2022 NFL SEASON

Developing & testing the application of Sidereal Mundane Astrology to Picking Winners in sports competitions.
Post Reply
SteveS
Nabu
Posts: 5436
Joined: Mon May 08, 2017 5:11 am
Gender:

2022 NFL SEASON

Post by SteveS » Tue Aug 09, 2022 6:11 am

Only IF the Arizona Cardinals (Phoenix) make the 2023 NFL Playoffs, I will be looking to make high % winning bets because of Jupiter partile conjunct Phoenix 2023 Capsolar IC. There should be solid high % winning hedge bets since the Arizona Cardinals are now a + 4000 to win the Super Bowl, but we don't know for sure what the possible betting odds will be until the end of the regular season Jan 8th.

SteveS
Nabu
Posts: 5436
Joined: Mon May 08, 2017 5:11 am
Gender:

Re: 2022 NFL SEASON

Post by SteveS » Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:51 am

There are 32 teams in the NFL. The Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl in 2020 as a pre-season + 1000 (10-1 long shot) to win the Super Bowl. Kansas City Missouri had their 2020 Capsolar Jupiter partile conjunct their Capsolar MC, the only team out of 32 teams in USA to have Capsolar Jupiter partile conjunct a Primary angle with the 32 team’s Capsolars, the Capsolar being the “Master Chart of the Year.”

The Arizona Cardinals (Phoenix) have their 2023 Capsolar Jupiter partile conjunct their IC, the only team in USA out of 32 teams to have a Capsolar Jupiter partile conjunct a Primary angle. The preseason betting odds for the Cardinals to win the 2023 Super Bowl are + 4000 (40-1 long shot). Does this mean the Cardinals win the 2023 Super Bowl? Of course not! But Jim’s statistical analysis for 50 Super Bowls show that angular Jupiter with the stack of Sidereal Mundane Astrology charts prove a higher % for predicting wins.

I will bet 25 $ on the Cardinals to win the 2023 Super Bowl—for a possible 1,000 $ win, a 40-1 long shot. If the Cardinals make the playoffs, with hedge betting, I will be in a position to win $ even if the Cardinals don’t win the Super Bowl. :) This will be a fun entertaining bet using Sidereal Mundane Astrology with the "Masterchart of the Year"--the Capsolar.

SteveS
Nabu
Posts: 5436
Joined: Mon May 08, 2017 5:11 am
Gender:

Re: 2022 NFL SEASON

Post by SteveS » Thu Aug 11, 2022 6:03 am

As I have already pointed out, the only NFL team (32 teams) in America which has 2023 Capsolar Jupiter partile conjunct a Primary Angle (IC) is the Arizona Cardinals (Phoenix). Vegas has the Cardinals a + 4000 to win the Super Bowl. This means if one bet 10 $ on the Cardinals to win the Super Bowl, one wins 400 $. Our conditioned minds tells us NO WAY the Cardinals win the Super Bowl at these astronomical high odds. Since astronomy calculates the angles of a chart, and since some discussion has been happening pertaining to direct midpoints, let’s probe deeper into Phoenix’s 2023 Capsolar, only using direct midpoints involving Phoenix’s 2023 Capsolar angles.

Without having to calculate all the other NFL 31 teams 2023 Capsolars, my mind keeps pondering this glaring question: Are the following direct angular Capsolar midpoints only unique and exists in Phoenix, Arizona using a one & half degree orb or less??? Maybe Mike or Jim would know this answer with their keen astronomical minds, without having to calculate 31 more Capsolars for the other cities. But I will get around to calculating the other 31 Capsolar Cities.

1: ASC/MC = Node (1,02)
Is Phoenix the only NFL City in America which calculates this most important direct midpoint? If so, we definitely have something to think about, because a Cosmobiologist would definitely tell us the Node clearly symbolizes the fan base in Phoenix, Arizona (Node has to do with “alliances”). And Alfred Witte, the originator of the important ASC/MC midpoint would tell us that Phoenix’s Capsolar is a unique locational chart for TIME (MC) & PLACE (ASC) in America pertaining to the Node. In other words, if Phoenix is the only NFL city to calculate this direct midpoint, there is a special unique situation pertaining to the fan base only in Phoenix. Or another way to possibly look at this, there is no other NFL city that has a special unique ASC/MC fan situation pertaining to a possible Super Bowl win or a deep run in the NFL playoffs.
More later….

