More economic collapses [Financial]

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More economic collapses [Financial]

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In addition to the very serious economic collapses we've already studied, there are lesser ones. I just read an article on "30 Times History Has Tanked the Stock Market." Here are a few other events I want to look into.

Full financial crises have been especially marked by angularities of Saturn, Neptune, and Pluto, and Moon aspects with Sun, Neptune, and Saturn. The most common foreground non-lunar aspects are Mars-Saturn and Saturn-Neptune, followed by a serious of obviously financial-themed aspects like Sun-Jupiter, Sun-Saturn, Mercury-Mars, and Mars-Uranus.

The Credit Crisis of 1772
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_of_1772
A partner in the Neal, James, Fordyce & Down banking house in London lost 300,000 pounds shorting East India Company stocks. On June 8, 1772 he fled to France and the firm collapsed, igniting panic in London. Confidence in the banking and credit systems crumbled. Twenty other banks fell like dominoes by late June. The crisis spread to other Scotland and (as a result of the East India Company being hit hard) the Netherlands. British colonies in America (especially in the South) were impacted because of the extensive credit debt they held on British banks. (Cascading consequences literally oled from this to the Boston Tea Party.)

The Panic of 1792
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panic_of_1792
March 9, 1792, NYC
Another credit crisis occurring in March and April 1792. The Bank of the United States (formed about a year earlier, in February 1791) raised money by selling debt. Concurrently, several prominent bankers undertook "rampant speculation" in which they "attempted to drive up prices of US debt securities and bank stocks, but when they defaulted on loans, prices fell, causing a bank run" in March 1792. (March 9 is when the first key banker stopped making payments.) Alexander Hamilton as Secretary of the Treasury led political and financial maneuvers that stabilized the market. New York seems to be the center of all the activity, and the difference from there to nearby capital Philadelphia would have been small.

The Gold Con: Black Friday 1896
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Friday_(1869)
During the Grant administration, two speculators, Jay Gould and James Fisk tried to corner the gold market. President Grant was selling U.S. It was a straightforward maneuver: Treasury gold was sold weekly to pay down the huge national debt and generally fuel the economy in the wake of the Civil War. Gould and Fisk (fortified with insider connections to the White House) persuaded the Secretary of Treasury to suspend U.S. gold sales, then bought all the gold they could from the New York gold market, driving up prices. Grant discovered what they were doing and ordered $4 million in gold be released September 24, 1869, plunging gold prices downward, smashing Gould and Fisk's scheme, triggering a months-long Wall Street panic which (thanks to Grant's steady handling) did not turn into a depression.

The Panic of 1901
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panic_of_1901
May 8, 1901, 1:00 PM, New York City
This first crash ever of the New York Stock Exchange began in a battle over control of the Northern Pacific Railway. There were no winners because, not long after the dust settled, the company was shut down under the trust-busting Sherman Antitrust Act of 1890. On May 8, 1901, the battle triggered a market crash with frantic panic to sell on the exchange floor. -- I probably need to research the fine point more before writing this up in detail, but this is enough to study it astrologically.

Florida's Real Estate Craze 1926
Florida's real estate bubble of the '20s, and part of its eventual collapse, is discussed here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_l ... _the_1920s
This started weakening in 1925 and, according to the above article, the pivot was then the sinking of the Prinz Valdemar in Miami harbor (you can read about it at the link). the 1926 Miami Hurricane in September further gutted the boom (followed by the Okeechobee Hurricane in '28, all on a path toward the Great Depression in 1929).

This doesn't seem like an event to study as part of a financial collapse, though I have a new shipwreck and hurricane to look into :) I'll skip this as a financial event. Here is the original newsfeed item that put me on its track: "A large migration to Florida in the 1920s increased the Sunshine State’s population; but the housing market couldn’t meet the demand, and property values swelled. The bubble burst and values shot down the same year as a massive hurricane, plummeting the stock market and establishing a precursor to the Great Depression."

Recession of 1937-38
https://www.federalreservehistory.org/e ... of_1937_38
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recession_of_1937–38
Described as May 1937 to June 1938. GDP dropped 10%, unemployment hit 20%. As recessions go, it was milder, but ill-placed as America thought it was coming out of the Great Depression. Probable causes were "a contraction in the money supply caused by Federal Reserve and Treasury Department policies and contractionary fiscal policies." The first article above goes into careful detail on how these conspired to create rapid deflation and general contraction.

There seems no exact timing to analyze in detail, but we can look at larger trends in, say, the solar ingresses in May 1937 and into the center of the next year.

The 1962 Kennedy Slide aka The Bear Market of 1962
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennedy_Slide_of_1962
This was a stock market decline from December 1961 to June 1962. Of six months, the S&P declined over 20%, the Dow 5.7% (which, at the time, was the second-largest point decline on record). Only after the Cuban Missile Crisis in 10/62 did the market fully recover.

Coming out of a period (post-depression and post-WW II) of rapid, vast economic expansion, the market suddenly reversed in December 1962, apparently as a natural correction to a decade of extreme growth. (This would seem to structurally resemble our current 2018 situation IMHO.)

The markers of this slide were a top in the S&P on December 12, 1961 that bottomed June 26, 1962 after a 28% drop. The market recovered and passed its prior peak a little about 14 month later on September 3, 1963.

1973-74 Oil Crisis
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973–74_s ... rket_crash
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis
In 1973, President Nixon ended the Eisenhower era oil quota system that had favored purchasing cheap foreign oil. America was buying most of its oil overseas with significant reductions in American oil production. Organized Middle Eastern oil-producing companies (OPEC) then increased prices.

