Super Tuesday likely to defy expectations?

Developing & testing the application of Sidereal Mundane Astrology to Picking Winners in sports competitions.
Post Reply
User avatar
Jim Eshelman
Are You Sirius?
Posts: 19078
Joined: Sun May 07, 2017 12:40 pm

Super Tuesday likely to defy expectations?

Post by Jim Eshelman »

Steve, I wanted to draw your attention to this:

The February 27 Arilunar, covering the week of the South Carolina primary and the critically important and gigantic Super Tuesday primary collection, is dormant for Washington. However, it has Jupiter setting exactly in Las Vegas. Looking at the Arilunar for Las Vegas, we see that Jupiter is not only exactly angular but within reasonable orb of conjunct Pluto.

Conclusion from that: Las Vegas will make an enormous, unexpected amount of money that week (in a way that defies the odds).

Conclusion from that: People placing bets that week, en masse, place the wrong bets and the house wins big.

Conclusion from that: Whatever the odds say going into Super Tuesday is not how the primaries overall turn out.

Usual warnings about grains of salt and making your own decisions (as you will)... but I thought it worth a thought.
Jim Eshelman
www.jeshelman.com
SteveS
Nabu
Posts: 6479
Joined: Mon May 08, 2017 5:11 am

Re: Super Tuesday likely to defy expectations?

Post by SteveS »

Interesting Jim, I made up my mind weeks ago I will not be wagering on any parts of the 2020 Election until the final week going into the Prez election, I have not seen the right type of betting odds to interest me. But, I most certainly will be speculating in my mind with certain interesting astrological possibilities for this most bizarre/fascinating Prez Election :). In fact, if Bernie does not become the Dem Nominee, I will lose most of my astrological interest in this election unless I see the right kind of betting odds on the day of Prez election.
SteveS
Nabu
Posts: 6479
Joined: Mon May 08, 2017 5:11 am

Re: Super Tuesday likely to defy expectations?

Post by SteveS »

Bernie is favored in 13 out of 14 states for Super Tuesday.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/wash ... sday-races
SteveS
Nabu
Posts: 6479
Joined: Mon May 08, 2017 5:11 am

Re: Super Tuesday likely to defy expectations?

Post by SteveS »

Exact Result By Bernie Sanders On Super Tuesday:

Option Odds
Win 10 primary elections on Super Tuesday +400
Win 11 primary elections on Super Tuesday +400
Win 12 primary elections on Super Tuesday +500
Win 13 primary elections on Super Tuesday +500
Win 8 primary elections on Super Tuesday +600
Win 9 primary elections on Super Tuesday +600
Win 14 primary elections on Super Tuesday +800
Win 7 primary elections on Super Tuesday +1400
Win all 15 primary elections on Super Tuesday +2000
Win 6 primary elections on Super Tuesday +4000
Win 3 primary elections on Super Tuesday +25000
Win 4 primary elections on Super Tuesday +25000
Win 5 primary elections on Super Tuesday +25000
Win 1 primary election on Super Tuesday +50000
Win 2 primary elections on Super Tuesday +50000
Win zero primary elections on Super Tuesday +50000
User avatar
Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Irish Member
Irish Member
Posts: 3522
Joined: Sun May 07, 2017 7:03 pm

Re: Super Tuesday likely to defy expectations?

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn »

Jim Eshelman wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:18 pm Conclusion from that: Whatever the odds say going into Super Tuesday is not how the primaries overall turn out.
I think you predicted that correctly.
User avatar
Jim Eshelman
Are You Sirius?
Posts: 19078
Joined: Sun May 07, 2017 12:40 pm

Re: Super Tuesday likely to defy expectations?

Post by Jim Eshelman »

:)

I like this one. It was a very targeted thought process.

Joe just won Texas. AFAIK Maine is still up in the air but Bernie may have won as few as four states (though one of those is California, the big prize).
Jim Eshelman
www.jeshelman.com
User avatar
Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Irish Member
Irish Member
Posts: 3522
Joined: Sun May 07, 2017 7:03 pm

Re: Super Tuesday likely to defy expectations?

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn »

Bernie may have gotten two or three delegates more than Biden in California, when Biden was expected to struggle getting enough votes to win any delegates at all. I don't call that a win for Bernie, even if he tries to claim it as one.

It may take a few days before California gets counted up so we won't really know till then.

Next week, most of the primaries are for Southern states and Bernie hasn't expected to do well in them.
User avatar
Jim Eshelman
Are You Sirius?
Posts: 19078
Joined: Sun May 07, 2017 12:40 pm

Re: Super Tuesday likely to defy expectations?

Post by Jim Eshelman »

With 42% of the vote reported in California, Sanders has 31%, Biden 21%, and Bloomberg 16%. They are the only three with at least 15% of the vote so they split IIRC 415 delegates proportionately. (Slight fib: Some of those are proportionate to state totals, but about half are precinct by precinct. But it's a good enough estimate.)