Veronica
Synetic Member
Synetic Member
Posts: 1858
Joined: Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:37 am
Gender:

Re: 2022 NFL SEASON

Post by Veronica » Thu Aug 11, 2022 7:50 am

so a bet of 1k=40k?

Imagine that! Betting 2 weeks of pay to get a years income! Wow! I can see the allure!

SteveS
Nabu
Posts: 5436
Joined: Mon May 08, 2017 5:11 am
Gender:

Re: 2022 NFL SEASON

Post by SteveS » Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:31 am

V, I am only betting 25 $. And posting as a severe test for angular direct midpoints. The Cardinals will have to at least make the playoffs for the first time in many years. It will be a fun test. :e :)

SteveS
Nabu
Posts: 5436
Joined: Mon May 08, 2017 5:11 am
Gender:

Re: 2022 NFL SEASON

Post by SteveS » Thu Aug 11, 2022 10:36 am

Here are the other direct midpoints involving the angles for Phoenix 2023 Capsolar. For sports cities, I always delineate the following tones centered on the community of people (fans) for the sports cities.
2: Jupiter/MC = Eastpoint (partile):
Quoting Ebertin COSI for Jup/MC = ASC:
Ability to have a happy relationship with those in one’s environment coupled with a harmonious disposition. Pleasant contact with another person, sociable, experiencing joy with others, festivity.
3: Mars/Pluto = MC =Jupiter:
+ Unusual capabilities of advancement in life, self-confidence, ambition. The consciousness of an aim or objective, ability to organize, right use of one’s energy. Attainment of unusual successes, enjoyment of one’s freedom.

IMO, an important key for # 3 is Mars/Pluto for:
Principle: Superhuman power…
The main unanswered question: Are all of the above Capsolar angular direct midpoints calculated only for Phoenix, Arizona and not for the other 31 NFL cities? Only if Arizona makes a deep run in the playoffs will I confirm this answer with the other 31 NFL cities.

SteveS
Nabu
Posts: 5436
Joined: Mon May 08, 2017 5:11 am
Gender:

Re: 2022 NFL SEASON

Post by SteveS » Sat Aug 13, 2022 2:27 pm

I am a Mark Twain disciple. Since I have always been a speculator on many things, my favorite Mark Twain quote is:
It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so.
Actually, Mark Twain above words apply to anything in life is a lot of wisdom applied to our life in general. Especially when us astrologer thinks we know “for sure” what is going to happen in the future with astrological chart aspects. The truth of the matter is---we don’t frigging know anything “for sure” about our future.

But for major sporting events and the collective….

Today, I just discovered an indirect ASC/MC = Node midpoint (90) for a Super Bowl which just so happens to be for the Arizona Cardinals (Phoenix) in the 2009 Super Bowl tied in to a Direct Midpoint of ASC/MC = Uranus for Phoenix. What a coincidence with this thread starting off discussion about the 2022 Phoenic Cardinals. As I have pointed out there is a direct midpoint of ASC/MC = Node for the Phoenix Cardinals if they happen to make it to the 2023 Super Bowl. As we can see this is some validation that in a major sporting contest-- the Node (“alliances”) symbolizes the fans (“alliances”) for a sports team in a major championship game. Did the Cardinals win the 2009 Super Bowl, no, they did not—but they made it to the Super Bowl, and this is key info. But here is the interesting part of this discovery: In the 2009 pre-season—the Cardinals were +3000 to win the Super Bowl. This means if one bet on the Cardinals to win the Super Bowl at + 3000 in 2009, all that needed to happen for the Cardinals was for them to make the playoffs in 2009. Because, if the recreational gambler using hedge betting---they would have won $ no matter how far the Cardinals went into the playoffs. Some astrologers are of the opinion that indirect midpoints are just as potent as direct midpoints, I really don’t know for sure. I only know what the originators and professional cosmobiologist teach about midpoint application.