Parallel this, in 1971 Nixon pulled the U.S. out of the Bretton Woods Accord which had linked the dollar to gold prices. With a newly "floating" dollar (which other countries soon copied), the value of the dollar fell against foreign currency. This undercut OPEC nation income (they got less real value for the dollars they were charging), so they linked their oil prices to a fixed amount in gold rather than in dollars, causing the cost to increase.

Net effect: Oil prices shot up in 1973-74.

On October 6, 1973, Egypt and Syria attacked Israeli-held lands (the Yom Kippur War). Six days later, Nixon announced rapid delivery of weapons to Israel. Then, on October 17, 1973, OPEC raised prices, cut oil production, and declared an embargo against Israel's allies including the U.S. This embargo (and further oil production cuts) had worldwide economic impact, forcing a recession until the embargo was withdrawn in March 1974.

Consequent to this, the U.S. stock market experienced a bear market from the start of 1973 until the end of 1974. Bretton Woods withdrawal was certainly a main component. The oil wars either were an additional cause or at least made the market drops more economically painful.

I should study the Yom Kippur War separately. As an economic event, this may be difficult to study because it had such global impact, but I will attempt to frame it as a U.S. event. U.S. GDP growth dropped from +7.2% to -2.1%. Inflation rate increased from 3.4% to 12.3%. The 1973 Capsolar should be pivotal in this, in theory. I have to spend more time digging through this to figure out what date might concentrate the drop (I haven't yet found a target date.)

The Early '90s Recession
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_1990s_recession
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_199 ... ted_States
I don't see much that is concrete to dig into here. The date range for the U.S. is July 1990 through March 1991. The 1990 Cansolar had a Jupiter-Saturn opposition across the horizon tied into Sun, as almost its only feature. Not much to see here.

The 2000 Dot-com bubble
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot-com_bubble
At the peak of the Dot-com craze, several leading technology companies (including Dell and Cisco) began selling their holdings in their own stock on March 10, 2000. Beginning the next day (March 11, 2000) and lasting until October 9, 2002, the Dot-com crash hit, costing the stock market 10% of its value in the early weeks and a total of $5 trillion in value before it was over. Giant companies failed. Cisco and Qualcomm barely survived. Venture capital that had poured into startups with unprecedented ease for years now evaporated. By the end of the two and a half year bear market, NASDAQ has dropped to 22% of its previous value.

The 2010 One-Man Flash Crash
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Flash_Crash
This one is timed! On May 6, 2010, beginning at 2:32 PM EDT (lasting until 3:08), one man spoofed the stock market into dumping a trillion dollars. It was brief: Major marks crashed and sprang back almost at once. But, for a minute, the collective "everyone" was a trillion dollars poorer.

The Dow dropped nearly 1,000 points in minutes when Navinder Singh Sarao spoofed the market with fake sell orders that would manipulate stock outcomes to his advantage. After this happened, a lot of new rules were implemented to keep it from happening again.

2018 Inflation Scares
After a short drop beginning at the State of the Union address in late January, the period February 1-8 especially had sharp drops of about 2,700 points. The Dow dropped over 3,200 points (about 12%) before turning around and recovering three-fourths of the losses, then fell another 680 points in the last two days of February.

I think it too early to start examining the current market cycle. Nonetheless, it is worth noting that these drops marked some predictive successes. In particular, for the January 15 Capsolar we forecast a year of hardship, narrowing, and loss, and that recession was not unthinkable.
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Jim wrote:
Here are a few other events I want to look into.
Looking forward to you looking into these collapses.
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The Credit Crisis of 1772

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_of_1772
June 8, 1772, London (no particular hour)

A partner in the Neal, James, Fordyce & Down banking house in London lost 300,000 pounds shorting East India Company stocks. On June 8, 1772 he fled to France and the firm collapsed, igniting panic in London. Confidence in the banking and credit systems crumbled. Twenty other banks fell like dominoes by late June. The crisis spread to other Scotland and (as a result of the East India Company being hit hard) the Netherlands. British colonies in America (especially in the South) were impacted because of the extensive credit debt they held on British banks. (Cascading consequences literally led from this to the Boston Tea Party.)

The charts range from rather good to rather poor. They improve, though, if we think of this as partly a financial crisis and partly a theft, since the crisis was triggered by someone losing a ton of money on a bad investment then scooting out of town to avoid debt payment.

Year: Capsolar {+1}
Uranus on Dsc 0°11'
Saturn on MC 3°59'
Moon-Mars sq. 1°58'
Moon-Sun sq. 2°48'

Bridge {?}
t Saturn sq. Cansolar MC 0°24' 5/6-7/4
t Jupiter conj. Capsolar IC 0°25' 5/17-7/25
t Jupiter op. Cansolar Asc 1°23' 5/28-7/14
Event window: May 28 to July 4

Quarter: Arisolar {-1}
Venus on Dsc 1°00'
Mars very widely foreground [sq. non-ang. Uranus 2°41' in mundo]
Moon-Pluto op. 1°14'
Moon-Sun sq. 1°29'
-- Sun-Pluto sq. 0°15'

Month: Caplunar {+2}
Jupiter on EP 1°49'
-- op. non-ang Neptune 3°42' in mundo
-- sq. NA Sun 0°45'
-- sq. NA Mercury 1°02'
Moon, Venus, Saturn, Pluto more widely foreground
-- Venus-Pluto op. 1°04' in mundo
-- Jupiter-Saturn op. 1°38' in mundo
Moon-Pluto conj. 0°25'
Moon-Mars sq. 2°30'
-- Mars-Pluto sq. 2°05'

