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Co-aspects - interpretation resource

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue May 09, 2017 1:30 pm

The interpretations below are characteristic of the specific effect we usually see when each aspect appears between two people's natal charts. Most of these produce highly distinctive, easily-recognizable effects. All co-aspect interpretations were rewritten the last week of 2021 unless they have an earlier date marking last update.

They could be supplemented by two other sets of interpretations on this site. First, each of these also acts much like a two-directioned transit, so a Sun-Neptune interchange (for example) will feel like Sun transiting natal Neptune to one person and Neptune transiting natal Sun to the other person. Also, to a limited extent, each individual and the pair as a whole (to the extent they think of themselves as an actual pair) will take on a quality resembling having the same natal aspect (e.g., each of them, and the two of them together, starts acting like they have a natal Sun-Neptune aspect). Perhaps one day new co-aspect interpretations will be written that include these extra shadings. Meanwhile, you can consult the transit and natal aspect sections of the forum to supplement what is given below.

Moon co-aspects: viewtopic.php?f=27&t=244#p1634
Sun co-aspects: viewtopic.php?f=27&t=244#p1635
Mercury co-aspects: viewtopic.php?f=27&t=244#p1636
Venus co-aspects: viewtopic.php?f=27&t=244#p1637
Mars co-aspects: viewtopic.php?f=27&t=244#p1638
Outer Planet co-aspects: viewtopic.php?f=27&t=244#p1639

Here are co-aspect summary principles.

Moon-Angle Powerful attraction, sense of family. Protection, service, support.
Moon-Moon Simpatico, attunement, subconscious pattern aligned, psyches mutually open.
Moon-Sun Union (marriage), attraction, desire, fertility. Opposites fulfilling each other.
Moon-Mercury Intellect intertwined with subconsciousness. Easy communication, mutual curiosity.
Moon-Venus Love instinct, attraction, affection, tenderness, sexual surrender.
Moon-Mars Roused instincts, surging desire, turbulent passions. Festering discord, irritation.
Moon-Jupiter Friendship. Kind, caretaking, honoring, uplifting, loyal.
Moon-Saturn Favors practical over personal. Parent-child themes. Distance, sadness, hardship.
Moon-Uranus Emotional renewal, discovery, excitement. Rapidly changing conditions.
Moon-Neptune Disorienting, uncertain, flustered, baffled, confused. Embracing madness.
Moon-Pluto Enigmatic, inscrutable. Drawn to a common flame. Anomalous, defiant.

Sun-Angle Eye-catching, admiring, desiring. Heroic ideal, strength, dominance, destiny.
Sun-Sun Facing matched identities. Mutual recognition and understanding or ego conflict.
Sun-Mercury Communication, collaboration, motivated expression, mentorship.
Sun-Venus Friendship, companionship, admiration, veneration. Trusted advisor, mentor.
Sun-Mars Tumescing attention fuels ego. Physical, combative, call to action, heroic ideal.
Sun-Jupiter Respect, generosity, blessings, shared success.
Sun-Saturn Labor, struggle, mutual need. Ego-wounds.
Sun-Uranus Renewal, adventure, excitement, exploration. Electrical attraction.
Sun-Neptune Fantasy or ideal. Enchantment yet uncertainty. Indulging temptation.
Sun-Pluto Turning point, catalyzing change. Great impact.

Mercury-Angle Ensuring avenues of expression. Encouraging youthful promise. Common curiosities.
Mercury-Mercury Two minds aligned, shared curiosities, intellectual basis to relationship.
Mercury-Venus Sharing affection through mental engagement.
Mercury-Mars Mental aggression, passionate engagement, argument, criticism.
Mercury-Jupiter Admiring, respecting, promoting, endorsing, and encouraging ideas, words, abilities.
Mercury-Saturn Impeded communication, poor listening, disrespect; or critical, corrective discipline.
Mercury-Uranus Discovery, surprise, new experiences, eye-opening possibilities.
Mercury-Neptune Misunderstanding verbal communication (needs an alternative medium). Possible deception.
Mercury-Pluto Things difficult to discuss. Making the unthinkable likely.

Venus-Angle Adoration, love, friendship, trust, pleasure.
Venus-Venus Warm, pleasant, friendly (not passionate). Similar tastes.
Venus-Mars Passion, sex attraction, chemistry. Affection + aggression.
Venus-Jupiter Love with friendship. Happiness, generosity, mutual kindness.
Venus-Saturn Limited happiness. Work pleasure. Devotion, sacrifice. Parent dynamics. Lost love.
Venus-Uranus Creative partnership. Renewal, rejuvenation. Flexible, loves fun, experimental.
Venus-Neptune Romance, pleasure fantasy. Strong emotions. Longing to be enchanted.
Venus-Pluto Initial intensity yet arm's length or flitting. Distance from connection.

Mars-Angle Great physical energy or aggression. Sex, hard work or play, attack.
Mars-Mars Collegial, productive, expending great energy, fighting in common cause
Mars-Jupiter Powerful partnerships. Energy, confidence, enthusiasm. Sexual excellence.
Mars-Saturn Industrious, laborious. Power struggles, resistance, conflict. Debt, shame, regret.
Mars-Uranus Electrical excitement. Sexually carefree. Needs space, adventure; takes risks.
Mars-Neptune Fantasies, promises, and possibilities ignite. Excitement, stirred passions.
Mars-Pluto Enormous release of energy. Sex, work, stress, rage, individuality, disobedience.

Jupiter-Angle Friendship, respect, laughter. Kindness, generosity. Mutual benefit, prospering.
Saturn-Angle Work: pragmatic, purposeful. Personal connection limited, more distant, curtailed.
Uranus-Angle Exciting, riveting, unleashing, opportunistic. Instant, electrical attraction.
Neptune-Angle Instinctive rapport. Mutually drawn together. Amorphous, little definition.
Pluto-Angle Major impact or catalyst, drawing into a larger world. Dramatic endings.
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Moon co-aspects

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MOON-ANGLE
PRINCIPLE: Powerful attraction, sense of family. Protection, service, support.
A powerful attraction aspect common for marriage. Angle feels protective toward Moon, acts in service to Moon, supporting Moon's purposes, looks after or takes care of Moon, often with a feeling of family connection.
[STATS: An aspects Jung found common among married couples.]
Examples: Truman Capote & Harper Lee, Karl Mark & Frederich Engels, Karen & Richard Carpenter, Paul & Linda McCartney, Elvis Presley & Col. Tom Parker, Sandra Dee & Bobby Darin, Gerald & Charlene Gallego, Myra Hindley & Ian Brady, Bobby Brown & Whitney Houston [both ways], Queen Consort Caroline & King George IV, Richard Alpert & Timothy Leary, Allen Ginsberg & Timothy Leary, Barack Obama & Joe Biden, Paul McCartney & George Martin, JAE & Donald Bradley, JAE & Gary Duncan, Dad & JAE

MOON-MOON
PRINCIPLE: Simpatico, attunement, subconscious pattern aligned, psyches mutually open.
Strong mutual attraction and feeling comfortably "at home" with each other, broadly in tune, responding to the tone of the world similarly, and sharing like-minded interests (simpatico). Their psyches are open to each other. Empathy comes easily. Their subconscious patterns more easily align. Especially when young, we tend to herd with those with whom we have Moon-Moon connections. Though not particularly common for marriage, it is nonetheless a pleasing, connecting aspect.
Examples: Marjorie Cameron & Jack Parsons, Edward Kelley & John Dee, Paul & Linda McCartney, George H.W. & Barbara Bush, Julio & Ernest Gallo, John Lennon & George Harrison, John Lennon & Ringo Starr, Ringo Starr & Paul McCartney, (Ringo Starr & George Harrison), JAE & AKK