The above midpoint combo does not offer any Jupiter or Saturn symbolism for a Cardinal win or loss in 2009-- only that in a 1 and half degree section of the Sidereal Zodiac located at Phoenix an ASC/MC = Node (indirect midpoint) was in effect telling us this could have been a key midpoint indicating there was going to be ‘out of the ordinary’ fan interest for the Phoenix Cardinals in the 2009 Super Bowl. I can guarantee you that at a + 3000 to win the 2009 Super Bowl—when the Cardinals happened to make the 2009 NFL playoffs—the fans of Phoenix would be at a fever pitch. But even this does not prove much. What I now have to check when a NFL team makes it to the Super Bowl with an ASC/MC = Node midpoint—is to see if any other of the 30 teams in America had an ASC/MC = Node midpoint for the same Super Bowl year, indicating possible fever pitch fan interest. I need to check this out for the other 30 NFL teams for the 2009 NFL season, and if no other NFL team had an ASC/MC = NODE midpoint---then check the other 31 teams for the 2022 NFL season.

mikestar13
Synetic Member
Synetic Member
Posts: 1559
Joined: Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:13 pm
Gender:

Re: 2022 NFL SEASON

Post by mikestar13 » Tue Aug 16, 2022 9:45 am

Steve, with TMSA this is quite easy. You would create an options file for ingresses which enables the Node and midpoints, in the unlikely event you haven't already. Then calculate the Capsolar for the chosen city. Then with the Ingress page still up enter a different city and recalculate, repeat until you have Capsolars for all 32 teams. If your computer won't choke on 32 instances of notepad running, you can have the all the Capsolars displayed at once.
Time matters

User avatar
Jim Eshelman
Are You Sirius?
Posts: 16566
Joined: Sun May 07, 2017 12:40 pm
Gender:

Re: 2022 NFL SEASON

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:11 pm

On Windows 10, one instance of Notepad takes 1,740 KB of memory. That mans that 32 instances take 54 MB. A computer running Win 10 on less than 8 GB (8,192 MB) is already in trouble, so I think this is a safe bet ;)
Jim Eshelman
www.jeshelman.com

SteveS
Nabu
Posts: 5436
Joined: Mon May 08, 2017 5:11 am
Gender:

Re: 2022 NFL SEASON

Post by SteveS » Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:37 pm

Mike wrote:
Steve, with TMSA this is quite easy. You would create an options file for ingresses which enables the Node and midpoints, in the unlikely event you haven't already. Then calculate the Capsolar for the chosen city. Then with the Ingress page still up enter a different city and recalculate, repeat until you have Capsolars for all 32 teams. If your computer won't choke on 32 instances of notepad running, you can have the all the Capsolars displayed at once.
Mike, I have been thinking about you and TMSA. Yesterday with SF, I calculated all the Capsolars for the 32 NFL teams in the 2022 season, scanning for only the teams which calculated an AS/MC = Node Midpoint, either direct or indirect. This took me app 40 minutes, which was my first time I did this type task. This SF task did make me think of you and TMSA. Can you judge without doing a task like this with TMSA approximately how long it would take with TMSA to do the same task?

BTW, this task calculated only one NFL team which produced an AS/MC = Node 1,02 Direct and it was the Arizona (Phoenix) Cardinals. Of course this means nothing unless the Cardinals make the 2023 playoffs with a hyped fan (Node) base. But still--quite a coincidence from a statistical point of view. :o

Shane
Meteorite Member
Meteorite Member
Posts: 6
Joined: Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:21 am

Re: 2022 NFL SEASON

Post by Shane » Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:24 am

Jim - Will you be able to predict the winner in the season opener between Rams and Bills?

User avatar
Jim Eshelman
Are You Sirius?
Posts: 16566
Joined: Sun May 07, 2017 12:40 pm
Gender:

Re: 2022 NFL SEASON

Post by Jim Eshelman » Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:50 am

Shane wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:24 am
Jim - Will you be able to predict the winner in the season opener between Rams and Bills?
Prediction of big finale games and high-stake championship playoffs is much easier. Remember, it has nothing direct to do with the teams - but with the magnitude of local community psychological involvement. Most games (even openers) aren't even on the minds of the vast majority of people living in an area (although something like "your town being in the Super Bowl" usually enters the awareness of even those folks least interested in sports).

