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Re: My SLR

Post by Jim Eshelman » Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:24 am

Essentially no vision in that one eye for one to three weeks.
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Re: My SLR

Post by Jim Eshelman » Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:37 pm

It seems this SLR has come out thematically as expected, but with the details all different. I haven't had the surgery yet because I developed an idiopathic flare-up in the left eye (anterior uveitis) which caused it to be delayed. This condition is basically caused by nothing in particular, or nothing we're ever likely to know - it's idiopathic and, beyond immediate symptoms, harmless - and characterized by a slight build-up of white blood on the back of the iris causing symptoms similar to conjunctivitis (surface burning, the eye feeling a little bruised, unusual sensitivity to light). It's under control now (more or less gone), I just have to continue tapering off the steroid eye drops for the next couple of weeks. Meanwhile, it postponed the surgery. (The one disadvantage of waiting for this to heal is that my insurance deductible is met until December 31, then I go back to out-of-pocket for a while, but not for long: the surgery, when it occurs will more than meet the deductible.)

Pretty much all of this is in the SLR. The essentials are all there, just not the details working the same way.

Friday is my next SLR and it's rather intent. I'll start a new tread on it. My only concern is that it comes just as I'm going to a doctor for some routine tests that I expect to be negative (trying to get all the little diagnostic things in that I can before the end of the month for insurance advantage).
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SLR 15 Dec 2018

Post by Jim Eshelman » Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:38 pm

The new SLR occurs December 15, 2018, 1:44:44 AM PST at my home in LA.

t Pluto on IC +0°09'
r Sun on Asc +0°55'
-- t Pluto sq. r Sun 0°46' in mundo
-- t Venus-Pluto sq. 1°24' PVP
-- surely t Venus sq. r Sun PVP (but not easily able to calculate orb)
r Mars on IC -4°08'
r Neptune on Asc -7°27'
r Uranus on MC -8°18
r Jupiter on MC -8°33'
-- r Jupiter-Uranus conj. 0°15' in mundo
-- r Uranus-Neptune sq. 0°51' in mundo
-- r Jupiter-Neptune sq. 1°05' in mundo
-- r Mars-Neptune sq. 2°25'
-- r Mars-Uranus op. 4°10' in mundo
-- r Mars-Jupiter op. 4°25' in mundo

t Moon-Mars conj. 3°32' (background)
t Uranus sq. r Jupiter 0°12'
t Uranus sq. r Uranus 0°29'
t Sun sq. r Moon 0°57'


Trimming out the larger orbed items as, at the very least, not representing the primary themes, we get:

t Pluto on IC +0°09'
r Sun on Asc +0°55'
-- t Pluto sq. r Sun 0°46' in mundo
-- t Venus-Pluto sq. 1°24' PVP
-- t Venus sq. r Sun PVP
r Mars, Jupiter, Uranus, Neptune more widely angular
-- r Jupiter-Uranus conj. 0°15' in mundo
-- r Uranus-Neptune sq. 0°51' in mundo
-- r Jupiter-Neptune sq. 1°05' in mundo
-- r Mars-Neptune sq. 2°25'

t Uranus sq. r Jupiter 0°12'
t Uranus sq. r Uranus 0°29'
t Sun sq. r Moon 0°57'
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Re: My SLR

Post by SteveS » Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:56 am

Jim wrote:
Friday is my next SLR and it's rather intent.
It appears things are happening to at least delay the eye surgery you need. Keep us informed.

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Re: SLR 15 Dec 2018

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:46 pm

Jim Eshelman wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:38 pm
t Pluto on IC +0°09'
r Sun on Asc +0°55'
-- t Pluto sq. r Sun 0°46' in mundo
-- t Venus-Pluto sq. 1°24' PVP
-- t Venus sq. r Sun PVP
r Mars, Jupiter, Uranus, Neptune more widely angular
-- r Jupiter-Uranus conj. 0°15' in mundo
-- r Uranus-Neptune sq. 0°51' in mundo
-- r Jupiter-Neptune sq. 1°05' in mundo
-- r Mars-Neptune sq. 2°25'

