Sun in Virgo - sign project

[Jim Eshelman]

Welcome to the Sun in Virgo discussions project, which will run September 19 - October 17, 2017 (and then will remain around in case people want to revisit it in the future). Please gather your list of Sun in Virgo people (especially those you know personally) and join us.

Here are Sun in Virgo interpretive resources on the forum:
Primary section: http://www.solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=35#p160
Cyril Fagan: http://www.solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=101#p628
Garth Allen: http://www.solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=33#p135
Rupert Gleadow: http://www.solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=91#p565
Manilius: http://www.solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=121#p743

Additional discussion threads on Virgo include:
Virgo viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1111
"Virgo's Gift of Gab (Garth Allen) viewtopic.php?f=14&t=145

[Lance]

My Mom's a Virgo.

For years, she was an English teacher with the usual insistence on good grammar in speaking. She confessed to me once that she "counts." She counts how many times she chews a bite of food and how many steps it takes to get from here to there. It dawned on me at that point that she is pretty Obsessive-Compulsive when it comes to some things.

She taught Speech and Drama as well as English, and I grew up attending high school One Act Play rehearsals, sitting under the lunch tables and watching. She has always been one to speak up at church business meetings about any an all issues, and to this very day, people are rolling their eyes at her insistence that they follow Robert's Rules of Order.

She is very sensitive to criticism. She'll privately rage and imagine elaborate ways to show the offender who is boss. These are not usually carried out though I have known her to put some people in their place, so to speak, in this manner.

There isn't anything about collecting things in the Virgo characteristics. I think it's more of an old-lady trait of a certain era. But she has an enormous collection of antique glass, fine demitasse cups, etc.. curio cabinet after curio cabinet full of plates, bowls, figurines, etc. Oh! Duh. That's the "love of antiquity." Her knowledge of their history and value could certainly be described as encyclopedic.

She definitely has the "nervous undercurrent." I can't tell you how much she would benefit from routine massage for her shoulder and neck tension, but she has a hard time getting past disrobing with a stranger. If there's one thing her loved ones know about her, however, it's that she is so very anxious.

She does turn it into productive action, however. Nothing is ever out of sorts when it comes to retirement, or insurance policies, or wills, or burial plots. She's got all that mapped out and prepared. She frequently tries to discuss it with me and remind me where those papers are, etc.

It drives me crazy, but this is her manner of loving - to take care of these kinds of things - to take care of others' material needs when things are hard. Her expressing love is very materialistic. There is never a visit without several new books or toys for our little girls, and she's always trying to get my wife and I to take home this or that if we want or need it. Drives us insane, but we know it's her expression of love.

Anyway, that's my Virgo.

[Jim Eshelman]

I thought a lunar-theme was on the general track, or (reading your description better) Venus. (If it were just "old stuff," it could be Saturn, but it sounds like dainty and lovely stuff, the grown-up elegant version of a child's tea set.

Of the several Virgo's in my family, none have or had that trait in quite the way you describe. I'm not a collector in that sense. As a child, I was interested in coins (kids do that). I have "sets" or things more than "collections," and a detail or my psyche with regard to these seems to be the possibility of getting a complete set and trackability. For example, my large collection of American Astrology magazines was more the opportunity to add relevant reference material to a library, and bought when someone dumped them on a used book store. When DVDs settled in as a stable medium, I started a collection of Oscar-winning films - a defined, precise category, with an attempt to get all of them (I have all but two Best Picture winners, and later added categories for best actor/actress and best director, and these are heavily populated). Part of the joy of these is the movie, and part is the level of organization on the Excel spreadsheet that tracks them and allows rapid return of information.

For me, its all about reference materials .

[Avshalom Binyamin]

So true.

Having a comprehensive list of something is so satisfying!

As a kid, if I started drawing an animal, pretty soon I'd find myself trying to draw a zoo, and then worrying whether I had got all the animals represented.

A friend astutely observed that Virgos sometimes start looking for a missing sock, which leads to them reorganizing the sock drawer, which leads to them organizing the closet.

Another theme I've noticed is being bashful/easy to embarrass. I'm almost 37, and have now done many, many things younger me (or regular 'vanilla' people) would consider completely shocking (threesomes, foursomes, public sex, BDSM, etc.). But I still am really bashful and blush easily if someone brings up a sexual topic in a casual group setting.

(And now I'm beginning to wonder if the list of sexual activities is now it's own comprehensive set of reference data. So Virgo.)

[Jim Eshelman]

Another theme I've noticed is being bashful/easy to embarrass. I'm almost 37, and have now done many, many things younger me (or regular 'vanilla' people) would consider completely shocking (threesomes, foursomes, public sex, BDSM, etc.). But I still am really bashful and blush easily if someone brings up a sexual topic in a casual group setting.

