There was a poem someone remembered:
Monday's child is fair of face,
Tuesday's child is full of grace,
Wednesday's child is full of woe,
Thursday's child has far to go,
Friday's child is loving and giving,
Saturday's child works hard for a living,
But the child who is born on the Sabbath day
Is bonnie and blithe and good and gay.
And I immediately sketched a mapping to the planets. Something like this below:
Monday: Moon--the sex symbol aspect of moon-dominant charts
Tuesday: Mars-dominance and athletic prowess
Wednesday: Mercury--not sure how woe fits here (it might be just the cognate with the English version of the day of the week, though I've read things that Virgos are sensitive, tend to have tough childhoods, etc)
Thursday: Jupiter and the idea of big accomplishments
Friday: Venus and being affectionate
Saturday: Saturn and hard-work
Then we looked up the days we were born on, and I was born on a Wednesday. I have five planets in Virgo. I'm very mercurial.
So, I was wondering. Have any of you researched this and found any correlation between the day of the week, and predominant forces in a person's birth chart? Or is it in your opinion coincidental, or another independent variable?
Jupiter Sets At Dawn wrote:Thursday's child, born at dawn while Jupiter set.
Danica wrote:my daughter born on Mars' day - has Mars in Aries, foreground (and angular now when relocated); has Sun in Capricorn which is Mars' exaltation sign
my husband born on Venus' day - Sun in Libra, Mercury in Libra (Venus conj. Pluto)
myself born on Venus day - Venus in Taurus, on DC
my parents: father born on Sun-day, Sun in Taurus but Moon in Leo; mother born on Mercury's day: Sun conj. Mercury, though in Pisces
= out of 5, I'd say it's three very good matches and two partially good
SteveS wrote:Wife a Friday’s birth, Venus 2,01 square Asc and Venus has dominated her life in career and main life interests.
Arena wrote:Wouldn't it be more fitting if there is anything to this, that Tuesday was Mercurian and Wednesday was Martian (full of woe)?Monday's child is fair of face,
Tuesday's child is full of grace,
Wednesday's child is full of woe,
Thursday's child has far to go,
Friday's child is loving and giving,
Saturday's child works hard for a living,
But the child who is born on the Sabbath day
Is bonnie and blithe and good and gay.
Was born on Wednesday myself and my Moon in sidereal Aries is square to both Mercury and Mars - so I guess I am both.
My daughter is born on Wednesday and is Martian as she has her sidereal Sun in Scorpio, but also has Venus prominent. Mercury is not prominent in her chart, except if you look at the conjunction to the node as a prominent.
My son is born on Friday and has both Sun and Moon conjunct Venus.
My older son is born on Monday and has the least fair face of them all - although he might become fairer as growing out of the teenage. But his Moon is conjunct EP in Cancer, conjunct Mars and opposite Uranus. He is very much rebellious towards his mother
My partner was born on Tuesday and is the most Mercurian person I've ever met in my entire life.
Jim Eshelman wrote:While I've always had a secret pleasure (probably overcompensation LOL) of having been born on a Sunday, I think - at the very least - the most accurate answer to your question is that nobody has demonstrated that there is an astrological correlation.Avshalom Binyamin wrote:So, I was wondering. Have any of you researched this and found any correlation between the day of the week, and predominant forces in a person's birth chart? Or is it in your opinion coincidental, or another independent variable?
There is a traditional magical correlation sufficiently strong for writers to keep recommending this is a consideration in timing planetary magick, but nobody has demonstrated anything really operating astrologically. (One would think that those who had the Gauquelin data on computer storage would have checked this routinely to see if it popped up for the character-driven professional groups but, if so, I never heard about it.)
In my family, there is an interesting pattern that has kept niggling at me for 40-50 years: Of 5 kids, 4 of us were born on Sundays. (However, neither parent was.)
Jupiter Sets At Dawn wrote:Women have their babies when they relax. Work in a delivery room sometime. If there's a storm that leaves ice on the roads for people driving home on Monday, the pregnant women start coming in early Tuesday morning. Big hailstorm overnight on Thursday, call in extra help in labor and delivery beginning Friday afternoon. But it also works if there's a big football game Sunday afternoon, early Monday morning the nursery will be bringing the extra cribs out of storage. It's about 18 hours between the event and the beginning of labor.
So what was your Mom doing Saturdays she was glad was over (even if she enjoyed the event?) Did she have everyone over for a big family dinner? Or did her family show up and have her taking curtains down for cleaning and otherwise climbing on step stools or going up and down stairs?
TheScales_BothWays wrote:Hmm, first things first, I think in things like these we need a definite definition on when the new day begins. I'm inclined to say that it's the day shown in local mean time (LMT), or that the day starts when the Sun exactly conjuncts the IC.
I'm still a Wednesday-born child despite my area is using a time zone which is 1 1/4 hours ahead of its local time. (I was born at 01:40 AM, Malaysian Standard Time!)
If you follow the Indian/Vedic way, the day starts at sunrise, which is theoretically logical enough. I'm a Tuesday-born child this way.
Au contraire, Muslims start their traditional day at sunset . Am still a Mercury's day child this way.
What in my chart supports that I'm a child full of woe :
A partile Moon-Mercury square (0°23' separating, I think)
If I'd been born minutes later Mercury would've come into orb of being foreground at the IC
And that's about it I guess, but it would suffice.
What in my chart supports that I'm a child full of grace (and I believe this poem line is an oxymoron at best ) :
Moon in Capricorn, Mars's exaltation sign.
Okay, but:
Sun's in Libra, semisquared and in mutual reception from Venus.
Mars is in background—an utter mortification for Mars!
To do justice for my existence I should've been a Friday born haha.Hmm, what's so relaxing that might've happened to my mother at Tuesday?Jupiter Sets At Dawn wrote:Women have their babies when they relax. Work in a delivery room sometime. If there's a storm that leaves ice on the roads for people driving home on Monday, the pregnant women start coming in early Tuesday morning. Big hailstorm overnight on Thursday, call in extra help in labor and delivery beginning Friday afternoon. But it also works if there's a big football game Sunday afternoon, early Monday morning the nursery will be bringing the extra cribs out of storage. It's about 18 hours between the event and the beginning of labor.
Ah yes, t'was Vijaya Dasami (aka Dussehra in North Indian languages), a religious festival. She might've gotten some religious retreat after the nine-night long Navaratri festival which precedes it.
BTW I was born when the Dasami tithi (Hindu lunar phase/day?) was still going on, and part of Vijaya Dasami's unique ceremonies is that children begin to write on this day (usually their names on some rice, with the help of their parents) as it's considered auspicious to do so on this day. +1 for Mercurial symbolism!