MOON-SUN
PRINCIPLE: Union (marriage), attraction, desire, fertility. Opposites fulfilling each other.
This classic, archetypal aspect of union is a most common, positive interchange for marriages and many other close connections. Moon-Sun signals powerful attraction and desire: It gives a sense of each completing the other. The interchange's dynamics match historic patterns of male-female marriage in the west, though we likely will see it adapt and find new expression as relationship customs evolve. Sun and Moon are historic symbols of male and female, respectively; their aspect tends to show Moon especially in service and support to Sun's purposes in the world, while Sun illuminates, invigorates, and (literally or metaphorically) impregnates Moon; and there is clear leaning of Sun to be dominant and leading in the relationship - Sun is the "top" - though with no innate sense that either party finds it unbalanced. (Inequity of power needs to be considered as an area to address consciously.)
[STATS: An aspect Jung found common among married couples.]
Examples: Truman Capote & Harper Lee, Michael Douglas & Catherine Zeta-Jones [both ways], Louis XVI & Marie Antoinette, Max & Foss Heindel, Col. Tom Parker & Elvis Presley, Elvis & Priscilla Presley, Edward Kelley & John Dee, Israel Regardie & Aleister Crowley, George Martin & John Lennon, George Martin & George Harrison, JAE & AKK, JEM & JAE

MOON-MERCURY
PRINCIPLE: Intellect intertwined with subconsciousness. Easy communication, mutual curiosity.
Communication flows easily and abundantly between them - they could sit and talk for hours. Often one cannot tell where one mind leaves off and the other begins. Moon is a fount of new information for Mercury, which engages their mutual curiosities and fuels shared inquiries.
Examples: Donald Bradley & Llewellyn George, Ian Brady & Myra Hindley, Joe Biden & Barack Obama, John Lennon & Paul McCartney, Gary Duncan & JAE, Donald Bradley & Gary Duncan

MOON-VENUS
PRINCIPLE: Love instinct, attraction, affection, tenderness, sexual surrender
Deep mutual attraction, affection, and tenderness flow freely. Classically the aspect of lovers and heart-warming romance, Moon-Venus also marks longstanding friendship. Its most evident feature is how comfortable, at ease, and "at home" each feels around the other. Simple fun and shared pleasure come easily. Sexually, each surrenders to the other's touch, caress, and embrace. Any separation will most likely be a gentle fade-away, not a split.
Examples: Harper Lee & Truman Capote, Linda & Paul McCartney, Louis XVI & Marie Antoinette, Steve Wozniak & Steve Jobs, Barbara & George H.W. Bush, Ernest & Julio Gallo, George Martin & John Lennon, JAE & JEM

MOON-MARS
PRINCIPLE: Roused instincts, surging desire, turbulent passions. Festering discord, irritation.
Enflamed emotions. Sexual attraction is fierce and usually satisfying all around. Moon's surging desire often leads, but Mars needs only a nudge. If each Moon aspects the other Mars, it is hard for them to be alone in the same room and keep their hands off and their clothes on. Passions (which may include tempers) run hot: By teasing, taunting, or even infuriating provocation, each seeks to rouse response from the other, which need not be a nice response; therefore, irritation, argument, and other forms of festering discord may result, especially when the concupiscent needs are unsated. Conflict usually appears slowly, though: Moon-Mars may long pass for deepest love, especially in the young. Disputes are likely in nonsexual relationships that aren't capable of the same sustained roused passion; other expressions must be found for the turbulent Mars energies: Some relationships are competitive, some combat somebody else, and some, perhaps, need to be avoided. (Common for sexual relationships including marriage.)
[STATS: An aspect Jung found common among married couples. Notice how it is effectively the defining interchange of the Beatles!]
Examples: Steve Allen & Jayne Meadows, Michael Douglas & Catherine Zeta-Jones, George H.W. & Barbara Bush, Israel Regardie & Aleister Crowley, John Lennon & Paul McCartney [both ways], John Lennon & Ringo Starr, George Harrison & Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr & Paul McCartney, George Harrison & Ringo Starr, RC Firebrace & Cyril Fagan, Matthew Quellas & JAE

MOON-JUPITER
PRINCIPLE: Friendship. Kind, caretaking, honoring, uplifting, loyal.
Loyal, appreciative, persisting friendships. Each looks out for the other's well-being. Jupiter extends welcoming hospitality and shows diverse kindnesses. In many cases, Moon literally ensures Jupiter is fed. Jupiter takes steps to see that Moon is sufficiently honored, even uplifted; Moon apprecatively ensures that Jupiter is seen by others in the best light.
Examples: Harper Lee & Truman Capote, Llewellyn George & Donald Bradley, Joe Biden & Barack Obama, Cyril Fagan & RC Firebrace, Allen Ginsberg & Timothy Leary [both ways], (Richard Alpert & Timothy Leary), George Harrison & George Martin, (George Martin & John Lennon), (Ringo Starr & George Martin)JAE & Peggy Lance, Mom & Dad, JAE & Mom, (JAE & Matthew Quellas), JAE & JEM, JAE & MS

MOON-SATURN
PRINCIPLE: Favors practical over personal. Parent-child themes. Distance, sadness, hardship.
Favors the practical over the personal. Business collaborations can flourish; personal matters fare worse; and mixing them rarely works. Nor is Moon-Saturn conducive to prolonged domestic happiness. Parent-child themes structure the relationship (including passive-aggressive and resistant tactics). Saturn has most of the power and eventually brings the "no" that limits the relationship: Despite warmth and attraction, Saturn is removed, indifferent, may be unavailable, living at a great distance, or only interested in casual contact. Enduring, loyal connection is possible but not ensured. Negative expressions include wounded pride, threatened security, distrust, depression, and loss.
Examples: Karl Mark & Frederich Engels, Gerald & Charlene Gallego [both ways], (Whitney Houston & Bobby Brown), Sandra Dee & Bobby Darin, Donald Bradley & Llewellyn George, Edward Kelley & John Dee, Aleister Crowley & Israel Regardie, Gary Duncan & JAE, Gary Duncan & Donald Bradley, RC Firebrace & JAE, JAE & AKK

MOON-URANUS
PRINCIPLE: Emotional renewal, discovery, excitement. Rapidly changing conditions.
Intellectual excitement lights up this never-dull relationship: They share an abundance of new, exciting ideas. The relationship, which may have begun quick as a lighting flash, likely will change one or both of their lives significantly. Emotional tensions may magnify other differences, though these pairings usually have surprising durability.
Examples: Karl Mark & Frederich Engels, Michael Douglas & Catherine Zeta-Jones, Steve Wozniak & Steve Jobs [both ways], (Sandra Dee & Bobby Darin), Barack Obama & Joe Biden, George Martin & Paul McCartney, George Martin & George Harrison, JAE & Mom

MOON-NEPTUNE
PRINCIPLE: Disorienting, uncertain, flustered, baffled, confused. Embracing madness.
These relationships seem crazy - sometimes literally crazy and obsessive. Most often, they are harmless while mad, disorienting, and uncertain. Neptune is rarely sure where he or she stands (or correctly discerns it as "nowhere"). Either can become flustered, baffled, or confused by the other, uncomfortably babbling and mortified, not knowing what to say or make of things; or may simply embrace the amorphous madness as the sanest path. Secrecy or deception may become part of a seduction, or airs and mystery central to their life together.
[NOTE: The most deeply shaming sexual experience of my life was with someone where each of us had Moon exactly opposite the other's Neptune.]
Examples: Harper Lee & Truman Capote, Charlene & Gerald Gallego, Louis XVI & Marie Antoinette, Vincent & Theo Van Gogh, Nicole & OJ Simpson, Matthew Quellas & JAE

