Mindscapes birth data

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Mindscapes
July 26, 1988
15:20 as told by my mother, asked her many times
Chioggia, VE, IT
Hospital coordinates 45°11'55.4"N 12°17'00.1"E

As suggested by Jim i'm posting my birth data here for analysis.

I suppose i'm interested in finding out some pointers in my chart about what direction to take my life. I have some internal turmoil, always had some form of it since childhood but the situation worsened in the last 4 years. I feel like time is passing and i'm not in line with my true self, like i was born to accomplish something or have the potential to do something that could give me some self realization but instead i'm wasting time in a lifepath that isn't giving me any happiness.

I always had an interest in spirituality; at around 10 years i started rejecting catholicism and reading about other philosophies, occultism, shamanism, magic. This sparked from my early consideration (almost a core belief) that reality is constructed or at least modified by tought, because i had some little psychic occurencies like knowing what someone will say before he said it (especially with family or close people), taking the phone in hand sure to receive a text from someone and receiving it immediately after, or more generally having situation develop how i tought they will, for the better or worse of it. I also sometimes "asked things from the universe" and generally obtained them in some way after a while. Later i found myself wondering if this is really creation or prediction instead; never reached a definitive conclusion but still...

I'm interested in a lot of things that seem to not interest people that surrounds me much, but it tend to not go really deeper into anything because i'm also easily bored.

Honestly i don't really know where to start about talking about myself because i dont have the gift of synthesis and i self analyze myself constantly, so i could write a lot of why and how about i became like i am, but i suppose the gist of it is i don't feel really happy and i think it's because i'm not aligned with who i really am or my life purpose. I have a sense i'm going totally in the wrong direction and i don't know where to take it from there, but i know i have to do something about it. I hope to find some guidance in my chart!

[Jim Eshelman]

Let's start off with the basic chart elements, then come back to the specific inquiry as time allows (or as others poke their heads in). I'll shortly add a copy of your natal horoscope (plus the mundoscope, which we discussed over the weekend) to this post and add some basic interpretive elements in the next post.

[Jupiter Sets at Dawn]

Where are you currently located?

[Jim Eshelman]

These notes on your Sidereal Natal Horoscope are provided for your reference and study. They are not a full interpretation of your birth chart; rather, they are building blocks from which a full interpretation can be built.

Each factor listed below contributes to your character. These paragraphs commonly repeat or contradict each other. (We all have contradictions.) Though it does not take an astrologer to fuse these factors into a balanced picture of you and your life, it does require knowledge of human behavior and the ways that people support and sabotage themselves. Knowing yourself is a life-long undertaking. I encourage you to read through these notes, feeling your way through the interweaving ideas and reflecting on what you know of yourself.

The paragraphs are brief. I have sought to pack in everything essential, to use a few words to imply much more. Not every phrase will apply, of course. Some will be more important than others; but the gist of each section should clearly reflect truth about you. When you have spent time with this and have new questions, ask!

ANGULAR PLANETS
Jupiter opposite Ascendant (8°46’)
Positive, optimistic, oriented to the good & qualitative. Unusually lucky. Aspires to (enjoys) life of leisure & its perks (seeks to improve self & conditions). Generous, congenial, tolerant, good-humored, kind. Sexually giving. Needs esteem & inclusion (usually well received; can be overly role-conscious). Responds to cultural totems, heritage, tradition, social graces, social & ceremonial rituals. Champion of justice & fair play.

NOTE: Since Jupiter is your only planet, and since your luminaries are both in Jupiter constellations, the fundamental energy of Jupiter is the strongest, most pervasive in your character – though hardly the only one.

MOON
Moon in Sagittarius
Higher & higher (ambition, spiritual aspiration, flight). Optimism (adapting with positivism). Courteous, gracious, natural hosts. Seeks to impress (needs validation, approval). Devoted to ideals and values (political; nationalistic, tribal; loves history). Dramatic (actors). Mercenary. Strong family ties.

Moon conjunct Uranus (0°39')
A specie of genius (intellectually rebellious, roving, curious, investigative) is bursting to express itself – not wholly comfortable accepting outside guidance, often wondering why others don’t recognize its nature. Inquisitive, original, futuristic, seeking novelty & needing variety (“will try anything twice”). Free-spirited: psychologically lives outside of convention; but subject to tensions and stiffness from emotional stress.