t Uranus sq. r Jupiter 0°12'
t Uranus sq. r Uranus 0°29'
t Sun sq. r Moon 0°57'
The main part of this chart might be summarized as "existential confrontation" - the Pluto-Sun exactly on the angle. The night this set up, we had a small taste of this by coming home to think that, somehow, inexplicably, our cat Kali was missing (only possible by, say, someone in building management coming in and her getting out, both of which were unlikely). We spent half an hour traipsing around the neighborhood at 2 AM, greatly concerned and worried, and eventually returned to find her here. It seems something had spooked her badly while we were out and (against all character) she stayed hidden even when we arrived home.

That was the warm-up. At 6:10 PM tonight I got phase 2. I wouldn't mention it at all except for the sake of learning from SLRs like this. It's premature to give details, but the part that refers to the SLR is this: A totally routine medical test a year ago was completely normal and this year was a little out of bounds. A specialist reran it, and it was even higher, and ran a more subtle test that went the opposite direction we'd like. This is still early in diagnosis: the next step is another diagnostic procedure that will happen in the next 30-60 days. Odds remain against it being anything truly serious, though perhaps about even of it being something minor and correctible.

So, at the moment, all I have from it is (1) appointments to schedule and (2) knowing there is a possibility of something serious. Run the chart for 6:10 PM at my residence and note Ascendant contact to my Sun, transiting Sun on my IC, Pluto setting, and transiting Moon partile opposite my Saturn (a Moon-Venus opposition on my Saturn). It's somber but not distressed (since I know some of you would want to know how distressed I might be).

Anyway... if I haven't mentioned it before... existential confrontation is a fine Sun-Pluto key phrase.
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Re: My SLR

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn » Wed Dec 19, 2018 12:18 am

That sucks.

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Re: My SLR

Post by SteveS » Wed Dec 19, 2018 2:47 am

Jim wrote:
It's somber but not distressed (since I know some of you would want to know how distressed I might be).
Yes, keep us informed.

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Re: My SLR

Post by Veronica » Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:04 am

think happy thoughts.
Minor and correctable are fine words as well when dealing with things showing up in the charts.

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Re: My SLR

Post by Avshalom Binyamin » Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:10 pm

Sending love.

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Re: SLR 15 Dec 2018

Post by Jim Eshelman » Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:42 pm

Jim Eshelman wrote:
Tue Dec 18, 2018 6:46 pm
Jim Eshelman wrote:
Wed Dec 12, 2018 3:38 pm
t Pluto on IC +0°09'
r Sun on Asc +0°55'
-- t Pluto sq. r Sun 0°46' in mundo
-- t Venus-Pluto sq. 1°24' PVP
-- t Venus sq. r Sun PVP
r Mars, Jupiter, Uranus, Neptune more widely angular
-- r Jupiter-Uranus conj. 0°15' in mundo
-- r Uranus-Neptune sq. 0°51' in mundo
-- r Jupiter-Neptune sq. 1°05' in mundo
-- r Mars-Neptune sq. 2°25'

t Uranus sq. r Jupiter 0°12'
t Uranus sq. r Uranus 0°29'
t Sun sq. r Moon 0°57'
The main part of this chart might be summarized as "existential confrontation" - the Pluto-Sun exactly on the angle.
This does seem to have been the main characteristic, and it took up the entire month. After a two-hour MRI last week, I thought I was getting the results on Friday (after my new SLR sets up) but he called me today to confirm that nothing worrisome was found. All the parts were in the right places, nothing missing, and nothing new that wasn't supposed to be there. This also comes as transiting Jupiter and Uranus both aspect my natal Jupiter and Uranus (under a double Jupiter-Uranus SSR) and on the day that transiting Sun and Pluto conjoin on this SLR IC mirroring the transiting Sun to natal Pluto of the Lunar itself.