MOON-PLUTO
PRINCIPLE: Enigmatic, inscrutable. Drawn to a common flame. Anomalous, defiant.
Few people outside of this enigmatic relationship understand it. Moon and Pluto are drawn together like moths to a common flame with an edge of danger in the wind. If they form a couple, they march together to their own drummer, defying other people's rules and expectations. In fact, their pairing may serve as a break-away relationship to help them separate from existing conditions and others' control. Despite these few, epic, inscrutable relationships, most Moon-Pluto sexual encounters are one-off hit-and-run events.
[STATS: Many examples populate my notebooks of this aspect in marriage relationships with the husband's Pluto aspecting the wife's Moon.]
Examples: Gerald & Charlene Gallego, Foss & Max Heindel, Sandra Dee & Bobby Darin, John Dee & Queen Elizabeth I, Aleister Crowley & Israel Regardie, John Lennon & Paul McCartney, John Lennon & George Harrison, John Lennon & Ringo Starr, Ringo Starr & Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr & George Harrison [both ways], JAE & MS
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Sun co-aspects

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SUN-ANGLE
PRINCIPLE: Eye-catching, admiring, desiring. Heroic ideal, strength, dominance, destiny.
Sun "lights up the room" for angle, appearing brilliant, shining, and eye-catching. Angle admires, and often also desires, Sun, feeling "I want that!" as if suddenly awakened to destiny. Angle is impressed by Sun (who may fulfill a heroic ideal) and sees Sun as a figure of authority and strength on whom Angle can rely; therefore, Angle automatically cedes dominance. (This is a strong attraction element in the charts of marriage partners.)
[STATS: An aspect Jung found common among married couples.]
Examples: Karl Mark & Frederich Engels, Louis XVI & Marie Antoinette, Foss & Max Heindel [both ways], Allen Ginsberg & Timothy Leary, Joe Biden & Barack Obama, Sandra Dee & Bobby Darin, Paul McCartney & Ringo Starr, Paul McCartney & George Martin, Dad & Mom, (MS & JAE), Phyllis Seckler & JAE

SUN-SUN
PRINCIPLE: Facing matched identities. Mutual recognition and understanding or ego conflict.
Common for marriage and, especially, business partners, particularly those who largely share their outward-facing identity. Each person's identity takes up similar psychological space in the relationship. Positive results include an instinct for recognizing and understanding the other. Negative results arise when this is not acceptable, e.g., ego clashes or both trying to assert dominance. An ability to compromise (without pride being bruised) is essential.
Examples: Steve Allen & Jayne Meadows, Michael Douglas & Catherine Zeta-Jones, Gerald & Charlene Gallego, Bobby Brown & Whitney Houston, Llewellyn George & Donald Bradley, Sigmund Freud & Carl Jung, (George H.W. & Barbara Bush), Julio & Ernest Gallo, John Lennon & Ringo Starr, George Martin & Ringo Starr, (John Lennon & George Martin)

SUN-MERCURY
PRINCIPLE: Communication, collaboration, motivated expression, mentorship.
Communication is the dominant theme. Collaboration (purposeful planning) is common. Sun impels Mercury to thought and self-expression, ignites Mercury to pursue what they want to do, oversees Mercury's training, or otherwise adopts a mentor role.
Examples: Truman Capote & Harper Lee, Marjorie Cameron & Jack Parsons, Frederich Engels & Karl Mark, Steve Allen & Jayne Meadows [both ways], George Harrison & Ringo Starr, Gary Duncan & JAE, Cyril Fagan & RC Firebrace, JAE & Mom, Grace & Robert

SUN-VENUS
PRINCIPLE: Friendship, companionship, admiration, veneration. Trusted advisor, mentor.
Solid, open, deep friendship, companionship, and camaraderie. Venus admires (loves, venerates) and honestly likes Sun, who reciprocates this flattering affection and often serves as Venus' trusted advisor. It's an excellent aspect for "taking under the wing" mentorship by Sun. Uncommon for sexual attraction or marriage.
Examples: Rosalynn & Jimmy Carter, Timothy Leary & Allen Ginsberg, George Harrison & John Lennon, Paul McCartney & George Harrison, Paul McCartney & Ringo Starr, Donald Bradley & JAE, RC Firebrace & JAE, Matthew Quellas & JAE, Dad & Mom

SUN-MARS
PRINCIPLE: Tumescing attention fuels ego. Physical, combative, call to action, heroic ideal.
Strongly physical, competitive. Common among married couples, especially as "battle buddies" or teammates. Mars eggs Sun to action, to "get on with it." Mars is inflamed with desire by Sun's presence, seeing great promise in Sun to support and rally. This tumescing attention naturally fuels Sun's ego. For this reason, the interchange is also common among good friends (comrades and pals), with Mars pushing Sun to match the heroic ideal. Negatively, it can be combative (in which case Sun usually wins).
[STATS: An aspect Jung found common among married couples.]
Examples: Marjorie Cameron & Jack Parsons, Michael Douglas & Catherine Zeta-Jones, Rosalynn & Jimmy Carter, Harry Thaw & Stanford White, (Bobby Brown & Whitney Houston), Donald Bradley & Llewellyn George, Elvis & Priscilla Presley, Timothy Leary & Richard Alpert, Barack Obama & Joe Biden, George Harrison & George Martin, (JAE & Grandmother)

SUN-JUPITER
PRINCIPLE: Respect, generosity, blessings, shared success.
A blessed co-aspect. The two people are likely to be quite successful together! Each (almost unthinkingly) looks out for the other and seeks to improve the other's situation. They respect each other and are mutually generous with time, attention, and other resources. Among marriage partners, this aspect generally means large families - or at least the wish for them.
Examples: Warren Buffet & Charlie Munger [both ways], Jack Parsons & Marjorie Cameron, John Dee & Edward Kelley, Linda & Paul McCartney, Steve Jobs & Steve Wozniak, Donald Bradley & Llewellyn George, Ian Brady & Myra Hindley [both ways], Barbara & George H.W. Bush, Allen Ginsberg & Timothy Leary, John Lennon & George Harrison, Ringo Starr & George Harrison, George Martin & George Harrison, Dad & JAE, Grace & Robert

SUN-SATURN
PRINCIPLE: Labor, struggle, mutual need. Ego-wounds.
Difficult but productive. Common for marriage or business partners who, if there is commitment, work hard and weather hardship together as it comes. Mutual need binds them. Both may struggle with feelings of discouragement, disappointment, and feeling under-appreciated (life is tough!). Sun eventually feels small (reduced) in Saturn's presence. In a dance of darkness and light, Saturn may drive Sun (controlling, structuring, demanding). Saturn supports and uplifts Sun but only on Saturn's terms, often seeing Sun as a resource to be shaped for Saturn's benefit, vacillating between treating Sun as a "golden one" to be nurtured and disrespecting Sun, minimizing Sun's importance. (Longevity of the relationship is not ensured: They must find commitment from other dynamics or conditions.)
[NOTE: I have several cases on file where this aspect showed some form of business arrangement as a basis of a sexual relationship (but, interestingly, no examples of outright prostitution). For example: one "arranged" marriage; a case where someone was promoting a minor celebrity and sleeping with him; another where two people were training partners in a sex surrogate professional training; another where a sex partner was provided as a courtesy during a business trip. In most of these examples there was genuine affection along with the 'convenience' or 'arrangement.']
Examples: Charlene & Gerald Gallego, Steve Wozniak & Steve Jobs, Bobby Brown & Whitney Houston, Max & Foss Heindel, Vincent & Theo Van Gogh, Sandra Dee & Bobby Darin, George Harrison & Paul McCartney, Paul McCartney & Ringo Starr, JAE & Gary Duncan, Donald Bradley & Gary Duncan, MMD & CC

