Solar Arc Directions
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They haven't been that much of a big deal in my life (with one stark exception). They work, they're oiperative, but (for example) looking at a list of their dates across life doesn't usually make anything pop from memory of, "Oh, wow, THAT happened with that aspect?!"
BTW, I do think that Sun and Moon rank as strongly as the angles in the BIG solar arc events. Directed Sun, of course, is also progressed Sun, but - even with that advisory - directions TO or BY Moon and Sun seem about as important as those to or by the angles. I think all four "personal points" have to be taken on equal footing.
And then all the other solar arcs work, too. I just posted on the Trump thread that he is currently (to the minute) at directed Pluto to natal Saturn concurrent with directed Mars to natal Pluto (activating his natal Pl = Ma/Sa). These are putting him through events as big as any that his directed angles did.
BTW, I do think that Sun and Moon rank as strongly as the angles in the BIG solar arc events. Directed Sun, of course, is also progressed Sun, but - even with that advisory - directions TO or BY Moon and Sun seem about as important as those to or by the angles. I think all four "personal points" have to be taken on equal footing.
And then all the other solar arcs work, too. I just posted on the Trump thread that he is currently (to the minute) at directed Pluto to natal Saturn concurrent with directed Mars to natal Pluto (activating his natal Pl = Ma/Sa). These are putting him through events as big as any that his directed angles did.
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Just wondering if d SA natal angles or relocated angles can be used in rectifying a birth time. I’ve been working with a time of 7:49 AM for my husband but it could be up to 8 AM, as per his mother. Upon looking at his relocated d SA for our 2011 residence in Connecticut and using 7:49 AM, I noticed a N Moon-Pluto 90 SA d MC as well as a Moon-Pluto 90 natal MC but both not in orb. He retired on June 29, 2011.I do think that Sun and Moon rank as strongly as the angles in the BIG solar arc events
By pushing his time of birth to 7:53 AM, this gives close to an exact 90 aspect for both Natal and directed MC. 7:53 AM also places my Natal Venus conjunct his MC, which would fit. His retiring was a fairly big event in his life, so it makes sense that it would show up by secondary progression, transits, or SA. Transits were in play with Pluto 90 Sun however, which could be enough. He’s lived in three countries and various cities so there are many events and places I could work with.
Any thoughts?
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You can certainly use this to "top off" or refine a rectification. I wouldn't use it unless I felt confident with a couple of degrees already - gaining confidence in the general range with lunar returns, narrowing it a bit with things like transits to angles and an occasional quotidian - and then use solar arcs for refinement or at least confirmation.
Most of that may be style, though. Bottom line is, sure, this is a tool to include in your rectification tool kit.
Most of that may be style, though. Bottom line is, sure, this is a tool to include in your rectification tool kit.
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Thanks, JimBottom line is, sure, this is a tool to include in your rectification tool kit.
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Jim wrote:
However, when my friend unexpectedly died my d MC 90 Natal Pluto (00,14)-- and I was “stunned & shocked” for months with not having my friend in my life. This one angular Solar Arc has drastically affected my life in astonishing transformative ways leaving me with a deep hurt of psychological feelings.
The only reasoning that makes sense to me is that d Moon n Jupiter manifested within the context of the d MC n Pl with an abundant (Jupiter) of emotional feelings (Moon) with the death (d MC n Pl) of my best friend.
I generally agree. However when my best friend suddenly died unexpectedly in March 2022 my Solar Arc Natal Moon was partile 90 my angular Natal Jupiter. Maybe this d Moon-Jupiter manifested in a way before my friend’s death but I can’t recall any kind of peak manifestations for this d Moon 90 Natal Jupiter.I think all four "personal points" have to be taken on equal footing.
However, when my friend unexpectedly died my d MC 90 Natal Pluto (00,14)-- and I was “stunned & shocked” for months with not having my friend in my life. This one angular Solar Arc has drastically affected my life in astonishing transformative ways leaving me with a deep hurt of psychological feelings.
The only reasoning that makes sense to me is that d Moon n Jupiter manifested within the context of the d MC n Pl with an abundant (Jupiter) of emotional feelings (Moon) with the death (d MC n Pl) of my best friend.
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Steve wrote:
For the event previously described in Jan 1987, I decided to use converse progressions and calculate my chart to that person’s date/birth time. However, I used my birth location where this life-changing event occurred with a Sec Prog Q2 Mean Quotidian rate. He was born EST in a different province and the Moon-Mars-Uranus aspect is not on the progressed Quotidian angles for that birthplace but still, this is quite dramatic.
Asc 02°Cn41'
Mars 02°Cn42'
Uranus 02°Cn56'
Moon 02°Cp53'
Along with the Solar Arc Sun-Uranus-Moon, my secondary progressions in SA longitude and the transits it fits the symbolism for a major life event, which it was.
Steve,At times in our lives Solar Arcs along with Secondary Progressions synchronize offering partile 0, 90, 180 aspects to offer superb symbolism for our major “life development” experiences.
For the event previously described in Jan 1987, I decided to use converse progressions and calculate my chart to that person’s date/birth time. However, I used my birth location where this life-changing event occurred with a Sec Prog Q2 Mean Quotidian rate. He was born EST in a different province and the Moon-Mars-Uranus aspect is not on the progressed Quotidian angles for that birthplace but still, this is quite dramatic.
Asc 02°Cn41'
Mars 02°Cn42'
Uranus 02°Cn56'
Moon 02°Cp53'
Along with the Solar Arc Sun-Uranus-Moon, my secondary progressions in SA longitude and the transits it fits the symbolism for a major life event, which it was.
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Lyse wrote:
Indeed it is “dramatic” Lyse!
