Lance's Friend KN

[Lance]

KN - female
July 2, 1979
Fort Worth, TX
2:39 PM

Sun: Gemini
Moon: Virgo
Mars: Taurus

Foreground: None
Background: Venus, Saturn, Neptune

Aspects:
Sun square Moon 1°59'
Sun sextile Saturn 0°50'
Moon sextile Jupiter 1°10'
Moon conjunct Pluto 4°07'
Mercury sextile Mars 1°25'
Venus semisquare Jupiter 0°29'

Second Order Aspects:
Mercury conjunct Jupiter 4°57'
Mars square Saturn 4°42'

5th Harmonic Chart:
Sun opposite Mars 0°21'

KN is wanting career advice. She is currently employed to ensure employees desired benefits match their insurance plans. She has been interested and partially educated in fields ranging from architecture, to seminary, to social psychology, to photography. She tests on the Meyers-Briggs as INFP/INTP, with career suggestions pointing to psychologist and professor. She's open to trying to finish a Master's degree, but she's not sure in what. She doesn't think she wants to try to go through all the work of a PhD. She doesn't want to teach.

I tried to focus her on anything she might consider her life purpose or as integral to her happiness and then work from there to finding careers where she could be at least somewhat involved in that. We spoke about how she may just need to find acceptable work and then work for self-fulfillment during her down-time. But even then, she just imagined herself basically going from flower to flower, so to speak, studying whatever current interests. Personally, I think that's fine, but I think she's still hoping for some kind of career move that is more satisfying.

In a situation like this, is there anything to be gleaned from her chart, or would you stick to personal history and career-testing? She doesn't seem to be drawn strongly to any particular thing (especially to it's actual work) other than continual learning about her own interests.

Thank you.

[Lance]

Also, what do you make of a Sun and Saturn aspect in a chart that also has Saturn backgrounded?

[Jim Eshelman]

All the career testing etc. is consistent with the chart. I might not have picked them all, but they're all consistent.

I'm primarily looking at the double-mercurial luminaries and, though nothing is foreground, taking a leap that the Gauquelin findings can be read as putting her in the Moon employment category. True or not, all conclusions I draw from that are consistent with what you've already cited. (There is also the Cancer MC, and findings from the Gauquelin data, processed as sign-placement, tending to show careers consistent with MC sign's ruler.)

I'm guessing that what works best for her in her current job is (1) the paperwork and data processing, though routine and boring, are no hassle for her and (2) it is primarily a people-service position. Social psychology, psychology, academics, photography are all consistent with the chart.

My original notes, jotted as I first looked at her chart, were:
* Mercuria, use mind etc. faculties
* Lunar: service, Moon G-group, using mind, people-connection
* Journalist? (an explicit statistical finding of some of these factors)'
* Easily bored at repetition - needs diversity
* Solitary? Convention-busting? How does her stationary Pluto fit in?

I do think it needs to be something CREATIVE, partly because the chart leans that way and partly because she would get bored at repetition and has to be constantly originating something.

[Jim Eshelman]

Also, what do you make of a Sun and Saturn aspect in a chart that also has Saturn backgrounded?

First, it's a different way to say Saturn is strong. It's a soft aspect, but a really close one. The theoretical "hook" in the distinction is (1) Sun-Saturn means Saturn is more a part of the ego structure or identity whereas (2) Saturn angular means more that it has easy expression.

I think, bottom line, the background keeps her from experiencing the world as fundamentally depriving or severe, while the Sun-Saturn makes her hardworking, etc.

For Sun sextile Saturn, my standard interpretation would be: Effective survivor, works hard, few luxuries; prefers modest accommodations. Authority & other parent-based issues to overcome. Serious; yet good sense of humor. Struggles with self-sufficiency can block progress; more inclined to reaction than action.

For Saturn angular, my standard interpretation would be: Needs to be self-reliant, self-sufficient, autonomous, independent; maturing is a process of securing these. Works hard, industrious. Survival instinct is strong & drives much of the behavior. Hardship likely (especially in youth); struggle for security; life’s demands seem severe (some are beaten down; some gain great strength & endurance). Cautious, emotionally reserved, self-protective, conscientious, methodical, austere (may shut others out emotionally). Beware self-restriction arising from fear.

Go with the first one (Sun-Saturn) and downplay the "life is tough" and struggle elements. Because it's a static aspect, there is more of a sense of stubbornness and digging in her heels than if it were a dynamic aspect, but I doubt the "struggles with self-sufficiency" is any more pronounced in her than any of the rest of us. Her Moon-Sun square energizes the psyche more than that.

[Jim Eshelman]

You may have seen this already but, just in case...

One might wonder why she is making this change or inquiry now. I think it is mostly restless and feeling like she has to make a change into something for its own sake, and especially move toward a larger psychological context for living her life.

She's 39, so next year is a decade birthday. The normal life-stage factors here are either dissatisfaction and a sense of, "If I'm going to do something else, I need to do it soon," or satisfaction of what has been accomplished and a need to boldly strike out to build on it or branch into something better suited to her and to now - both of these having the quality of abrupt change and voting for newness, renewal, etc.

This is fed by recent Uranus transits to her angles, and it will be coming back across her Westpoint over the next year. This is mostly all about Uranus.

Meanwhile, Saturn is opposing her Sun and then squaring her Moon. She's feeling time, space, and narrowing closing in on her, feels there has to be something more, feels the high demands the world is putting on her and struggling with how to have a breakthrough. These usually expand our capacity as we manage to handle vastly more than we could before, and the world looks larger with more opportunity as we expand our capacity. Again, the message is: More room, more autonomy.

[Lance]

Thank you for all the input.