Malaysian Airlines Flight 17

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Thu Jul 17, 2014 11:26 am
A Malaysian airliner reportedly with 295 people on board has crashed in Ukraine near the Russian border, on a flight from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur according to a tweet from Malaysian Airlines at 10:36 AM - 17 Jul 2014 There is a huge plume of smoke being shown on the news.

Don't know what time zone that tweet shows, The location is near the city of Kremenchuk.

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A Malaysian airliner reportedly with 295 people on board has crashed in Ukraine near the Russian border, on a flight from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur according to a tweet from Malaysian Airlines at 10:36 AM - 17 Jul 2014 There is a huge plume of smoke being shown on the news.

Don't know what time zone that tweet shows, The location is near the city of Kremenchuk.

Yeah, I started a discussion here as well: Link to 2014 Cansolar

Using the take-off site, the charts are totally "second verse, same as the first."

Last word I have is that they don't actually know where it went down, only that they last had contact over eastern Ukraine. (But if there is smoke, it's probably actually there.) Since it was Malaysia Airlines, I think they should start the search in Chicago.[/quote]

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Looking for today at Kremencug, I notice (quick look):

Caplunar has Neptune < 2° from Eastpoint.
Capsolar has Venus-Pluto 1-2° from Ascendant opposite Moon half a degree from Descendant.
Mercury transits Capsolar Descendant today
CapQ Asc squares Capsolar Saturn

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There are photos of pieces of a fuselage showing the Malaysian flag on the ground in the Ukraine being shown on Twitter, and Russia or Russian leaning forces have been shooting down Ukranian jets over the last month or so.

It may be Russia has shot themselves in the foot.

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Most of the films of the plume of black smoke are coming from the town of Shakhtyorsk in Ukraine.

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Most of the films of the plume of black smoke are coming from the town of Shakhtyorsk in Ukraine.

Got a time for this yet?

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Malaysia Airlines has just released the following statement:

"Malaysia Airlines confirms it received notification from Ukrainian ATC that it had lost contact with flight MH17 at 1415 (GMT) at 30km from Tamak waypoint, approximately 50km from the Russia-Ukraine border.

"Flight MH17 operated on a Boeing 777 departed Amsterdam at 12.15pm (Amsterdam local time) and was estimated to arrive at Kuala Lumpur International Airport at 6.10 am (Malaysia local time) the next day.

"The flight was carrying 280 passengers and 15 crew onboard.

"More details to follow."

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So... July 17, 2014, 14:15 UT, Shakhtyorsk, Russia

Details to follow...

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So... July 17, 2014, 14:15 UT, Shakhtyorsk, Russia

Shakhtyorsk in Russia is in Sakhalin Oblast, listed as 142E6. I think this can't be right. (It's on Russia's east coast.) I think this must mean Shakhtersk, Ukraine, near the Russian border48N03, 38E28, though this isn't all that close to Kremencug (49N04, 33E25). What location shall we use?

CNN is now saying it came down "near Torez in the Donetsk region."

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[NOTE: The following is a first effort. With better geographic coordinates, I recalculated all of this, in a later post in this thread.]

July 17, 2014, 5:15 PM EEDT, Torez, Ukraine 48N01, 38E37.

We don't get to count the (not very helpful) Cansolar, because the Sun was at 29°59'10" Gemini.

PRECIS
Solar: Venus, Jupiter, Pluto (Moon, Sun, Mercury). Moon-Venus-Pluto.
Lunar: Neptune.
Day: Saturn, Pluto.

Year: Capsolar
Moon-Pluto conj. (0°34')
Venus-Pluto conj. (1°21')
Moon-Venus op. Venus (1°55')
-- Jupiter rises (1°30')
-- Venus rises (1°40')
-- Pluto rises (3°01')
-- Moon sets (3°35')
Sun rises (7°15')
Mercury on EP (2°41')

Year: Cansolar
Pluto on IC (0°44')
Uranus sets (3°35')
Mercury on MC (3°40')
-- Mercury-Uranus square (0°05' in mundo)
Jupiter on MC (6°03')
Mars on IC 8°23')

This chart is extremely important! It shows the Cansolar valid from 365d 5h 46m earlier, with the Sun less than 1' from entering Cancer anew... but the old chart was still valid. This is an excellent example of the idea that Sidereal ingresses have no "cusp" or "bleed." The Mercury-Uranus 5' square on the angle is especially characteristic of aircraft disasters BTW.

Quarter: Arisolar
The Arisolar is dormant.

Month: Caplunar
The Caplunar appears dormant until we look at the Mundoscope... and confirm that Neptune is only 2°26' below Ascendant.