Lyse wrote:
Lyse wrote:
Lyse, you have jogged my fading memory. It seems I remember Jim introducing a similar method that one of the Sidereal Astrology fathers introduced many years back in time, but I can’t recall the exact method, I will go back and look again. But anyway Lyse, your example here is certainly intriguing outside the standard synastry methods for relationships with certain unique experiences which occur with relationships and their futures. I need to go back and look at the astrological circumstances/symbolism that existed when Gayle (wife) and I met and then soon married. Thanks again for your feed back.
…but still, this is quite dramatic.
Asc 02°Cn41'
Mars 02°Cn42'
Uranus 02°Cn56'
Moon 02°Cp53'

Lyse wrote:
I have very little experience with “converse” any method Lyse. But, let me make sure I understand your thinking process here Lyse. Your example here insinuates: When we develop any kind of new relationship with a person and have the birth data of that other person, we should check our converse progressions back to each other’s birth data to possibly indicate what kind of symbolic experiences we may encounter in the future, right? For example: When I met my wife of 52 years in the summer of 1970, and if I was an astrologer which I was not, then besides checking our synastry charts I would have checked our converse progressions back to each of our dates/birth time? Or, if a serious “developed relationship” has already existed and then a major event/development happens, we then check the converse progressions back to our birthdates?For the event previously described in Jan 1987, I decided to use converse progressions and calculate my chart to that person’s date/birth time.
Lyse wrote:
Indeed, it is a par-excellent example.Along with the Solar Arc Sun-Uranus-Moon, my secondary progressions in SA longitude and the transits it fits the symbolism for a major life event, which it was.
Lyse, you have jogged my fading memory. It seems I remember Jim introducing a similar method that one of the Sidereal Astrology fathers introduced many years back in time, but I can’t recall the exact method, I will go back and look again. But anyway Lyse, your example here is certainly intriguing outside the standard synastry methods for relationships with certain unique experiences which occur with relationships and their futures. I need to go back and look at the astrological circumstances/symbolism that existed when Gayle (wife) and I met and then soon married. Thanks again for your feed back.

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Yes, he did and I’ve been using that method quite often. This person had been living here for many years so I used converse progressions to his relocated birth chart.you have jogged my fading memory. It seems I remember Jim introducing a similar method that one of the Sidereal Astrology fathers introduced many years back in time, but I can’t recall the exact method, I will go back and look again.
https://solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=6686
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Lyse wrote:

Thanks Lyse for the link, I reread the “method” and it is a remarkable method, as well as your cited example above.Yes, he did and I’ve been using that method quite often.

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In Noel Tyl’s book he offers as tones for MC-Mars Solar Arc directions, 0, 90, 180 only:
Pertaining to the recent “fire” at my friend’s beach side café, IMO, all of these above tones are now in the forefront of his immediate environment with his Solar Arc d MC n Mars.Ego awareness, action, fire, change of status. Recognition, responsibility grows.
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For sure, the main predictive method I see for uniting me to Gayle (my wife of 52 years) comes from my Solar Arc directions (d). Some astrologers believe Solar Arcs (d) are “the most successful predictive system” in astrology. IMO, I think Solar Arcs, the Sidereal Solar Return (SSR), and the four Moons (Natal & SSR Moons; sp Natal & SSR Moons) are the best predictive methods in Astrology. I will only use 0, 90, 180 partile d aspects for my Solar Arc directions (d), here they are:
d Moon = n Venus; Ebertin’s COSI “Principle” for Moon-Venus:
d Moon = n Venus; Ebertin’s COSI “Principle” for Moon-Venus:
d Venus = n Mars; Ebertin’s COSI words:The feeling of love, devotion
Both these two Solar Arc hits above is obvious to me how/why I fell in love with Gayle in the summer of 1970. Including 0, 90, 180 d aspects, these two above were the only time in my entire life they occurred (once in a lifetime Solar Arc directions), and they both involved Venus, Cupid’s (Venus) arrow pierced my heart.The impulse to love. Passion. Passionate love, sensuality, desire, a warm heart. A strongly sexual, sensual nature. “Sociological Correspondence”: People in love, sex unions, the beginning of associations based purely on sex.

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I find it most interesting that Margot Robbie’s Movie “Barbie” with Margot as the leading role about the most “beautiful” female doll ever created in this world, which has sold over 1 Billion dolls worldwide since its creation in 1959--- calculates her Natal Solar Arc Taurus Venus partile conjunct her Natal Sun. This is the only time for her entire life she will experience either a 0 90 180 for this Venus Solar Arc to her Natal Sun, a “once in a lifetime” Solar Arc Venus hit to her Sun. Mattel claiming that three Barbie dolls are sold every second. Amazing par-excellent symbolism Venus symbolism for Margot for one of the best predictive astrological methods known in Astrology.
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We all realize the predictive art for Solar Arc Directions, particularly involving the personal points of Sun, Moon, & Angles. Here is another stunning example:
When Kamala Harris took office as Vice President of USA on Jan 20 2021, look at her Natal Full Moon Solar Arc directed almost exact to her Natal Horizon. Link below, Natal (inside wheel); Solar Arc (outside wheel).
https://ibb.co/bJCBgbs
When Kamala Harris took office as Vice President of USA on Jan 20 2021, look at her Natal Full Moon Solar Arc directed almost exact to her Natal Horizon. Link below, Natal (inside wheel); Solar Arc (outside wheel).
https://ibb.co/bJCBgbs
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Re: "When Kamala Harris took office as Vice President of USA on Jan 20 2021, look at her Natal Full Moon Solar Arc directed almost exact to her Natal Horizon."
And as this was happening, she also had SA Asc conjunct Mars (0° 10') and SA Venus conjunct Vertex (0° 8').
And as this was happening, she also had SA Asc conjunct Mars (0° 10') and SA Venus conjunct Vertex (0° 8').
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Excellent observations James, particularly her Solar Arc ASC partile cnj her Natal Mars. Allowed me to also note her Solar Arc Node partile cnj Natal Mars. Ebertin from COSI for Node/ASC = Mars:
Desire to achieve something with others, a working association of people for the pursuit of the same objectives.
