Afflicted Jupiter

[Jim Eshelman]

Unfortunately, I have a great confirmation of an astrological principle - that you need to consider both the planet on an angle and how it's aspected. Fortunately, it is also an example of using astrology to anticipate and navigate potentially harmful waves of probability.

Marion and I have Moons in opposite signs, so we always have our lunars and demi-lunars within a day of each other. Several days ago, I looked ahead at her SLR and my Demi for yesterday. Her SLR is quite severe:

11°36' Sag Mars [1°21' above Asc]
13°24' Sag Asc
13°38' Pis Sun
13°50' Sag Saturn [0°17' above Asc]
26°09' Sag Pluto [9°55' below Asc]

2°21' Ari Uranus [0°31' past IC]
2°46' Ari Venus [0°02' before IC]
2°57' Ari IC

Notice that, besides the angularities themselves, aspects include:
Saturn-Uranus sq. 0°15' in mundo
Venus-Saturn sq. 0°19' in mundo
Venus-Uranus conj. 0°25' in eclipto
Mars-Uranus sq. 0°49' in mundo
Mars-Saturn conj. 1°04' in mundo
Venus-Mars sq. 1°23' in mundo

I was, of course, concerned about physical harm, especially an accident of some kind (aside from other possibilities). So, of course, I looked quickly at my Demi-SLR since anything big or severe happening to her would obviously have a big effect on me, too.

And, at first glance, my new Demi looked splendid (and the underlying SLR from two weeks earlier is fine). The main feature is:
27°29' Libra EP
27°33' Libra Jupiter [0°24' from EP]

Yes, my natal Mercury-Saturn is rising, and anything difficult was likely to be Mercury-related, though usually this natal aspect on the angle just means I'm far grumblier than circumstances seem to warrant, as frustrations build over a whole lot of little things that keep not going quite right.

So, I had a lot of relief - feeling a general sense of protection - until I looked one little bit further. Especially when I only see a single angular planet, and no interaction with others, I want to be sure I'm not missing hard aspects to it. Sure enough, this was not Jupiter at his best!

12°03' Sag Mars
12°33' Sag Jupiter semi-square
13°52' Sag Saturn
14°26' Pis Jupiter

Ugh. But what I expected from this was that whatever happened would cost me financially, and this would be the primary effect (and it would probably be a Mercury matter).

So, I advised Marion of the charts, suggesting a great deal of care. We looked for places in our lives that we were a bit out-integrity to find vulnerabilities (places we could be hit) and shored those up as best we could. Given the exact aspects involved, I advised her to be careful of certain relationships where there could be a misstep, but mostly to be careful concerning driving and the car in general.

Well... she called me yesterday morning. A thing happened with the car. I don't want to go into the whole complicated story, except to say that everybody is OK (no physical harm). Marion started dealing with it, and had an enormously stressful, demanding day. Meanwhile, the last 12-20 hours have cost me about $1,300, with the final tag probably aiming at around $2,000. (Damn, I should can think of better ways to get rid of $2,000!)

But we indeed feel fortunate because, of all things that could have happened that fit the charts, this is the best outcome - and about half the cost would have arisen eventually anyway (just not necessarily right now).

My Demi-SLR is right on target - provided you stop to notice that the sublimely angular Jupiter is very heavily afflicted - and what I got was (1) everything is ultimately OK with some sense of protection and ease, and (2) the effects of a heavily afflicted Jupiter in terms of costs.

PS - My new SLR in two weeks has the Mars-Saturn. I originally thought we might defer the events two weeks until we both were under the same harmful patterns, but it hit now. It's still possible there is more in two weeks, but we'll manage it in the same way. I get Mars closely, and Saturn more widely, on MC, with Sun and Uranus rising, the Sun-Mars-Uranus aspects being close mundanely - so yes, I'm planning to exercise care as April 13 approaches. Marion's Demi the day before has Jupiter exactly on WP... and yeah, but no longer octile malefics. She should have a pretty good fortnight, with her Sun rising etc. But, of course, her full SLR will still be in effect.

[Jupiter Sets at Dawn]

Sounds like nobody was hurt, or at least not much. That's good.

I know you don't drive, but when dealing with repair people, an apparently male voice generally gets faster service at a lower cost. Keep that in mind, just in case anything else happens.

[SteveS]

Very interesting Jim, I just noticed (and posted) that partile t. cnj Mars-Saturn afflicting Jupiter partile cnj my Natal Asc on championship game night and quickly decided to lay very low from a gambling standpoint.

[Venus_Daily]

It's funny you bring this up, this past SLR cycle has been literally hell for me with a Sun/Saturn square being on the angles across the Zodiac and in Mundo (MC/DSC). My mother had a debilitating stroke, and I returned the loan I received because of a major financial upset. I don't have any optimistic or harsh symbolism in my main SLR or DSLR, but I do have some optimistic symbolism with Jupiter on the Zenith for my KSLR, and Jupiter 3 degrees away from the MC in my DKSLR. The one thing is though, Jupiter in these charts, is receiving an exact sextile from Pluto, so, given the context, and last summer when I had such harsh upsets under the Jupiter/Pluto square, could I be in store for the same?

[SteveS]

Venus wrote:

The one thing is though, Jupiter in these charts, is receiving an exact sextile from Pluto, so, given the context, and last summer when I had such harsh upsets under the Jupiter/Pluto square, could I be in store for the same?

Sorry to hear about your Mother's stroke Venus. Your current SLR certainly offered appropriate symbolism for the incidents happening in your immediate environment. As far as your next SLR: Whenever I am confronted with SLR symbolism which I think is neutral, I always use Jim's ISR teachings looking to see if any natal planets are close to the return angles. Noting your next SLR, I note your natal Saturn is rising opposed SLR Venus. I suspect this will have residue effects with your Mother's stroke.

[Venus_Daily]

Thank you Steve, yeah, I went back and looked at the main one, but I was speaking about the Kinetic returns, main and demi. One has Jupiter angular (Zenith), and closely foreground (MC), but they're both partile aspecting Pluto.

[SteveS]

Venus, I have the same Jupiter-Pluto 60 aspect in my next two SLR's, with Jupiter tight cnj angles. I will try to remember to offer my personal account how this aspect manifested. My best cook book guide for the 'tone' of this aspect in return charts is Bradley's Solar & Lunar Returns. Do you have this book? I know this: Speaking to my psychic on behalf of a good friend, I was causally told I would be approached soon on a new business partnership by a new contact --but to decline this partnership, and I was told who the new person that would approach me on the partnership, and why I should decline this partnership. I asked no specific questions--only listen to what was told me.

Everyone's immediate environment is different. My next two SLR's have Jupiter on the Asc and then on the Dsc--so don't expect your Jupiter-Pluto to manifest with partnerships. We can at least compare and each take learning notes from each other with our individual lunar returns with this Jupiter-Pluto.