Started and finished almost in a first-day-to-last cycle of the SLR, since my new SLR is day after tomorrow... so I'll probably be feeling it tomorrow.
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SLR 1/11/2019

Post by Jim Eshelman » Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:42 pm

t Jupiter on MC -5°55'
r Pluto on Dsc -7°44'
t Venus on MC +9°13'
r Moon on Asc -9°16'
t Neptune on Asc -9°36'
-- t Neptune conj. r. Moon 0°20' in mundo
-- t Jupiter-Neptune sq. 0°22'
-- r Moon-Pluto op. 1°32' in mundo
-- t Jupiter sq. r Pluto 1°49' in mundo
-- t Neptune op. r Pluto 1°52' in mundo
-- t Jupiter sq. r Moon 3°21' in mundo

Moon-Mars conj 4°55' in mundo

t Uranus sq. r Jupiter 0°00'
t Sun-Pluto sq. 0°13' (0°08' in mundo)
t Uranus sq. r Uranus 0°17'
t Mercury conj. r Saturn 0°39' in mundo
t Uranus op. r Neptune 0°48' in mundo

This will be an exceptional test of mundane aspects in a Lunar Return. Transiting Neptune conjoins natal Moon within a few minutes mundanely even though they remain 8° apart ecliptically. I'm not looking forward to that (even with Jupiter softening it a little), but it will be interesting - along with other mundane-only aspects above.
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Re: My SLR

Post by SteveS » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:15 am

Jim, posts of late relating to SLR's with you, me, and sotonye appear to be dealing with certain health issues. If my memory is serving me, didn't Bradley write about SLR's at times are basically a health related chart???

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Re: My SLR

Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:28 am

I think to a certain sense that's true, yes - in the same way that (from one point of view) lunar ingresses are basically weather charts.

I think much of what we're dealing with of late is the Jupiter-Neptune square. It has numerous themes that relate to the consultation of our culture's version of the "medicine man." (Read my basic notes of Jupiter-Neptune plus Ebertin's page to see how these things start to converge. If I had time this morning, I could write out six or eight interwoven themes, some positive and some negative, that deal with the whole process.)
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Nastal & SLR Moons - different Moons!

Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:30 am

Maybe I should give this post its own thread, but I'll handle it here for the moment.

My SLR above for 1/11/19 is a good example of a point that is too often missed: In the mundoscope, transiting and natal Moons are usually not in the same place.

When you look at the horoscope version of the SLR above, Moon isn't what catches your attention. Jupiter, Venus, and Neptune grab attention visually, and, on careful calculation of the mundoscope, we learn that our visual impressions are all correct. Jupiter is 5°55' before MC, Venus 9°13' after MC (about a third of the 9th house), and Neptune 9°36' before Ascendant (again, not quite a third of the 1st house). Also, if we look only at the mundoscope of the SLR we confirm that Moon isn't foreground: Transiting Moon in the SLR is 16°55' below Asc.

However, natal Moon is only 9°16' below Ascendant! This is over 7° different, event though they are exactly conjunct in longitude! This makes a GIGANTIC difference, presuming we are correct (and following Fagan's original teachings) that the mundane aspects are of great (if not the greatest) importance in SLRs.

Explanation: At my birth, Moon was at Sidereal longitude 27°24'00" Aquarius and latitude 4N46 (that is, it was 4°46' north of the ecliptic). For my January 11 SLR, Moon is also at 27°24'00" Aquarius - that's the definition of a lunar return - but its latitude is on the other side of the ecliptic, at 4S23', or 4°23' south of the ecliptic. This sort of latitude difference means that they rise and set (or even culminate and anticulminate) at different parts of the ecliptic.

Here are the Sidereal longitudes with which my natal Moon (at the latitude of my home in LA) is angular, and then the same for SLR transiting Moon:
N Moon long 27°24' Aqu, on Asc 20°02' Aqu, on MC/IC 25°22' Aqu, on Dsc 28°19' Aqu
T Moon 27°24' Aqu, on Asc 4°18' Pis, on MC/IC 29°18' Aqu, on Dsc 26°33' Aqu

That's quite a difference!

This affects how we interpret Moon in the SLR. In general, there is only one Moon in a Lunar Return - natal Moon - just as the only Sun in a Solar Return is natal Sun. Using only ecliptical aspects, this means that any Moon aspect in the SLR is really a transit to your natal Moon, not an aspect with SLR (transiting) Moon.

