unfold differently over different parts of the next day and a half.
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SLR 11/17/18

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sat Nov 17, 2018 12:17 am

My new SLR in about 17 hours looks like this:

Jupiter on Dsc +0°45'
-- Jupiter-Uranus sq. 0°47' PVP
Sun on Dsc +5°52'
Mercury (stationary) on Dsc -6°03' [sq. non-angular Neptune 0°18']
-- Su/Me on Dsc 0°06'
t Mars sq. Asc 2°34'
-- Mars-Jupiter sq. 0°48'
r Venus on Dsc +9°09'

t Uranus sq. r Jupiter 0°58' (background)
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Re: My SLR

Post by Mike » Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:21 am

Looks quite positive overall.
Got any classes or similar things planned during this period?

Also, do you think that Mars square to Asc is close enough to count? I've always drawn the line at 2°, which I thought was the recommended cutoff for ecliptical squares to Asc/MC. Is it notable besides the close square to Jupiter?

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Re: My SLR

Post by Jim Eshelman » Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:15 am

No classes etc. planned. I'll go 3 for square to Ascendant though 2 is the "class 1" tyoe dropoff. (Squares to MC are narrower, never oast 2, prefer 1. EP/WP same as Zenith/Nadir.)

Yes, guven that are other, stronger angularities, the maij import is likely that it majes Mars-Jupiter a partile foreground square. Money is burning up way too fast this month!
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Demi-SLR 11/30/18

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Dec 02, 2018 3:33 pm

I think I need to formally break-out my new Demi-SLR to get everything in right proportion. It looks nasty and that's appropriate: I'm having eye surgery next Thursday that should be somewhat more uncomfortable than "irritating," and will leave one eye (my better one) mostly unusable for one to three weeks.

The Demi-SLR occurred November 30, 2018, 5:35:33 PM PST. I've calculated it for my home in LA, even though I was sitting having a fast dinner in West Los Angeles (en route to an event Friday night) and the surgery will be in Beverly Hills - it's all close enough.

r Moon sq. Asc +0°34'
t Sun on WP -1°38' [sq. Neptune 4°55']
t Jupiter on WP +2°15' [conj. Mercury 2°18' in mundo]
-- Su/Ju on WP 0°19'
-- Sun-Jupiter conj. 2°17' in mundo
r Pluto on IC +4°08'
t Mars on MC -8°12' [conj. Neptune 4°11']
-- Sun-Mars sq. 0°43'
-- Mars-Jupiter sq. 4°30'
Moon-Pluto sq. 3°02' in mundo

Mundanely, Ju=Su/Me 0°01' for which Ebertin specifically gives "medical doctor" (in the Supplement to KdG) and paints a basically protective picture.

t Venus-Uranus op. 0°01' (background)
t Mercury sq. L Asc 0°11'
t Uranus sq. r Jupiter 0°33', r Uranus 0°49'
-- t Venus sq. r Jupiter 0°32', r Uranus 0°49'

General assessment: Though there are negative elements, the whole is positive on balance. I think these are the main points:
  • Moon sq. Asc closest means I am acutely vulnerable to and responsive to all the astrological and environmental factors this fortnight, feeling them all more strongly. Moon's mundane square to Pluto suggests there will be distinct out-of-the-ordinary impact.
  • The Sun-Jupiter conjunction on an angle is quite positive. Other than the neutral Moon factors just mentioned, this is the strongest pattern and is fundamentally positive. (Adding Mercury in the particular way it hits the mix means I'm lucky to have the particular medical specialist I have, and the procedure will be successful and ultimately positive.)
  • It's expensive. I definitely have a price to pay. (Expenses will be up to $500 for my copayment and probably almost that amount out of pocket to replace one of my hard contact lenses with a new prescription after the surgery and healing.)
  • Yes, there will be irritation-discomfort-pain. This is a lesser effect or indication than the above.
  • Lots of small details, e.g., besides the cost I expect middleground Neptune square foreground Sun to be some disorientation for a week or more and perhaps some (maybe over-dramatized) sense of invalidism or dependency. I hope Neptune's aspect to Mars doesn't mean infection (and, with Sun-Jupiter, I don't think it will).
  • The Uranus transits suggest this making a positive difference in my life, especially from advanced technology (which this is: a procedure that only has two books written about it in the medical world, and my doctor wrote one of them).
  • Of course, there could be other events or outcomes in this two weeks unrelated to the surgery, and they will have these characteristics.
Surgery BTW is December 6, 2PM, Beverly Hills, though obviously that is for initial examination, probably some prep, with the procedure sometime (guessing) an hour later. At 2 PM Uranus is rising with a Venus-Uranus-Pluto mundane T-square on the angles. I'm not crazy about the 0°26' Mars-Neptune conjunction closely square Sun, with a New Moon forming a few hours later in the same spot; but the Demi-SLR gives me more comfort. I do have p Moon sq. r Saturn beginning a few days later, so there will likely be some inconvenience, cost, discomfort, etc. in the aftermath.
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Re: My SLR

Post by SteveS » Mon Dec 03, 2018 5:28 am

I have had 3 eye surgeries. What kind of eye surgery Jim?

