Pluto and Regeneration

[sotonye]

Where does this idea come from? Is this idea valid? If so in what capacity is Pluto regenerative? Physical? Mental? And in what ways does it find its expression? Through all aspects involving Pluto? Through some? Angularity? I’m curious about this, I’ve seen the idea peppered here and there throughout the forum but without much furnishing

[Jim Eshelman]

The idea surely originally arose from the mythic relationship of Pluto to death, then thought of as death and transformation. One way that regeneration symbolically fits our current understanding of Pluto is in cellular regeneration, as a variation of the root idea of conception core cells divide. In a broader concept we can stand behind the idea of regeneration as one word choice for what happens when you psychologically or circumstantially pass the threshold with no way to back out of it, crossing a line in the sand, change with No Going Back.

[sotonye]

The idea surely originally arose from the mythic relationship of Pluto to death, then thought of as death and transformation. One way that regeneration symbolically fits our current understanding of Pluto is in cellular regeneration, as a variation of the root idea of conception core cells divide. In a broader concept we can stand behind the idea of regeneration as one word choice for what happens when you psychologically or circumstantially pass the threshold with no way to back out of it, crossing a line in the sand, change with No Going Back.

This almost sounds like crossing the mystical abyss on your way to kether?

[Jim Eshelman]

Qabalistically I attribute Pluto to Kether itself, the Abyss to Neptune. (I don't see anything i said that resembles the Abyss, except perhaps an image of a mad swarm of a zillion sperm cells.)

Most Qabbalists (especially those moved by Christian symbolism consciously or unconsciously), of the sort that equate Pluto with Scorpio especially attribute this sort of Pluto symbolism with Nun and the threshold to Tifereth.

[sotonye]

Qabalistically I attribute Pluto to Kether itself, the Abyss to Neptune. (I don't see anything i said that resembles the Abyss, except perhaps an image of a mad swarm of a zillion sperm cells.)

Most Qabbalists (especially those moved by Christian symbolism consciously or unconsciously), of the sort that equate Pluto with Scorpio especially attribute this sort of Pluto symbolism with Nun and the threshold to Tifereth.

Oh no i wasn’t attributing Pluto to the abyss but to what lies across it, i see the abyss as being explicitly Neptunian