SUN-URANUS
PRINCIPLE: Renewal, adventure, excitement, exploration. Electrical attraction.
Sun finds Uranus exciting and riveting, one of the most interesting people ever met. Often an instant, electrical attraction strikes. The relationship, which somehow feels always new and never boring, thrives especially on exploring new things together (which may include travel). They have much fun together exploring shared interests.
Examples: Michael Douglas & Catherine Zeta-Jones, Sigmund Freud & Carl Jung, Joe Biden & Barack Obama, John Lennon & Paul McCartney, John Lennon & George Harrison, JAE & Gary Duncan, JAE & RC Firebrace, RC Firebrace & Cyril Fagan, Dad & Mom, Dad & JAE, JAE & MMD

SUN-NEPTUNE
PRINCIPLE: Fantasy or ideal. Enchantment yet uncertainty. Indulging temptation.
Sun catches Neptune's fancy (or the enchantment is reciprocal). There is uneasiness; Neptune may baffle Sun; the encounter somehow makes no sense. Therefore, it works best if it does not have to make sense. In romance or sex, each finds the other to be a temptation appropriate to indulge in as if ordering desert. (Temporary conditions may provide the "appropriateness.") In non-conjugal situations, Sun nonetheless ignites some unspoken fantasy in Neptune. Many close, mutually enraptured couples have this interchange.
Examples: Marjorie Cameron & Jack Parsons, Catherine Zeta-Jones & Michael Douglas, Paul & Linda McCartney, Marie Antoinette & Louis XVI, Rosalynn & Jimmy Carter, Elvis Presley & Col. Tom Parker, Paul McCartney & John Lennon, Cyril Fagan & RC Firebrace, Grace & Robert

SUN-PLUTO
PRINCIPLE: Turning point, catalyzing change. Great impact.
Sun's arrival marks a turning point in Pluto's life (whether recognized as such at the time or only seen in hindsight). They have great impact on each other. In particular, Pluto's presence catalyzes changes in Sun, often without active intent. Sun often resists this unanticipated effect and simply leaves, never to return; but in other cases, Sun embraces the transformation and stays. In any case, Pluto is aloof, perhaps enigmatic, withdrawn in privacy even when present.
Examples: Stanford White & Harry Thaw, Jack Parsons & Marjorie Cameron, Steve Allen & Jayne Meadows, Donald Bradley & Llewellyn George, Carl Jung & Sigmund Freud, Myra Hindley & Ian Brady, John Dee & Queen Elizabeth I, Israel Regardie & Aleister Crowley, John Lennon & George Martin, George Martin & Ringo Starr, Donald Bradley & JAE, RC Firebrace & JAE, Matthew Quellas & JAE, JAE & AKK
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Mercury co-aspects

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MERCURY-ANGLE
PRINCIPLE: Ensuring avenues of expression. Encouraging youthful promise. Common curiosities.
Angle ensures that Mercury's speech, writing, or plans have a chance of expression by providing setting, means, or encouragement. Angle is enormously curious what Mercury thinks or will next say and wants to hear it (and for the world to hear it). In many cases, Angle sees youthful promise in a new voice with fresh ideas, gives them a platform, and acts as a private advisor. Mercury happily finds in Angle someone with common curiosities with whom to communicate (often intimately) or even collaborate.
Examples: Karen & Richard Carpenter, Louis XVI & Marie Antoinette, Donald Bradley & Llewellyn George, (Myra Hindley & Ian Brady), George H.W. & Barbara Bush [both ways], Aleister Crowley & Israel Regardie, Allen Ginsberg & Timothy Leary, George Harrison & John Lennon, George Martin & Paul McCartney, JAE & RC Firebrace, RC Firebrace & Cyril Fagan, JAE & Dad, JAE & Mom, JAE & AKK, JAE & MMD

MERCURY-MERCURY
PRINCIPLE: Two minds aligned, shared curiosities, intellectual basis to relationship.
Two minds are aligned with shared curiosities and interests. Communication flows well, ideas pass easily between them. The relationship usually has a specific intellectual, educational, or advisory basis: Even emotionally intimate relationships have a quality of co-workers or lab partners.
Examples: Marjorie Cameron & Jack Parsons, Steve Allen & Jayne Meadows, Louis XVI & Marie Antoinette, John Dee & Queen Elizabeth I, Israel Regardie & Aleister Crowley, George Martin & Ringo Starr, (Ringo Starr & George Harrison), Grace & Robert

MERCURY-VENUS
PRINCIPLE: Sharing affection through mental engagement.
Mental engagement is their way of sharing affection. Easy conversation, often light and recreational. Venus adds polish to Mercury (whose mind Venus finds adorable) or finds other ways to make Mercury "look good."
Examples: Truman Capote & Harper Lee, Elvis Presley & Col. Tom Parker, Julio & Ernest Gallo, Elvis & Priscilla Presley, King George IV & Queen Consort Caroline, John Dee & Edward Kelley, Matthew Quellas & JAE, JAE & MMD [both ways]

MERCURY-MARS
PRINCIPLE: Mental aggression, passionate engagement, argument, criticism.
Requires keen engagement (at least willingness), stirring easy, candid, flowing conversation spiced by banter, ribbing, jesting. Otherwise, the relationship fails somehow, e.g., becomes openly contentious or one leaves. Argument and criticism in both constructive and destructive senses: At best, comrades at arms, critical and corrective, usefully finding flaws in each other's ideas. At worst, they contentiously find fault and tear at each other. Mars resists input or contribution from Mercury (sometimes with warrior-like determination). One may attack the other not only verbally but also physically. Few creative collaborations: usually, one handles practical affairs while the other is openly creative. The intense mutual need to engage stirs intimacy and often fosters a powerful sexual connection.
Examples: Marjorie Cameron & Jack Parsons, Col. Tom Parker & Elvis Presley, Ernest & Julio Gallo, OJ & Nicole Simpson, JAE & Dad, JEM & JAE

MERCURY-JUPITER
PRINCIPLE: Admiring, respecting, promoting, endorsing, and encouraging ideas, words, abilities.
Jupiter is predisposed to hear what Mercury has to say in the best possible way, admiring and respecting Mercury's words, abilities, and creations. Jupiter supports or promotes Mercury however possible depending on the type of their relationship, e.g., by sponsorship, endorsement, bringing business to Mercury, or, more personally, by encouragement, praise, and enthusiasm.
Examples: Paul & Linda McCartney, Queen Consort Caroline & King George IV, Vincent & Theo Van Gogh, Aleister Crowley & Israel Regardie, Allen Ginsberg & Timothy Leary, John Lennon & Ringo Starr, George Harrison & Ringo Starr, Donald Bradley & JAE, MS & JAE, Grace & Robert

MERCURY-SATURN
PRINCIPLE: Impeded communication, poor listening, disrespect; or critical, corrective discipline.
Communication (especially emotional communication) goes poorly. In the worst cases, Saturn's ears are closed to Mercury's ideas or hears them in the worst light, often shutting them out ("I don't want to hear any more of that!") and demonstrating little respect. In the best cases, Saturn is critical and corrective of Mercury's thoughts and mental processes, providing drill and discipline. Saturn's poor listening often makes Mercury hesitant to share thoughts or feelings. Misunderstanding, awkwardness, and (in more extreme cases) distrust can result.
Examples: Catherine Zeta-Jones & Michael Douglas, Nicole & OJ Simpson, John Dee & Edward Kelley, Israel Regardie & Aleister Crowley, Timothy Leary & Allen Ginsberg, JAE & Mom, JAE & Dad [+ Mars], JAE & Donald Bradley