Week: Canlunar (Dormant.)
Moon-Pluto op. 0°39'
Moon-Mars sq. 1°20' in mundo

Week: Arilunar {+2}
Mercury sq. Asc 0°11' [sq. NA Neptune 0°31']
Saturn on Ac 3°22'
-- Mercury-Saturn sq. 2°36'
[/I]Jupiter on Dsc 4°05'
Uranus on MC 6°49'[/i]
-- Ju/Sa on horizon 0°21'
-- Jupiter-Uranus sq. 2°43' in mundo
Moon-Venus sq. 0°22' in mundo
Moon-Pluto sq. 0°31' in mundo
-- Venus-Pluto op. 0°09' in mundo
-- Venus-Pluto op. 2°50' PVP
Moon-Mars conj. 3°04'

Day: Capsolar Quotidian & Transits {-1}
p EP conj. t Mars 0°25' [Venus sq. Mars 0°30']
p Asc sq. t Jupiter 0°49'
-----------------------------------
t Jupiter conj. s IC 0°25'

Day: Cansolar Quotidian & Transits {+2}
p MC sq. t Pluto 0°17', sq. s Sun 1°00'
-- t Pluto op. s Sun 0°43'
p EP op. s Pluto 0°44'
-------------------------------------
t Saturn sq. s MC 0°24'
t Jupiter op. s Asc 1°23'


SUMMARY
Year: Uranus (Saturn). Moon-Sun Moon-Mercury.
Bridge: Jupiter (Cap). Jupiter Saturn (Can).
Quarter: Venus (Mars). Moon-Sun Moon-Pluto (Mars-Uranus).
Month: Jupiter (Moon Venus Saturn Pluto). Moon-Mars Moon-Pluto (Sun-Jupiter Mercury-Jupiter Jupiter-Neptune).
Week (Canlunar): (Dormant.) Moon-Mars Moon-Pluto.
Week (Arilunar): Mercury (Jupiter Saturn Uranus). Moon-Venus Moon-Mars Moon-Pluto Mercury-Saturn Venus-Pluto Ju/Sa Jupiter-Uranus (Mercury-Neptune).
Day (Capsolar): Mars Jupiter (Venus-Mars) (CapQ). Jupiter (transit).
Day (Cansolar): Sun Pluto Sun-Pluto (CanQ). Jupiter Saturn (transit).
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The Panic of 1792

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panic_of_1792
March 9, 1792, NYC

Another credit crisis occurring in March and April 1792. The Bank of the United States (formed about a year earlier, in February 1791) raised money by selling debt. Concurrently, several prominent bankers undertook "rampant speculation" in which they "attempted to drive up prices of US debt securities and bank stocks, but when they defaulted on loans, prices fell, causing a bank run" in March 1792. (March 9 is when the first key banker stopped making payments.) Alexander Hamilton as Secretary of the Treasury led political and financial maneuvers that stabilized the market. New York seems to be the center of all the activity, and the difference from there to nearby capital Philadelphia would have been small.

These charts are really good!

Year: Capsolar {+3}
Neptune on Asc 0°06'
Jupiter on Asc 0°14'
Mercury on IC 0°22'
-- Jupiter-Neptune conj. 0°03'
-- Mercury-Neptune sq. 0°29' in mundo
-- Mercury-Jupiter 0°37' in mundo
Moon-Pluto op. 1°52' in mundo

Bridge {+2}
t Neptune op. Cansolar MC 1°04' 9/22-7/14
t Neptune conj. Capsolar Asc 0°29' 1/12-11/30
t Jupiter conj. Capsolar Asc 1°38' 1/12-28, 3/3-4/12
Event window: January 12-28, March 3 to April 12

Month: Caplunar {?}
Probably excellent: occurred 2/19, covered the excessive speculation
Venus sq. MC 1°23' [sq. non-ang Jupiter 1°46' in mundo, Neptune 0°43' i.m.]
Moon sq. MC 1°24'
-- Mo/Ve sq. MC 0°00'
Saturn more widely foreground
-- Moon-Venus conj. 1°08' in mundo
Moon-Neptune sq. 0°26' in mundo
Moon-Jupiter sq. 2°54' in mundo
-- Jupiter-Neptune conj. 2°29' n mundo

Week: Canlunar (Dormant.)

Week: Arilunar {+3}
Occurred 2/25: Look at this!!! Speculation & the fall.
Saturn on MC 2°35'
Venus on Dsc 2°45'
Neptune sq. Asc 0°29'
Jupiter sq. Asc 1°08'
-- Ju/Ne sq. Asc 0°18'
-- Jupiter-Neptune conj. 1°37'
-- Venus-Neptune sq. 2°56'
-- Jupiter-Neptune tightly squares non-angular Mercury, Uranus, & Pluto in mundo
Moon more widely foreground

Day: Capsolar Quotidian & Transits {+2}
p MC conj. s Mars 1°47'
-------------------------------
t Neptune conj. s Asc 0°29'
t Jupiter conj. s Asc 1°38'

Day: Cansolar Quotidian & Transits {+2}
p MC op. p Mars 0°44', s Mars 1°11'
-----------------------------------------
t Neptune op. s MC 1°04'