Day: Capsolar Quotidian & Transits
CapQ MC op. t. Saturn (1°47')
t. Pluto conjunct Capsolar Asc (0°06')

Day: Cansolar Quotidian & Transits
CanQ EP op. s. Uranus (0°24')
CanQ MC op. t. Pluto (0°44')


SUMMARY
Year (Capsolar): Venus, Jupiter, Pluto (Moon, Sun, Mercury). Moon-Venus, Moon-Pluto, Venus-Pluto.
Year (Cansolar): Pluto (Mercury, Mars, Jupiter, Uranus). Mercury-Uranus.
Quarter: (Dormant.)
Month: Neptune.
Day (Capsolar): Saturn (CapQ). Pluto (transits to Capsolar).
Day (CanQ): Uranus, Pluto.

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This chart is extremely important! It shows the Cansolar valid from 365d 5h 46m earlier, with the Sun less than 1' from entering Cancer anew... but the old chart was still valid. This is an excellent example of the idea that Sidereal ingresses have no "cusp" or "bleed."

As well, it substantiates Donald Bradley's determination of the SVP. When his "Unveiling a New Tool!" article was published, he acknowledged that some additional tweaking could be needed. So far, I haven't seen any such need, unless it be by decimals of a second of arc, which would be hard to detect without absolutely painstakingly exact cases of timing and location, with similarly painstakingly exact statistics.

In short, the Synetic Vernal Point is it!

-Derek

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Derek wrote:

As well, it substantiates Donald Bradley's determination of the SVP.

Exactly!!!

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Exactly it's exactly

It's a little tedious to explain but, from all of saturation in SMA for the last year, i realized how his math was done, what led him down certain paths. I'm quite sure the maximum possible error is 5", and nearly as sure that it's less than half of that, i.e., 1" or 2" at most.

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Jim wrote:

It's a little tedious to explain but, from all of saturation in SMA for the last year, i realized how his math was done, what led him down certain paths. I'm quite sure the maximum possible error is 5", and nearly as sure that it's less than half of that, i.e., 1" or 2" at most.

Without a doubt, the greatest Rectification in the History of Astrology and your SMA work is keeping Bradley’s brilliant work alive.

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July 17, 2014, 5:15 PM EEDT, Torez, Ukraine 48N01, 38E37.

There has been time enough now to get better data on this.

The site was nearest Hirabove, Ukraine, at 48N08'17", 38E38'20". This will produce charts very similar to the ones given earlier, with minor differences.

Contact with the flight was lost at 14:15 GMT, the time I originally used (5:15 PM EEDT).

As suspected, all 283 passengers and 15 crew - 298 people in all - were killed.

It is now being labeled "the deadliest aviation incident since the 9/11 attacks," and the third deadliest "incident of aviation-related sabotage" ever.

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July 17, 2014, 5:15 PM EEDT, near Hirabove, Ukraine (site: 48N08'17", 38E38'20"). Notice that using the correct coordinates brings t. Pluto conjunct Capsolar Ascendant to within 0°01' of exact!

PRECIS
Solar: Venus, Jupiter, Pluto (Moon, Sun, Mercury). Moon-Venus-Pluto.
Lunar: Neptune.
Day: Saturn, Pluto.

Year: Capsolar {+1 Good}
Moon-Pluto conj. (0°34')
Venus-Pluto conj. (1°20')
Moon-Venus op. (1°54')
-- Jupiter rises (1°34')
-- Venus rises (1°37')
-- Pluto rises (2°57')
-- Moon sets (3°31')
Sun rises (7°17')
Mercury on EP (2°42')

Year: Cansolar {+2 Very Good}
Pluto on IC (0°45')
Uranus on WP (0°34')
Mercury on MC (3°39')
-- Mercury-Uranus square (0°04' in mundo)
Jupiter on MC (6°04')
Mars on IC 8°24')

This chart is extremely important! It shows the Cansolar valid from 365d 5h 46m earlier, with the Sun at 29°59'10" Gemini less than 1' from entering Cancer anew... but the old chart was still valid. This is an excellent example of the idea that Sidereal ingresses have no "cusp" or "bleed." The Mercury-Uranus 0°04' square on the angle is especially characteristic of aircraft disasters BTW.

Quarter: Arisolar
The Arisolar is dormant.

Month: Caplunar {+1 Good}
The Caplunar appears dormant until we look at the Mundoscope... and confirm that Neptune is only 2°27' below Ascendant.

Day: Capsolar Quotidian & Transits {+2 Very Good}
CapQ MC op. t. Saturn (1°48')
t. Pluto conjunct Capsolar Asc (0°01')

Day: Cansolar Quotidian & Transits {+2 Very Good}
CanQ EP op. s. Uranus (0°25')
CanQ MC op. t. Pluto (0°43')

SUMMARY
Year (Capsolar): Venus, Jupiter, Pluto (Moon, Sun, Mercury). Moon-Venus, Moon-Pluto, Venus-Pluto.
Year (Cansolar): Pluto (Mercury, Mars, Jupiter, Uranus). Mercury-Uranus.
Quarter: (Dormant.)
Month: Neptune.
Day (Capsolar): Saturn (CapQ). Pluto (transits to Capsolar).
Day (CanQ): Uranus, Pluto.