New fairly boring SLR

[Jim Eshelman]

I suppose I should post my recent fairly boring SLR. I always focus on the intense-looking ones, but maybe there is something different to learn from a pretty boring one.

My current SLR occurred June 6, and I've calculated it for my home.

The only foreground transiting planet is Mars, 4°22' above Ascendant. I thought no natal planets were angular, then noticed that natal Pluto, precessed to RA 152°56', is on WP (RA 151°03') within 1°53'. Though near the outskirts of its usual orb, this Pluto is the stronger voice of the two. (One might stretch the almost 3° Jupiter square to Ascendant, given how little else there is, but it's got to be pretty faint. At least this probably deflects it from being background.)

Given the absence of foreground aspects, other aspects likely will show with louder voices. I doubt the middleground 4°24' Moon-Mercury square will amount to much (and how could I tell, given my usual life?), but the middleground 0°02' Sun-Neptune square will likely be felt. (It would tend to get confused with the whole world having Sun-Neptune all week, but the precision makes it highly likely there will be discernible Sun-Neptune, and probably Sun-Mercury-Neptune.)

Partile aspects to natal planets are always important, but there aren't any.

If houses are valid in these charts as they sometimes seem to be, then the key expression would be Sun-Mercury in the 4th house square Neptune in the 1st (with Moon also in 1st). It would be a stretch to push too hard on any other positions.

[Mike V]

How has this turned out for you, Jim? I just stumbled across this post from about 2 weeks ago and I'm curious.

[Jim Eshelman]

I little of this, a little of that, and a whole lot of nothing in particular that matters.

[Jim Eshelman]

Of particular interest, though, is my Demi-SLR, which set up yesterday afternoon about 4 PM. It's a really good example of something that, in recent months, has become commonplace (now that we have tools to monitor it): That in mundo aspects of SLR planets to natal planets are important.

Tonight is the start of our Foundations of Sidereal Astrology class, the first time I've taught a public astrology course in decades. One nice factor is visible enough with purely ecliptical aspects, but strikingly exact if taken mundanely:

13°28' Libra SLR Asc
14°57' Libra r Saturn
17°20' Libra r Mercury
19°00' Libra t Jupiter

OK, nice, t Jupiter conjoins r Mercury too wide to be "in orb" just as a transit, but certainly close enough for an SLR, and it's moderately foreground.

Mundanely, it looks like this:

r Saturn 0°49' below Asc
r Mercury 4°54' below Asc
t Jupiter 5°08' below Asc

Yes, there is natal Saturn most angular, but what really catches my attention is that - after adjusting for precession - Jupiter's conjunction with Mercury is 0°14' in mundo.

The rest of the chart has several things, mostly pleasing and useful; but, given the event I know is happening in about five hours, I found the above quite interesting.

[Jim Eshelman]

I might as well use this thread to discuss the next (upcoming) SLR, which occurs July 4. This one (especially with natal planets, but also with transiting planets) is much more active. There is quite a lot happening, most of it visible in the mundoscope in a way that wouldn't be evident otherwise.

r Uranus on Asc -0°30'
r Jupiter on Asc -0°57'
r Sun on IC -1°19'
r Neptune sq. Asc 1°16'
t Sun on EP 1°17'
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r Mars on Dsc +5°03'
t Pluto on Dsc +7°05'
t Mars on Dsc -9°38'
t Mercury on Asc -9°58'

r Jupiter-Uranus conj. 0°17'
r Sun-Jupiter sq. 0°22' in mundo
t Mercury-Mars op. 0°28' in mundo
r Sun-Uranus sq. 0°49' in mundo
r Uranus-Neptune sq. 2°00'
t Pluto conj. r Mars 2°02' in mundo
r Jupiter-Neptune sq. 2°16'
r Mars-Neptune sq. 2°25'
t Pluto sq. r Sun 2°45'
r Mars-Uranus op. 4°24'
r Mars-Jupiter op. 4°43'
t Sun sq. r Sun 4°54'

Partile (or near-partile) non-foreground aspects of note:
t Jupiter conj. r Mercury 1°03'
t Mars sq. r Saturn 1°06'