Oh, but that all changes when we realize there are two such Moons! The 1/11 SLR above discloses a series of aspects to natal Moon that you don't see in the horoscope AND that don't exist for transiting (SLR) Moon. For example, about the time my Moon gets to Ascendant, it has a paran to my Pluto that doesn't exist in my natal horoscope. In this SLR, then, we have the following pretty amazing aspects not evident from just glancing at the ecliptical chart above. (I use house nomenclature to make the mundoscope positions more obvious.)

5°55' in 10th: t Jupiter
7°44' in 7th: r Pluto
9°16' in 1st: r Moon
9°36' in 1st: t Neptune

These four form six aspects, most of them under 2°, and a pattern that would not be evident any other way! It shows a natal Moon-Pluto aspect ("new" to me for the length of this SLR), with Neptune conjunct my Moon and opposite my Pluto, and all three of them square a culminating Jupiter.

OTOH, in this particular chart, we also have transiting Moon making an aspect that natal Moon does not. It's not super close in this case, though (in another chart) it could be quite close. Here is the aspect:

Moon-Mars conj 4°55' in mundo
16°55' in 1st: t Moon
21°50' in 1st: t Mars

Though they might be quite similar, transiting Moon conjunct transiting Mars is a different aspect, with different nuances, than transiting Mars conjunct natal Moon.

I thought I'd take this opportunity to demonstrate.
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Re: My SLR

Post by SteveS » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:33 am

Jim wrote:
For example, about the time my Moon gets to Ascendant, it has a paran to my Pluto that doesn't exist in my natal horoscope.
Now I understand why you are allowing more attention to your 1/11/2019 SLR, but certainly have never ever considered this type analysis for a SLR!
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Moon-Mars conj 4°55' in mundo
16°55' in 1st: t Moon
21°50' in 1st: t Mars
Though they might be quite similar, transiting Moon conjunct transiting Mars is a different aspect, with different nuances, than transiting Mars conjunct natal Moon.
Question: Not sure I completely understand where you are coming from---is it possible with what you are seeing in this SLR, you may be allowing for your SLR Moon-Mars 90 to be timed by this SLR. Allowing that Moon-Pluto Paran with a Moon-Mars possibility for manifestation is certainly pause for concern, particularly concerning a timing matter for health related issues.
Jim wrote:
I thought I'd take this opportunity to demonstrate.
A damn good possible learning demonstration pertaining to the optional mundane astronomical aspects to consider for Sidereal Astrology. Very interesting! Please offer us your conclusion about this demonstration after the time expires on this SLR.

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Re: My SLR

Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:49 am

SteveS wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:33 am
Jim wrote:Moon-Mars conj 4°55' in mundo
16°55' in 1st: t Moon
21°50' in 1st: t Mars
Though they might be quite similar, transiting Moon conjunct transiting Mars is a different aspect, with different nuances, than transiting Mars conjunct natal Moon.
Question: Not sure I completely understand where you are coming from---is it possible with what you are seeing in this SLR, you may be allowing for your SLR Moon-Mars 90 to be timed by this SLR. Allowing that Moon-Pluto Paran with a Moon-Mars possibility for manifestation is certainly pause for concern, particularly concerning a timing matter for health related issues.
The above example is transiting Moon, not natal Moon. The point is that, in the mundoscope, transiting Moon and natal Moon are 7-8° apart and so make very different aspects.

Natal Moon is opposite natal Pluto, conjunct transiting Neptune, and square transiting Jupiter - but transiting (SLR) Moon makes NONE of those.

In contrast (as shown in the quoted section above), transiting (i.e., SLR) Moon is conjunct transiting Mars - but natal Moon doesn't make that aspec ct at all (they are about 12° apart).
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Re: My SLR

Post by SteveS » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:54 am

Jim, it is going to take me some time to think my way through this 'demonstration.' Question: Situations like this SLR demonstration only arise when we are relocated large distance from our birth location, correct?

