SLR for the Outstanding Incident of my 2015 SSR

[TheScales_BothWays]

Originally posted by myself on Mon Sep 05, 2016 12:23 am
All times of posting here and below are in MYT/UTC+8.

I remember Stevie saying recently (and even before that) that in the 13 lunar returns that reign over a the year of an SSR, a few of them may have excellent partile angular and aspect symbolisms that may manifest into outstanding incidents of our lives.
In this romantically hectic year, nothing's been more "outstanding" so far but the very meeting of my Dallas "ex-crush" (is that even a word, for God's sake) online on my 16th birthday.
I am serious. I was deeply moved and and affected by it. My life goals immediately changed into moving to Dallas, meeting him there and starting a relationship with him. I had my first butterflies in my stomach. And hopefully my SLR for that event will be a sound testimony of that.

Enclosed below are the charts for my SLR for the "event" (25/9/2015, 11:35:11 am, Klang, Malaysia), my 2015 SSR and my natal as reference. My birth details are here.



So, as you can see, my 25/09/15 SLR features the following:
-SLR Jupiter squaring the Ascendant 0°16'
-SLR Neptune conjunct IC 0°51' in mundo.
-r./SLR Moon opposes Venus 0°15, 0°03' in mundo
-r.Venus and s.Venus conjunct SLR Jupiter 0°12' and 0°19 respectively
-r.Venus and s.Venus also squares SLR Ascendant 0°29' and 0°46' respectively
-SLR Jupiter conjunct s.Ascendant. Jim's mund.pag Solar Fire page says that SLR Jupiter rises when Asc is at 14°59' Leo.
-r.Pluto conjunct SLR Ascendant. Jim's mund.pag Solar Fire page says that my natal Pluto rises when Asc is in 15°02' Scorpio.

So I believe this is fine symbolism to a meeting of a lover. Moon-Venus symbolises the meeting of a lover, Venus-Jupiter symbolises the joy and happiness of meeting him, Neptune intensifies, dramatises and over-romanticises it, and natal Pluto is there for my internalised shock and bewitchment of meeting him. Also, check out what Bradley wrote about Moon-Venus symbolisms in luminary returns, especially the opposition:

t. MOON aspecting t. VENUS
Opposition: "gay abandon, stimulation of the erogenous zones of the body under the tender pressure of a romantic opportunity, and temptations aplenty." "...more often than not represents temptations which appear unexpectedly and cause great tumescence, but which vanish quickly into the mist."

Now would you look at that.

Notice that all the symbolisms here are partile. Oh, and as a curio, the SLR and SSR Ascendants partile 0°00' square each other.
Also, the occurrence of my 2015 SSR might've played a huge additional role in giving more partile hits and symbolisms. After all, this "event" did occur on my birthday.
Steve has also many times shared Jim's quote from his book, Interpreting Solar Returns:

It is when angularity and aspect partility coincide that outstanding incidents are most likely to come about.

So far, so many things have beautifully foretold my meeting of my Dallas crush, that it seems so fated and foreordained:
-My transits
-My 2015 SSR
-My Venus return operating on that day, which started on that day too
-This SLR
And it seems so disappointing that he (my Dallas crush) never knew about this, as if I'm "cursed" or something. Also disappointing is that I lost interest in him now. His loss, truly.
I'm still thinking whether I'm cursed or it's karma from my past life (since I honestly AFAIK I wasn't and am still not against any couple or gay couple in this life) or anything like that with such magnificent symbolisms of this meeting of my crush and yet all the inhibitions and the eventual loss of interest.

P.S. What do you guys think about this SLR?
P.P.S. Sorry for the long post and also sorry for posting yet another topic about my love life.

[TheScales_BothWays]

Jupiter Sets At Dawn on Mon Sep 05, 2016 1:35 am

So far, so many things have beautifully foretold my meeting of my Dallas crush, that it seems so fated and foreordained:
-My transits
-My 2015 SSR
-My Venus return operating on that day, which started on that day too
-This SLR
And it seems so disappointing that he (my Dallas crush) never knew about this, as if I'm "cursed" or something. Also disappointing is that I lost interest in him now. His loss, truly.

P.S. What do you guys think about this SLR?