SUMMARY
Year: Mercury Jupiter Neptune. Moon-Pluto Mercury-Jupiter Mercury-Neptune Jupiter-Neptune.
Bridge: Jupiter Neptune (Cap). Neptune (Can).
Month: Moon Venus (Saturn). Moon-Venus Mo/Ve Moon-Jupiter Moon-Neptune (Venus-Jupiter Venus-Neptune).
Week (Canlunar): (Dormant.)
Week (Arilunar): Venus Jupiter Saturn Neptune. Venus-Neptune Jupiter-Neptune Ju/Ne (Mercury-Jupiter Mercury-Neptune Jupiter-Uranus Jupiter-Pluto Uranus-Neptune Neptune-Pliuto).
Day (Capsolar): Mars (CapQ). Jupiter Neptune (transits).
Day (Cansolar): Mars (CanQ). Neptune (transits).
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:shock: Jim, this is the best SMA (Capsolar-Master Chart of the Year) example of angular Jupiter-Neptune timing “rampant speculation” I have ever witness!!!

Ebertin says about Jupiter-Neptune combos:
Principle: Speculation
Sociological Correspondence: Speculators
Probable Manifestation: (+) The tendency to speculate, gain without effort. (-) A poor speculation, losses.
And again we see angular Neptune as a classic signature for ‘Panics,’ which you identified with your most excellent Report on Financial Panics. And a huge Bingo for the daily CapQ with t. Neptune on the Capsolar Asc! Another ‘God All Mighty’ moment for me by witnessing this Capsolar example. Another striking SMA example proving the Ancient Hermetic axiom “As Above, So Below.” And when the Mundane Astrologer reflects on this SMA example, we realize this event for the USA was prophesied long before the event took place using New York City as the financial center of USA in 1792. Simply amazing—fills me with awe, particularly realizing I was born with a rising Jupiter octile Neptune partile 90 the Vertex axis, which certainly explains the reason a-lot of my adult career life was centered around certain ‘speculative’ ventures. Great example Jim, thanks for posting.

NYC 1792 Capsolar. Look at that partile cnj of Jupiter-Neptune on the Asc!
https://imgur.com/a/SNstfOH
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I knew you'd love it! 😂

One small thibg. We cant use DC. The city of Washington on wasnt built for almost another decade. The US capital was either still in NYC or back in Philadelphia, i forget which.
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Jim wrote:
One small thibg. We cant use DC. The city of Washington on wasnt built for almost another decade. The US capital was either still in NYC or back in Philadelphia, i forget which.
Yes, my mistake, I will edit the chart I posted.
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I just checked. By 1791 the U.S. capital was back in Philadelphia (after briefly being in New York). That gives a Capsolar Asc in 1792 of 6°25' Libra. However, these events were all occurring in New York, so the 7°07' Libra Asc (and the fiercely tight Mercury-Jupiter-Neptune angularities and mundane aspects) are quite impressive.
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Jim wrote:
I just checked. By 1791 the U.S. capital was back in Philadelphia (after briefly being in New York). That gives a Capsolar Asc in 1792 of 6°25' Libra. However, these events were all occurring in New York, so the 7°07' Libra Asc (and the fiercely tight Mercury-Jupiter-Neptune angularities and mundane aspects) are quite impressive.
Indeed, very impressive!
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The Gold Con: Black Friday 1869

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Friday_(1869)
September 24, 1869, Washington, DC [using noon; no specific time]

During the Grant administration, two speculators, Jay Gould and James Fisk tried to corner the gold market. President Grant was selling U.S. It was a straightforward maneuver: Treasury gold was sold weekly to pay down the huge national debt and generally fuel the economy in the wake of the Civil War. Gould and Fisk (fortified with insider connections to the White House) persuaded the Secretary of Treasury to suspend U.S. gold sales, then bought all the gold they could from the New York gold market, driving up prices. Grant discovered what they were doing and ordered $4 million in gold be released September 24, 1869, plunging gold prices downward, smashing Gould and Fisk's scheme, triggering a months-long Wall Street panic which (thanks to Grant's steady handling) did not turn into a depression.

Year: Capsolar [+1]
Pluto sq. Asc 1°00' [sq. non-angular Mars 2°41' in mundo]
Moon-Sun conj. 2°22'
Moon-Mercury conj. 1°23' in mundo

Bridge {+2}
t Pluto sq. Capsolar Asc ALL YEAR
t Uranus on Cansolar angles ALL YEAR
t Neptune conj. Cansolar MC 7/15-9/27
Event window: July 15 to September 27

Quarter: Cansolar {+2}
Neptune on MC 0°21'
Uranus on EP 0°35'
-- Uranus-Neptune sq. 1°34'
Moon, Sun, & Venus more widely foreground
-- Moon-Sun sq. 1°48'

Month: Caplunar {+1?}
Sun on Asc 0°23'
Moon-Venus sq. 1°02' in mundo
Moon-Uranus op. 1°43'

Week: Arilunar (Dormant.) Moon-Mercury Moon-Venus Moon-Uranus.
NB - Sun is 3°12' below Dsc, so this is a close call. The main aspect of interest is Mercury opposite Neptune in the moderate foreground.