[Jim Eshelman]

I think the strongest factors are these:

r Uranus on Asc -0°30'
r Jupiter on Asc -0°57'
r Sun on IC -1°19'
t Sun on EP 1°17'
r Neptune sq. Asc 1°16'

r Jupiter-Uranus conj. 0°17'
r Sun-Jupiter sq. 0°22' in mundo
r Sun-Uranus sq. 0°49' in mundo
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t Mercury-Mars op. 0°28' in mundo
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t Pluto conj. r Mars 2°02' in mundo
r Uranus-Neptune sq. 2°00'
r Jupiter-Neptune sq. 2°16'
t Pluto sq. r Sun 2°45'

[SteveS]

Jim wrote:

r Uranus on Asc -0°30'
r Jupiter on Asc -0°57'
r Sun on IC -1°19'
r Jupiter-Uranus conj. 0°17'
r Sun-Jupiter sq. 0°22' in mundo
r Sun-Uranus sq. 0°49' in mundo

Jim, do you agree as with your writings in ISR, these r factors tightly cnj your SLR angles is a dominating symbolic factor in how you will ‘react’ to the whole of your SLR?

[Jim Eshelman]

Yes. How I will react, or how I initially act - but basically what I "bring to the table" in contrast to the "outside" elements shown by transiting planets.

[SteveS]

Interesting Jim--keep us informed of what you see with these r manifestations.

[SteveS]

Jim, you included these 2 transits: t Pluto conj. r Mars 2°02' in mundo & t Pluto sq. r Sun 2°45' as part of the strongest factors for your July 4 SLR. Since this t. Pluto is a long term transit to your r Mars and r Sun, have you been feeling/experiencing the symbolism of these two transits now?

[Jim Eshelman]

Jim, you included these 2 transits: t Pluto conj. r Mars 2°02' in mundo & t Pluto sq. r Sun 2°45' as part of the strongest factors for your July 4 SLR. Since this t. Pluto is a long term transit to your r Mars and r Sun, have you been feeling/experiencing the symbolism of these two transits now?

The above SLR doesn't come in for a few more days but, to answer honestly rather than theoretically, I live in more or less continual awareness of Pluto square my Sun.

Given that they're foreground, they're quite close. Anything within, say, 5° kicks into gear when it's foreground.

[SteveS]

Jim wrote:

Given that they're foreground, they're quite close. Anything within, say, 5° kicks into gear when it's foreground.

I now understand why you are paying attention to this Pluto transit.

On another matter,the only time I pay attention to partile trines in return charts is when they are involved with angular planets. I note your SLR Sun 1,15 cnj EP partile 120 SLR Jupiter, with SLR Jupiter 1,03 cnj r Mercury. Let me know if you experience any symbolism with this angular combo. I realize you don't pay much attention to partile trines in return charts.

My current SLR has more time before it expires, but on the EXACT day (June 25th) of my current SLR my SLR Mercury partile cnj r Mars started very strong manifestations with very positive ways pertaining to "Powers of thought, the realization of thoughts and plans," pertaining to what my mind saw with SMA and NCAA Baseball Championship, which you know is a passion for my mind/soul. So far, I have not seen any negative effects of angular Sun-Saturn across horizon of SLR, but there is more time left for negative Saturn to manifest. Let me know if you see strong manifestations with your SLR Jupiter partile cnj your r. Mercury near/on the day of your next SLR.

[Jim Eshelman]

On another matter,the only time I pay attention to partile trines in return charts is when they are involved with angular planets. I note your SLR Sun 1,15 cnj EP partile 120 SLR Jupiter, with SLR Jupiter 1,03 cnj r Mercury. Let me know if you experience any symbolism with this angular combo.

OK, but that will be hard to differentiate from my natal Sun-Jupiter partile square exactly on the angles. (I never pay attention to trines and sextiles in lunar returns or in ingresses - which I think are the same variety of chart in most ways. If I did, I'd also consider Pluto sextile Moon.)

