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Transits for the Day of a Heart Attack for Colleague.Friend

Post by SteveS » Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:50 am

My friend and colleague had a heart attack Dec 26 2018 at 4:00 PM. He is scheduled for a triple by-pass surgery next week. The first link below is a bi-wheel of his Natal (inside wheel) and transits for the heart attack (outside wheel). Note t. Mars on his Natal Dsc opposing his Natal Mars. Note t. Saturn partile 90 his Natal Sun.

The second link is his Demi-Lunar covering the time period for his surgery. Note Mars on the Dsc.

1: https://imgur.com/a/daFL4Vz

2: https://imgur.com/a/ZgSp257

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Re: Transits for the Day of a Heart Attack for Colleague.Friend

Post by TheScales_BothWays » Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:58 am

Oh my, that is harsh. 😓 I'm very sorry for your friend, Steve. His SSR for Concord, NC also has natal Saturn partile square MC, although solar Venus rises partile, and s.Jupiter is 1º11' from EP. Hopefully that means a speedy recovery, along with receiving great medical treatment, and care and emotional support from loved ones.
His Sun is also background in his SSR. From Jim's interpretations:
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Natal Sun Background

...Vitality is lowered as well: a background Sun involved in health-depleting aspects is a key indicator of sickness and waning strength, as a result of diminished spirits.
Symbolically, Saturn transiting his Sun and transiting Mars on a natal angle seem very on point for his heart attack. Natally he has a Leo Mars rising/on EP too.

Transiting Jupiter will semisquare his Neptune from January 2, and contact several other planets like his Moon and Uranus as the month passes. Hopefully this gives him relief, and improvement in health and spirits. There's also a Venus-Jupiter conjunction connecting to his Moon on Jan 22-23 or so.

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Re: Transits for the Day of a Heart Attack for Colleague.Friend

Post by SteveS » Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:28 am

Excellent points Scales, particularly about the background Sun in his SSR and his Natal Saturn partile 90 SSR MC. I think he will actually be better health wise after he recovers from the surgery. I had another friend who had the same surgery and he felt much better after he recovered from the by-pass operation. It seems as one's arteries slowly become blocked, one starts gradually feeling worse heath wise not realizing its the unknown slowing blocked arteries that is making them feel bad, not solely old age, but then after a by-pass their heart receives more oxygen and they feel much better. My friend who has already had by-pass said he felt like he had a new body after his recovery from by-pass. I think the same will apply in this case with another friend having by-pass, and I told him he will feel better health wise after he recovers from the operation. :)

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Post by TheScales_BothWays » Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:47 am

Glad to know, Steve. 😊

Thanks for sharing all that about the blocking of the arteries and by-pass surgeries too. Very informative.

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Post by Jim Eshelman » Sat Dec 29, 2018 12:35 pm

Steve, this is a great example. Sympathy to your friend: Though I think you're right that he's going to be fine (or better!), I know this is no fun to go through at the time.

Two transits are obvious stand-outs, and they're classics! Saturn squares his Sun within half a degree, then transiting Mars crosses an angle for an instant crisis. Text-book. However, notice it's also a great example of the effect of precession. If these transits were taken tropically, it would be like subtracting almost a degree (about 53') from all his natal positions. Neither Saturn-Sun nor Mars-Asc would then be in partile orb. It's a great example of how transits must be taken Sidereally (or, if tropically, then one must intentionally adjust for precession).

Two other transits draw my attention. First, in the swift-transit category, Venus conjoined natal Saturn (within 0°03'!). I've seen a lot of Venus-Saturn natal aspects for congenital heart disease, but not for heart attacks or later heart disease. Nonetheless, the metaphorical phrase "heart-broken" often applies very literally by occurring with heart trouble. This makes me wonder if some sort of emotional blow or deep sadness triggered this. (Otherwise, it was probably an existential moment of "Hell no, God, not now, I've still got plans, Dude!" or some such thing.)

The other, larger-scope transit of interest is Uranus opposite his natal Mercury-Neptune. I imagine this refers to a larger range of shifts in his life but, in terms of this particular event, the words that come to mind are "wake-up call," a sudden surprise that forces one to face reality instead of comfortable illusion.
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Re: Transits for the Day of a Heart Attack for Colleague.Friend

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sat Dec 29, 2018 12:44 pm

On his surgery Demi, I'm not worried about the Mars. After all, he's having surgery. It fits the known conditions.

However, I'm a little uncomfortable abut the borderline foreground Sun-Saturn conjunction. What's the day of the surgery?
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Post by Jim Eshelman » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:04 pm

On further digging, I see that, at the moment of the heart attack, his natal Pluto was crossing local IC within about a degree. That's the existential confrontation. (Similarly, progressed MC is about to move into partile conjunction with progressed Pluto and is currently 19' from conjunct natal Pluto.)

Transiting Mercury was exactly setting. Not sure what that means, and I don't want to slip into the "easy answer that doesn't mean anything" of saying this was all a message to him.

His SSR was unusually nice this year. Venus rising, Jupiter on EP. Uranus 25' from natal Moon is most interesting, though not strongly placed: Still, at that orb, it's going to be felt, and probably is what you referred to as "a whole new life" disclosed (though it's tempting to interpret it as stress, too).

