Neptune in Pisces

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Neptune in Pisces

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:50 pm

In 2022, Neptune enters Pisces. It's time to start looking at what this has meant historically. Here are dates in recent centuries that Neptune has been in Pisces.

This is an important transit. It addresses the question of whether, as we suspect, Neptune rules Pisces i.e., has similar symbolism. It also, therefore, gives another way to reassess what we think we know about Neptune in general.

Mar 24 1034 to Sep 1 1034
Jan 24 1035 to May 29 1047
Aug 21 1047 to Mar 23 1048
Nov 25 1048 to Jan 5 1049

Mar 8 1199 to Sep 27 1199
Jan 6 1200 to May 6 1212
Sep 17 1212 to Mar 7 1213

Apr 28 1363 to Jul 26 1363
Feb 22 1364 to Nov 1 1364
Dec 5 1364 to Apr 20 1377
Oct 11 1377 to Feb 19 1378

Apr 7 1528 to Aug 20 1528
Feb 7 1529 to Jun 26 1541
Jul 28 1541 to Apr 5 1542
Nov 5 1542 to Jan 31 1543

Apr 3 1693 to Sep 20 1693
Feb 3 1694 to Jun 6 1706
Sep 13 1706 to Apr 3 1707

Mar 23 1858 to Oct 14 1858
Jan 20 1859 to May 22 1871
Oct 5 1871 to Mar 22 1872

May 20 2022 to Aug 6 2022
Mar 14 2023 to Nov 10 2023
Dec 31 2023 to May 9 2036
Oct 25 2036 to Mar 11 2037
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Re: Neptune in Pisces

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Apr 25, 2021 6:36 pm

I will start gathering some historic notes on these periods, using the dates below, as time permits. I'm not looking for small stuff (given a 14-year passage), but for big themes, so I hope I don't overlook some nuances. Feel free to contribute.

Mar 23 1858 to Oct 14 1858
Jan 20 1859 to May 22 1871
Oct 5 1871 to Mar 22 1872


This is the onramp to Lincoln's election, and thus pushing the slavery issue to bursting as we headed into and through the Civil War and then the start of reconstruction. Not much is evident during the brief dip-in in 1858.

1859: Ground is broken for the Suez Canal. The Austro-Sardinian War (not very important, slight border changes). The British Empire is being built with securing new levels of control in India and Australia. New gold and mineral rushes in Colorado and Utah, an oil rush in western Pennsylvania. John Brown tries (unsuccessfully) to spark a slave rebellion in Harper's Ferry, VA: Robert E. Lee's troops overpower him (he was hanged). Darwin's On the Origin of Species was published.

1860: Kingdom of Italy formed, annexes Tuscany, opens a Parliament. Garibaldi leads his soldiers in many campaigns to unify Italy, conquers Sicily, crosses over and takes Naples. Pony Express begins to run. One of the worst storms ever hit England's east coast sinking over 100 ships. There seems to be a new era of exploration (resembling the Piscean explorers of the 16th-17th centuries). Abraham Lincoln elected President, South Carolina secedes.

1861: U.S. Civil War: Further states secede, Confederate States of America is formed, Pres. Jefferson Davis is inaugurated (weeks before Lincoln), open combat begins at Fort Sumter, the opposing sides continue to polarize, open warfare increases. (Kansas is admitted as a free state.) Lincoln is inaugurated. Battles toward Italian unification continue, the Kingdom of Italy is proclaimed by the new Parliament. Czar Alexander II outlawed serfdom.

1862: Civil War continues. Emancipation Proclamation issued. Les Miserables by Victor Hugo published. Lincoln creates (what is later named) the Department of Agriculture. Lincoln signed the Homestead Act. Bureau of Internal Revenue established. Lincoln signs law authorizing construction of the First Transcontinental Railroad. Dakota War begins in Minnesota, expanding into the Sioux War.

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Re: Neptune in Pisces

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Apr 25, 2021 7:02 pm

I'm jumping back to years where not as much fills the history books - to see if the big themes are more obvious.

Mar 24 1034 to Sep 1 1034
Jan 24 1035 to May 29 1047
Aug 21 1047 to Mar 23 1048
Nov 25 1048 to Jan 5 1049


1034: Byzantine Emperor Romanos III is drowned at his wife's order: She marries the chamberlain and names him Emperor. Other conspiracies (figuratively back-stabbing) seem to be rearranging Europe's leadership.

1040: King Duncan I is killed in battle with his cousin Macbeth, who then becomes King of Scotland. Through this whole period there is a lot of Byzantine vs. Europe battling and territorial exchanges over a few years.