Having said, if you give me the date, place, and approximate expected end time of the game plus the cities of the two teams, I'll do a quick work-up.
Jim Eshelman
www.jeshelman.com

Shane
Meteorite Member
Meteorite Member
Posts: 6
Joined: Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:21 am

Re: 2022 NFL SEASON

Post by Shane » Wed Aug 17, 2022 3:23 pm

Great, thanks!

Date- September 08, 2022
Place- Inglewood, California
Start time- 17:20 PST
Teams- Los Angeles Rams (NFC) vs Buffalo Bills (AFC)

Usualy a game is played for 3 hours and 12 minutes but this can vary considerably. So, the expected end time would be 20:32 PST

User avatar
Jim Eshelman
Are You Sirius?
Posts: 16566
Joined: Sun May 07, 2017 12:40 pm
Gender:

Re: 2022 NFL SEASON

Post by Jim Eshelman » Wed Aug 17, 2022 5:37 pm

I take it you don't mean PST (i.e., that you didn't go to the trouble to calculate backwards to provide a time zone not actually then in use. Going with this assumption, the data would be:
Shane wrote:
Wed Aug 17, 2022 3:23 pm
Game end: September 08, 2022, 8:32 PM PDT. Inglewood, CA

Los Angeles, CA vs. Buffalo, NY
(I assume the Buffalo Bills are in Buffalo, NY. Remember, I stay as far away from sports as I can :) . That's why I ask that you give me the necessary information, so I don't have to go research any of it.

Los Angeles, CA
Year (Capsolar): Moon-Mars-Neptune T-square on angles. Though Jupiter is precisely on Vx, it makes no reasonably-orbed azimuth aspects to the meridian planets. No indication of win or lose other than the broad picture that LA would have a rough year in general (but not specifically this game).
Quarter (Cansolar): Saturn on WP 0°52': LA loses.
CapQ: p MC co s Saturn 1°43'. p Asc sq s Jupiter 1°13', t Venus 0°05'. If this were the Super Bowl, despite two benefics in close aspect on an angle, this would mean that LA loses: One first picks losers, then only picks winners if losers aren't shown. On games of little consequence, this rule hasn't seemed as firm. I still need to call this as LA losing, but the people of LA having a great time.
Transits to Capsolar: t Neptune op s Asc 0°22': By itself, indecisive. Given what it aspects, probably negative, but Neptune can't be trusted as a loss indicator.

Buffalo, NY
Year: Sun on Nadir 0°28', Pluto on Nadir 0°53': Some heroism.
Quarter: Venus on MC 2°15': Since this isn't a major game, it's not guaranteed everyone is already partying, so Venus can be a positive signal. (Jupiter is more widely foreground.)
CapQ: (Silent.)
CanQ: s Saturn on IC 1°33'
Transits to Capsolar: t Pluto sq s Asc 0°48': No indication unless Buffalo is a major underdog.

COMPARISON
Year: No real indication. (A weak win signal for Buffalo)
Quarter: LA Saturn vs. Buffalo Venus. Buffalo wins
CapQ/CanQ: LA Saturn (but with benefics?), Buffalo Saturn: Probably cancels.
Transits to Solar Ingress: No indication
FINAL CONCLUSION: Don't bet on this game. The indications are too mixed. Aside from the fact that I don't at all trust the method for a minor game, each team has clear loss signals.

What I actually think will happen is that Buffalo will have a better season than LA (under the Cansolars). Fore this particular game, the quotidians cancel each other out and we're left with LA having Saturn angular in the Quater chart: LA loses.
Jim Eshelman
www.jeshelman.com

Shane
Meteorite Member
Meteorite Member
Posts: 6
Joined: Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:21 am

Re: 2022 NFL SEASON

Post by Shane » Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:23 pm

Thanks Jim! appreciate it. LA fan here. Hopefully they repeat haha!