MERCURY-URANUS
PRINCIPLE: Discovery, surprise, new experiences, eye-opening possibilities.
Uranus opens Mercury to new experiences, novel ideas, and eye-opening possibilities. Mercury usually is fascinated by Uranus, open to and eager for almost anything Uranus suggests. Captivating possibilities can be almost any type, including new ideas, business opportunities, travel adventures, romance, entertainment, or more.
Examples: Karl Mark & Frederich Engels, Elvis Presley & Col. Tom Parker, King George IV & Queen Consort Caroline, Israel Regardie & Aleister Crowley, Sandra Dee & Bobby Darin, Donald Bradley & JAE, MS & JAE

MERCURY-NEPTUNE
PRINCIPLE: Misunderstanding verbal communication (needs an alternative medium). Possible deception.
Misunderstanding, miscues, and missed clues are likely if verbal communication is their sole language. Words often fail to have the same meaning for both of them. Another channel of intercourse (empathy, music, vision, sensuality, sex, a private language) is needed for each to feel clearly understood. They are sensitized to pick up on more subtle clues from each other (if they will). Mercury anchors the side of reason while stirring the unreasonable in Neptune. Rarely is hard science or logic what draws or holds them together. Possible deception. Many such pairs are collaborators investigating psychic phenomena or strange states of perception.
Examples: Marjorie Cameron & Jack Parsons, Foss & Max Heindel, Timothy Leary & Allen Ginsberg, John Lennon & Ringo Starr, JAE & MMD, MS & JAE

MERCURY-PLUTO
PRINCIPLE: Things difficult to discuss. Making the unthinkable likely.
Most with this interchange fail to connect, remain silent around each other, or have sparse communication across a distance. However, those who close this gap can explore strange, wonderful, outlier ideas together, particularly on topics difficult to discuss with others. "Difficult to discuss" is the central theme; the rest depends on whether (and how long) they bridge the difficulty. Curiosity intensifies. Pluto's ideas shake Mercury's thinking, unlocking unconventional thoughts and making the unthinkable seem likely. Distance grows as their shared passion fades, or disrupting events alienate and break off communication. What once seemed a lifelong connection times out.
Examples: Harper Lee & Truman Capote, (Steve Jobs & Steve Wozniak), Nicole & OJ Simpson, Paul McCartney & John Lennon, Ringo Starr & George Harrison, George Martin & George Harrison, Matthew Quellas & JAE
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VENUS-ANGLE
PRINCIPLE: Adoration, love, friendship, trust, pleasure.
Venus adores Angle. Love, friendship, and trust are immediate, moving, and deep (especially with Venus on the horizon). They easily share pleasure, fun, and good feelings. Venus will do anything for Angle. Even friendships last long. Arguably the most powerful and important aspect of connection, this is also the most common interchange for marriage.
[STATS: The most common co-aspect between charts of married couples in Jung's study.]
Examples: Marjorie Cameron & Jack Parsons, Karen & Richard Carpenter, Michael Douglas & Catherine Zeta-Jones, Paul & Linda McCartney, Gerald & Charlene Gallego [both ways], Bobby Brown & Whitney Houston, Joe Biden & Barack Obama, (Queen Elizabeth I & John Dee), George Harrison & Paul McCartney, Paul McCartney & George Martin, George Harrison & Ringo Starr, Donald Bradley & Gary Duncan, Mom & Dad, Matthew Quellas & JAE, JAE & JEM, JAE & MMD

VENUS-VENUS
PRINCIPLE: Warm, pleasant, friendly (not passionate). Similar tastes.
Warm, pleasant, friendly, though not passionate. (Other aspects may bring that.) Possible playmates, usually enjoying similar people and things or sharing aesthetic tastes (depending on Venus' sign placements). Few married couples sport this pairing; it's a surprisingly minor interchange.
Examples: Marjorie Cameron & Jack Parsons, Steve Wozniak & Steve Jobs, George Martin & Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr & George Harrison, JAE & VC

VENUS-MARS
PRINCIPLE: Passion, sex attraction, chemistry. Affection + aggression.
A passionate, sensuous, sexy aspect - not much more and rarely less. Sexual attraction is enormous; usually, a good time is had by all. Venus commonly issues the invitation, actively wanting Mars physically, though interest is reciprocal. Even non-sexual relationships have chemistry and often closeness, though they need a shared passion to thrive. Frisky antics or shared horseplay come naturally.
Examples: Charlene & Gerald Gallego, George H.W. & Barbara Bush, George Harrison & John Lennon, John Lennon & George Martin, (Ringo Starr & John Lennon), Mom & Dad, JAE & MMD, JAE & MS [both ways]

VENUS-JUPITER
PRINCIPLE: Love with friendship. Happiness, generosity, mutual kindness.
A happy connection founded on generosity and mutual kindness. Favoring warmth, appreciation, and love with friendship, it adds stability (and sometimes many children) to a marriage. They simply like each other and can work gracefully and cooperatively as partners in a shared undertaking (excellent for coworkers). Gift-giving and hospitality are common.
Examples: Truman Capote & Harper Lee, Karen & Richard Carpenter, Louis XVI & Marie Antoinette, (Steve Wozniak & Steve Jobs), Foss & Max Heindel, Sigmund Freud & Carl Jung, George H.W. & Barbara Bush, Timothy Leary & Allen Ginsberg, Richard Alpert & Timothy Leary, John Lennon & George Harrison, George Harrison & Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr & Paul McCartney, Dad & Mom, AKK & JAE, MS & JAE, JAE & MMD, JAE & Phyllis Seckler

VENUS-SATURN
PRINCIPLE: Limited happiness. Work pleasure. Devotion, sacrifice. Parent dynamics. Lost love.
Work relationships thrive better than emotional ones. Saturn limits Venus' happiness or pleasure. Work (including creative partnerships) can prosper, work itself giving pleasure. Or Venus may sacrifice happiness from devotion, duty, or service, as in caretaking Saturn. Though rarely close for intimate relationships, it brings commitment and perseverance that may secure happiness. Parent-child dynamics commonly play out; sometimes actual parents are involved. It may signify unrequited or lost love or friendship, which leaves a long, sad shadow on one or both lives. Venus especially may feel alone, excluded, or neglected. Saturn may resist closeness or find perverse pleasure in its own inadequacies, refusing solace or intimacy.
Examples: Truman Capote & Harper Lee, Karen & Richard Carpenter, Myra Hindley & Ian Brady, John Lennon & Paul McCartney, John Lennon & George Harrison, (Paul McCartney & George Martin), Mom & JAE, JAE & Grandmother, JAE & RC Firebrace, Matthew Quellas & JAE

VENUS-URANUS
PRINCIPLE: Creative partnership. Renewal, rejuvenation. Flexible, loves fun, experimental.
Electrical and fresh, this relationship approaches friendship, love, sex, play, and other pleasure on its own terms, creatively and flexibly. In fact, the two may forge a creative partnership in whatever interests they share. Uranus brings renewal, rejuvenation, and excitement to Venus, especially in love and pleasure. Venus sees Uranus as outside the norm and far more interesting than all the rest. Both feel fun loving and experimental, perhaps flirtatious and a little wicked, and surely ready to ignore social convention and what others think of them. (Stretching social boundaries may cause tension and emotional strain or force domestic rearrangement.)
Examples: Steve Wozniak & Steve Jobs, John Lennon & Paul McCartney, George Martin & Ringo Starr, AKK & JAE, MS & JAE, Robert & Grace