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When you get as old as me (76) and have been studying/practicing astrology as long as me (40 years), the astrological mind starts thinking more about the important moments in a lifetime and the pure astrological method that timed those important moments in life. Before I got into Sidereal Astrology, I studied the great British astrologer, Charles C.E.O. Carters work. Carter spent his lifetime studying astrology and I want to comment on some of his work which I think contains important grains of truth, it involves Progressions of the Natal Chart, but I think the more grains of truth pertains to Solar Arc Directions vs Secondary Progressions. Jim would probably know better than me.
But, back in Carter’s days Solar Arc Directions had not been developed to its sophistication we have today with computers handling each individual’s different rate of Solar Arc Directions, and that is why I am putting this post under Solar Arc Directions, but it probably should be posted in the Progressions Topic as well. It’s just in my life, when Carter uses the word “progressions”, I find more truth in what Carter is teaching about secondary natal progressions—with Solar Arc Directions.
I think back on my life and without a doubt the most important crises to ever take place in my life was timed when my 8H Mars Solar Arc Directed to my Natal MC, it was pure Mars Hell for me and almost came close to putting me in a hospital with a nervous breakdown, I will spare you the details. But, out of this huge crises in my life the most important opportunity was birthed for my life, also involving a Solar Arc Direction.
Carter says:
But where I am uncertain with Carter’s above quoted “rule” -- if there is a 3 degree approaching 90 aspect in a Natal, does Carter mean when the approaching natal planet progresses to a partile 90 aspect with the other planet in the Natal it means the symbolism of the two planets will fire-off in a life time? Carter never really clearly defined what constituted a Natal Aspect, but IMHO, Sidereal Astrology offers much more clarity on the subject of aspects.
When I got into Sidereal Astrology, and discovered Jim’s “rule” that partile (1 degree or less) “reign supreme” in any chart, much more clarity was revealed to me pertaining to Solar Arc Directions involving the Natal Angles. Later, I will offer an example from my Natal which may help you in your life for screening with certainly when a Solar Arc Direction will manifest big time in your life. And then maybe we can experiment with other members charts with their Natal Aspects (Class 1) combined with their Solar Arc Directions to see if we all can learn better and get closer to truths.
We already know for sure not all Solar Arcs manifest meaningful incidents in our life times. I am trying to offer a possible study that helps us to determine more truths of the matter of Solar Arc Directions.
But, back in Carter’s days Solar Arc Directions had not been developed to its sophistication we have today with computers handling each individual’s different rate of Solar Arc Directions, and that is why I am putting this post under Solar Arc Directions, but it probably should be posted in the Progressions Topic as well. It’s just in my life, when Carter uses the word “progressions”, I find more truth in what Carter is teaching about secondary natal progressions—with Solar Arc Directions.
I think back on my life and without a doubt the most important crises to ever take place in my life was timed when my 8H Mars Solar Arc Directed to my Natal MC, it was pure Mars Hell for me and almost came close to putting me in a hospital with a nervous breakdown, I will spare you the details. But, out of this huge crises in my life the most important opportunity was birthed for my life, also involving a Solar Arc Direction.
Let’s get into Carter’s teachings, but remember when he uses the word “directions” he is only meaning secondary natal progressions.In the midst of every crisis, lies great opportunity. Albert Einstein
Carter says:
Again, Carter plainly means a natal progressed to progressed, or progressed to natal aspect. But, it is important to realize Carter says this “rule” only applies to when we see Natal Planets in aspect. In other words, if there is no Natal aspect, not all of one’s progressed to natal or progressed to progressed aspects will manifest anything meaningful in a lifetime. But herein lies one huge problem: What orbs do we allow to determine a true Natal Aspect? I don’t really know for sure, its a topic that has always been debated among astrologers. I have seen where Mike and Jim on this forum sub-divide return aspects into 3 classes---1, 2, & 3 with Class 1 being the strongest and I certainly have no problem with this guideline, it’s a good guideline.It is a cardinal rule that no direction can bring to pass what is not shown in the nativity. Exceptions to this are virtually non-existent.
But where I am uncertain with Carter’s above quoted “rule” -- if there is a 3 degree approaching 90 aspect in a Natal, does Carter mean when the approaching natal planet progresses to a partile 90 aspect with the other planet in the Natal it means the symbolism of the two planets will fire-off in a life time? Carter never really clearly defined what constituted a Natal Aspect, but IMHO, Sidereal Astrology offers much more clarity on the subject of aspects.
When I got into Sidereal Astrology, and discovered Jim’s “rule” that partile (1 degree or less) “reign supreme” in any chart, much more clarity was revealed to me pertaining to Solar Arc Directions involving the Natal Angles. Later, I will offer an example from my Natal which may help you in your life for screening with certainly when a Solar Arc Direction will manifest big time in your life. And then maybe we can experiment with other members charts with their Natal Aspects (Class 1) combined with their Solar Arc Directions to see if we all can learn better and get closer to truths.

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I think it was much wider than that. This wasn't just Carter's rule - it was a standard rule of early 20th century astrology (with which Fagan took serious issue). It meant any way of showing the matter, and was usually house-driven and house rulership-driven, e.g., a serious, damaging accident while on foreign travel could never be shown by a direction unless the birth chart had a violent affliction to a planet in the 9th house or the ruler of the 9th house - that sort of thing.
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Let's try to experiment with this Jim with other members and their lives after I set-up my life example. I have always been very curious about some of the older writtings on progressions/directions-- "can't happen unless Natal shows it."