Moon conjunct Saturn (1°29’)
Proud, self-made. Dynamic, hardworking, persistent, self-driving. Encourages growth in others (expects them to do something worthy of their abilities). Usually emotionally reserved, private. Definite tendency (often unconscious) to seek total control of situations and relationships. Parent-themed issues (nourishment-deprivation, etc.) to work through. Judgmental (intolerant). Can be pessimistic, distrustful, little self-confidence, passive-aggressive, feeling inferior, anxious, depressed. Many enter religious or social work for mixed motives of service, self-immolation, and seeking control.

Saturn conjunct Uranus (0°50')
Well-developed autonomy, firmly defended; self-willed (acting out). Resists persuasion: navigates life and makes decisions on own terms (cantankerous obstinacy but not necessarily confrontational about it). Hard to pigeon-hole, thinks and acts outside of stereotypes. Need to “find their own word” and give it voice. Much of their life is about “holding it together” (some succeed, some don’t).

SUN
Sun in Cancer
Thrives within imagination & complexity (vision; or lost in fantasy). Lives in others’ shadow; finds purpose in service and emulation. Conceive & deliver results. Persuasive, trusted, instinct for motives. Live in mystery or its resolution: create or solve puzzles. Renewed by home or sanctuary. Sensitive, moody, self-absorbed.

Sun trine Mars (1°32')
Drive, courage, energy. Restless, moody, impatient, temperamental, stubbornly if silently prideful. Strong sexual needs. Industrious, instinctive leader.

Sun sextile Jupiter (3°00')
Generous, kind, warm, amiable, tolerant; needs acceptance & friendship. General dislike of problems: Has difficulty persevering against real adversity (though most problems resolve easily). Prodigal, loves leisure, overly reliant on luck. Philosophical or religious mind.

MARS
Mars in Pisces
Sensitive, imaginative, fervent; weaves vivid drama, vibrant fantasy. Brooding, moody, surging into temptation, pursing depths & heights. Creative reality-weaving, not scientific reality-discovering. Expect reality to match their wants (impatient with frustrated gratification). Passive-aggressive, manipulative. Looks at things most leave hidden (death, abnormal sexuality, occultism, mysteries of life & the psyche).

Mars square Neptune (2°50')
Obsessive, concentrated, with enormous psychic power to fascinate and move minds and reality, in a thriving life of high drama. Requires rapid conformity of reality to wants (usually gets it); surges into temptation; impatient with frustrated gratification, yet often can mobilize great stamina for long-term vision. Imagination and emotion are supercharged; thrives in conditions of stirred passion. Zealous enthusiasm for interests and convictions. Can compel a nearly religious following, as if by pure will (can be manipulative). Aggressions can be dramatic; unresolved anger patterns trigger in response to frustrations. High IQ. Sexually magnetic yet wrestles with sexual demons and doubts. (This aspect is most comprehensively expressed by high dopamine levels and dopamine-driven behavior.)

SAGITTARIUS STELLIUM
SAGITTARIUS FAVORS social elitism, aristocracy, excellence, & quality. Ambitious, aspiring. Judges self & others. Belief- & values-driven. Respects cultural continuity & social rituals. Preserves status quo, heritage, myth when possible. Loyal to tribe.

MERCURY & VENUS
Mercury in Cancer
Mind strongly influenced by feelings (romantic, subjective, infused with imagination). Writing style leverages imagery. Edits, modifies, & embellishes ideas, polishing & rehashing. Planners, organizers. Gives insightful counsel.

Venus in Taurus
Gentle, kind. Feels intensely (moody). Lives in a romantic or fantasy world. Affectionate, devoted, desires tenderness, sympathetic. Eros dominates. Wants to enjoy love & all pleasure from its many forms. Devoted: friendship important. Indulgent, gratifies desires readily. Artistic, aesthetic. Graceful. Avoids harsh, vulgar, violent, painful.

OTHER
Neptune sextile Pluto (1°38')
Open to shifting point of view, alternative perspectives, variant possibilities: Potential to forge a new worldview and enroll others. Uncertainty feeds desire for certainty, regarding things a certain way and not other.

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Where are you currently located?

I was born in that city but never lived in it (though i tend to like it); i live in a little town 40 km from that, the coordinates don't seem to change much. I also work near home right now, about halfway between where i was born and where i live.