VENUS-NEPTUNE
PRINCIPLE: Romance, pleasure fantasy. Strong emotions. Longing to be enchanted.
An aspect of romance and fantasy. Emotions run strong. Venus embodies Neptune's pleasure fantasies. Each indulges in the other, longing to be enchanted. Even non-sexual relationships seem like romance (or "bromance") as idealized friendships. Typically, the relationship is wrapped in a backstory (mingling fact and fiction) that invites frequently revisiting the past. Either can fluster or embarrass the other (friendly or hostile depending on the overall mix of the charts). Venus-Neptune adds a shared willingness to overlook "the little stuff" to ease rough edges of a mostly sound relationship. If things sour, they still tend to return to each other even when they "know better."
Examples: Harry Thaw & Stanford White, Truman Capote & Harper Lee, Jimmy & Rosalynn Carter, Myra Hindley & Ian Brady, Sandra Dee & Bobby Darin, Nicole & OJ Simpson, George Harrison & John Lennon, Ringo Starr & Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr & George Harrison, Joe Biden & Barack Obama, (Donald Bradley & Gary Duncan), MS & JAE [both ways

VENUS-PLUTO
PRINCIPLE: Initial intensity yet arm's length or flitting. Distance from connection.
Initial intensity can be impactful, making this seem an important relationship - at least, for a short while. However, these connections usually feel arm's length emotionally and rarely last long or seem important in hindsight. Without high-chemistry aspects, these two may miss connecting with each other altogether.
Examples: Priscilla & Elvis Presley, John Dee & Edward Kelley, JAE & VC
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Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue May 09, 2017 1:32 pm

MARS-ANGLE
PRINCIPLE: Great physical energy or aggression. Sex, hard work or play, attack.
Together, they expend great physical energy, usually as open physical aggression taking many forms: sex, hard work or play, Mars physically attacking Angle, or the two attacking someone else. Mars drives Angle hard. Some pairs eventually develop bitter antipathy (most do not). Angle may respond to Mars' strength and virility, stirring intense admiration or arousal. Mars liberally unleashes sex force with Angle, usually as a wholly physical act that ignites a comparable response.
Examples: Harper Lee & Truman Capote, Karl Marks & Frederich Engels, Charlene & Gerald Gallego, Elvis & Priscilla Presley, Queen Consort Caroline & King George IV, OJ & Nicole Simpson, Edward Kelley & John Dee, George Harrison & John Lennon, Barack Obama & Joe Biden, Dad & Mom, JAE & Dad, JAE & AKK

MARS-MARS
PRINCIPLE: Collegial, productive, expending great energy, fighting in common cause
Colleagues, teammates, and productive partnerships: They bear down hard to get the job done, working in common cause (sports, combat, shared enterprise), expending great energy together (often physical labor). The aspect is more collegial than connubial, uncommon for sexual connections but serviceable for physical release as needed. Rarely antagonistic, it more commonly shows energies aligned. Though competition, ego-challenges, dominance, and other machismo rituals are compatible with the aspect, such relationships are likely too divisive to stick - perhaps explaining their rarity.
Examples: Harper Lee & Truman Capote [partile conj.], Charlene & Gerald Gallego, Rosalynn & Jimmy Carter, Foss & Max Heindel, Steve Wozniak & Steve Jobs, Ringo Starr & Paul McCartney, Donald Bradley & Gary Duncan, Matthew Quellas & JAE, JAE & Grandmother

MARS-JUPITER
PRINCIPLE: Powerful partnerships. Energy, confidence, enthusiasm. Sexual excellence.
Powerful partnerships with energy, confidence, enthusiasm and competitive advantage. In particular, Jupiter enhances Mars' confidence in Mars' strength and physical excellence (for sports, war, business), and may directly improve Mars' capabilities. In sex, they are lusty and immoderate: Jupiter exalts and celebrates Mars' sexual vigor and encourages bold aggression; Mars fuels Jupiter's enjoyment of life. (It seems so easy between them.) - With other afflictions to Jupiter, Mars may cost Jupiter money or other resources, though usually the two grow stronger together, not weaker.
Examples: Truman Capote & Harper Lee, Rosalynn & Jimmy Carter, Whitney Houston & Bobby Brown, Julio & Ernest Gallo, John Lennon & Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr & George Martin, (Paul McCartney & George Martin), JAE & Donald Bradley, Cyril Fagan & RC Firebrace

MARS-SATURN
PRINCIPLE: Industrious, laborious. Power struggles, resistance, conflict. Ddebt, shame, regret.
Though present for positive, constructive relationships, this aspect is most common in struggling, conflicted relationships and those that cause discomfort, conflict, or damage around them or end with regrets. Industrious work-based collaborations have the best chance of thriving; personal, intimate relationships suffer most. Even positive relationships have uneven power distribution (power struggles, conflict of wills). Necessary efforts to set this aright stir conflict. Saturn undercuts Mars' strength and confidence, acting as the "no," resisting and frustrating Mars' efforts to demand and push. Fierce sexual energy (which may feel forbidden, dangerous, defiant, or brutish). The survivor may feel a posthumous duty or debt: The relationship is prone to incompletions, withheld communication, and even shame that one must live with or confront.
[NOTE: Regarding a very important personal relationship where we had a partile Mars-Saturn square: As I've seen in other Mars-Saturn interchanges, there was no shortage of sexual energy, but all seem to have a bit of the forbidden, dangerous, or defiant (even brutish) about them. Despite good intentions and good skills, over the years there was an increased element of inequality. Communication withholds increased in a misguided effort to avoid unhappiness and conflict; these hurt the relationship. Perhaps most importantly, when we weren't fighting with each other, our conjoint presence often caused conflict around us and stirred people to discomfort and upset - probably because, if we were denying that expression ourselves, then it was going to find another avenue to express itself in our lives. Advice: For best effect, one must keep communication utterly clean and open despite short-term costs; be sensitive to the fact that there is a tendency for both to hurt, both to force their way through it, and one or both to come out of it thinking you "didn't get your due." Maybe find something to fight against or fight for as a team.]
Examples: Truman Capote & Harper Lee, Frederich Engels & Karl Mark, Bobby Brown & Whitney Houston, Sandra Dee & Bobby Darin, Ian Brady & Myra Hindley, (Theo & Vincent Van Gogh), Israel Regardie & Aleister Crowley, Allen Ginsberg & Timothy Leary, George Martin & Paul McCartney, George Martin & George Harrison, RC Firebrace & JAE, Dad & Mom, Dad & JAE, Erin & JAE, JAE & MS

MARS-URANUS
PRINCIPLE: Electrical excitement. Sexually carefree. Needs space, adventure; takes risks.
These relationships flourish best when both have plenty of independent space for matters that interest them and their own initiatives. Given that, expect electrical excitement while they last (whether briefly or for a lifetime). Too much restriction by either party makes them unworkable, perhaps intolerable. Sex (often unexpected at first) satisfies best when carefree, enthusiastic, uncommitted, adventurous. Mars especially excites Uranus and makes possible (has the means for) what Uranus wants most (whether in career, adventure, or orgasms). Both are emboldened to take risks and experiment.
Examples: Rosalynn & Jimmy Carter, Myra Hindley & Ian Brady, Israel Regardie & Aleister Crowley, Sandra Dee & Bobby Darin, George Martin & Paul McCartney, George Martin & George Harrison, (JAE & Gary Duncan), JAE & RC Firebrace

