vran - Natal Chart Insight

[vran]

According to my birth certificate, I was born November 16, 1991, 2:15 AM, Zagreb, Croatia.

[Jim Eshelman]

According to my birth certificate, I was born November 16, 1991, 2:15 AM, Zagreb, Croatia.

Welcome to Solunars. Do you still live in Zagreb? Is there anything in particular you'd like to know about?

[vran]

Thanks! I live in a village called Gornji Hruševec near Velika Gorica. Well, not really... My life is pretty much living hell in general. Any insight would be highly appreciated!

[Jim Eshelman]

Let's start with some basics.

CONSTELLATIONS: Your Sun is in Libra and your Moon in Aquarius. Additionally, Sun is joined with (and tightly conjunct) too other Libra planets, so there is a strong emphasis. You can read about Sun in Libra and Moon in Aquarius at the following links:
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=35#p161
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=34#p152

Your only angular planet is Venus, about 6-7° below Ascendant. This reiterates many of the Libra Sun traits (since Venus rules Libra, i.e., their natures are similar). Venus foreground is discussed here: http://solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=38#p185
(But we will see a quite contrary spirit mingled with that in a moment, when we talk about your very strong Mars.)

For ASPECTS, I like to take these in a layered way. First, assimilate the basic core of Sun in Libra, Moon in Aquarius, and Venus rising. Now, add the closest, strongest aspects using interpretations here: http://solunars.com/viewforum.php?f=16 - I all of these, primarily pay attention to the first paragraph on the aspect.

First, you have a triple conjunction of Sun, Mars, and Pluto. Read these and make them all fit together. (It will sound different from your Libra and Aquarius placements, and might have made it quite easy for you to accept that you were a Scorpio instead of Libra.)

Mars-Pluto viewtopic.php?f=16&t=182#p123
Sun-Mars viewtopic.php?f=16&t=184#p1236
Sun-Pluto viewtopic.php?f=16&t=184#p1241

Next, your Moon has a very important aspect to Jupiter, and a supportive, softer aspect to Uranus (which will resemble your Aquarius Moon):

Moon-Jupiter viewtopic.php?f=16&t=184#p1245
Moon-Uranus viewtopic.php?f=16&t=184#p1247

Mercury aspects the Moon-Jupiter (more widely) so, after you understand everything up to this point, add the following.

Moon-Mercury viewtopic.php?f=16&t=184#p1242
Mercury-Jupiter viewtopic.php?f=16&t=182#p1214

Finally, your Venus I strongly, distinctly aspected. It ties into your Mars-Pluto (also your Sun, but there wasn't any need to mention that) and, especially, to Uranus:

Venus-Uranus viewtopic.php?f=16&t=182#p1223
Venus-Pluto viewtopic.php?f=16&t=182#p1225
Venus-Mars viewtopic.php?f=16&t=182#p1220

This should help you get started.

[Jim Eshelman]

My life is pretty much living hell in general. Any insight would be highly appreciated!

Can you say more about this, vran? Is this just in recent times, or has it been this way all your life?

You don't have a bad chart at all - quite the contrary. For example, Moon opposite Jupiter etc. is quite positive, and while Sun-Mars-Pluto can be scrappy and combative, it doesn't tend to give a bad life. On the other hand, your life would be more challenging in an environment that expects conformity and orthodoxy, because you aren't wired for that. You're a social idealist, with strong vision of how the world should be, how people should treat each other, etc. You're also highly sensitive to coercion, rejecting people's arbitrary ideas of how you should be and act, not terribly cooperative with rules - in other words, a bit of a rebel. I could see you getting yourself in trouble (not always a bad thing) for pushing on these limits and narrow standards. With your Venus aspects, I would expect your sexual choices and impulses to be part of what gets you in trouble with your society.

Is this the sort of thing that makes your life hell? Or other things? And, is it just a recent thing, or something basic to your life in general?

[Havana]

Jupiter in 12th house in Leo, you are a spiritual seeker! A grandiose man or an important woman!
Mercury in 3rd house - you're a gifted thinker! With Saturn in Capricorn in 5th house you could be quite exemplary - a teacher maybe! With Venus in Virgo in 1st house you could be a technician! (computer technician...) With Sun in Libra you could be a designer!
Gemini midheaven makes you idealistic, somewhat, and happy-thinking!
Good chart!
Saturn in Capricorns are steel-hard workers sometimes; softies other times. With Moon in Aquarius you could be a computer technician!
Jupiter is the singleton in the upper hemisphere (sole planet in the upper chart half), which creates in this individual, vran, a depression.
Your transits look non-important! (they don't stand out)
9th house in Taurus looks like a foreign traveller! Do you get to travel?
All in all, this is a good chart.
Mercury in Scorpio in 3rd house saves the chart.

[Jim Eshelman]

Havana, thanks, and welcome to Solunars.

Because this thread is an inquiry by someone brand new to the forum (vran), who likely came to learn something about Sidereal astrology, I need to make a clarifying statement.

Sidereal astrology has always had a tenuous relationship to houses. Starting from the premise of "don't use anything at all in reading a chart until you have substantial confirmation of its existence," Siderealists have shied away from houses most of the time. The evidence is too mixed and uncertain, too equivocal. Personally, I think there is more to houses than we (as a movement) have ever given credit, and yet I step lightly on the topic, and don't push what we don't have solid proof for (e.g., nowhere near the proof we have for planet meanings, constellations, angularity, and aspects).

Havana's brief interpretations are straightforward and free of the flamboyance that poisons most astrologers' use of houses. Without endorsing them per se, I have no problem with them being here, as another forum participant's contribution.

But I do want to make sure no casual reader of the forum thinks this is typical of Sidereal astrology.

I have a few more remarks below, but the above is the main thing I wanted to say.

Jupiter in 12th house in Leo, you are a spiritual seeker! A grandiose man or an important woman!
Mercury in 3rd house - you're a gifted thinker!

With Moon in Aquarius, he probably is indeed a gifted thinker House or no house.

With Saturn in Capricorn in 5th house you could be quite exemplary - a teacher maybe!

This is quite at odds with traditional treatment of the placement. (I'm not saying the traditional treatment is correct, just that this is far from typical.) The closest it might come (if we grant value to houses) is that the individual is authoritarian and dominating in temperament. A more typical approach would be that the Saturn house placement shows areas where one feels blocked etc.

Saturn in Capricorns are steel-hard workers sometimes; softies other times.

That's pretty general for a Saturn-sign - something that everyone born in a 2-to-3-year period has in common.

Jupiter is the singleton in the upper hemisphere (sole planet in the upper chart half), which creates in this individual, vran, a depression.

I'm quite skeptical of the Jones style planetary patterns. In any case, with a close Moon-Jupiter opposition we would expect exactly the opposite - it isn't a depressive aspect at all, and is generally quite upbeat and good-humored.

Mercury in Scorpio in 3rd house saves the chart.

What a strange comment LOL. The chart doesn't need saving IMO and, if those powerful Sun aspects do take it to far in one direction, the "salvation" is readily there from a strong Moon-Jupiter aspect and a rising Venus.

Nonetheless.. good to see people engaged in the discussion.

[vran]

Guys, I'll reply when I pull myself together!