2024 Prez Election

[SteveS]

Across the pond where betting on USA Presidential elections are legal, the latest Aug 10 betting odds for US Prez (link below) has Biden & Trump virtually Even, Biden a slight favorite. I will try to remember and start tracking these betting odds on a monthly basis at the beginning of 2024 calendar year.

https://www.empirestakes.com/ny-sports- ... ction-odds

[SteveS]

Here are the updated 2024 presidential election odds as of the news late on Monday night that former president Trump had been indicted in the state of Georgia, along with 18 others, for efforts to overturn the 2020 election results in that state. The grand jury voted to bring 13 total felony charges against Trump.

Biden + 180
Trump + 250

What is his outlook for his election tampering charges in DC? Not good according to the political futures.
Trump Odds Of Being Found Guilty On One Or More 2020 Election Results
Yes -300
No +220

[SteveS]

Latest 2024 Prez election betting odds:

https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/be ... n-2911743/

Another betting establishment:

https://www.ladbrokes.com.au/sports/pol ... 4ca7b849aa

[SteveS]

Trump widening his wagering lead over Biden but Newsom is making the most wagering noise jumping to + 600 to Trump’s + 137. This indicates to me Biden may drop out of Election 2024, kinda interesting. Jim, are you hearing/reading anything strongly indicating the possibility Biden may be out for Election 2024, since I don’t follow political news?

[Jim Eshelman]

Nothing clear. The main talk this week is recent polls showing Trump and (even more so) Nikki Haley leading Biden in the states thst might tip.

This of course is too early. I'm not going to take seriously anything before February 1 when the Capsolar is settled in.

The real game changer here is whether Trump gets convicted in any of the trials. Polling also shows that Trump's lead on Biden is heavily fed by his being prosecuted, but would be undercut by convictions.

[SteveS]

I am going to try to find betting odds Biden drops out.

[SteveS]

I wrote:

I am going to try to find betting odds Biden drops out.

Can't find any betting odds Biden drops out but found this:

https://www.gambling.com/uk/news/bettin ... cy-2369600

[Jim Eshelman]

Biden's next (2023) SSR has two Neptune angular for Washington and a Moon-Saturn square. This doesn't make for a good year.

The 2024 SSR (a couple of months after the election and - depending on how close things are - perhaps just before the results are known) has transiting Saturn 0°27' from Nadir, two Saturns and two Neptunes angular, and a touch of Jupiter (with Moon conjunct Mars opposite Pluto that is also atop natal Moon). It sounds fatally bad for his health but, in any case, not good for his reelection. (Neptune transits square natal Saturn 0°44' mundo).)

So how about the lunars in between?

DSLR February 1. Two Saturns closely angular.

SLR March 12. Venus-Mars-Uranus plus natal Mercury-Venus-Uranus angular. Interesting, a lot commotion. He's definitely motivated and in motion (following several lackluster returns).

DSLR March 27. A blast of moderately angular planets that produce a Jupiter-Uranus-Pluto major structure near angles as Pluto exactly squares his Moon (and also his Mars). This is definitely a dramatic fortnight, probably positive and dignified.

SLR April 9. Similar transiting planets plus close natal Saturn and Neptune and a foreground partile Mars-Saturn conjunction aspecting natal Saturn. Not a good month! (Health and esteem are both at risk.)

DSLR April 23. Under that terrible SLR, the Demi has two Saturns closely foreground in near-partile mundane square. This second half of the month is probably the hard-fall period. (Pluto squares his Moon 0°02'.) If there is a tragedy to hit, this is when it happens.

DSLR May 20. Natal Jupiter and Neptune exactly angular. No aspects except non-foreground (but Jupiter is opposite his Sun 0°08' mundo and his Venus nearly as close). This is a very positive fortnight.

DSLR June 17. Transiting Saturn closely conjunct MC.
SLR June 30. Transiting Saturn 0°36' from Descendant.

DSLR July 14. Transiting Mars-Uranus partile conjunction most angular with natal Mars 1° from Ascendant. This is either severe combat, a physical attack, or a bad accident. (It covers the July 15-18 Republican convention, so may just be a lot of rage at what he sees.)

SLR July 27. Transiting Jupiter closely angular, but a mix of good and bad foreground aspects: Transiting Jupiter-Neptune to his Saturn and Neptune. (This is just after the July 15-18 Republican convention when his opponent can be expected to have a surge in the polls and covers the time of the Democratic convention August 19-22.)

DSLR August 10. This directly covers the August 19-22 Democratic convention. Natal Jupiter is on Nadir so there is great dignity but not any sign of external praise. One wonders if he is the one being nominated or the honored senior appearing to launch someone else.

SLR August 23. The day after the Democratic convention. Natal Sun-Venus exactly angular, transiting Uranus exactly angular (opposite his Sun 0°42'). A stunning, happy turn-around.

DSLR October 4. Transiting Jupiter is most angular, plus natal Uranus (but lots more angularity, all moderate-to-wide). Despite this Jupiter, the closest foreground aspect is t Saturn square r Sun 0°11'. With Saturn-Uranus to his Sun, a heart attack is not out of the question.

SLR October 17. Includes the November 5 election. A mix of angularities, the closest of which are the two Moons and natal Mars. Mercury-Pluto's transit to his Moon and Mercury, Mercury to his Jupiter, foreground Uranus-Pluto square could mean almost anything, but certainly that it will be heavily competitive.

DSLR October 31. Covers the actual election. Nothing clear so I don't expect a final result. Transiting Sun and Moon are most foreground, with Sun conjunct natal Moon 0°15' - a great sign of attention and elevation. Natal Mars is next most angular, so this whole period is a fight, but he seems in the limelight. [VP Harris' DSLR for the same day has transiting Saturn exactly on Nadir, transiting Neptune close to IC.]

SLR November 14. They're still fighting it out. Both Marses are closely angular with natal Pluto the most angular. Moon-Mars and Moon-Pluto.

DSLR November 27. A mix of many angularities. I think, though, the main message is in foreground Sun-Saturn square (1°48').

SLR December 11. Again it is still Moon and Mars most angular, plus a little natal Jupiter. It can't possibly still be going on, can it? These are aspects of law suits. December 11 is the date by which states have to certify election results. The electoral college votes December 17.

Nothing here suggests a massive health crisis or fall other than the April 9 SLR.

[SteveS]

Jim wrote:

Nothing here suggests a massive health crisis or fall other than the April 9 SLR.

Thanks Jim for your excellent analysis. What is really peaking my interest now is the tremendos wagering gains on Newsom across the pond where it is legal to wager on Prez Elections---makes me think something may be leaking out of the power base of the Dem Party, but probably wrong--just my perception with following wagering trends most of my life.