Hello. Looking for some guidance on the following topics:
1) Is there an Astrocartographer who provides services for relocation within a city? Tried google search/contacted several astrologers they replied back that they can only go by city at the most and not by specific location within a city. Specifically looking for someone who can drill deeper within city and help guide picking best location within a city.
2) If the natal lines are between 350 to 700 miles away, do they have their impact?
3) Can Local space lines be used in #1 topic above?
Attached the chart with natal lines. Blue star shows the location where influence has to be evaluated. Jupiter line does not go through USA.
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Relocation/Astrocartography
No, It's not finegrained enough for that. If you're 350 miles away from a line on the east side of a city, you might be 355 miles away on the west side if it's a big city. One degree of longitude at 40° latitude is 53 miles. If you take a 1° orb on your lines, you're looking at a 106 mile orb.True_North wrote: Thu Nov 22, 2018 11:00 am 1) Is there an Astrocartographer who provides services for relocation within a city?
See above, and decide for yourself.2) If the natal lines are between 350 to 700 miles away, do they have their impact?
Maybe. I'm not entirely convinced of their use. Others may have other opinions. You might as well try and see what you think.3) Can Local space lines be used in #1 topic above?
I deleted it. Too small to read, and no, please do not make a bigger one! Please give your birth data and location data (please give place names, not longitude and latitude.) We don't do charts the way most people do, and perfer to do our own so we can actually see them. Some of us don't do charts at all, but lists, so there's that.Attached the chart with natal lines.
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Re: Relocation/Astrocartography
One theory that has been floated - I don't have a clear opinion on it, though years ago I was shown a few very good examples - is what is called a Local Space Chart. A local space chart is an azimuth map oriented so that north is at the top. The application that would apply to your wishes is that you relocate your chart to the exact degree, minute, and second of longitude and latitude wherever you currently live and create the azimuth (Local Space) map for that exact spot. Overlay it on a physical map of your city. The planet lines flowing out show your relationship (from your current place) to other locations nearby (e.g., lucky in the direction your Jupiter is pointed, accidents in the direction your Mars is pointed, etc.).
I can't tell you whether this is valid or invalid, but several astrologers in the '80s were using this to plot navigation around their cities and - when they wanted a "new direction" in life - to find the geographic direction to start walking to find it.
Other than that, as JSAD said, Astro-cartography mathematically maps general areas within hundreds of miles, though there is some tendency for effects to get stronger as one gets exactly to a spot. More factors apply than the astrology, like local circumstances. I live where Venus is on IC in LA, and the exact spot (presuming my birth time is right to the second) where the line crosses is in Summerland, CA an hour and a half up the freeway. I've always found it pleasant to pass through there, get gas there, meet friends from another direction at the local coffee shop when we're going wine tasting farther north. But I could never live there. LA, with Venus to the nearest angle, is plenty great!
I can't tell you whether this is valid or invalid, but several astrologers in the '80s were using this to plot navigation around their cities and - when they wanted a "new direction" in life - to find the geographic direction to start walking to find it.
Other than that, as JSAD said, Astro-cartography mathematically maps general areas within hundreds of miles, though there is some tendency for effects to get stronger as one gets exactly to a spot. More factors apply than the astrology, like local circumstances. I live where Venus is on IC in LA, and the exact spot (presuming my birth time is right to the second) where the line crosses is in Summerland, CA an hour and a half up the freeway. I've always found it pleasant to pass through there, get gas there, meet friends from another direction at the local coffee shop when we're going wine tasting farther north. But I could never live there. LA, with Venus to the nearest angle, is plenty great!
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Re: Relocation/Astrocartography
JSAD and Jim: Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and opinions.
Re: Relocation/Astrocartography
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If you want to use the local space chart to lay over a city, you can go to astro.com to explore it in the extended charts.
In the "Round" charts you can cast your chart using the Azimuth house system, but that will show your chart with the MC / South on top of the chart, so you would need to flip it from South to North to place it correctly on a map.
You can also go to "Pullen/Astrolog" and choose "Local horizon chart polar coord." and you will see the chart with North on top and East to the left of the chart which is also wrong for a compass, so you would have to flip that one from East to West to place it correctly and use it to lay over a city you live.
You can also just note down the degree of the zodiac for your benefics and then use a normal compass placed with the centre in the city centre to see the neighbourhoods for those degrees. That's what I've found most useful.
As an example (looking at ecliptic chart), if I just use my natal chart then I see the city where I live has my Sun, Mercury, Mars conjunction in the NW on a compass map ... I live in the SE of the city and if you consider this as a line map, then this line runs close to the neighbourhood where I live. My street is on my Mercury-Mars conjunction. My natal Jupiter is to the South of my chart, slightly W (SSW). But some people who advocate this method say you should move towards the direction of the planets, but not to the opposite side.
One of my best friends here lives in my natal Neptune area. She recently came with me to an alternative health retreat and we are connecting on a deeper level exploring our spirituality and deeper meaning to life. She now wants me to do business with her and bring my own session to our own retreat at her place, an alternative approach to empowering women, awakening the inner spirit and alternative health!
However, if I change this view and use my relocated chart with the MC/IC in a different place, then this looks slightly different with Jupiter moving a bit closer to her house and I see her house falls in between my Jupiter and Neptune, although still closer to Neptune than Jupiter.
If you want to use the local space chart to lay over a city, you can go to astro.com to explore it in the extended charts.
In the "Round" charts you can cast your chart using the Azimuth house system, but that will show your chart with the MC / South on top of the chart, so you would need to flip it from South to North to place it correctly on a map.
You can also go to "Pullen/Astrolog" and choose "Local horizon chart polar coord." and you will see the chart with North on top and East to the left of the chart which is also wrong for a compass, so you would have to flip that one from East to West to place it correctly and use it to lay over a city you live.
You can also just note down the degree of the zodiac for your benefics and then use a normal compass placed with the centre in the city centre to see the neighbourhoods for those degrees. That's what I've found most useful.
As an example (looking at ecliptic chart), if I just use my natal chart then I see the city where I live has my Sun, Mercury, Mars conjunction in the NW on a compass map ... I live in the SE of the city and if you consider this as a line map, then this line runs close to the neighbourhood where I live. My street is on my Mercury-Mars conjunction. My natal Jupiter is to the South of my chart, slightly W (SSW). But some people who advocate this method say you should move towards the direction of the planets, but not to the opposite side.
One of my best friends here lives in my natal Neptune area. She recently came with me to an alternative health retreat and we are connecting on a deeper level exploring our spirituality and deeper meaning to life. She now wants me to do business with her and bring my own session to our own retreat at her place, an alternative approach to empowering women, awakening the inner spirit and alternative health!
However, if I change this view and use my relocated chart with the MC/IC in a different place, then this looks slightly different with Jupiter moving a bit closer to her house and I see her house falls in between my Jupiter and Neptune, although still closer to Neptune than Jupiter.