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I have read a-lot of astrological books in my 38 years of studying astrology, and being a Virgo I critically examined all their timing methods with my Natal Chart seeking the truth which ones hold the most truth from a timing standpoint when something of importance would/could manifest in a lifetime, something which seemed so obvious from a Natal Chart aspect which could not be denied with the individual experience of an astrologer looking back over their lifetime. Without a doubt Solar Arcs are most important for timing significant life events, but IMHO, most Solar Arcs over a lifetime will not manifest an “outstanding” life incident without other certain timing methods present, which I will try to discuss later. I wish there were available on this Forum a dozen of elderly people my age who were serious astrological members for the sole purpose of a discussion group about their important individual Solar Arcs, if so, we could learn so much more about Solar Arcs and which ones may be meaningful for a lifetime. Anyway, here are my best opinions based on my Natal Chart which ones are more important and WHY I think they are more important. Just because what I see with my Natal pertaining to Solar Arc certainly does not mean the same for your Natal/Solar Arcs. I am only choosing one of my Natal aspects for possible learning services with other possible members and their Natals/Solar Arcs, helping us maybe all to better learnings.
The most important Natal aspect in my chart related to my individual Solar Arcs which by far left an indelible memory on my psyche for my present lifetime of 76 years is my partile 1H Scorpio Moon (15,22) partile (0,32) 135 aspect to my 8H Gemini Mars at 29,50. I have other partile aspects in my Natal, but WHY this Moon-Mars partile 135 aspect for setting me up for the most gut-wrenching Solar Arc episode in my entire life is a glaring question for my mind? I will endeavor to answer this WHY based on my opinions combined with my astrological learnings over my lifetime, but by no means do I think my individual learnings would/could apply exclusively to your Natal. I am offering my life experiences as a possible learning tool for discussions. In the next post will be my main 3 conclusions based on my Natal Moon-Mars aspect. I sincerely hope these conclusions will help you/us with our own individual investigations pertaining to our Natal/Solar Arcs with any Natal aspect you/me may want to further investigate with the timing mechanisms for a life of Solar Arcs. Feedback is welcome! I have always wanted to be involved with other learning astrologers on a forum for possible group discussions for our possible enhanced learnings involving the background of our lives with our Natals/Solar Arcs.
too be continued…
The most important Natal aspect in my chart related to my individual Solar Arcs which by far left an indelible memory on my psyche for my present lifetime of 76 years is my partile 1H Scorpio Moon (15,22) partile (0,32) 135 aspect to my 8H Gemini Mars at 29,50. I have other partile aspects in my Natal, but WHY this Moon-Mars partile 135 aspect for setting me up for the most gut-wrenching Solar Arc episode in my entire life is a glaring question for my mind? I will endeavor to answer this WHY based on my opinions combined with my astrological learnings over my lifetime, but by no means do I think my individual learnings would/could apply exclusively to your Natal. I am offering my life experiences as a possible learning tool for discussions. In the next post will be my main 3 conclusions based on my Natal Moon-Mars aspect. I sincerely hope these conclusions will help you/us with our own individual investigations pertaining to our Natal/Solar Arcs with any Natal aspect you/me may want to further investigate with the timing mechanisms for a life of Solar Arcs. Feedback is welcome! I have always wanted to be involved with other learning astrologers on a forum for possible group discussions for our possible enhanced learnings involving the background of our lives with our Natals/Solar Arcs.

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Donald Bradley's death
I'd never looked at this example before. Donald Bradley died April 25, 1974 (next spring marks 50 years). Here were his solar arcs at death from his final round of cancer (one of which is also a secondary progression). BTW this uses the 2:40 AM time, not the 2:04 published in AA.
15°36' Aqu - r Moon
15°36' Aqu - d Jupiter 00'
Transiting Jupiter was in the same degree.
16°13' Ari - d Asc -02'
16°15' Lib - r Saturn
2°37' Sag - r MC
3°04' Sag - d Saturn +27'
18°05' Gem - d/p Sun -08'
18°13' Gem - r Pluto
Already over, but affecting the two years prior:
26°10' Can - r Neptune
27°12' Can - d Mars
15°36' Aqu - r Moon
15°36' Aqu - d Jupiter 00'
Transiting Jupiter was in the same degree.
16°13' Ari - d Asc -02'
16°15' Lib - r Saturn
2°37' Sag - r MC
3°04' Sag - d Saturn +27'
18°05' Gem - d/p Sun -08'
18°13' Gem - r Pluto
Already over, but affecting the two years prior:
26°10' Can - r Neptune
27°12' Can - d Mars
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Round three (IIRC) of cancer. - The SLR a few days before he died is beautiful and peaceful, so the end was probably without pain - it matched that 00' Jupiter direction.