Day: Capsolar Quotidian & Transits {+2}
p Asc op. t Mercury 0°06'
p MC op. s Uranus 0°35', sq. s Neptune 0°59'
p EP conj. t Neptune 0°53'
-------------------------------
t Pluto sq. s Asc 1°37'
t Venus conj. s IC 0°01'

Day: Cansolar Quotidian & Transits {+2}
p EP conj. s Mars 1°12'
----------------------------
t Uranus sq. s MC 0°57'
t Neptune conj. s MC 1°56'

SUMMARY
Year: Pluto. Moon-Sun Moon-Mercury (Mars-Pluto).
Bridge: Pluto (Cap). Uranus Neptune (Can).
Quarter: Uranus Neptune (Moon Sun Venus). Moon-Sun Uranus-Neptune.
Month: Sun. Moon-Venus Moon-Uranus.
Week: (Dormant.) Moon-Mercury Moon-Venus Moon-Uranus.
Day (Capsolar): Mercury Uranus Neptune (CapQ). Venus Pluto (transits).
Day (Cansolar): Mars (CanQ). Uranus Neptune (transits).
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The Panic of 1901

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panic_of_1901
May 8, 1901, 1:00 PM, New York City

This first crash ever of the New York Stock Exchange began in a battle over control of the Northern Pacific Railway. There were no winners because, not long after the dust settled, the company was shut down under the trust-busting Sherman Antitrust Act of 1890. On May 8, 1901, the battle triggered a market crash with frantic panic to sell on the exchange floor. -- I probably need to research the fine point more before writing this up in detail, but this is enough to study it astrologically.

Year: Capsolar {0}
Mercury sq. Asc 0°53', on IC 1°50'
Sun on IC 3°06'

NOTE: The Cansolar was more severe, probably a bigger player in this one.

Bridge {+3}
t Saturn sq. Capsolar Asc 3/23-5/30
CanQ Moon-Neptune sq. 4/26-6/15
t Neptune sq. CanQ Moon 3/27-6/22
-- Moon-Neptune 3/27-6/22
t Uranus sq. Cansolar Moon 4/24-6/17
Event window: Apr 24 to May 30

Quarter: Arisolar (Dormant.)

Month: Caplunar {+2}
(I find the Mars presence esp. interesting since I described this as a BATTLE FOR CONTROL.)
Mars on WP 1°24'
Moon-Sun sq. 1°41'

Week: Liblunar {+3}
Neptune on Dsc 2°48'
Jupiter (stationary) on EP 0°15' [sq. non-ang Mercury]
Saturn sq. MC 1°15'
-- Jupiter-Saturn conj. 1°58' in mundo
Uranus more widely foreground
Moon-Mercury op. 3°51'

Day: Capsolar Quotidian & Transits {-1/+2 = +2}
p MC op. t Sun 0°20', t Venus 1°42'
p Asc conj. s Sun 0°22'
------------------------------
t Saturn sq. s Asc 1°13'

Day: Cansolar Quotidian & Transits {+2}
p Moon-Neptune sq. 0°32'
t Neptune sq. p Moon 0°13'
p MC op. s Sun 0°36'
p Asc conj. t Mercury 1°40'
----------------------------------
t Uranus sq. s Moon 0°34'
(t Pluto sq. s Moon 1°02')


SUMMARY
Year: Sun Mercury.
Bridge: Saturn (Cap). Uranus Neptune x2 (Can).
Quarter: (Dormant.)
Month: Mars. Moon-Sun.
Week: Jupiter Saturn Neptune (Uranus). Moon-Mercury Jupiter-Saturn (Mercury-Jupiter).
Day (Capsolar): Sun x2 Venus (CapQ). Saturn (transit).
Day (Cansolar): Sun Mercury Moon-Neptune x2 (CanQ). Moon-Uranus (transit).
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So many of these were caused by either somebody doing something underhanded like Jay Gould, or wild speculation, like the Florida housing boom/bust. They all sound like Neptune washing out the foundation and while Jupiter tries to build something on the sand that's left to me.
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Exactly JSAD!

Let me offer a forewarning to me with the wisdom of my next 2019 SSR, link # 1. Featured is a Moon-Jupiter-Neptune T-square. If this 2019 SSR was not backed-up with my Natal Saturn-Pluto cnj occupying my 2019 SSR IC (seen in link # 2), I would consider a serious speculative $ venture under the right circumstances with certain former contacts. But no way would I consider a sizable speculative $ venture with anything under this Natal Saturn-Pluto on an angle of a SSR. I will let my mind dive into small recreational $ speculative things for fun, but damn sure nothing serious.

1: https://imgur.com/a/3LmM0Y1

2: https://imgur.com/a/A8AHBfA
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Or... wouldn't you rather go somewhere like Virginia Beach or Richmond for your birthday and make your investment decisions there? You'd have these guys on the angles all year, and specifically on the angles for when you made the choices.

In the worst case, Moon-Jupiter-Neptune on the angles should make for a great birthday getaway.

Your Jupiter squares SSR MC for Richmond, overwhelming the weaker (fairly distant) natal Saturn-Pluto at that point.
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Re: More economic collapses

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:) I hear you Jim. If I can find a good vacation venue (preferably a musical venue) on my b-day getting that t-square on the angles, yes, I would definitely consider, but would only consider a speculative $ venture with one of my close contacts with their $ relied on my experience as a speculator, with me payed a % fee, only if I was successful with their $. My fixed income does not make it practical for me to consider a serious speculative venture for myself. And their is one huge problem! I see no way at my age to get properly get set-up in the right manner with right floor contacts on the Chicago Board of Trade, in order to time certain trades. My keen speculative days have passed me with old age in a different age. :(
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Jim, took a look at Richmond :) . If possible/practical I will relocate 2019 SSR to Richmond and I will experiment and see what comes my way for the 2019 solar year. There are some speculative seeds which have already been planted by my colleague and I about a possible new 'Concept' Theater opening in Warner Robbins Georgia in 2019. Will be very interesting if this happens in the Autumn of 2019. I have no $ stake in this possible Theater, only a-lot of time invested in helping my colleague manifest this possible Theater. If it manifests, I will be paid according.
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Recession of 1937-38

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https://www.federalreservehistory.org/e ... of_1937_38
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recession_of_1937–38
Described as May 1937 to June 1938. GDP dropped 10%, unemployment hit 20%. As recessions go, it was milder, but ill-placed as America thought it was coming out of the Great Depression. Probable causes were "a contraction in the money supply caused by Federal Reserve and Treasury Department policies and contractionary fiscal policies." The first article above goes into careful detail on how these conspired to create rapid deflation and general contraction.