Your transits, your SSR, your SLR... I think your crush wasn't a fated or foreordained great love affair because it wasn't about you and the Dallas person. It was only about you. Which is what is supposed to happen at your age. It's also supposed to be over quickly at your age. It's even symbolic - a great climatic event and then life gets back on an even keel. Real love is more of a gentle warmth than a raging fire for most people, and it probably will be that way for you too, eventually.

P.P.S. Sorry for the long post and also sorry for posting yet another topic about my love life.

There's no need to apologize. You're giving examples for you and other people to learn from. If it gets to be too much, Jim will let you know privately. So far, I doubt you're anywhere near in danger of that.

[TheScales_BothWays]

SteveS on Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:18 pm

Excellent SLR examples Scales, and JSAD is so right--our transits and return charts is about how the individual is reacting psychologically to his/her immediate environment. SLR's are usually independent charts but sometimes I have found Bradley's words from his book 'Solar & Lunar Returns' to hold astrological truth where he states:

...lunar returns usually "time" the major occurrences foreshadowed in the SSR.

Whenever I see a SSR involving partile aspects with one of the planets tight the angles, which according to Jim's teachings foreshadows 'outstanding incidents' and these incidents can only be psychological instead of major events, I have found many times a SLR with sharp angular symbolism will time when the symbolism of the SSR will manifest, either with individual psychological feelings or with a an "outstanding incident'/event, or both.

[TheScales_BothWays]

TheScales_BothWays on Mon Sep 05, 2016 10:19 pm

Your transits, your SSR, your SLR... I think your crush wasn't a fated or foreordained great love affair because it wasn't about you and the Dallas person. It was only about you. Which is what is supposed to happen at your age. It's also supposed to be over quickly at your age. It's even symbolic - a great climatic event and then life gets back on an even keel.

Sorry, I got carried away with feelings. My emotions were very volatile yesterday. I totally understand that this is only about me, and I actually rehearsed what to type but oh my incorrigible dramatic Neptunian self.

Real love is more of a gentle warmth than a raging fire for most people, and it probably will be that way for you too, eventually.

Hmm, yeah, maybe. Sigh.

There's no need to apologize. You're giving examples for you and other people to learn from. If it gets to be too much, Jim will let you know privately. So far, I doubt you're anywhere near in danger of that.

Well I don't know what Jim feels about this right now inside him, and that's why I feel a bit reluctant in sharing these things. But since you believe I'm nowhere near of any danger from my posts being too much, I feel better.

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Excellent SLR examples Scales, and JSAD is so right--our transits and return charts is about how the individual is reacting psychologically to his/her immediate environment.

Thanks. And oh, so transits and returns are mostly psychological. No wonder.

I have found many times a SLR with sharp angular symbolism will time when the symbolism of the SSR will manifest, either with individual psychological feelings or with a an "outstanding incident'/event, or both.

Oh well, so this is a chart of an "incident" instead of an "event" then.

[TheScales_BothWays]

SteveS on Mon Sep 05, 2016 10:48 pm

Incidents or major events, its relative, I have found most major events are foretold by our SSR's.

[TheScales_BothWays]

Jupiter Sets At Dawn on Tue Sep 06, 2016 1:00 am

Sorry, I got carried away with feelings. My emotions were very volatile yesterday. I totally understand that this is only about me, and I actually rehearsed what to type but oh my incorrigible dramatic Neptunian self.

I think I didn't make myself clear enough.

Excellent SLR examples Scales, and JSAD is so right--our transits and return charts is about how the individual is reacting psychologically to his/her immediate environment.

Thanks. And oh, so transits and returns are mostly psychological. No wonder.

That's what I meant when I said they weren't about you and your Dallas crush, but only about you. Not that you were reacting incorrectly somehow, but that your chart can only show what you are feeling in a situation, and can't describe other people's feelings.

[TheScales_BothWays]

SteveS on Tue Sep 06, 2016 5:49 am

To study astrology without understanding mental psychology is impossible.

Reinhold Ebertin

[TheScales_BothWays]

TheScales_BothWays on Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:43 pm

Thanks JSAD for your clarifications, and oh, Steve, thanks for the beautiful (and also clarifying) quote.