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Well, since you made the call for older types with events to peruse Solar Arcs, I guess I'll step up... (all will be under 0° 20' of arc... any that seem irrelevant, read on...I've highlighted the conjunctions and oppositions) In most cases though, the Age Harmonics are a stronger (astrological) statement)
*Birth of Sister
SA Pluto (in 3rd) opposite Jupiter (0° 12')
LA Pluto square Node (0° 14')
AH Node square Jupiter, AH Midheaven sesquisquare Mercury
*Birth of Brother
SA Mercury sesquisquare Saturn (0° 7')
SA Uranus semisquare Ascendant (0° 14')
SA Pluto semisquare Moon (0° 13')
LA Mercury conjunct Uranus (0° 18')
AH Mars square Mercury, AH Node conjunct Vertex
*Birth of Brother
SA Sun conjunct Ascendant (0° 9')
SA Mars semisquare Ascendant (0° 4')
LA Jupiter conjunct Mercury (0° 15')
AH Moon opposite Node, AH Mercury square Midheaven
*Death of Grandfather (adoptive Father)
SA Sun sesquisquare Jupiter (0° 2') [inherited a house]
SA Mars square Jupiter (0° 2')
SA Pluto sesquisquare Saturn (0° 19')
LA Jupiter square Moon (0° 9')
AH Neptune conjunct Midheaven, AH Pluto opposite Moon
*Death of Grandmother (adoptive Mother)
SA Venus semisquare Moon (0° 2')
SA Saturn square Vertex (0° 19')
LA Venus conjunct Moon (0° 12')
AH Node conjunct Venus, AH Saturn opposite Venus
*Birth of first Son
SA Pluto semisquare Venus (0° 3')
LA Moon sesquisquare Jupiter (0° 15')
AH Jupiter square Mars, AH Uranus opposite Node, AH Imum Coeli conjunct Jupiter
*Marriage
SA Midheaven semisquare Jupiter (0° 3')
AH Vertex conjunct Venus, AH Jupiter sesquisquare Sun
*Birth of Twins
SA Mercury conjunct Ascendant (0° 8')
SA Sun opposite Saturn (0° 8')
LA Jupiter square Ascendant (0° 12')
AH Node conjunct Neptune, AH Neptune conjunct Node
*Death of maternal Grandmother
SA Ascendant conjunct Venus (0° 5') (SA Dsc in 8th opposite Venus)
SA Venus square Mercury (0° 2')
AH Ascendant opposite Neptune, AH MC sesquisquare Pluto
*Fly (first time overseas) to begin relationship with my current Wife
SA Moon square Vertex (0° 3')
SA Jupiter square Ascendant (0° 9')
SA Mars square Midheaven (0° 14')
AH Venus conjunct Sun, AH Ascendant square Jupiter, AH Node semisquare Venus
*Wife moves overseas a month later to live with me
LA Node square Jupiter (0° 9')
AH Moon conjunct Ascendant, AH Venus conjunct Node
*Got Married
SA Vertex opposite Sun (0° 7')
LA Sun opposite Mars (0° 2')
LA Mars square Sun (0° 6')
AH Ascendant square Jupiter, AH Ascendant semisquare Moon
*Birth of Son
SA Ascendant square Mars (0° 1')
LA Sun conjunct Descendant (0° 16')
LA Mars sesquisquare Ascendant (0° 11')
AH Venus semisquare Midheaven, AH Uranus sesquisquare Sun
*3-Car Accident w/ Injury
SA Pluto square Ascendant (0° 6') (3rd House Pluto directed to square the Asc)
LA Mars conjunct Vertex (0° 2')
AH Mars sesquisquare Ascendant, AH Mars conjunct Vertex, AH Saturn conjunct Venus
*Move permanently overseas
SA Pluto semisquare Vertex (0° 18')
LA Neptune conjunct Mars (0° 1')
LA Vertex conjunct Mercury (0° 9')
AH Node conjunct Moon, AH Saturn opposite Moon, AH Neptune square Moon
*Birth of Daughter
SA Venus conjunct IC (0° 15')
AH Midheaven square Venus, AH Ascendant opposite Pluto
*Death of (ex) Step-Father
SA Node semisquare Neptune (0° 0')
SA Saturn sesquisquare Node (0° 14')
AH Mars conjunct Neptune, AH Mars square Saturn, AH Mars square Node
*Death of Brother
SA Moon semisquare Node (0° 0')
SA Mercury sesquisquare Midheaven (0° 10')
SA Pluto sesquisquare Mercury (0° 10')
AH Mars conjunct Uranus, AH Vertex opposite Pluto
*Death of Father-in-Law
SA Sun conjunct Pluto (0° 6')
SA Moon semisquare Node (0° 10')
SA Jupiter square Node (0° 11')
AH Pluto square Neptune, AH Jupiter sesquisquare Midheaven (inheritance), AH Mars square Moon
*Death of Father
SA Moon semisquare Neptune (0° 1')
LA Pluto square Node (0° 0')
LA Pluto square Saturn (0° 15')
AH Mars opposite Pluto, AH Midheaven opposite Sun, AH Moon square Saturn
*Death of Mother
SA Jupiter square Node (0° 8')
LA Moon semisquare Node (0° 17')
AH Midheaven sesquisquare Venus, AH Vertex square Pluto
*Gain dream job, cleaned slate
SA Jupiter opposite Neptune (0° 9')
LA Midheaven square Jupiter (0° 5')
AH Moon semisquare Jupiter, AH Uranus square Mars (tech job), AH Node conjunct Saturn
*Birth of Sister
SA Pluto (in 3rd) opposite Jupiter (0° 12')
LA Pluto square Node (0° 14')
AH Node square Jupiter, AH Midheaven sesquisquare Mercury
*Birth of Brother
SA Mercury sesquisquare Saturn (0° 7')
SA Uranus semisquare Ascendant (0° 14')
SA Pluto semisquare Moon (0° 13')
LA Mercury conjunct Uranus (0° 18')
AH Mars square Mercury, AH Node conjunct Vertex
*Birth of Brother
SA Sun conjunct Ascendant (0° 9')
SA Mars semisquare Ascendant (0° 4')
LA Jupiter conjunct Mercury (0° 15')
AH Moon opposite Node, AH Mercury square Midheaven
*Death of Grandfather (adoptive Father)
SA Sun sesquisquare Jupiter (0° 2') [inherited a house]
SA Mars square Jupiter (0° 2')
SA Pluto sesquisquare Saturn (0° 19')
LA Jupiter square Moon (0° 9')
AH Neptune conjunct Midheaven, AH Pluto opposite Moon
*Death of Grandmother (adoptive Mother)
SA Venus semisquare Moon (0° 2')
SA Saturn square Vertex (0° 19')
LA Venus conjunct Moon (0° 12')
AH Node conjunct Venus, AH Saturn opposite Venus
*Birth of first Son
SA Pluto semisquare Venus (0° 3')
LA Moon sesquisquare Jupiter (0° 15')
AH Jupiter square Mars, AH Uranus opposite Node, AH Imum Coeli conjunct Jupiter
*Marriage
SA Midheaven semisquare Jupiter (0° 3')
AH Vertex conjunct Venus, AH Jupiter sesquisquare Sun
*Birth of Twins
SA Mercury conjunct Ascendant (0° 8')