There seems no exact timing to analyze in detail, but we can look at larger trends in, say, the solar ingresses in May 1937 and into the center of the next year.

1936 Cansolar
This was an economically rough chart that was surely a big part of the setup. The May 1937 general start date for the recession did occur in the year of this Cansolar.

Saturn on Dsc 1°04'
Moon, Jupiter, and Neptune more widely foreground
-- Jupiter-Neptune sq. 0°55'
-- Saturn-Neptune sq. 2°36' PVP

1937 Capsolar
This was dormant, so the 1936 Cansolar really did have a whole year to itself.

The Arisolar, immediately before the downturn, also was dormant, though it had severe marks of crisis and loss.

Moon-Mars op. 0°46'
Moon-Saturn sq. 1°10' in mundo

Since the Libsolar was also dormant, the Cansolar gets the whole show to itself other than the igniting lunar aspects in the Arisolar, immediately before the crisis.

1937 Cansolar
Venus on Dsc 1°27'
-- Sun-Jupiter op. 1°46' PVP
-- Venus-Jupiter sq. 2°08' PVP
Neptune more widely foreground
Moon-Uranus op. 3°05'

I do not see how this chart, which continued the recession until its end (since the next Capsolar is dormant), is descriptive. It seems quite inflationary, not to mention happy!

1937 Libsolar
Mars on EP 0°13' [conj. non-ang Jupiter 3°56' in mundo]
Moon sq. Asc 0°46'
Mercury on MC 3°04'
-- Moon-Neptune 0°49'
-- Mercury-Mars sq. 2°01' in RA
-- Moon-Venus op. 3°33'

This interrupted the Cansolar as Quarter chart. It's tone is a little panicked, a bit of a crisis. I think what we are seeing here (in Mars-Jupiter and Mercury-Mars) are the pro-expansion recovery efforts underway to reverse the recession. Mars on an angle, a "nervous Nellie" afflicted Mercury angular, and Moon-Neptune show the popular anxiety.

1938 Capsolar
This is dormant, but with Moon opposite Mercury (1°12') and square Saturn (2°03'). This kept the Cansolar in power (which is puzzling, given its portents) but added Moon-Saturn which, by itself, shows hardship.

1938 Arisolar
Mars on Asc 0°03'
Mercury, Venus, Uranus, and Pluto more widely angular
-- Venus-Uranus conj. 0°54' in mundo
-- Venus-Pluto sq. 1°51' in mundo
-- Uranus-Pluto sq. 2°45' in mundo
Moon-Saturn op. 1°01' in mundo
Moon-Sun op. 3°09'

If we look at it as a chart during the recession, it fits - it is severe. However, if we look at it as the quarter under which government efforts ended the recession, then it is harder to justify.

1938 Cansolar
Though the recession was technically over a month before the Cansolar appeared, this doesn't mean people were already doing well or that their anxiety had abated. There is plenty of anxiety shown, but also a distinctive mark of recovery in Moon-Jupiter.

Neptune on Dsc 0°43'
Moon, Venus, & Jupiter widely foreground
-- Moon-Venus conj. 0°14' in mundo
-- Moon-Jupiter conj. 1°11' in mundo
-- Venus-Jupiter op. 1°25' in mundo
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The 1962 Kennedy Slide / Bear Market of 1962

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kennedy_Slide_of_1962

This was a stock market decline from December 1961 to June 1962. Of six months, the S&P declined over 20%, the Dow 5.7% (which, at the time, was the second-largest point decline on record). Only after the Cuban Missile Crisis in 10/62 did the market fully recover.

Coming out of a period (post-depression and post-WW II) of rapid, vast economic expansion, the market suddenly reversed in December 1962, apparently as a natural correction to a decade of extreme growth. (This would seem to structurally resemble our current 2018 situation IMHO.)

The markers of this slide were a top in the S&P on December 12, 1961 that bottomed June 26, 1962 after a 28% drop. The market recovered and passed its prior peak a little about 14 month later on September 3, 1963.

I think the date to examine is 12/12/61, with a working time of noon. Charts are for Washington, but may need reexamination for NYC. Notice this was in the months coming out of a Jupiter-Saturn conjunction in Capricorn, which we will have again in a couple of years.

Year: Capricorn
Uranus on Dsc 1°04'
Venus sq. MC 1°23' [op. non-ang Pluto 2°43']
Moon-Pluto sq. 2°09'

With Uranus setting etc. a lot happened this year, especially in the Space Race (from both sides of the globe) and Cold War escalations. From economics, I think this shows the possibility of shock but, primarily, that most of the year was a party-atmosphere good time in the finance world.

Severity appeared mid-year with the Cansolar. Saturn exactly rose, opposite Sun across the horizon. Jupiter also rose, but was weaker than Saturn (and just became a reinforcement that this was an economic issue). The second half of the year was certainly economically riskier (and harder on the president's popularity) than the "honeymoon" first half shown by the Capsolar above.