(And now I'm beginning to wonder if the list of sexual activities is now it's own comprehensive set of reference data. So Virgo.)

Of course it is

Yes, this balance of bashful and (what most others would regard as) brazen. It never felt brazen to me, just life; but I think there were also elements of, I dunno, being comprehensive, well informed, and competent. That's a side element - Virgo's deep symbolism is more sexual than Tropical culture provides, because it themes to readiness (early puberty in centuries past: capacity to reproduce, the more authentic meaning of the Latin virgo to mean "ripe maid, ready for it," etc. And yet, there is a natural demure shyness.

On reflection, I have a hard time filtering this from my Venus-Pluto square. Venus-Pluto demands authenticity, intensity, fullness - doesn't hesitate to fall in love and it's almost a matter of "love the one you're with" except without the triviality and implied insincerity of that. But where is the line between that and Virgo? Because I was about to say Virgo needs reality and authenticity in sexual contact, and the bashfulness partly comes from the non-superficiality - it's real, I'm serious, yes I "mean business," etc. But maybe this is my Venus-Pluto.

In any case, the one strikingly accurate depiction of Virgo sexuality is inherent in the most important sentence in The Revenge of the Nerds. If you've ever seen it, and especially if you're a Virgo and have ever seen it (you have!), I don't have to quote it

[Avshalom Binyamin]

On reflection, I have a hard time filtering this from my Venus-Pluto square. Venus-Pluto demands authenticity, intensity, fullness - don't hesitate to fall in love and it's almost a matter of "love the one you're with" except without the triviality and implied insincerity of that. But where is the line between that and Virgo? Because I was about to say Virgo needs reality and authenticity in sexual contact, and the bashfulness partly comes from the non-superficiality - it's real, I'm serious, yes I "mean business," etc. But maybe this is my Venus-Pluto.

I can relate to the idea of only being in relationships with people that I am really deeply into. Superficial pairings don't usually last beyond a couple dates, because if I'm not way into it, it has a short shelf life. However I perceive you as being more unabashedly, publicly, effusively 'gah-gah' for your romantic partner than I typically am in relationships (I get really shy about public attestations of affection). But I also have some attachment issues that are probably in play here.

In any case, the one strikingly accurate depiction of Virgo sexuality is inherent in the most important sentence in The Revenge of the Nerds. If you've ever seen it, and especially if you're a Virgo and have ever seen it (you have!), I don't have to quote it

This one?:
Are all nerds as good as you?
Yes.
How come?
'Cause all jocks ever think about is sports, all we ever think about is sex.

As a 22-year-old virgin who had read victorian medical textbooks and the kama sutra since about age 10 so as to have comprehensive reference data for when the great moment finally arrived, I'd have to concur.

[Jim Eshelman]

Yes. Of course that one. And yes, a big part of it is ensuring competency and skill.

[Soft Alpaca]

My nana is a Virgo sun Scorpio Mars and Mars in Cancer, my mom (her daughter) is a Aquarius Sun Scorpio Moon and Virgo Mars. Both of these women have Moon at 15/16 degrees Scorpio squaring my own so i know them very well.

My nana had at one point in time her notary and antique shop! As well as doing both computer and office work (for hospitals) before doing notary and office work for her now past husband at his salvage lot.

Now we are talking about taking the land (which besides the antiques {the kitchen alone may be worth 10,000k} we dont have a lot of monetary wealth) and selling about half of it off (60 maybe 70 out of the 110) to start hopefully a multi million dollar medical cannabis farm in rural PA. (3-18 million income est. year one)....

Also her Virgo to my Sag and her Scorpio to my Cap one coyld consider us both a bit angry and bipolar...

[Soft Alpaca]

Not only that at Crazy Nana's homestead i think cancer research funding will be really really heavy (she's lost so many to cancer who couldn't get medical marijuana too).

[SteveS]

the essence of cultivated food...

Indeed! I never will forget the time in my life when I was introduced to a couple of traders at the grain trade in Chicago, and saw all the mythological figures for the CME (Chicago Grains) symbolizing Wheat & Corn. I was not into astrology at this time, but when I realized Virgo has a-lot to do with grains, I always go back to my brief times trading grains at the CME.

[Jim Eshelman]

I have finished the rewrite of the long Sun in Virgo interpretation section on this site. The fully product can be found here:
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=35&p=160#p160

I've modified the Preliminary Summary accordingly - nothing wrong with it except for focus and emphasis. Here is the new one:

PRELIMINARY SUMMARY: Curious, mentally sharp, strategic, tactical, analytical, logical, scrutinizing, encyclopedic, preserves information. Favors trees over forest. Bashful yet brazen. Respectful, tolerant, sociable, serious. Courageous in word and deed. Service-minded, conscientious. Active toward social progress (rarely radical). Androgynous traits.

Thanks to everyone for their assistance.