SA Sun opposite Saturn (0° 8')
LA Jupiter square Ascendant (0° 12')
AH Node conjunct Neptune, AH Neptune conjunct Node
*Death of maternal Grandmother
SA Ascendant conjunct Venus (0° 5') (SA Dsc in 8th opposite Venus)
SA Venus square Mercury (0° 2')
AH Ascendant opposite Neptune, AH MC sesquisquare Pluto
*Fly (first time overseas) to begin relationship with my current Wife
SA Moon square Vertex (0° 3')
SA Jupiter square Ascendant (0° 9')
SA Mars square Midheaven (0° 14')
AH Venus conjunct Sun, AH Ascendant square Jupiter, AH Node semisquare Venus
*Wife moves overseas a month later to live with me
LA Node square Jupiter (0° 9')
AH Moon conjunct Ascendant, AH Venus conjunct Node
*Got Married
SA Vertex opposite Sun (0° 7')
LA Sun opposite Mars (0° 2')
LA Mars square Sun (0° 6')
AH Ascendant square Jupiter, AH Ascendant semisquare Moon
*Birth of Son
SA Ascendant square Mars (0° 1')
LA Sun conjunct Descendant (0° 16')
LA Mars sesquisquare Ascendant (0° 11')
AH Venus semisquare Midheaven, AH Uranus sesquisquare Sun
*3-Car Accident w/ Injury
SA Pluto square Ascendant (0° 6') (3rd House Pluto directed to square the Asc)
LA Mars conjunct Vertex (0° 2')
AH Mars sesquisquare Ascendant, AH Mars conjunct Vertex, AH Saturn conjunct Venus
*Move permanently overseas
SA Pluto semisquare Vertex (0° 18')
LA Neptune conjunct Mars (0° 1')
LA Vertex conjunct Mercury (0° 9')
AH Node conjunct Moon, AH Saturn opposite Moon, AH Neptune square Moon
*Birth of Daughter
SA Venus conjunct IC (0° 15')
AH Midheaven square Venus, AH Ascendant opposite Pluto
*Death of (ex) Step-Father
SA Node semisquare Neptune (0° 0')
SA Saturn sesquisquare Node (0° 14')
AH Mars conjunct Neptune, AH Mars square Saturn, AH Mars square Node
*Death of Brother
SA Moon semisquare Node (0° 0')
SA Mercury sesquisquare Midheaven (0° 10')
SA Pluto sesquisquare Mercury (0° 10')
AH Mars conjunct Uranus, AH Vertex opposite Pluto
*Death of Father-in-Law
SA Sun conjunct Pluto (0° 6')
SA Moon semisquare Node (0° 10')
SA Jupiter square Node (0° 11')
AH Pluto square Neptune, AH Jupiter sesquisquare Midheaven (inheritance), AH Mars square Moon
*Death of Father
SA Moon semisquare Neptune (0° 1')
LA Pluto square Node (0° 0')
LA Pluto square Saturn (0° 15')
AH Mars opposite Pluto, AH Midheaven opposite Sun, AH Moon square Saturn
*Death of Mother
SA Jupiter square Node (0° 8')
LA Moon semisquare Node (0° 17')
AH Midheaven sesquisquare Venus, AH Vertex square Pluto
*Gain dream job, cleaned slate
SA Jupiter opposite Neptune (0° 9')
LA Midheaven square Jupiter (0° 5')
AH Moon semisquare Jupiter, AH Uranus square Mars (tech job), AH Node conjunct Saturn
Re: Solar Arc Directions
What does LA and AH stand for ODdOnLifeItself ?
I would think semi and sesqi aspects do not apply. Better to focus on conjunctions, oppositions and squares only.
I would think semi and sesqi aspects do not apply. Better to focus on conjunctions, oppositions and squares only.
Re: Solar Arc Directions
Thanks James for your feedback, but I think I need to clarify more what I am trying to determine with Solar Arcs by other members feedback, its difficult for me to put into the correct words but I will try:
What a-lot of the old school astrological writers (pre 1900) wrote about secondary progressions is that no major secondary progression could bring to pass without that same Natal Chart configuration being seen in the Natal Chart. After 1900 Charles Carter in his “Principles of Astrology” discussed this issue more in depth. I tried to make sense with other charts what Carter was stating but could not prove the truth of the matter with other charts, including my own chart with secondary progressions---but I did see with more clarity with Solar Arc Directions.
Then, when the age of computers came into being and everyone’s exact individual Solar Arc rates could be determined, a whole new world of acute fated stuff in a Natal Chart was able to be seen as a WOW factor with Solar Arcs. I am not talking about the birth of brother & sisters, or marriages, this kind of stuff in normal, don't get me wrong--I know you work with methods which offer the timing of normal everyday stuff that happens in a life time. I am taking about the kinda of stuff that very rarely happens in a life-time---the kind of life altering stuff you can count on one hand in a lifetime. Think of it as a Super “outstanding incident” or a Super event which has the potential to change the entire course of one’s ordinary life. The German Schools of Astrology labeled these type events as “Co-Determents of Fate” and they dealt exclusively with Solar Arc Directions.
I have been real busy lately with major repair construction going on at our historical home, its very demanding on my time. When I can get this behind me, I will come back to this tread and attempt to explain better what I see and am trying to get a better handle on for better clarification for us all to examine with our own individual Natals. I am trying to set-up a specific experiment for us to discuss.
What a-lot of the old school astrological writers (pre 1900) wrote about secondary progressions is that no major secondary progression could bring to pass without that same Natal Chart configuration being seen in the Natal Chart. After 1900 Charles Carter in his “Principles of Astrology” discussed this issue more in depth. I tried to make sense with other charts what Carter was stating but could not prove the truth of the matter with other charts, including my own chart with secondary progressions---but I did see with more clarity with Solar Arc Directions.