MARS-NEPTUNE
PRINCIPLE: Fantasies, promises, and possibilities ignite. Excitement, stirred passions.
Neptune tempts Mars to indulge fantasies with passion. Mars sets Neptune's heart aflutter with previously undreamt possibilities, or Neptune is enamored with Mars' promise. Excitement, stirred passion, and magnetic attraction ignite. If the relationship ends, Neptune is more vulnerable to wounding based on unfulfilled possibilities; yet, extraordinary, positive relationships (romantic or collaborative) also have this aspect, bringing great energy to shared dreams. Promises are dangled more by their chemistry or the setting than by the participants, so there may be promises unfulfilled but rarely promises broken.
[NOTE: In theory, this interchange could be deeply hurting, humiliating, threatening, and filled with fear. One might expect betrayals, disloyalty, and dishonesty. Yet, at least in ordinary cases, it doesn't work out that way. Imagination is enflamed (erotically or otherwise) and future possibilities dangled (often sincerely). There may be regrets, but no more than any other relationship; in fact, usually there are fewer. If Neptune carries an aftermath wound, it is nearly always unintentional.]
Examples: Karen & Richard Carpenter, Catherine Zeta-Jones & Michael Douglas, Jimmy & Rosalynn Carter, Steve Wozniak & Steve Jobs, Carl Jung & Sigmund Freud, Ernest & Julio Gallo, (Joe Biden & Barack Obama), (Queen Elizabeth I & John Dee) JAE & VC

MARS-PLUTO
PRINCIPLE: Enormous release of energy. Sex, work, stress, rage, individuality, disobedience.
Foremost, this requires enormous release of energy, especially physically. Potent feral energies build and need frequent (often explosive) discharge. Sexual relationships provide opportunities to "keep the peace" with explosions of a mutually satisfying kind. Others dive into driven, physically demanding work (with accumulating pressures that may need an escape route). Anger can rage if the force is not otherwise discharged. Mars refuses subservience to Pluto, usually quietly but as overt disobedience if necessary. Both need to chart their own course free of others' expectations and control. Only the most extreme cases are violent, brutal, and destructive.
NOTE: Remarkable teams in the music industry probably arise from physical demands, high stress, enormous creative energies, and perhaps a rebel spirit.
Examples: Israel Regardie & Aleister Crowley, Richard & Karen Carpenter, Paul & Linda McCartney, Paul McCartney & John Lennon, Ringo Starr & John Lennon, Ringo Starr & Paul McCartney [both ways], Ringo Starr & George Harrison, Edward Kelley & John Dee, JAE & Dad, JAE & Mom, JAE & Gary Duncan, MMD & JAE [both ways]
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Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue May 09, 2017 1:32 pm

JUPITER-ANGLE
PRINCIPLE: Friendship, respect, laughter. Kindness, generosity. Mutual benefit, prospering.
These two prosper together. Business alliances are common (to mutual benefit). Especially, Jupiter is kind, generous, or hospitable to Angle to a significant respect, improving the quality of Angle's life and endeavors (or it is reciprocal). Friendship, respect, laughter, and good times together come easily. Even after difficulties, they preserve thinking well of each other.
Examples: Harper Lee & Truman Capote, Frederich Engels & Karl Mark, Karen & Richard Carpenter, Linda & Paul McCartney, Louis XVI & Marie Antoinette, Aleister Crowley & Israel Regardie, Julio & Ernest Gallo, Nicole & OJ Simpson, John Dee & Queen Elizabeth I, John Lennon & George Harrison, Ringo Starr & George Harrison, George Martin & George Harrison, RC Firebrace & JAE, Cyril Fagan & RC Firebrace, JAE & Dad, (JEM & JAE), JAE & AKK, JAE & MS, Robert & Grace

SATURN-ANGLE
PRINCIPLE: Work: pragmatic, purposeful. Personal connection limited, more distant, curtailed.
Mutual work or a practical purpose (a shared task) thrives best; personal connection ultimately exists to serve that. Even intimate relationships are ultimately pragmatic, lasting only as long as they remain serviceable. Saturn draws a line or keeps distance; consequently, even when the relationship is mutually valued, it will fall short of what it might have been. Eventual wandering apart is common.
Examples: Truman Capote & Harper Lee [both ways], Steve Wozniak & Steve Jobs, Carl Jung & Sigmund Freud, King George IV & Queen Consort Caroline, (Aleister Crowley & Israel Regardie), John Lennon & George Harrison, Ringo Starr & George Harrison, JAE & RC Firebrace, Dad & JAE, JAE & Mom, JAE & AKK, JAE & VC

URANUS-ANGLE
PRINCIPLE: Exciting, riveting, unleashing, opportunistic. Instant, electrical attraction.
Each finds the other exciting and riveting. Uranus opens new paths and opportunities for Angle. Often an instant, electrical attraction strikes (and rarely wears off): especially, Angle is most taken with Uranus. Romantically, even when long-term connection grows, longevity probably was not on Uranus' mind when starting. Rather, one of them (usually Uranus) moves on an opportunity or change of circumstances for the excitement. Each feels somehow unleashed.
Examples: Marjorie Cameron & Jack Parsons, Marie Antoinette & Louis XVI, Priscilla & Elvis Presley [both ways], Nicole & OJ Simpson, John Dee & Edward Kelley, Aleister Crowley & Israel Regardie [both ways], Allen Ginsberg & Timothy Leary, George Martin & Paul McCartney, George Martin & Ringo Starr [both ways], Donald Bradley & JAE, Mom & Dad, JAE & Dad, JAE & AKK, JAE & MS, Grace & Robert

NEPTUNE-ANGLE
PRINCIPLE: Instinctive rapport. Mutually drawn together. Amorphous, little definition.
A positive contact favoring excellent long-term friendships, partnerings, and collaborations. Instinctive rapport, mutually drawn (flowing) together. Even troubled pairings often persist once formed ("I can't quit you"). Professional connections often are in Neptunian fields such as music, creative arts, acting, or occultism. Romantic relationships (whether close or casual) have surprisingly little definition or certainty: Neptune often has little clarity on where things stand, few clear defining labels or boundaries, and uncertainty that definitions are a constant.
Examples: Harper Lee & Truman Capote, Steve Allen & Jayne Meadows, Catherine Zeta-Jones & Michael Douglas, Linda & Paul McCartney, Bobby Brown & Whitney Houston, Donald Bradley & Llewellyn George, Foss & Max Heindel, Theo & Vincent Van Gogh, John Dee & Edward Kelley, Queen Elizabeth I & John Dee, John Lennon & Paul McCartney, John Lennon & Ringo Starr, Ringo Starr & Paul McCartney [both ways], RC Firebrace & Cyril Fagan, Matthew Quellas & JAE, JAE & Dad, JAE & AKK, JAE & VC

PLUTO-ANGLE
PRINCIPLE: Major impact or catalyst, drawing into a larger world. Dramatic endings.
Pluto makes a major (perhaps life-altering) impact on Angle, either a brief blow or as a long-term catalyst. (Most of these relationships are flitting. A few exceptional ones are not.) Unless brief, these relationships have similar effect through dramatic endings, as by separation, alienation, or an unusually poignant death. Angle often draws Pluto from obscurity into a larger world. Pluto, as an outsider, may upset Angle's apple cart in unexpected ways.
Examples: Karen & Richard Carpenter, Marie Antoinette & Louis XVI, Sigmund Freud & Carl Jung [both ways], Col. Tom Parker & Elvis Presley, Elvis & Priscilla Presley, Nicole & OJ Simpson, Edward Kelley & John Dee [both ways], Mom & Dad, Grandmother & JAE, JAE & JEM
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Re: Co-aspects - interpretation resource

Post by Lance » Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:11 am

Is there a reason that the outer planets co-aspects are limited to discussion of the angles?

For example, there's no listing for Saturn conjunct Pluto.

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Re: Co-aspects - interpretation resource

Post by Jim Eshelman » Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:26 am

Lance wrote:
Fri Apr 20, 2018 8:11 am
Is there a reason that the outer planets co-aspects are limited to discussion of the angles?