Much of the effect feel in the following year. The 1962 Capsolar is dormant, but with an inflationary, expansive Moon-Jupiter-Neptune T-square world-wide.


Bridge
t Pluto conj. Cansolar Moon 10/10-2/15
t Saturn conj. Cansolar Asc 11/3-12/19
t Mars conj. Capsolar Moon 12/11-14
Event horizon: December 11-14

Quarter: Libsolar
Pluto sq. MC 0°40'
Uranus on Dsc 3°53'
Moon-Jupiter conj. 0°36' in mundo
Moon-Mercury sq. 2°22'

This shows a clear shock. Moon aspects are extremely positive, though. I think this is reinforcing that this is a correction, i.e., that the shock came from the consequences of high optimism. (I might be off the mark on that, though.)

Month: Caplunar
The market topped December 12, meaning it started going down the next day and picked up speed in the weeks following. Two days before the top, a new Caplunar shows a kind of adrenaline-triggering crisis.
Mars sq. Asc 0°11'
Sun sq. Asc 1°18'
Uranus & Pluto widely foreground
-- Ur/Pl on Dsc 0°38'
-- Sun-Mars conj. 1°07'
-- Mars-Uranus sq. 1°34' in mundo
Moon-Saturn conj. 3°10'

Day: Capsolar Quotidian & Transits
I will be interested whether this shows mostly as the day of the top, i.e. optimistic, or the start of decline, i.e., pessimistic.
p MC conj. s Neptune 0°02', t Neptune 1°20'
p Asc conj. s Jupiter 0°38'
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t Mars conj. s Moon 0°38'

(Looks like the optimists won, but with the crisis coming in the back door.)

Day: Cansolar Quotidian & Transits
p Asc op. t Saturn 1°01', s Saturn 1°52'
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t Saturn conj. s Asc 1°13'
-- t Saturn conj. r Saturn 0°52'
t Pluto conj. s Moon 0°01' {!!!!!!!}
t Venus sq. s Moon 0°39'


SUMMARY
Year: Venus Uranus. Moon-Pluto (Venus-Pluto).
Bridge: Mars (Cap). Saturn Pluto (Can).
Quarter: Pluto (Uranus). Moon-Mercury Moon-Jupiter.
Month: Sun Mars (Uranus Pluto). Moon-Saturn Sun-Mars Mars-Uranus Ur/Pl.
Day (Capsolar): Jupiter Neptune (CapQ). Mars (transit).
Day (Cansolar): Saturn (CanQ). Venus Saturn Pluto (transits).
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The Dot-com Bubble pops

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot-com_bubble

At the peak of the Dot-com craze, several leading technology companies (including Dell and Cisco) began selling their holdings in their own stock on March 10, 2000. Beginning the next day (March 11, 2000) and lasting until October 9, 2002, the Dot-com crash hit, costing the stock market 10% of its value in the early weeks and a total of $5 trillion in value before it was over. Giant companies failed. Cisco and Qualcomm barely survived. Venture capital that had poured into startups with unprecedented ease for years now evaporated. By the end of the two and a half year bear market, NASDAQ has dropped to 22% of its previous value.

Though the tipping point was the peak at close of March 10 (a Friday), I think the critical day was Monday, March 13, when news that Japan was again in recession triggered a worldwide sell-off that impacted tech stocks as well as others. I'll check start of New York trading on March 13.

This bust occurred at the exact - to the day - peak of a Capsolar progressed Moon-Saturn conjunction!

May 13, 2000, 9:30 AM, New York City

Year: Capsolar
Mars on Asc 2°55'
Pluto on MC 4°44'
Venus on MC 5°58'

-- Ve/Pl on MC 0°37'
Moon-Saturn conj. 0°53' in mundo

NOTE: There is no formal reason to check the Cansolar, but it's about as perfect a chart for a technology stock bust as I can imagine. For those motivated, I suggest you set it up for New York City, July 17, 1999, 2:13:29 PM EDT.

Bridge {+2}
t Neptune sq. Cansolar Asc 7/21-7/17
CapQ Moon conj. s Saturn 12/30-4/12
t Saturn sq. Cansolar MC 11/2-3/18
t Jupiter conj. Cansolar Dsc 3/3-22
Event window: March 3-18

Month: Caplunar {+1}
Neptune on IC 0°18'
Jupiter on Dsc 2°48'
-- Jupiter-Neptune conj. 2°31'

Week: Arilunar {+3}
(Saturn & Neptune rule! And there is no better bubble-popper than Saturn-Uranus.)
Saturn sq. MC 0°08'
Neptune on Asc 0°15'
Jupiter on Dsc 1°57'
-- Jupiter-Neptune sq. 1°21'
Uranus is more widely foreground
-- Saturn-Uranus sq. 0°06'
-- Ur/Ne on IC 0°47'
Moon-Mars conj. 3°33'

Day: Capsolar Quotidian & Transits {+3}
p Moon conj. p Saturn 0°10'
p MC sq. p Moon 0°24', p Saturn 0°34'
p EP conj. t Saturn 0°27'
p Asc sq. t Mercury 0°28'
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t Mercury conj. s Asc 1°28'

Day: Cansolar Transits {+2}
t Neptune sq. s Asc 0°38'
t Saturn sq. s MC 1°30'
t Jupiter conj. s Dsc 0°04'
-- Jupiter-Neptune sq. 0°34'