Let me know if you see strong manifestations with your SLR Jupiter partile cnj your r. Mercury near/on the day of your next SLR.

I'm sure the transit will work on its own regardless of any relationship to the return. Major transits simply work on their own

[SteveS]

Steve wrote:

Let me know if you see strong manifestations with your SLR Jupiter partile cnj your r. Mercury near/on the day of your next SLR.

Jim wrote:

I'm sure the transit will work on its own regardless of any relationship to the return. Major transits simply work on their own

Yes, I had in my mind Fagan's AA article about Janma-Rasi method of monthly prediction with SLR's which only apply to the faster moving transits out to Mars. I have been touched by Rasi's method and will open-up a new thread for discussion showing a couple of excellent examples. I an very interested in hearing from you with any noted manifestations with your next SLR.

[Jim Eshelman]

OK, sure. - I don't expect any unusual presence from this Jupiter transit as a part of the story of the SLR. I expect to feel it as a simple for the time it's partile, which is very flitting but intense - but that's separate from the SLR.

I guess I have never said this but, in general, I see a lunar return as telling a single story. Even if a number of similarly-themed events spill out of it, the chart is working as an integrated tale. If there are, say, 15 individual live factors in an SLR (aspects and angularities), that doesn't point to 15 events, but rather to one basic tale for the period.

From that perspective, it seems that all partile transits (at least the conjunctions, oppositions, and squares) are valid and need to be part of the story. They may manifest as "background details" (literally, right?), but they're in the story. In this case, though, Jupiter's transit to my Mercury isn't partile. It's 1°04' out. Maybe that's enough on the edge to pay attention to it but, in a chart with so much going on I doubt it would have much voice. (And in a chart with so much Jupiter going on, I don't know how we could tell it was this specific Jupiter aspect and not something else.)


On the other hand, the pure transit is quite interesting in a technical sense, and makes it quite easy to tell when its effects will probably peak.

My Mercury is 17°21' Libra. Jupiter is within a 1°00' orb of this for only three days, July 9-11. Not because it's moving so fast, but because it's moving so slow. Jupiter is stationary July 9 at 18°21' Libra.

It will be quite interesting to me to see how much of an effect there is from this in general. On the one hand, its barely partile, and we don't really know how firm that 1°00'00" threshold is. (It's surely a little flexible, since it's a gradient.) OTOH, this is a planetary station, and those are extremely potent.

It also should be giving a chance to study any possible effects of Ceres, but - as with all the Ceres monitoring I've been doing - I simply haven't seen anything that stood out, that I could identify with that transit.

Here are the exact positions for comparison, looking at the moment of the Jupiter station July 10, 10:02 AM PDT. I threw in a Mercury transit for good measure.

17°21'02" Libra r Mercury
18°20'56" Libra t Jupiter SD
19°02'30" Libra r Ceres
19°45'24" Cancer t Mercury

While it would be nice to have this occur a week earlier, on July 2 (when I get my annual performance review - and the new SLR isn't even active yet), it quite clearly centers on July 10 with the station.

[SteveS]

Jim wrote:

(And in a chart with so much Jupiter going on, I don't know how we could tell it was this specific Jupiter aspect and not something else.)

I clearly understand Jim, thanks.
Jim wrote:

On the other hand, the pure transit is quite interesting in a technical sense, and makes it quite easy to tell when its effects will probably peak. My Mercury is 17°21' Libra. Jupiter is within a 1°00' orb of this for only three days, July 9-11. Not because it's moving so fast, but because it's moving so slow. Jupiter is stationary July 9 at 18°21' Libra. It will be quite interesting to me to see how much of an effect there is from this in general. On the one hand, its barely partile, and we don't really know how firm that 1°00'00" threshold is. (It's surely a little flexible, since it's a gradient.) OTOH, this is a planetary station, and those are extremely potent.

IMHO, I think this Jupiter transit to your Natal Mercury will manifest within the context of your SLR particularly with your Natal Jupiter on the SLR Asc. I will definitely be paying attention to any specific manifestations you note.
Jim wrote:

it quite clearly centers on July 10 with the station.

Indeed, should be felt most potent.