Then, when the age of computers came into being and everyone’s exact individual Solar Arc rates could be determined, a whole new world of acute fated stuff in a Natal Chart was able to be seen as a WOW factor with Solar Arcs. I am not talking about the birth of brother & sisters, or marriages, this kind of stuff in normal, don't get me wrong--I know you work with methods which offer the timing of normal everyday stuff that happens in a life time. I am taking about the kinda of stuff that very rarely happens in a life-time---the kind of life altering stuff you can count on one hand in a lifetime. Think of it as a Super “outstanding incident” or a Super event which has the potential to change the entire course of one’s ordinary life. The German Schools of Astrology labeled these type events as “Co-Determents of Fate” and they dealt exclusively with Solar Arc Directions.
I have been real busy lately with major repair construction going on at our historical home, its very demanding on my time. When I can get this behind me, I will come back to this tread and attempt to explain better what I see and am trying to get a better handle on for better clarification for us all to examine with our own individual Natals. I am trying to set-up a specific experiment for us to discuss.

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Re: Solar Arc Directions
That's not really what they said, Steve. (It might be how you understood what they were saying.) The routinely repeated rule I think you mean to quote is that nothing can occur from a progression or direction that isn't already shown as a possibility in the natal.
Got it. Except... these have been quite mixed for me. The handful of "reroute the river" events have mostly shown well in solar arcs (mostly with tight orbs, but not all of them). OTOH, not all solar arcs that (theoretically) seemed that strong produced noticeable events. Also, a few of these "big five events" had essentially exact directions but they were not always symbolically clear (even in distant hindsight) how they fit - without forcing them.Then, when the age of computers came into being and everyone’s exact individual Solar Arc rates could be determined, a whole new world of acute fated stuff in a Natal Chart was able to be seen as a WOW factor with Solar Arcs... I am taking about the kinda of stuff that very rarely happens in a life-time---the kind of life altering stuff you can count on one hand in a lifetime. Think of it as a Super “outstanding incident” or a Super event which has the potential to change the entire course of one’s ordinary life.
Overall, then, if the test is, "Do solar arcs usually show for the top five change-the-river events"" the answer is yes, usually. If the test is, "Do similar big-deal solar arcs, e.g., angles to planets or planets to angles, always produce change-the-river events?" the answer is no, not at all.
My "list of five" change-the-river events (that weren't simply evolutions of other things already in motion, I suppose, would include the following (I had to trim a couple that I'd have included if I allowed myself more than Top 5, and one confidential event):
- Buying my first astrology magazine September 1968. dNe-rSa 13' (huh?!), but d Ju-Ur sq r Me (5', 11': midpoint 3') [yes!]
- Sudden decision to move to California June 5, 1975. dMC-rSu 10', dAs-rSu 24' [not what I would expect for this event, but I suppose creditable as an aspect that at least shows a major life-passage]
- Met my guru, setting in motion an entirely different branch of my life April 7, 1979. dSu-rMe 31' [fitting but wider than most], dPl-rMo 58' [quite accurate but barely in orb, d Mo-rSu 39' [again, very accurate and acceptable orb, but wide, not narrowly timing] - all symbolically sound but vague on timing
- Universe opened" and gave me my marching orders December 9, 1987. dMa to rVe-Pl (7', 6', midpoint 0') [obviously THE tightly timed aspect: I have to stretch to say the symbolism fit, certainly didn't squarely peg the type of event], dMo-rNe 51' (descriptive of the kind of excited mania I was in for a few days but very wide with timing not fitting later) - Hard to score this because the precision is impressive, but the symbolism is whacked; and transits showed it far, far better.
- Forced to leave my home for 40 years and severed relationships centered on December 12, 2014. dMC to r Ve-Pl (17', 4') [dead on! - d Asc same but much wider], dNe-rMC (0' - and it was on IC)
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Re: Solar Arc Directions
Hi Arena,
Re: "What does LA and AH stand for ODdOnLifeItself?"
As "SA" was solar arcs, "LA" is lunar arcs. Sorry I didn't state that. AH is Age Harmonics, which I referenced in the opening of my post. Since the list was broken down by event, it seemed (at least to me) that it would be interesting to make it more complete and include the lunar arcs and age harmonics, for contrast/comparison.
Re: "I would think semi and sesqi aspects do not apply. Better to focus on conjunctions, oppositions and squares only."
Way too many years of research are leading me immediately to think that would be foolhardy. Take a few events you have and throw up a 4th harmonic Uranian-style graphic ephemeris (so that you see transits, solar arcs, and progressions simultaneously) and note the "weather" around the event. Then, do the same thing, but with a 8th harmonic chart. It doesn't remove anything, it only ever fills in details. And...as you'll note, I highlighted the conjunctions/oppositions in my list, emphasizing strongly the 2nd harmonic.
Let's not have anything wrong here...I encourage everyone to use whatever methods they're comfortable with and (hopefully) find reliable for whatever they are trying to do with astrology. If you decide to list your solar arcs, by all means "focus on conjunctions, oppositions and squares only." If I leave it too lax, I feel like too many fish still escape through the larger netting.
Good luck!
Re: "What does LA and AH stand for ODdOnLifeItself?"
As "SA" was solar arcs, "LA" is lunar arcs. Sorry I didn't state that. AH is Age Harmonics, which I referenced in the opening of my post. Since the list was broken down by event, it seemed (at least to me) that it would be interesting to make it more complete and include the lunar arcs and age harmonics, for contrast/comparison.
Re: "I would think semi and sesqi aspects do not apply. Better to focus on conjunctions, oppositions and squares only."
Way too many years of research are leading me immediately to think that would be foolhardy. Take a few events you have and throw up a 4th harmonic Uranian-style graphic ephemeris (so that you see transits, solar arcs, and progressions simultaneously) and note the "weather" around the event. Then, do the same thing, but with a 8th harmonic chart. It doesn't remove anything, it only ever fills in details. And...as you'll note, I highlighted the conjunctions/oppositions in my list, emphasizing strongly the 2nd harmonic.
Let's not have anything wrong here...I encourage everyone to use whatever methods they're comfortable with and (hopefully) find reliable for whatever they are trying to do with astrology. If you decide to list your solar arcs, by all means "focus on conjunctions, oppositions and squares only." If I leave it too lax, I feel like too many fish still escape through the larger netting.
