We have birth times of just over half the ensemble cast of Friends, one of the tightest, most successful TV ensembles ever. One birth time that we don't have is Courteney Cox.
C.C. was born June 15, 1984 in Birmingham, AL, and has lived and worked in LA for years. To try to round out charts for the Friends cast, I spent a little time seeing if a likely birth time was easily discernible. I suggest, if you are interested, that you play with 3:45 PM.
Frankly, I don't recall seeing a possible birth time come together so fast. I spent a few minutes whipping through transits to Moon and lunar progressions and got a clear impression that Moon was 1-2° past its noon position. A trial chart for 2 PM kept looking like SLR angles were about one sign too early, so I went with 4 PM. Suddenly, for every major, unplanned, unscheduled event I tried, transits to the angles were decent and SLRs were in the ball park. Rolling back 15 minutes made the SLR or Demi-SLR for each of the events look fabulous (for phenomenal charts, try those for her father's death - they were very close - and for her daughter's birth, both while she was living in LA).
The resulting chart then looks pretty remarkable. It has some nice cross-person connections, e.g., she closest to Jennifer Aniston (her daughter's godmother) of all the former cast, and while Jen's Moon (birth certificate time) is opposite Courteney's Sun, Jen's Sun falls balances this by falling right on Courteney's rectified IC. Ex-spouse David Arquette's Sun is going to be near her Moon for any birth time that's, say, in the last half of the day (and here is 4° away), but nothing on her angles (Mars widely).
So, take a look: 3:45 PM, 'C' rated chart.
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Re: Courteney Cox
Astrotheme.com has 5.30 pm for her.
If that is right, it puts her ex-husband's Saturn on her DSC and his Jup-Nep not far from her ASC and his Venus partile her MC with his Sun a bit wider on her MC. His Sun within 3° from her Moon.
She later divorced Arquette and got together with John McDaid who is born 24th July 1976. With 5.30 pm birth time for Cox that would put his Nep on her ASC, his Mars on her Moon-Pluto conjunction and if he is born sometime during the mid-day he has his Moon on her Sun-Venus.
If that is right, it puts her ex-husband's Saturn on her DSC and his Jup-Nep not far from her ASC and his Venus partile her MC with his Sun a bit wider on her MC. His Sun within 3° from her Moon.
She later divorced Arquette and got together with John McDaid who is born 24th July 1976. With 5.30 pm birth time for Cox that would put his Nep on her ASC, his Mars on her Moon-Pluto conjunction and if he is born sometime during the mid-day he has his Moon on her Sun-Venus.
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Re: Courteney Cox
Thanks. Those don't seem very accurate descriptors. Do they give a source? (Astro.com has nothing at all.)
9I just looked. No source. Curious.)
9I just looked. No source. Curious.)
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Re: Courteney Cox
Jim, I was looking at her chart just now. Could it be that her date of birth is June 15, 1964 instead of the above? (I may be wrong)
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Re: Courteney Cox
Flo, you're right. It's a typo above (I'll fix it. - But the chart is correctly calculated for the 15th.
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No rational to your sentence: "Those don't seem very accurate descriptors."
Actually, the 5.30pm chart which shows us that her ex-husband having his Venus right on her MC as well as other planets on her angles seems a lot more likely than a chart with none of his planets coming to her angles.
Actually, the 5.30pm chart which shows us that her ex-husband having his Venus right on her MC as well as other planets on her angles seems a lot more likely than a chart with none of his planets coming to her angles.
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LOL, I missed the Venus and only saw the Saturn reference (read too fast) and the relationship was never that bad. Yes, David's Venus exactly on her MC makes good theoretical sense.Arena wrote: Thu Aug 30, 2018 1:22 pm No rational to your sentence: "Those don't seem very accurate descriptors."
Actually, the 5.30pm chart which shows us that her ex-husband having his Venus right on her MC as well as other planets on her angles seems a lot more likely than a chart with none of his planets coming to her angles.
Still, the event-fit is so tight for 3:45 that I'm not going to trade a sourceless birthtime - especially from Astrotheme, which is notorious for putting up nonsense times. It might be right, but there's no reason to assume it is when Astro.com (the primary birth data repository on the planet) has nothing at all and Astrotheme is well-known for posting nonsense (when they can't get something from Astro.com).
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