For example, there's no listing for Saturn conjunct Pluto.
Yes: I didn't want to feed the idea that those are planet-to-planet aspects are of any importance in chart comparisons.

You can, though, use transit interpretations if such an aspect is partile (as part of an overall assessment of such transits).
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Re: Co-aspects - interpretation resource

Post by Danica » Sat Sep 15, 2018 10:46 pm

An observation on Mercury-Mars interchange (dynamic aspects): Mercury's words 'fire up' Mars, inspire him to action, touching the core of Mars person's need for/mode of physical self-expression.
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Re: Co-aspects - interpretation resource

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:29 am

Danica wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 10:46 pm
An observation on Mercury-Mars interchange (dynamic aspects): Mercury's words 'fire up' Mars, inspire him to action, touching the core of Mars person's need for/mode of physical self-expression.
Thanks. I've added your note above for reference (and for whenever I get around to doing the top-to-bottom rewrite of these that they need).

Now I'm looking to see if I can confirm this from personal experience. I have 13 people I know well who have Mercury within 4° of conjunction or opposition or 3° of square to 28°55' Sagittarius (my Mars position). One or (in a certain way) two of them had the kind of impact on me you mention - they were both lovers who had a keen way to penetrate right into me with a phrase. For the other 11, though, I can't think of a single occasion like this that survives in memory. With about two-thirds of them, communication was often directly contentions, or occurred in a contentious context, or was a bit of ongoing verbal swordplay (or, in one case, just that we've always had unusually candid, personal communications).

There are at least a couple where there is a different variant than you mention - maybe off track, but I'll record it here while I'm noticing it. It's that my ongoing role was to cut through their wordplay incisively - cut past their defensive verbal {bs} - which sometimes led to them staying in my life and sometimes to them departing. (Not just disputing ideas: Specifically cutting through an entanglement of ideas by which they were painting themselves into a tidy little universe.)


Flipping this around, I have 17 people (including you) with Mars within the same orbs of 17°21' Libra, my Mercury position. Looking for the specific effect you cite, I can't confirm it in a single case. In fact, what stands out most is how resistant half these people are to any input or contribution from me. (One was my father, with whom I had a very argumentative relationship growing up, and, especially, he didn't want to hear any of the highfalutin intellectual things out of me because none of it was practical; and later in life, when things had calmed down, he still seemed impenetrable to anything serious or authentic I said. Another is my sister, the poorest relationship in my family. Several other examples of people resisting contribution from me, one of whom ironically tried to steal the greatest thing I've built in my life and managed just to do damage to it for a while. Several aggravatingly contentious relationships, and two or three marked simply by honest, forthright communication.) The biggest, most consistent factor here is the resistance most of them have for being contributed to, and their tendency to warrior-like protect it as if what made their world make most sense depended on it.

There are two, though (the two former lovers in the list) that, for reasons that never made full sense to me, I mostly cut off communication with. (Objectively, I'd say there is no clear reason for me to have done so. Straining to analyze myself on it at this moment, I notice that one of the relationships especially and the other one mostly were examples of easy, candid communication at all points. I didn't really "cut off" communication, though that's how it pops up in my head, but rather backed away without explanation from the possibility of continuing or renewing it later. I suspect I'm resisting just how deep and easy - how intimate - the communication would get immediately and, of course, by now a little ashamed at having ignored them so long.)


After writing and looking at all the above, I think I would now say that this aspect in my life has always "required" easy, candid, honest, flowing communication - which makes the relationship quite intimate - and when either or both aren't up to that the relationships have failed in various ways, either by one leaving, or by being openly contentious, or by the parties "settling" for a much lesser relationship. It needs to be engaged, or willingness to engage.
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Re: Co-aspects - interpretation resource

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sat Dec 25, 2021 10:11 pm

Jim Eshelman wrote:
Thu Dec 23, 2021 6:58 pm
Over the last week, I've rewritten all the Sun interchanges extensively, many of them from the bottom up. I've made numerous changes (marked with dates) in other entries and have added examples to more or less everything (mostly from the "Synastry Examples of the Famous" forum, but then adding several personal examples to help me in the rewrites).

I'll gradually work through rewriting all the others.
I've now finished all the Moon aspects. With Sun and Moon aspects both done, the most important of these are newly available. (I'll continue to work on the others.)

This feels like a significant path of discovery. In basic ways, the root meanings of the co-aspects remains as it was thought to be; though, in some significant ways there are differences. Nearly all the interpretations feel completely new to me, as if I didn't know any of this before.
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Re: Co-aspects - interpretation resource

Post by Jim Eshelman » Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:56 pm

The rewrite is complete. I've reworked all of these interpretations - the first significant rewrite of this synastry material since the 1970s. I've also added brief "principle" summaries on the initial post and above each interpretation. (Using these on sample charts in recent weeks, I find they're much better - standing on their own - than I expected.)

A majority of these interpretations had the correct core idea all along, though they all needed extensive rewrite. A few brought big surprises and completely turned my head around.

While over 90% of why people want to do synastry is for sex and marriage, I found that gathering a solid base of non-sexual, non-marriage pairs made it easier to see a wider range of human response. These have served the rewrite very well, I think. (I have used famous and private examples, the majority of which are not listed on these pages.)

Hopefully they will prove interesting and useful to you.
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Re: Co-aspects - interpretation resource

Post by oraculosastrology » Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:46 am

Greetings Jim! I absolutely admire your work and would love to get in contact with you about Sidereal Astrology! Please let me know what's the best way to go about making this happen! Sincerely, MB

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Re: Co-aspects - interpretation resource

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Jan 04, 2022 6:57 am

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Greetings Jim! I absolutely admire your work and would love to get in contact with you about Sidereal Astrology! Please let me know what's the best way to go about making this happen! Sincerely, MB
Thank you for the kind words :).

I watch private messages on the board as little as possible but I'll go purge what's accumulated to make room for a new one so you can get me a note about what's this about. I try to keep most communication here and open.

BTW, your site https://www.oraculosastrology.com/ looks interesting, Mychal.
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Re: Co-aspects - interpretation resource

Post by Danica » Wed Jan 05, 2022 1:13 am

Re Mars- Uranus:
After reading the new formulation of the interpretation for it above, the Kepler-Brache duo came to mind (i.e. Brache having the means for manifestation of Kepler's desires/work-passion-pursuits), but I haven't bothered to actually check the synastry, until now: lo and behold, they verily have it: Brache's Mars sq Kepler's Uranus 2*40' !! Then, while I was at it, it just came to mind to see if perhaps Crowley and Regardie have it: there it is! Regardie's Mars opp Crowley's Uranus 2*20'!
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Re: Co-aspects - interpretation resource

Post by Jim Eshelman » Wed Jan 05, 2022 7:29 am

Danica wrote:
Wed Jan 05, 2022 1:13 am
Re Mars- Uranus:
After reading the new formulation of the interpretation for it above, the Kepler-Brache duo came to mind (i.e. Brache having the means for manifestation of Kepler's desires/work-passion-pursuits), but I haven't bothered to actually check the synastry, until now: lo and behold, they verily have it: Brache's Mars sq Kepler's Uranus 2*40' !! Then, while I was at it, it just came to mind to see if perhaps Crowley and Regardie have it: there it is! Regardie's Mars opp Crowley's Uranus 2*20'!
You have to give those Mars-Uranus protégées some free rein, eh? <g> The relationship that first alerted me to this, though, and got me going down that path was Bobby Darin and Sandra Dee.

Crowley-Regardie is quite interesting for many reasons. I'll start another thread on their synastry. Don't miss how stunningly similar it is to the connections between Dee and Kelley!

Thanks.
Jim Eshelman
www.jeshelman.com

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