Here's a really clean hit: SNQ MC was 1°16' Scorpio for the heart attack, with progressed Saturn 1°53' Scorpio. If the PSSR (mean calculation) was at all relevant it was for the relatively happy outcome, because its Asc hits both his natal and transiting Jupiters.
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Post by Jim Eshelman » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:13 pm

File this one (to follow below) under "this is experimental, so don't for a second think I'm recommending it."

I've wondered for a long time whether there was an equivalent "Novienic Lunar Return" that parallels the Ennead but for Moon instead of Sun. If the one for Sun works so well, why not Moon? (The theoretical answer, of course, is, "Because that gives you too many charts, it's impractical to monitor to them and perhaps even impractical for the psyche to adjust to them that fast!") A "Novienic Lunar Return" would occur every 3 days and the lunar equivalent of the Decilium would occur more often than once a day - on average, about every 18 hours.

Anyway, I noticed that your friend had Moon a few minutes past trine to natal Moon, meaning that transiting Moon had just moved a 40° multiple past natal Moon. Now, there are two stories here for your friend. The main story is that he had a heart attack and will be going for surgery. The other is that he lived and will be going for life-improving surgery. A chart would technically be "right" if it showed either of these stories, though I think we should credit those showing the heart attack as more "on target."

Your friends heart attack was December 26 at 4 PM. On the same day at 3:47 PM, a theoretical Novienic Lunar Return occurred with contacts that look life-saving:

29°15' Cap - MC
29°28' Can - r Jupiter

20°02' Tau - Asc
21°30' So - t Mercury (1°36' above Dsc)
15°41' Sco - t Jupiter (2°37' below Dsc)
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Re: Transits for the Day of a Heart Attack for Colleague.Friend

Post by SteveS » Sat Dec 29, 2018 3:33 pm

Jim wrote:
However, notice it's also a great example of the effect of precession. If these transits were taken tropically, it would be like subtracting almost a degree (about 53') from all his natal positions. Neither Saturn-Sun nor Mars-Asc would then be in partile orb. It's a great example of how transits must be taken Sidereally (or, if tropically, then one must intentionally adjust for precession).
Indeed! Beautiful example.
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I've seen a lot of Venus-Saturn natal aspects for congenital heart disease, but not for heart attacks or later heart disease. Nonetheless, the metaphorical phrase "heart-broken" often applies very literally by occurring with heart trouble.
In the last two years he has had two very mild stokes with other poor health factors, but the doctor contributed this to stress, never checked for blocked arteries. Just goes to prove how you should never rely 100 % on a Doctor. Play it safe, in serious heath matters always get a second opinion.
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This makes me wonder if some sort of emotional blow or deep sadness triggered this. (Otherwise, it was probably an existential moment of "Hell no, God, not now, I've still got plans, Dude!" or some such thing.)
Jim, he has been on pins & needles awaiting to see if he gets a contract for another ‘Concept Theater.’ I am sure putting added stress in his life.
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The other, larger-scope transit of interest is Uranus opposite his natal Mercury-Neptune. I imagine this refers to a larger range of shifts in his life but, in terms of this particular event, the words that come to mind are "wake-up call," a sudden surprise that forces one to face reality instead of comfortable illusion.
Makes good common astrological sense.
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On his surgery Demi, I'm not worried about the Mars. After all, he's having surgery. It fits the known conditions.
Exactly, par-excellent symbolism. His surgery will be either on Dec 31 2018 or Jan 2 2019. Will post as soon as I know for sure.
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However, I'm a little uncomfortable about the borderline foreground Sun-Saturn conjunction.
Yes, I will post as soon as I hear from his wife how the surgery goes.
Jim wrote:
His SSR was unusually nice this year. Venus rising, Jupiter on EP.
Yes, he has been very aware of these excellent benefic aspects in his current SSR since his Birthday, and this morning I reminded him again these SSR benefics will prevail for his surgery. :)
Here's a really clean hit: SNQ MC was 1°16' Scorpio for the heart attack, with progressed Saturn 1°53' Scorpio.
Yes, I noticed this SNQ hit but forgot to post under ‘Quotidians’ topic. Interesting food for thought about your insight about the possibilities for the Novienic/Decilium as a valid Sidereal Astrology chart(s). I may test these out in a gambling casino for refined timing at some future date. :)

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Re: Transits for the Day of a Heart Attack for Colleague.Friend

Post by SteveS » Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:48 am

My friend’s by-pass surgery occurred between 7:20 AM-11:30 AM yesterday, everything is fine. Early yesterday evening I get a text from his wife and she said my friend said to tell me:
He does not hurt as bad as when he fell out of that truck.
My friend was referring to the time when he and I worked for the same Theatre company as young adults and he fell out of a large loading truck while we were loading projection equipment. He fell flat on his back slamming his head to the payment and I thought he had killed himself. When you get old as I you can look back on your life and realize the old saying ‘you can count your true close friends on one hand’ is true. :)

I discovered another Sidereal Astrology chart pertinent to his heart attack and surgery, his current Ennead. Note the exact 90 with Moon-Mars, Saturn in the immediate foreground partile 90 his Natal Sun. I have noticed in my study of Sidereal Astrology-- partile 0,90,180 aspects with Ennead Moon offer solid symbolic meanings for the 40 day ennead period.

Friend’s current Dec 22 Ennead:
https://imgur.com/a/MC8WdRh

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Post by Jim Eshelman » Thu Jan 03, 2019 9:20 am

Yes, it's a crisis aspect. Also. Saturn is on IC.
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