Jim Eshelman wrote:One answer to "who feels it more" rests in the answer to another question: Which of the two people has more powerful feeling responses in general? (Some people feel
everything strongly - some don't.)
I've tried to make clear in the synastry interpretations when there is a one-sided tendency on this, and on many cases there is not a difference. For example, Moon-Neptune seems bilateral (which might not be a surprise, given the nature of the planets). Sun-Moon is reciprocal. (Most of these are probably reciprocal
ultimately - but they may not seem that way all the time in practice. For example, with Mercury-Mars,
both parties argue, though one usually can see a bias of which one is more likely to pull the verbal attack from the other. Moon-Mars seems mutually passionate and mutually pain-inflicting, but it isn't at all perfectly bilateral at root, since a major characteristic is the Mars person doing everything possible to draw an
emotional response from the Moon person. Etc.)
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Venus, though, is
the one who loves - the expression (outflow) of love. And I've had enough Venus-to-angle interchange relationships in life to know that it is quite reliable that Venus easily, deeply, smoothly loves the angle, with no guarantee built into the relationship of whether the angle will ever feel that way as well. Most often, there are other aspects in play that tell the rest of the story. Also, people naturally respond to being actively loved and shown affection, and that's what angle is getting from Venus, so there will be that sort of natural response. But, in a big sense, as long as we are only talking about this one interchange, there is nothing to suggest any response from angle at all.
My "personal history" synastry spreadsheet has 11 women that have had some significant (longterm or brief) personal relationship importance to me, where my Venus sits on their angle. Of these 11, five fall in the "very special" group, including my first wife and my current mate (with whom I've been for several years), another woman I lived with (for a surprisingly short time, in retrospect) and loved deeply, and two women I dated a non-trival length of time and with whom I had very intense emotional and sexual relationships. In fact, Venus is not
gentle only in any of these; all were among the most sexual intense relationships of my life. The other six were all briefer relationships, with at least four of them having clear, easy affection, but nothing overwhelming or enduring. (I was out of contact with all but one of them almost immediately on ceasing to be actively connected, and, with the one who remains a Facebook friend, I don't really know where any of the others are today.)
So there's a range, but the lowest level is "honest affection," and the best is "marry her, fast!" (or the equivalent).
Obviously, in the first five I mentioned, there was/is two-way love. This was shown in different ways. For example, I not only have Venus on my first wife's Ascendant, she has a 4' Venus-Jupiter conjunction within a degree of opposite my Moon and close to my Descendant (bilateral Venus-angle.
In contrast, I have a list of five women where their Venus is on one of my angles. Two of these are in the "significant" category - my first wife, mentioned above, and the only one-night encounter I've ever put in the top category: For years to follow, I rated that one night as the most powerful, overwhelming sexual experience of my life. And yet, I can't at all say I loved her at all. (We were friendly, and I certainly
appreciated her, but that was all.) Of the other three were, one was a two-direction Venus-angle, another (who stayed friends for years and I cared about more than a little) had many powerful interchanges, and the final one was of no long-term consequence or even short-term affection beyond friendliness.
Venus does the loving - the powerful, desiring, enraptured-by-the-other loving.
TheScales_BothWays wrote:Jim Eshelman wrote:TheScales_BothWays wrote:Transit-wise, you wouldn't feel anything if the transiting angles conjunct your r.Venus, but you'd feel great if tr.Venus conjuncts your natal angles!
You mean like the way
you don't feel anything just because some quotidian angle hits your Venus?
*Mouth held agape*
Uh..um..uh..Jim..I have no words to say. You know how to talk alright. LOL
Well, yeah, it's what I do <g>.
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