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Jupiter opposite Ascendant (8°46’)
Positive, optimistic, oriented to the good & qualitative. Unusually lucky. Aspires to (enjoys) life of leisure & its perks (seeks to improve self & conditions). Generous, congenial, tolerant, good-humored, kind. Sexually giving. Needs esteem & inclusion (usually well received; can be overly role-conscious). Responds to cultural totems, heritage, tradition, social graces, social & ceremonial rituals. Champion of justice & fair play.

NOTE: Since Jupiter is your only planet, and since your luminaries are both in Jupiter constellations, the fundamental energy of Jupiter is the strongest, most pervasive in your character – though hardly the only one.

I don't understand this. Isn't sun in cancer ruled by the moon? Does this delineation take into account the constellation of the ruler?

I can relate to the life aspirations. Sexuality is definitely modified by other energies, as is written i feel jupiter as hardly the only one. I've read your article about the strenght of angularity decading fast after 10 degrees from the angle but i feel like we should also consider pluto, as it's not really far from the ascendant, and the ascendant itself is near scorpio.

In fact now that i think about it even the aspiration to improve self and condition i think could be seen as a plutonian influence (transformation, death, rebirth, old patterns diying, transforming into something new).

I have a personal sense of justice, but i don't usually mind fair play if i think not playing fair is the best course of action (also a plutonian tendency i think.

I'm not really optimistic and positive, i tend to be more pessimistic honestly. I suppose i had my lucky moments but i certainly am not lucky in the traditional let's buy a ticket and win the lottery sense. I'm lucky in the sense that i usually can come out from some circumstances even without much preparation.

MOON

can relate with everything said here, the stellium is definitely interfering with the jupiter tendencies (pessimistic instead of optimistic, intolerant instead of tolerant sometimes, etc) and in my opinion and based on my feelings and personal experience it becomes a more powerful characteristic in my chart.

I also feel the neptune energies coloring the whole thing and feel they should be analized here. I had always been a daydreamer, used books in my younger years as escapism, then started beoing interested in lucid dreams and astral travel (without much success unfortunately), then discovered substances and psychedelics as a mean to enter different realities or modifing the perception of this one. I also like using drugs just for fun. Basically i feel a lot the neptunian traits of head in the clouds and addictive personality (deriving from some sort of escapism from this reality). I think neptune potentiate the cancer sun tendencies in this case.

SUN

not much to add here, i can relate. Overly reliant of luck, yes, as i said before most of the times i don't prepare much even for important happenings and tend to improvise, i usually have the convinction that everything will go in the best way aniway. It's not always true tough, im like this more in area of my life that i consider accesories, things i have to do because i have to to live as a normal person in the society, but i'm different if i really care about something (usually personal relationship, things i love doing, things that in that particular moment obsess me. Here i don't really think everything will just happens in the best way, i'm more anxious).

MARS
Mars in Pisces
Sensitive, imaginative, fervent; weaves vivid drama, vibrant fantasy. Brooding, moody, surging into temptation, pursing depths & heights. Creative reality-weaving, not scientific reality-discovering. Expect reality to match their wants (impatient with frustrated gratification). Passive-aggressive, manipulative. Looks at things most leave hidden (death, abnormal sexuality, occultism, mysteries of life & the psyche).

Mars square Neptune (2°50')
Obsessive, concentrated, with enormous psychic power to fascinate and move minds and reality, in a thriving life of high drama. Requires rapid conformity of reality to wants (usually gets it); surges into temptation; impatient with frustrated gratification, yet often can mobilize great stamina for long-term vision. Imagination and emotion are supercharged; thrives in conditions of stirred passion. Zealous enthusiasm for interests and convictions. Can compel a nearly religious following, as if by pure will (can be manipulative). Aggressions can be dramatic; unresolved anger patterns trigger in response to frustrations. High IQ. Sexually magnetic yet wrestles with sexual demons and doubts. (This aspect is most comprehensively expressed by high dopamine levels and dopamine-driven behavior.)

This is spot on. Creative reality-weaving, not scientific reality-discovering, this pretty much sums up my opening post about reality lol.

Imagination and emotion are supercharged; thrives in conditions of stirred passion. Yeah, a lot.

Can compel a nearly religious following, as if by pure will (can be manipulative). Yeah, sometimes i found myself being considered the leader in some small groups (for example when we were doing group projects in school) but i don't really enjoy very much being relied on for decisions. I also tend to be manipulative if i feel it's the right course of action.