Good luck!
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Re: Solar Arc Directions
Re: "I think I need to clarify more what I am trying to determine with Solar Arcs by other members feedback, its difficult for me to put into the correct words but I will try..."
Well, if you can't define exactly what you were looking for, I guess we can't be surprised that I didn't see the goal posts and kicked a little wide.
The 3 major turning point times in my life were likely: (all astrology of solar arcs is 16th harmonic, but held to < 0° 3' of arc, because of this aspects aren't listed, we'll use the "=" for "equals some 16th harmonic aspectual contact")
The death of my Grandmother, which spawned a quick search for a maternal replacement and changed many elements of my life, including meeting my first wife online just after this time.
This is immediately shown through Venus = Moon (0° 2'). [which I am sure also relates to my seeing my one aunt, when she stayed in our home, after not seeing her for more than a decade...]
If I wanted to see more of the circumstance, I'd look deeper in the astrology...
Node = Sun/Moon (0° 1'), for meeting my soon to be online girlfriend and eventual wife.
Neptune = Jupiter/Uranus (0° 1'), (Witte) "Good fortune through death. Inheritance."
MC = Mars/Neptune (0° 0'), (Witte) "To experience failures and Losses. Sorrow on account of disease."
Uranus = Node/Mercury (0° 0'), for the excited foray into going online and meeting someone on a bulletin board service.
Flying to Germany to consummate my relationship and claim my Wife for my own, which separated me from my wife/family at the time and completely changed virtually every element of my life.
This is mostly shown through Jupiter = Neptune (0° 2'), for the overseas travel and the speculative nature of it. I call this time, "my 10 days of Camelot," which seems just right for Jupiter-Neptune.
Asc = Pluto/Node (0° 1'), (Witte) "Changes in the relations or connections cause changes in or of the place..." [In my best Chandler, "could it even BE more relevant?!"]
Moon = Mercury/Venus (0° 0'), "Youthful beauty. Female acquaintance." = Mars/Jupiter (0° 2'), (Witte) "The betrothed woman or girl."
Mercury = Venus/MC (0° 0'), for the easily made acquaintance.
Node = Venus/Uranus (0° 0'), (Witte) "To enter into love adventures."
Neptune = Saturn/Pluto (0° 2'), (Witte) "A divorce extending over a long time." (amen)
Moving to Germany permanently.
There are no real direct arcs that relate to that (and are in these hellacious orbs
)...though it could be seen to relate to solar arc Pluto square Ascendant (0° 23')...
Pluto = Asc/Vx (0° 2'), [freely speculate, but if you don't have transformation and autonomy in the sentence, re-write it.]
Jupiter = Moon/Ascendant (0° 0'), for travel/relocation and the positive, hopeful, horizon-being-broadened feel of the time.
In terms of duplication of natal aspects, in the first case (death of Grandmother, etc.), I don't have any Moon-Venus aspects natally. In the second case, I do have a Neptune-Jupiter trine from 5th to 9th, which fits a romance that leads to travel and relocation in terms of natal proclivity, so this of course would seem totally related.
Well, if you can't define exactly what you were looking for, I guess we can't be surprised that I didn't see the goal posts and kicked a little wide.

The 3 major turning point times in my life were likely: (all astrology of solar arcs is 16th harmonic, but held to < 0° 3' of arc, because of this aspects aren't listed, we'll use the "=" for "equals some 16th harmonic aspectual contact")
The death of my Grandmother, which spawned a quick search for a maternal replacement and changed many elements of my life, including meeting my first wife online just after this time.
This is immediately shown through Venus = Moon (0° 2'). [which I am sure also relates to my seeing my one aunt, when she stayed in our home, after not seeing her for more than a decade...]
If I wanted to see more of the circumstance, I'd look deeper in the astrology...
Node = Sun/Moon (0° 1'), for meeting my soon to be online girlfriend and eventual wife.
Neptune = Jupiter/Uranus (0° 1'), (Witte) "Good fortune through death. Inheritance."
MC = Mars/Neptune (0° 0'), (Witte) "To experience failures and Losses. Sorrow on account of disease."
Uranus = Node/Mercury (0° 0'), for the excited foray into going online and meeting someone on a bulletin board service.
Flying to Germany to consummate my relationship and claim my Wife for my own, which separated me from my wife/family at the time and completely changed virtually every element of my life.
This is mostly shown through Jupiter = Neptune (0° 2'), for the overseas travel and the speculative nature of it. I call this time, "my 10 days of Camelot," which seems just right for Jupiter-Neptune.
Asc = Pluto/Node (0° 1'), (Witte) "Changes in the relations or connections cause changes in or of the place..." [In my best Chandler, "could it even BE more relevant?!"]
Moon = Mercury/Venus (0° 0'), "Youthful beauty. Female acquaintance." = Mars/Jupiter (0° 2'), (Witte) "The betrothed woman or girl."
Mercury = Venus/MC (0° 0'), for the easily made acquaintance.
Node = Venus/Uranus (0° 0'), (Witte) "To enter into love adventures."
Neptune = Saturn/Pluto (0° 2'), (Witte) "A divorce extending over a long time." (amen)
Moving to Germany permanently.
There are no real direct arcs that relate to that (and are in these hellacious orbs

Pluto = Asc/Vx (0° 2'), [freely speculate, but if you don't have transformation and autonomy in the sentence, re-write it.]
Jupiter = Moon/Ascendant (0° 0'), for travel/relocation and the positive, hopeful, horizon-being-broadened feel of the time.
In terms of duplication of natal aspects, in the first case (death of Grandmother, etc.), I don't have any Moon-Venus aspects natally. In the second case, I do have a Neptune-Jupiter trine from 5th to 9th, which fits a romance that leads to travel and relocation in terms of natal proclivity, so this of course would seem totally related.
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