SteveS
Nabu
Posts: 5436
Joined: Mon May 08, 2017 5:11 am
Gender:

Re: 2022 NFL SEASON

Post by SteveS » Wed Sep 07, 2022 6:13 am

Jim, don't go to the trouble for posting this game-up. San Francisco vs Chicago 9/11/2022, app end of game 3:30 PM CDT.
I see more acute Saturn symbolism with San Francisco than LA. Do you agree?

User avatar
Jim Eshelman
Are You Sirius?
Posts: 16566
Joined: Sun May 07, 2017 12:40 pm
Gender:

Re: 2022 NFL SEASON

Post by Jim Eshelman » Wed Sep 07, 2022 7:12 am

SteveS wrote:
Wed Sep 07, 2022 6:13 am
Jim, don't go to the trouble for posting this game-up. San Francisco vs Chicago 9/11/2022, app end of game 3:30 PM CDT.
I see more acute Saturn symbolism with San Francisco than LA. Do you agree?
I have to write it somewhere in order to work it up systematically, so I might as well do it here.

San Francisco
Year (Capsolar): Mars-Neptune + Moon angular; Jupiter-Neptune PVP square
Quarter: Saturn-Uranus angular
Day (transits to Capsolar): Sun [If we extend to Cansolar, t Saturn sq MC 42']
Day (CapQ): s Saturn 18'

Chicago
Year: Sun-Pluto (emphasis on Sun)
Quarter: Neptune (bits of Moon and Venus)
Day (transits to Cansolar): Neptune (with Sun op. Cansolar Moon)
Day (CapQ): Sun + Neptune [NOTE: CanQ has s Mars: They fight like hell or are angry, but it's not a game-caller!]

CONCLUSIONS
Year: Favors Chi but not definitive
Quarter: SF loses
Day (transits): Unclear
Day (quotidian): SF loses

FINAL CONCLUSION
San Francisco loses
Jim Eshelman
www.jeshelman.com

SteveS
Nabu
Posts: 5436
Joined: Mon May 08, 2017 5:11 am
Gender:

Re: 2022 NFL SEASON

Post by SteveS » Wed Sep 07, 2022 8:16 am

Thanks Jim, my pick for the week, Chicago Bears + 7.

SteveS
Nabu
Posts: 5436
Joined: Mon May 08, 2017 5:11 am
Gender:

Re: 2022 NFL SEASON

Post by SteveS » Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:50 am

Excellent read Jim on LA losing. Got me even from my last weekend stupid wager. :)

User avatar
Jim Eshelman
Are You Sirius?
Posts: 16566
Joined: Sun May 07, 2017 12:40 pm
Gender:

Re: 2022 NFL SEASON

Post by Jim Eshelman » Fri Sep 09, 2022 6:23 am

SteveS wrote:
Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:50 am
Excellent read Jim on LA losing. Got me even from my last weekend stupid wager. :)
:)
Jim Eshelman
www.jeshelman.com

SteveS
Nabu
Posts: 5436
Joined: Mon May 08, 2017 5:11 am
Gender:

Re: 2022 NFL SEASON

Post by SteveS » Sun Sep 11, 2022 5:39 am

Betting 50 $ on Chicago + 7
Testing to see if my ASC/MC = Me = Jup in my SLR will manifest receiving $ in the mail with:

A 3 team Money Line Parlay for 10 $ which pays 195 $ (19-1) if it hits:

Bears + 225
NE Pats + 160
Dallas + 120

All the above teams have to win for this low risk/high reward wager to pay-off.

Shane
Meteorite Member
Meteorite Member
Posts: 6
Joined: Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:21 am

Re: 2022 NFL SEASON

Post by Shane » Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:58 pm

Jim-

Good call on the Bills game. If possible, what do you think of the game Between LA Rams vs Atlanta Falcons- 9/18/2022, app end of game 4:15 PM PDT. Inglewood, CA.

User avatar
Jim Eshelman
Are You Sirius?
Posts: 16566
Joined: Sun May 07, 2017 12:40 pm
Gender:

Re: 2022 NFL SEASON

Post by Jim Eshelman » Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:45 pm

Shane wrote:
Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:58 pm
Good call on the Bills game. If possible, what do you think of the game Between LA Rams vs Atlanta Falcons- 9/18/2022, app end of game 4:15 PM PDT. Inglewood, CA.
Usual caveats. Here goes:

Year
Los Angeles: Moon-Mars, Mars-Neptune
Atlanta: Sun, Pluto
Conclusion: Neither is decisive unless there is a strongly favored team. In that case, this weights somewhat against the strongly favored team.