(This aspect is most comprehensively expressed by high dopamine levels and dopamine-driven behavior.) Yeah. Curiously, dopamine is one of the things that interest me, i spent years trying various supplements to trick my organism in producing more, as i tought my at times lack of motivation could be caused by low dopamine. I also like intoxicants that act on the dopamine system and extensively used them.

I find this delineation to be really fitting and descriptive about me.

MERCURY & VENUS, PLUTO

Pretty much agree with this. As i said above i tend to feel pluto energies. I always identified with my tropical scorpio asc and ruling pluto in 12 th.

[Jupiter Sets at Dawn]

Where are you currently located?

I was born in that city but never lived in it (though i tend to like it); i live in a little town 40 km from that, the coordinates don't seem to change much. I also work near home right now, about halfway between where i was born and where i live.

What time it is is a function of where you are, and what's angular, especially using mundane (Prime Vertical) coordinates, is also a function of where you are.
If your current residence is due north or south of your birthplace, it probably doesn't matter much, but if it's at all east or west, it might. No way to tell with the information you've given.

If you want anyone to look at anything other than your static birth chart, it would help a lot to know what your place of residence is. Even transits (as Jim explained) can be wide zodiacally but close mundanely, or vice versa.

[Jupiter Sets at Dawn]

NOTE: Since Jupiter is your only planet, and since your luminaries are both in Jupiter constellations, the fundamental energy of Jupiter is the strongest, most pervasive in your character – though hardly the only one.

I don't understand this. Isn't sun in cancer ruled by the moon? Does this delineation take into account the constellation of the ruler?

I think there's a word missing here. I think Jim meant to say "Since Jupiter is your only angular planet..."

Sun in Cancer is ruled by the Moon, but this delineation, and this whole site, don't take the constellation of the ruler of the constellation your planets are in into account. That's from horary (spit) and has no place in serious astrology.

BTW, I think you might want to read up more on Pluto on this site, because we don't think it means what you appear to think it means.

[Jim Eshelman]

Jupiter opposite Ascendant (8°46’)
Positive, optimistic, oriented to the good & qualitative. Unusually lucky. Aspires to (enjoys) life of leisure & its perks (seeks to improve self & conditions). Generous, congenial, tolerant, good-humored, kind. Sexually giving. Needs esteem & inclusion (usually well received; can be overly role-conscious). Responds to cultural totems, heritage, tradition, social graces, social & ceremonial rituals. Champion of justice & fair play.

NOTE: Since Jupiter is your only planet, and since your luminaries are both in Jupiter constellations, the fundamental energy of Jupiter is the strongest, most pervasive in your character – though hardly the only one.

I don't understand this. Isn't sun in cancer ruled by the moon? Does this delineation take into account the constellation of the ruler?

Cancer is Moon ruled and Jupiter exalted. The ruling and exalted planets define the basic nature of a sign be resembling that sign, so Cancer is a blend of Moon and Jupiter energies. Similarly, detriment and fall are dissimilar to a sign, so Cancer is unlike Saturn and Mars (which is much like saying it is similar to Jupiter and Moon).

I've read your article about the strenght of angularity decading fast after 10 degrees from the angle but i feel like we should also consider pluto, as it's not really far from the ascendant, and the ascendant itself is near scorpio.

As you can see from the mundoscope above, Pluto is 18° above Ascendant; that is, it shows as 12° into the 30° 12th house, maning it is 18° above Ascendant. - Also, we don't consider that Pluto is akin to Scorpio, which is a pure Mars expression; Pluto we credit as the ruler of Aries. Third, you speak of Ascendant being "near" Scorpio - we regard the signs as having no cuspal bleed at all, the cut-off is razor sharp at 0°00'00".

In fact now that i think about it even the aspiration to improve self and condition i think could be seen as a plutonian influence (transformation, death, rebirth, old patterns diying, transforming into something new).

The way you worded it is pure Jupiter.

I have a personal sense of justice, but i don't usually mind fair play if i think not playing fair is the best course of action (also a plutonian tendency i think).

I'm not quite sure what Plutonian characteristics you are seeing in that. - Additionally, there isn't really any Pluto stand-out in your chart. Pluto is neither near an angle, aspecting a luminary, or dignified in a luminary sign, and doesn't even have a significant aspect besides the sextile to Neptune.

