JAE Lunar Returns 2021

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Re: JAE Lunar Returns 2021

Post by Veronica » Tue Aug 10, 2021 7:25 am

That is fantastic news!!!

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SLR 8/23/2021

Post by Jim Eshelman » Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:29 am

The new SLR (Monday night: effective from Sunday night) is quite good, due to natal planets, which seem to run the show for the month. It occurs August 23 at (:59 PM PDT when I surely will be home. - The one concern is natal Neptune - you'd never see it without the mundoscope! - which zooms past the rest in a razor-thin finish. (Moon has a couple of malefic aspects but they're both background, hoping that minimizes their importance in the face of the close angularities.)

r Eris on Asc -9°39'
r Saturn on Dsc -8°41'
t Eris on Asc -7°11'

r Mercury on Dsc -5°34'
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r Neptune on Dsc 0°00'
r Jupiter on N +0°08'
r Sun on WP +0°12'
r Uranus on N +0°25'


-- r Jupiter-Uranus conj. 0°17'
-- r Saturn-Eris op. 0°58' mundo

-- t Eris op. r Saturn 1°30' mundo
-- t Eris op. r Mercury 1°37' mundo
-- r Uranus-Neptune sq. 2°00'
-- r Jupiter-Neptune sq. 2°16'
-- r Mercury-Saturn conj. 2°24'

-- t Eris conj. r Eris 2°28' mundo

OTHER PARTILE:
t Pluto-Eris sq. 0°03'
t Neptune conj. r Moon 0°05'
-- t Mars op. r Moon 0°53' mundo
t Jupiter sq. r Venus 0°14'
t Jupiter op. r Pluto 0°28'
t Pluto sq. r Venus 0°32' mundo
t Pluto conj. r Mars 0°4o' mundo
t Eris sq. r Mars 0°44'



Summarizing, the Class 1 angularities and foreground aspects (excluding Eris as speculative) sort as follows:

r Neptune on Dsc 0°00'
r Jupiter on N 0°08'
r Sun on WP 0°12'
r Jupiter-Uranus conj. 0°17'
r Uranus on N 0°25'

r Uranus-Neptune sq. 2°00'
r Jupiter-Neptune sq. 2°16'
r Mercury-Saturn conj. 2°24'
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Demi-SLR 9/7/2021

Post by Jim Eshelman » Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:10 pm

My Demi-SLR next Tuesday, September 7, at 7:22 AM PDT is the start of a run of mostly painful-looking SLRs and Demi-SLRs through the end of the year. (Fortunately, this one occurs under a positive full SLR.) I'll be at work when it occurs, so I'm setting this up for Century City (even though the difference is small).

Of interest: There are several PVP aspects. Are these valid in solunars? Sun-Jupiter is one. A little outside our PV threshold but close in orb are Mercury-Mars-Neptune.

r Eris on Dsc -9°22'
t Moon on EP-a -0°57'
t Mars on Asc -0°06'
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t Neptune on WP-a +0°56'
r Moon on Dsc +1°35'

t Sun on Asc +9°36'

-- t Moon-Neptune op. 0°14' mundo
-- t Mars op. r Moon 1°41' mundo
-- t Mars-Neptune op. 3°15'

OTHER PARTILE:
t Pluto-Eris sq. 0°05'
t Venus co. r Neptune 0°09'
t Pluto co. r Mars 0°33'
t Jupiter op. r Pluto 0°36' mundo
t Eris sq. r Mars 0°38'
t Pluto sq. r Neptune 0°45' mundo
t Venus-Pluto sq. 0°58' mundo
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SLR 9/20/2021

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Sep 21, 2021 4:14 pm

I guess I forgot to post the new SLR, which came in Sep 20, 2021, 6:10 AM PDT, when I was already at work in Century City. (Elsewhere in this forum I've already written things that hit one after the other on Sunday as this SLR was coming into being.)

Something interesting is that this isn't really transiting Neptune on natal Moon: The closest aspect is transiting Neptune conjunct transiting Moon (being mundane, there is a difference between the two Moons: Natal Moon is 2°47' above Descendant). This means something a little different. Also, presuming PVP aspects work as well in solunars as in ingresses (there's no logical reason they shouldn't), this Moon-Neptune is benefically aspected.

t Sun on Asc 7°10'
t Moon on Dsc -0°58'
t Neptune on Dsc -0°51'


-- t Moon-Neptune co. 0°07' mundo
-- t Jupiter-Neptune sq. 0°34' PVP
-- t Moon-Jupiter sq. 0°41' PVP

OTHER PARTILE:
t Pluto co. r Mars 0°25'
t Sun co. r Asc 0°25'
t Mercury sq. r Mars 0°40'
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Re: SLR 9/20/2021

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Sep 21, 2021 4:28 pm

When I relocate this to Memphis (where I will be during this SLR), it looks quite different, of course. Interestingly, this one has PVP aspects, too - they are quite rare but appear for both locations.

t Mercury on Asc -9°37'
t Pluto on IC -8°55'
r Mars on IC -8°35'

r Sun on EP -0°37'

-- t Pluto co. r Mars 0°20' mundo
-- t Mercury-Pluto sq. 0°49' mundo
-- t Mercury sq. r Mars 1°40'
-- t Venus-Uranus op. 3°00' PVP
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Re: JAE Lunar Returns 2021

Post by SteveS » Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:29 am

Jim, I don't believe any of the possible negative symbolism in the relocated SLR to Memphis will manifest since it set-up in LA. Keep us informed. IMO, I think the first couple of days in Memphis will be dominated by your very benefic SQ

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Re: JAE Lunar Returns 2021

Post by Jim Eshelman » Wed Sep 22, 2021 8:27 am

SteveS wrote:
Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:29 am
Jim, I don't believe any of the possible negative symbolism in the relocated SLR to Memphis will manifest since it set-up in LA. Keep us informed. IMO, I think the first couple of days in Memphis will be dominated by your very benefic SQ
I don't consider it all that negative since the only closely angular planet is Sun. BTW, the Demi (which also sets up in LA) is quite similar in Memphis, but with natal Sun (conjoined by Mercury) exactly angular, and more Mercury-Mars.

But I also don't have any sense of negative consequences. (For example: Afflicted Mercury foreground, but the plane is NOT going to crash <g>.) The aura of the new SSR is so powerful, I think it overrides everything.

OTOH, on the issue of where the SLR is effective, I have numerous examples of SLRs (mine and others') that set up one place and then one goes somewhere else during the term. Both of them work - the charts for both locations are usually quite powerful. Unlike solar returns, I think the lunars must be more adaptable and flexible (like Moon). Probably the most famous in my collection is JFK's assassination: The chart set up in Washington but its Dallas relocation had Mars square Asc 0°29' (as part of the famous Mars-Uranus-Pluto of that event). John Lennon famously was bouncing around western Europe looking for a place they could get married and famously landed and married in Gibraltar, where SLER Venus squared MC 0°06' among other things. Lee Harvey Oswald arrived in Dallas after his 11/1963 SLR setup and (among other things) it had Mars partile conjunct EP there. Martin Luther King wasn't in Memphis when his final SLR set up, but in Memphis chart chart had natal Saturn precisely on MC (part of his natal Mars-Saturn opposition, the two squared by setting Uranus-Pluto).
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Re: JAE Lunar Returns 2021

Post by SteveS » Wed Sep 22, 2021 9:36 am

I see, the operating Sidereal Astrologer always knows best for themselves. :)

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