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Re: My SLR

Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:40 am

SteveS wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:54 am
Jim, it is going to take me some time to think my way through this 'demonstration.' Question: Situations like this SLR demonstration only arise when we are relocated large distance from our birth location, correct?
Not true.

They occur when the celestial latitude of natal Moon and transiting (SLR) Moon are widely divergent. (In the example, natal Moon is 4-5° north latitude and SLR Moon is 4-5° south latitude, so they are abut 9° different.)

If I had been born in LA (no relocation), it would have been the same situation. The key is that my 27°24' Aquarius Moon rises in Los Angeles at 20°02' Aquarius (i.e., when that degree is on Ascendant) but SLR Moon in the 1/11 SLR rises at 4°18' Pisces. Moon can often be quite differently placed mundanely than ecliptically.

Transiting Moon's latitude when at the same degree of longitude fluctuates in a 19-year pattern based on where the lunar nodes are. Right now, the North Node is roughly opposite where it was when I was born (early Cancer vs. mid-Sagittarius) so the effect is greater for me at the moment.

Your natal Moon at 15°22' Scorpio has latitude 1°15' South. At your next SLR, Moon's latitude will be 3°50' North. That's quite a difference.

In fact, let's work this out. Your next SLR occurs January 30, 2019, 10:23:40 AM in Springville. If you calculate the SLR and its mundoscope, you will see Moon 6°12' in the 12th house. (This is transiting Moon of the SLR.)

But if you sue the conversion Excel spreadsheet to determine the mundoscope positions of your natal planets in the SLR, we find your natal Moon is 8°59' in the 12th house. This time the difference isn't so huge, but they are still almost 3° different mundanely. As you can see, sometimes this would make a difference.

BTW, just for your interest (since I have it all calculated), here are some interesting foreground aspects from the mundoscope of that upcoming SLR:

20°20' of 9th house: r Neptune
22°03' of 12th house: t Venus
23°59' of 9th house: r Mercury
26°01' of 6th house: r Uranus
29°37' of 3rd house: t Mars

Transiting Mars is half a degree from IC. Mundanely, it squares natal Uranus 3°36'. You also suddenly have a natal Mercury-Uranus square (2°03') which doesn't appear in your natal horoscope at all - it's a mundane aspect formed from how your natal planets are oriented at the time of the SLR. (Yes, you suddenly have Mercury square Uranus for a month!)

You also have a mundane square of foreground transiting Venus to natal Neptune (1°43') and natal Mercury (1°56') - midpoint 0°06' wide - and these don't appear ecliptically at all. Sounds to me like a month of joyful of cheerful breakthrough astrological discovery. :)

This is important: Fagan wrote over and over, from decade to decade, that the most important aspects in a solar or lunar return are (one way he said it:) conjunctions, oppositions, and the square when it approximates a paran. Think about what he's really saying: Ecliptical conjunctions and oppositions usually approximate mundane conjunctions and oppositions, but the squares are often different. What his words really mean are that the most important aspects are mundane conjunctions, oppositions, and squares.

Now, this is not dogma. It's a theory to be tested. But it hasn't been easy to test until the last year or two when we've had the conversion spreadsheet. My current conclusion is that both ecliptical and mundane aspects of foreground planets are important in solunar returns - whether transit-to-transit, transit-to-natal, or natal-to-natal. Notice in the above example (your next SLR) that transiting Mars makes no ecliptical aspect to your natal Uranus at all, and yet (both of them close to the angles) it makes a mundane square within 3°36'. Your natal Mercury and Uranus have no ecliptical aspect, but in the framework of your lunar return they suddenly have a mundane square within about 2°. And so forth.
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Re: My SLR

Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:43 am

So here is how I would break down your January 30 SLR, Steve. The lists below do the following:
1. Identify all natal and transiting angular planets. (Rank these by closeness.)
2. Identify all aspects (both ecliptical and mundane) within 5° between/among these foreground planets, whether transit-to-transit, transit-to-natal, or natal-to natal. (Rank these by closeness.)
3. Add any Moon aspects. within 5°.
4. Add any partile transits even if not foreground.