I also feel the neptune energies coloring the whole thing and feel they should be analized here.

Your strongest Neptune is through your Mars, which is in Pisces and closely square Neptune. Some of the Neptune-like traits you mention are also very Cancer - anything connected to imagination, imagery, and living in inner spaces. You probably want to read the longer, more elaborate discussion of Sun in Cancer in the Constellations - Interpretations section of the forum. Some of the things you mentioned are also described in the Mars in Pisces interpretation.

Thanks for the feedback.

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Where are you currently located?

I was born in that city but never lived in it (though i tend to like it); i live in a little town 40 km from that, the coordinates don't seem to change much. I also work near home right now, about halfway between where i was born and where i live.

What time it is is a function of where you are, and what's angular, especially using mundane (Prime Vertical) coordinates, is also a function of where you are.
If your current residence is due north or south of your birthplace, it probably doesn't matter much, but if it's at all east or west, it might. No way to tell with the information you've given.

If you want anyone to look at anything other than your static birth chart, it would help a lot to know what your place of residence is. Even transits (as Jim explained) can be wide zodiacally but close mundanely, or vice versa.

Sorry, it seems the pc didn't register the new copy command when i choosed the coordinates of my town, so it pasted the same ones as the birthplace. That's why i didn't write them down. The correct ones for my town should be 44°55'58.5"N 12°19'51.3"E

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BTW, I think you might want to read up more on Pluto on this site, because we don't think it means what you appear to think it means.

Thanks, will do a search for it!

[Jim Eshelman]

BTW, I think you might want to read up more on Pluto on this site, because we don't think it means what you appear to think it means.

Thanks, will do a search for it!

Some useful links in that regard:
Pluto (final) chapter of this: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=28#p10175
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=31#p110
https://www.solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=38#p191
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=29#p101

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Thanks for the feedback.

Thanks to you for your time! I will take a look to the constellation interpretation section!

Another question, i don't see any mention to the opposition of venus to the stellium. Should i refer to the moon aspects and venus aspects section of your sidereal interpretation basics document? Why you didn't mention it, do you think in the grand scheme of things the opposition has minor importance compared to other peculiarities of the chart?

Some useful links in that regard:

Cool!

[Jim Eshelman]

Another question, i don't see any mention to the opposition of venus to the stellium. Should i refer to the moon aspects and venus aspects section of your sidereal interpretation basics document? Why you didn't mention it, do you think in the grand scheme of things the opposition has minor importance compared to other peculiarities of the chart?

The goal wasn't to list everything - that often makes something too burdensome to read - but rather to focus on the strongest features. Yes, you have very weak oppositions of Venus to Moon, Saturn, and Uranus, all of them over 5° and two of them over 6°. They are, however, the main factors coloring your Venus, so they're important when specifically examining Venus' disposition in your chart. Here are the boilerplate interpretations of these three aspects in order of strength:

Venus opposite Saturn
Work, duty, devotion give especial pleasure. Various restrictions (even hardships) in love. Work (with an eye to service) is inherently gratifying; ordinary pleasures may be delayed or sacrificed for responsibilities. Many seem comfortable alone (unpartnered), though there is rarely any sexual restraint (often quite the opposite). Childhood hardship or deprivation often exists (physical or emotional) that shapes adult patterns; many move far from their birthplace to restart their lives. Sober, responsible. Willing to pragmatically sacrifice (even sellout) whatever they need to, for something more important to them.

Venus opposite Uranus
Pleasure drives are free of social convention or taboo, allowing enjoyment from a wide variety of social and sexual experiences. They approach friendship, love, sex, and other pleasure on their own terms, with a deep instinct for flexibility and freedom from artificial constraint. Socially popular, friendly, engaging, and well-liked, in response to their lightly flirtatious, genial, roguish style. (Underlying innocence and vulnerability are often masked by their social “character.”) Often requires distance from intimacy or depersonalizes affection, which can strain conventional pairings. Usually optimistic for society’s future with a deep instinct toward a less Puritanical, more open social fabric.

Moon opposite Venus
Attractive, charming; much sexual charisma. Gracious (ingratiating), affectionate, sensual. Fond of social niceties. High frustration tolerance. (Passive-dependent, moody, can be blindsided by strong feelings, often preoccupied with whether they are liked.)