1042: Byzantine Emperor Michael V Kalaphates' mother tries to poison him, he banishes her, the people revolt against him as sole ruler. The mother and her sister are then proclaimed empress, Michael flees to a monastery but is arrested, blinded, and castrated. Much more family drama continues through the year and makes me long for the family calm of Macbeth.

1043: Byzantine family drama continues plus various wars and engagements with Arabs and Italians. - Another plotting mother appears when Edward the Confessor is crowned king of England and learns his mother (Queen of Normandy) is plotting to seize the English throne. (He strips her lands and treasure.)

1045: Lots of drama with shuffling Popes around. Movable type printing is invented in China.

1046: Important Chinese writings focus on corruption in government (centered on the throne). This seems a big theme around the world, happening with the pope and alleged in various kingdoms.

The Pope shuffling continues for years, and seems to wrap up as the transit wraps up. I lost track of how many times Benedict IX became Pope during these few years.
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Re: Neptune in Pisces

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sun Jan 09, 2022 3:55 pm

Mar 8 1199 to Sep 27 1199
Jan 6 1200 to May 6 1212
Sep 17 1212 to Mar 7 1213


1199: A war between England and France had become brutal, evoking warnings that neither cities for dwelling or highways for travel are safe. Three weeks after Neptune entered Pisces, King Richard the Lionheart is wounded assailing a French castle and soon dies of gangrene, leaving the throne to King John. The sign-change, for England, is the transition from Richard to John. Other important monarchy hand-offs occur in Marrakesh and Japan. In the summer, Pope Innocent III calls for a fourth Crusade.

1200: The Fourth Crusade starts warming up. England and France (John and Philip) sign a peace treaty (that lasts a couple of years). John starts consolidating power by acquiring fealties. Similarly, Genghis Khan "manages to unite about half the feuding Mongol clans under his leadership."

1201: The fourth Crusade is still building (alliances, ships bult, acquiring provisions, other preparations).

1202: Crusaders convene in Venice (about a third the number expected) and starts (by various paths) toward the Holy Land.

1203: Fourth Crusade dominated the year, including the first successful siege of Constantinople (the main measurable outcome of the Crusade). Meanwhile, King John is driven out of Normandy.

1204: Fourth Crusade continues. Aftermath consequences of the siege of Constantinople.

1205: The usual power fluctuations (that always occur) center for a while on the Byzantine Empire instability. King Philip II in France is on a roll conquering regions now recognized as France. King John mobilizes all English males over 12 to a large defense force.

1206: The Latin Empire has been growing - formed by Crusaders by land captured from the Byzantines - and now crowns its second emperor (in Constantinople). Genghis Khan finishes organizing all Mongol chiefs under his sole leadership. England and France move toward war in the Aquitaine.

1207: Mostly, more of the same. King John introduces the first income tax (it's successful in raising revenue, though unpopular). Conflicts between John and the Pope about who is the new archbishop.

1208: Albigensian Crusade started against the Cathars in Languedoc; it lasted 20 years. Numerous battles and power shuffles around Europe (the usual; or more?).

1209: Mostly a continuation. King John is ex-communicated by the Pope over the archbishop conflict. Black Monday in Dublin when 500 settles recently arrived from Bristol and celebrating Easter Monday outside the fortified city are massacred by O'Byrne clan warriors. - Mongols led by Genghis Khan launch their first invasion (of a nearby Chinese state). Franciscan Order is bounded by Francis of Assisi. (It's characteristics might be important to this transit: Members cannot own any possessions at all, wander and preach among the people, help the poor and sick, beg for food but forbidden to accept money for work or as alms.)

1210: Mostly continues the same.

1211: Genghis Khan's conquest spreads within China. Many other things continue from prior yers. Albigensian Crusade heats up.

1212: [partial: Note the Great Fire of London happened when Neptune tipped into Aries for the summer] Crusades continue through Greece [spreading into the Neptune in Aries time].

1213: [partial: After Neptune enters Aries, King John submits to the Pope] Albigensian Crusade continues. Genghis Khan conquest of China continues. Pope puts out a call for a Fifth Crusade to retake Jerusalem.
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Re: Neptune in Pisces

Post by Jim Eshelman » Sat Jan 15, 2022 3:23 pm

Jim Eshelman wrote:
Sun Jan 09, 2022 3:55 pm
Apr 28 1363 to Jul 26 1363
Feb 22 1364 to Nov 1 1364
Dec 5 1364 to Apr 20 1377
Oct 11 1377 to Feb 19 1378

Apr 7 1528 to Aug 20 1528
Feb 7 1529 to Jun 26 1541
Jul 28 1541 to Apr 5 1542
Nov 5 1542 to Jan 31 1543

Apr 3 1693 to Sep 20 1693
Feb 3 1694 to Jun 6 1706
Sep 13 1706 to Apr 3 1707
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