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Re: My SLR

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:32 am

SteveS wrote:
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I have had 3 eye surgeries. What kind of eye surgery Jim?
Corneal cross-linking, a procedure to stop keratoconus from getting worse.
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Re: My SLR

Post by SteveS » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:20 am

Jim wrote:
Corneal cross-linking, a procedure to stop keratoconus from getting worse.
Never heard of this eye disease, had to go online and read about it. Will you only need the surgical eye drop treatment or will your eye receive the so-called "tiny arc-shaped corneal inserts?

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Re: My SLR

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Dec 03, 2018 7:50 am

SteveS wrote:
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Jim wrote:
Corneal cross-linking, a procedure to stop keratoconus from getting worse.
Never heard of this eye disease, had to go online and read about it. Will you only need the surgical eye drop treatment or will your eye receive the so-called "tiny arc-shaped corneal inserts?
No insertion. Primarily the drop treatment but might (I'm not sure) require the preliminary scraping of the cornea. Only the right eye has enough cornea density for this, the left eye (which is worse) isn't a candidate for it, so we'll just have to keep watching it and see if something more extreme is needed in the future (like a cornea transplant).

I'm a medical peculiarity in this regard. Normally keratoconus develops in the very young (teens, in particular) and is totally stable (i.e., the worst it's going to get) by about 40. Mine, of it existed at all before 60, was at such a slight level that nobody ever saw or mentioned it, then a couple of years ago suddenly got worse fast. For the first 6-12 months of watching it, it seemed stable - not getting worse - but in the last 6 months there has been worsening, so the procedure to stop that is warranted. - In that regard, my timing is good because, until about a year ago, insurance companies weren't covering this procedure.
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Re: My SLR

Post by SteveS » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:00 am

Jim wrote:
In that regard, my timing is good because, until about a year ago, insurance companies weren't covering this procedure.
Yes indeed--timing good :) . I noticed online the procedure costs today are between 2,500 and 4,000, ouch if insurance did not cover.

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Re: My SLR

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:58 am

SteveS wrote:
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Jim wrote:
In that regard, my timing is good because, until about a year ago, insurance companies weren't covering this procedure.
Yes indeed--timing good :) . I noticed online the procedure costs today are between 2,500 and 4,000, ouch if insurance did not cover.
The procedure is covered by insurance. Procedure is $5,000, although the carrier may have negotiated a lower rate. Whatever they negotiated, I pay 10%, so top is $500 from me. The bummer (but in a good way LOL) is that I'm likely to have to get a new contact lens for that eye because it will have changed, so there goes a new $500 out of pocket. (My medical coverage is really good, but the separate optometry plan only covers one pair of lenses every other year.)
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Re: My SLR

Post by SteveS » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:42 am

:) Are you still under some Mar-Jupiter symbolism for money leaving the bank account?

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Re: My SLR

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:51 am

Oh god yes. That square is all over the place. In fact, it's still here in this Demi-SLR discussed above.
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t Sun on WP -1°38' [sq. Neptune 4°55']
t Jupiter on WP +2°15' [conj. Mercury 2°18' in mundo]
-- Su/Ju on WP 0°19'
-- Sun-Jupiter conj. 2°17' in mundo
t Mars on MC -8°12' [conj. Neptune 4°11']
-- Sun-Mars sq. 0°43'
-- Mars-Jupiter sq. 4°30'
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Re: My SLR

Post by SteveS » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:43 am

Believe me Jim, I know the feeling money leaving the bank account of that Mars-Jupiter you are experiencing, since I was born with rising Jupiter partile 120 Mars. :) I have learned to live with it trying to keep enough $ in account to cover when a Mars-Jupiter hits--- without putting me in debt.

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Re: My SLR

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:41 pm

As an update, the doctor had to postpone a week. No surgery until the very last day of this demi, which means it's kinda under this and kinda under the next SLR. More later, but I'm a little glad not to be doing it the day of a Mars-Neptune conjunction.
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Re: My SLR

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:10 pm

I'd be more than a little glad of it, although I know you'd like to get it over with.

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Re: My SLR

Post by SteveS » Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:28 am

Jim wrote:
...but I'm a little glad not to be doing it the day of a Mars-Neptune conjunction.
Indeed! Will you be restrained in any way with your normal everyday activities after this procedure?

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