t Mars on IC +0°23'
t Pluto sq. MC 1°33'
t Saturn on EP 2°30'
r Uranus on Dsc +3°59'
r Mercury on MC +6°01'
t Venus on Asc +7°52'
r Neptune on MC +9°40'

-- t Saturn sq. r Mercury 0°23'
-- t Mars-Pluto sq. 1°45'
-- t Venus sq. r Neptune 1°48' in mundo
-- t Venus op. r Mercury 1°51' in mundo
-- r Mercury-Uranus sq. 2°02' in mundo
-- t Venus op. r Uranus 2°13'
-- t Mars sq. r Uranus 3°36' in mundo
-- r Mercury-Neptune conj. 3°39' in mundo
-- t Saturn sq. r Neptune 3°45'
-- t Mars op. r Mercury 4°40'

Moon-Neptune sq. 4°30'

Five of the ten aspects either only exist mundanely or are closer than mundanely than ecliptically. (Venus to natal Uranus is closer ecliptically, but exists both ways.) Just to emphasis the comparison, here are the aspects of foreground planets in this SLR if you only count ecliptical aspects:

t Saturn sq. r Mercury 0°23'
t Mars-Pluto sq. 1°45'
t Venus op. r Uranus 2°13'
t Saturn sq. r Neptune 3°45'
r Mercury-Neptune conj. 4°09'
t Mars op. r Mercury 4°40'

Here they are if you count ecliptical AND mundane aspects. (It's a very different chart.)

t Saturn sq. r Mercury 0°23'
t Mars-Pluto sq. 1°45'
t Venus sq. r Neptune 1°48' in mundo
t Venus op. r Mercury 1°51' in mundo
r Mercury-Uranus sq. 2°02' in mundo
t Venus op. r Uranus 2°13'
t Mars sq. r Uranus 3°36' in mundo
r Mercury-Neptune conj. 3°39' in mundo
t Saturn sq. r Neptune 3°45'
t Mars op. r Mercury 4°40'
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Re: My SLR

Post by SteveS » Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:38 pm

Jim, I think you are on to something very important pertaining to solunars, but I also think only you understand this in a way to practice and monitor this ‘demonstration’ for yourself. Relative to what is going on in my immediate environment pertaining to certain health issues, which appear minor, I have since the beginning of my current SSR, earmarked my ecliptical Jan 30 SLR and Feb 13 demi-lunar as the most likely time periods for manifesting my partile SSR Mars-90 Uranus!!! Ebertin speaks of Mars-Uranus combo’s as having higher % of having to do with ‘surgical operations.’ What has me most concerned is the possibility of my new minor heath issues growing into something major which may time another operational procedure due to my past heart issues which have already manifested a minor operational procedure. I do believe my current SLR is manifesting astrological discoveries, including your posts to me in this thread about these mundane aspects in my Jan 30 SLR. Ecliptically, I view my first harmonic Jan 30 SLR as very malefic as well as my Feb 13 second harmonic SLR. Of course this does not necessarily mean these two SLR’s will manifest something heath wise, it could manifest as something entirely different.

When you have time based upon our recent posts about health related issues with you, I, and Sotonye with SLR’s, I think you should start a topic opening up questions for us to explore about health related issues pertaining to SLR’s. I do think there will be some very important astrological discoveries for me in exploring this ‘health’ area for SLR’s. I know I have a-lot of questions to ask you with your vast knowledge’s in the field of Sidereal Astrology.

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Re: My SLR

Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:03 pm

The main premise is simple:
1. Start with a list of all natal and transiting planets foreground or angular in the SLR.
2. Interpret all conjunctions, oppositions, and squares of these foreground planets within 5° (regardless of whether they are transit-to-transit, transit-to-natal, or natal-to-natal).

In an ecliptical world this is straightforward, and has been the standard of SLR interpretation for at least 50 years.

The complication is that (according to Fagan and, so far, a year or two of observation) ecliptical and mundane aspects are both equally valid (at least of foreground planets).