Quarter
Los Angeles: Saturn (0°46')
Atlanta: Neptune (Venus)
Conclusion: LA loses [notice this will be the conclusion (based on Quarter indications) in all games until October 18]

Day (Quotidians)
Los Angeles (CapQ): t Mars (0°26')
Atlanta (CapQ): Moon Venus (NOTE: CanQ Saturn doesn't come into play)
Conclusion: Not definitive, but Atlanta fans look happier

Day (Transits)
Los Angeles (to Capsolar): t Neptune (0°33'), t Sun (1°31'), Neptune-Mars (41'), Neptune-Moon (55')
Atlanta: Pluto
Conclusion: No conclusion, though LA feels weak, broodingly unhappy

FINAL CONCLUSION:
Based on the one clear indication - the Cansolar - LA loses.
Jim Eshelman
www.jeshelman.com

Shane
Meteorite Member
Meteorite Member
Posts: 6
Joined: Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:21 am

Re: 2022 NFL SEASON

Post by Shane » Tue Sep 13, 2022 6:27 pm

Thanks Jim!

SteveS
Nabu
Posts: 5436
Joined: Mon May 08, 2017 5:11 am
Gender:

Re: 2022 NFL SEASON

Post by SteveS » Wed Sep 14, 2022 5:15 am

I wrote last week:
… my pick for the week, Chicago Bears + 7.
Bears 19 San Fran 10 Won 50 $ :)
I wrote last week:
Testing to see if my ASC/MC = Me = Jup in my SLR will manifest receiving $ in the mail with: A 3 team Money Line Parlay for 10 $ which pays 195 $ (19-1) if it hits:
This did not hit, loss 10 $ :( I will receive no $ from my book this week.
I am up 40 $ for the season. So far, I see no high % winning bets this week.

Shane
Meteorite Member
Meteorite Member
Posts: 6
Joined: Wed Aug 17, 2022 7:21 am

Re: 2022 NFL SEASON

Post by Shane » Sun Sep 18, 2022 4:57 pm

LA Rams win a close game

SteveS
Nabu
Posts: 5436
Joined: Mon May 08, 2017 5:11 am
Gender:

Re: 2022 NFL SEASON

Post by SteveS » Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:57 am

Betting 20 $ (half my NFL winnings) on Texas AM (College Station) - 2 vs Arkansas (Fayetteville) with my analysis of Sidereal Mundane Astrology. Feb 24, app end of game 10:00 pm CST.

SteveS
Nabu
Posts: 5436
Joined: Mon May 08, 2017 5:11 am
Gender:

Re: 2022 NFL SEASON

Post by SteveS » Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:31 am

In tonight’s NLF game with Pittsburgh vs Cleveland, Pittsburgh has CanQ Saturn partile conjunct its CanQ Nadir, which I see as by far the strongest Sidereal Mundane Astrology indicator as Pittsburgh losing this game. Vegas has Cleveland as a 4.5 point favorite which offers absolutely no betting value. Let’s see if Pittsburgh loses this game.

SteveS
Nabu
Posts: 5436
Joined: Mon May 08, 2017 5:11 am
Gender:

Re: 2022 NFL SEASON

Post by SteveS » Fri Sep 23, 2022 1:42 am

Pittsburgh loses this game.

User avatar
Jim Eshelman
Are You Sirius?
Posts: 16566
Joined: Sun May 07, 2017 12:40 pm
Gender:

Re: 2022 NFL SEASON

Post by Jim Eshelman » Fri Sep 23, 2022 5:10 am

Cool
Jim Eshelman
www.jeshelman.com

SteveS
Nabu
Posts: 5436
Joined: Mon May 08, 2017 5:11 am
Gender:

Re: 2022 NFL SEASON

Post by SteveS » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:13 am

The Pittsburgh vs Cleveland game was a divisional game which carries far more importance than a regular season game. But still--SMA really shines with championship games.

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest