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Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon May 15, 2017 6:02 pm

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SteveS wrote:I was recently informed by a betting colleague that my wife’s PSSR for Jan 6th featured an exact Saturn conjunction to her PSSR MC, which only occurs once within a solar year. Jan 6th was the day my wife’s beloved Auburn Tigers lost the National Championship game. Cyril Fagan was an advocate of the PSSR. If anyone ever sees a Windows astrological program coming on the market calculating the PSSR, please let me know for my data base of sports figures and sports fans.

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Re: PSSRs

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon May 15, 2017 6:02 pm

SteveS wrote:
If anyone ever sees a Windows astrological program coming on the market calculating the PSSR, please let me know for my data base of sports figures and sports fans.
I have been informed Janus 4.3 will calculate PSSR's. This program will be a welcome addition for my analysis with sports fans and certain key sports figures.

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Re: PSSRs

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon May 15, 2017 6:02 pm

Jupiter Sets At Dawn wrote:I think the next question is will it calculate them correctly?
Doesn't that software come with a free trial?

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Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon May 15, 2017 6:03 pm

SteveS wrote:Yes, they will calculate them correctly. I will send you a PM for your mind to see about verifying correct calculation and where you can purchase if needed. Software comes with a free 30 day trial.

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Re: PSSRs

Post by coolcoolwcr » Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:31 am

can anyone of you teach me how to calculate PSSR with janus software? I am curious to know and I have a 30 day trial version of the software.

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Re: PSSRs

Post by SteveS » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:13 am

coolcool wrote:
can anyone of you teach me how to calculate PSSR with janus software? I am curious to know and I have a 30 day trial version of the software.
cool, I have janus in my computer but for some reason I can't get the program to display its functions. My old computer which had janus worked fine, but when I loaded Janus in my new computer it would not function. Since I am licensed owner of Janus, I will put in a call to the Janus people and see if I can isolate my problem. Give me a few days since sometimes it is difficult to contact the technical person at Janus. It seems I remember another member on this forum who has Janus but I can't remember the member's name. Maybe you receive a response from him soon.

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Re: PSSRs

Post by SteveS » Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:37 pm

Cool, I have Janus up and running but I need Jim to check to see if I am calculating PSSR correctly with Janus.

Jim, for July 9th 2:27:47 PM CDT, Saint Clair Springs, Alabama or Springville, Alabama. I show my PSSR MC 19 Cancer 52 (True not Mean). Jim, what do you calculate--your the only one I know to trust for accuracy.

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Re: PSSRs

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:16 pm

SteveS wrote:
Mon Jul 09, 2018 12:37 pm
Cool, I have Janus up and running but I need Jim to check to see if I am calculating PSSR correctly with Janus.

Jim, for July 9th 2:27:47 PM CDT, Saint Clair Springs, Alabama or Springville, Alabama. I show my PSSR MC 19 Cancer 52 (True not Mean). Jim, what do you calculate--your the only one I know to trust for accuracy.
This will take me a while - one reason I have completely abandoned PSSRs. I'll try to find time to calculate one in the next couple of days.
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Re: PSSRs

Post by SteveS » Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:19 pm

OK Jim, no hurry, I told cool it may take a few days.

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Re: PSSRs

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:08 pm

Steve, I just looked closely enough to see I don't understand the question.

It looks like you want a PSSR for your own chart for Springville, yes? If so, for what date and time do you want it calculated?
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Re: PSSRs

Post by SteveS » Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:16 pm

PSSR for July 9th 2:27:47 PM CDT, Springville, Alabama.

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Re: PSSRs

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:22 pm

SteveS wrote:
Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:16 pm
PSSR for July 9th 2:27:47 PM CDT, Springville, Alabama.
OK, I can do it, but it sounds strange that you're asking for an event timed to the second of time.

This is a tedious enough deal - tedious enough that I never do one even for myself - that I'd like not to do it twice.
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Re: PSSRs

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Jul 09, 2018 2:27 pm

Birth: September 20, 1947, 10:00 AM CST, Albertville, AL
Event: July 9, 2018, 2:27:47 PM CDT, Springville, AL

PRIOR SSR:
9/20/17, 9:33:37 AM CDT, Springville, AL
RAMC 8:46:26
Sun RA 178°00'

SUBSEQUENT SSR:
9/20/18, 3:42:34 PM CDT, Springville, AL
RAMC 14:55:26
Sun RA 178°01'

EVENT: RA Sun 109°00'

SSRY = 24:00:00 + 14:55:26 - 8:46:26 = 30:09:00
Divide this by 24:00:03 to get SSRY = 1.256206381722857

RAAS increase = 109°00 - 178°00' = 291°00'

PSSR INCREMENT: 1.256206381722857 x 291°00' = 24:22:13
PSSR RAMC = 8:46:26 + 24:22:13 = 9:08:39

Steve, I haven't checked this yet. Is the ST in your calculations 9:08:39?
That would be for a calculated chart 9/21/17 9:51:50 AM, Springville, AL with MC 19°49' Cancer, Asc 14°0' Libra. This MC is 0°03' off the one you gave.
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Re: PSSRs

Post by coolcoolwcr » Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:59 pm

Thank you both, steves and admin. With your help I think I have found the way to calculate PSSR with janus software.

Steps:
1. select your natal chart
2. goto predictive --> progressed solar return chart
3. choose return type : progressed solar return and progressed mc : PSSR True
Date and time: enter your chosen time of pssr
4. in location column, choose current residence
5. click "cast".

I have verified the validity of these steps by testing it against the example chart given in fagan's primer of sidereal astrology. And the asc given by janus software is only 0.05'' away from the example chart given in the book. Such accuracy is good enough for me.

As for the 30 day trial limit, I think I can go around it someway. That's not a problem for me.

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Re: PSSRs

Post by SteveS » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:26 am

Thanks Jim for verifying that Janus software is correct for accurately calculating the PSSR chart. Matthew (RIP) told me years ago Janus software was NOT accurate for their PSSR calculations, and Matthew called em and Janus said they would fix the PSSR error in their calculations. I needed you to verify if indeed Janus fixed the error, and I appreciate you so much for verifying Janus calculations are correct. I was just using a random example with my current PSSR calculated by Janus for you to verify Janus was correct in their calculations- no event for me--just a random example. Sorry for the confusion.

Yes cool, your instructions for Janus PSSR are spot on.

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