SUMMARY
Year: Mars (Venus Pluto). Moon-Saturn Ve/Pl.
Bridge: Saturn (Cap). Jupiter Saturn Neptune (Can).
Month: Jupiter Neptune. Jupiter-Neptune.
Week: Jupiter Saturn Neptune (Uranus). Moon-mars Jupiter-Neptune Saturn-Uranus Ur/Ne.
Day (Capsolar): Moon Mercury Saturn x2 Moon-Saturn (CapQ). Mercury (transit).
Day (Cansolar transits): Jupiter Saturn Neptune. Jupiter-Neptune.
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Very impressive SMA charts Jim.
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The 2010 One-Man Flash Crash

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Flash_Crash
This one is timed! On May 6, 2010, beginning at 2:32 PM EDT (lasting until 3:08), one man spoofed the stock market into dumping a trillion dollars. It was brief: Major marks crashed and sprang back almost at once. But, for a minute, the collective "everyone" was a trillion dollars poorer.

The Dow dropped nearly 1,000 points in minutes when Navinder Singh Sarao spoofed the market with fake sell orders that would manipulate stock outcomes to his advantage. After this happened, a lot of new rules were implemented to keep it from happening again.

Even the aspects for the day paint an interesting picture of financial manipulation. Saturn opposed a Jupiter-Uranus conjunction.

Year: Capsolar
Mercury sq. Asc 2°00' (stationary)
Saturn on Asc 3°30'
Pluto on IC 5°42'

-- Mercury-Saturn sq. 0°07' in mundo
-- Saturn-Pluto sq. 0°50'
-- Mercury-Pluto conj. 1°46'
Moon-Sun conj. 1°28'
Moon-Venus conj. 2°15'

Bridge {+1}
t Uranus sq. Cansolar Asc 1°37'

Quarter: Aries {+1}
Moon on WP 0°55'
Sun on WP 2°16'
-- Moon-Mars 2°51 in mundo

Month: Caplunar {+2}
Neptune sq. Asc 0°36'
Sun & Venus widely angular
-- Sun sq. non-angular Mars 0°03'

Day: Capsolar Quotidian {+1}
p Asc conj. s Mercury 1°59'
p MC op. t Mercury 1°36'
p EP conj. p Moon 0°56', p Venus 1°40'
-- p Moon conj. p Venus 0°59'

Day: Cansolar Quotidian & Transits {+2}
p Asc conj. p Uranus 0°55', op. p Saturn 0°01', s Uranus 1°47'
-- Saturn-Uranus op. 0°55'
p MC sq. t Uranus 0°06', sq. t Saturn 0°48'
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t Uranus sq. s Asc 1°37'


SUMMARY
Year: Mercury (Saturn Pluto). Moon-Sun Moon-Venus Mercury-Saturn Mercury-Pluto Saturn-Pluto.
Bridge: Uranus (Can).
Quarter: Moon Sun. Moon-Mars.
Month: Neptune (Sun Venus). (Sun-Mars).
Day (CapQ): Moon Mercury x2 Venus. Moon-Venus.
Day (Cansolar): Saturn Uranus Saturn-Uranus (CanQ). Uranus (transit).
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Re: More economic collapses

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This has been a really worthwhile exploration IMHO. I'm unclear, though, how (or even whether) to incorporate these examples into the SMA book. These events are a different type than the financial disasters already catalogued, which means that they will probably produce different statistical pictures rather than deepening what we've already found. As a start, I want to see just how different these are and perhaps draw some conclusions.

Here's what we see in the above six usable events.

12 Neptune
12 Jupiter
10 Saturn
8 Mars.
7 Sun
7 Mercury
6 Venus.
6 Uranus
5 Pluto
1 Moon

6 Moon-Pluto
5 Moon-Sun
5 Moon-Mercury
5 Moon Venus.
4 Moon-Mars
3 Moon-Uranus.
3 Moon-Saturn
3 Moon-Neptune
2 Moon-Jupiter

Taken by themselves, these events have a distinctive pattern: Jupiter and Neptune dominate, with Saturn close behind, indicating the extent to which they are speculation-based events with negative outcomes. Among Moon aspects, Moon-Pluto lead for these crises; Moon-Jupiter is the decisive last place, exactly as we might expect.

Comparing these to the (generally far more serious) financial panics previously studied, we see similarities and differences. For those, Saturn, Neptune, and Pluto predominate. The current said introduces Jupiter in a way that is consistent with the events. Also, for panics in general, the most common Mon aspects are with Sun, Neptune, and Saturn. These are quite different (except that Moon-Sun is prominent here, in second place). For the present events, Moon-Pluto - a solid, singular punch! - appears and Moon aspects with Saturn and Neptune are rolled back.
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Re: More economic collapses

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If we combine the above new events with the previously tracked ones, are the statistical outcomes altered? That is, are the sufficiently similar types of events that they can be collated?

For angular planes, there is no non-trivial change in the final ranking except that Jupiter is moved higher on the list, from 8th most angular to land in the top four. However, Saturn and Neptune remain clearly in the lead:

35 Saturn
31 Neptune
24 Mars
24 Jupiter
22 Uranus
22 Pluto
19 Sun
14 Moon
17 Mercury
17 Venus

Among Moon aspects, the one change is that Pluto is propelled from 5th place to tie Sun and Saturn for first place:

16 Saturn
16 Sun
16 Pluto
14 Mercury
14 Neptune
12 Jupiter
11 Mars
10 Venus
8 Uranus

Probably these can be collated.
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