The only new factor I added in today's posting is something I thought some people might not know: that, even though natal and transiting Moon are in exact ecliptical conjunction in the SLR, they can be many degrees apart in the mundoscope.
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Re: My SLR

Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu Jan 10, 2019 3:05 pm

I haven 't gone as far as tracking all (foreground and non-foreground) aspects in the mundoscopes because Solar Fire doesn't give any way to display these calculations side by side. I can do it on a kind of "90° mundoscope list" like this, though (using my January 11 SLR as an example):

5°57' in 10th: t Jupiter
7°44' in 7th: r Pluto
9°16' in 1st: r Moon
9°37' in 1st: t Neptune
16°55' in 1st: t Moon
21°50' in 1st: t Mars
28°22' in 7th: r Sun
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6°17' in 8th: r Neptune
7°05' in 2nd: t Uranus
16°22' in 8th: r Mercury
18°44' in 8th: r Saturn
19°23' in 11th: t Mercury
21°30' in 11th: t Saturn
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1°28' in 12th: t Pluto
1°36' in 12th: t Sun
2°43' in 9th: r Venus
6°60' in 12th: r Mars
8°51' in 6th: r Jupiter
8°55' in 6th: r Uranus
20°47' in 9th: t Venus
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Re: My SLR

Post by SteveS » Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:00 am

Jim wrote:
I haven 't gone as far as tracking all (foreground and non-foreground) aspects in the mundoscopes because Solar Fire doesn't give any way to display these calculations side by side. I can do it on a kind of "90° mundoscope list" like this, though (using my January 11 SLR as an example):
I sure do wish Solar Fire had a methodology for tracking a 'mundoscope list,' for there is no doubt-- to ignore mundane aspects is to ignore the importance observation Fagan made about mundane aspects where Jim writes:
The complication is that (according to Fagan and, so far, a year or two of observation) ecliptical and mundane aspects are both equally valid (at least of foreground planets).
What this means to me is at times critical astro info is not seen, which could at times make an important difference in delineating a chart. Thanks Jim for pointing this out with your Jan 11 SLR.

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SLR 2/7/2019

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:01 pm

My February 7 SLR looks more serious than most.

r Mars on Dsc +0°43'
t Pluto on Dsc +1°23'
t Mars sq. Asc -2°27'
r Uranus on Asc -4°59'
r Jupiter on Asc -5°27'
t Saturn on Dsc +6°56'
r Sun on IC -7°15'

-- r Jupiter-Uranus conj. 0°17'
-- t Pluto conj. r Mars 0°40' in mundo
-- t Mars sq. r Mars 1°41'
-- t Saturn sq. r Sun 1°45'
-- r Sun-Jupiter sq. 1°48' in mundo
-- r Sun-Uranus sq. 2°16' in mundo
-- t Mars sq. r Uranus 2°43'
-- t Mars sq. r Jupiter 3°00'
-- t Mars-Pluto sq. 3°46'
-- r Mars-Uranus op. 4°16' in mundo
-- t Pluto sq. r Sun 4°23'
-- r Mars-Jupiter op. 4°41'

t Sun sq. r Mercury 0°05' in mundo
t Uranus sq. r Jupiter 0°26'
t Uranus sq. r Uranus 0°42'
t Mars op. r Neptune 0°44'
t Jupiter-Neptune sq. 0°46' in mundo
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Re: SLR 2/7/2019

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:53 pm

Taking only the closest factors (similar to what I would regard for an ingress) gives:

r Mars on Dsc +0°43'
t Pluto on Dsc +1°23'

-- r Jupiter-Uranus conj. 0°17'
-- t Pluto conj. r Mars 0°40' in mundo
-- t Mars sq. r Mars 1°41'
-- t Saturn sq. r Sun 1°45'
-- r Sun-Jupiter sq. 1°48' in mundo
-- r Sun-Uranus sq. 2°16' in mundo
-- t Mars sq. r Uranus 2°43'
-- t Mars sq. r Jupiter 3°00'

I'm not so crazy about that partile transit of Pluto to my Mars exactly on angles (squared by Mars), especially at the same time Saturn squares my Sun. It's not as if Pluto to Mars has been creeping up and teasing... it's just suddenly there out of the blue and exactly angular.

Thoughts?
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