Of their combined 68% of the total vote, if the numbers stayed Bernie would get 189 delegates, Biden 128, and Bloomberg 98.
Jim Eshelman
www.jeshelman.com
SteveS
Nabu
Posts: 6479
Joined: Mon May 08, 2017 5:11 am

Re: Super Tuesday likely to defy expectations?

Post by SteveS »

Jim wrote:
Steve, I wanted to draw your attention to this:
The February 27 Arilunar, covering the week of the South Carolina primary and the critically important and gigantic Super Tuesday primary collection, is dormant for Washington. However, it has Jupiter setting exactly in Las Vegas. Looking at the Arilunar for Las Vegas, we see that Jupiter is not only exactly angular but within reasonable orb of conjunct Pluto.
Conclusion from that: Las Vegas will make an enormous, unexpected amount of money that week (in a way that defies the odds).
Conclusion from that: People placing bets that week, en masse, place the wrong bets and the house wins big.
Conclusion from that: Whatever the odds say going into Super Tuesday is not how the primaries overall turn out.
Jim, your Sidereal Mundane Astrology call here was spot on! When you made this post there were no betting odds for Super Tuesday on my two online account betting sites. Yesterday on https://www.oddsshark.com/politics/2020 ... ds-futures which I do not have an account with-- they posted odds for Super Tuesday on how many exact States Bernie would win on Super Tuesday which I posted on this thread at 4:25 PM, yesterday Mar 3.

If you and I had been sitting a major sports betting parlor yesterday at one of the big Casino in Vegas offering the same oddsshark bets for Super Tuesday, and had taken the 5 highest long shot wagers for the exact results for how many states Bernie would have won on Super Tuesday; and, bet 100 $ each on these 5 long shots bets for the exact number of States Bernie would have won, this would have been our betting slip:

To win 1 State Primary +5,000--Risk $100 to win $5,000
To win 2 State Primary +5,000--Risk $100 to win $5,000
To win 3 State Primary +2,500---Risk $100 to win $2,500
To win 4 State Primary +2,500---Risk $100 to win $2,500
To win 5 State Primary +2,500---Risk $100 to win $2,500

The next highest pay-out was to win 6 State Primary at +4,000.

Since Bernie only won 4 State Primaries which you predicted with Super Tuesday not going the way the bettors in Vegas expected, we would have won 2,460 $ with a risk of betting 500$! A 10 $ bet on the 5 above bets would have won 246 $ for a mere risk of 50 $. This is exactly the tremendous potential I have long seen with a serious study of your free Sidereal Mundane Astrology book for 50 Super Bowl, when betting only on certain important sports games with when Vegas has the odds wrong according to what Sidereal Mundane Astrology is conveying with certain planetary symbolism. But only you and I see/understand this advantage potential using Sidereal Mundane Astrology because we damn sure know we got the exact 12- 30 degree divisions of the Sidereal Zodiac! Donald Bradley (RIP) is rolling with laughter :lol: in his grave at you and me. If I had a real time machine I would get in it and go back and sit down with Cyril Fagan (RIP) and Donald Bradly on important sporting contest when I/we see Vegas has the odds wrong with Sidereal Mundane Astrology with your Super Bowl work, and we would have a blast!

Here is the big problem: Most online sports books don't post all the combinations betting odds for sporting contests---only a major sports book desk at the large Casinos in Vegas post these type combination betting odds, which the pros in Vegas would consider Sucker Bets and not dare waste there money with these type ridiculously high odds wagers! Being a very experienced sports gambler since I turned 21, I have long seen the tremendous betting advantage Sidereal Mundane Astrology offers for certain sporting contests. All you have to do to win money on a consistent basis is be very patient and keep doing your Sidereal Mundane Astrology homework---which is loads of fun for the serious Sidereal Mundane Astrologer :) .

All the Media pundits and Vegas odds makers got Super Tuesday dead wrong with Bernie favored to win in 13 out of the 14 States! But you saw it differently with Sidereal Mundane Astrology. Great call but we had no way to make any wagers, we would have had to be in Vegas to execute the above betting slip.
Last edited by SteveS on Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:42 am, edited 2 times in total.
User avatar
Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Irish Member
Irish Member
Posts: 3522
Joined: Sun May 07, 2017 7:03 pm

Re: Super Tuesday likely to defy expectations?

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn »

Jim Eshelman wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 12:05 am Of their combined 68% of the total vote, if the numbers stayed Bernie would get 189 delegates, Biden 128, and Bloomberg 98.
Biden 453 so far + 128 CA = 581
Bernie 373 so far + 189 CA = 561
Bloomberg, who knows so far + 98 CA = he can't get to 1991 without a contested convention anyway, so who cares.

Bernie has been saying he wants to force the nomination to the person with a plurality, if nobody gets the majority of delegates, even though he voted against that at the last convention.
I bet he shuts right up about that now.
User avatar
Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Irish Member
Irish Member
Posts: 3522
Joined: Sun May 07, 2017 7:03 pm

Re: Super Tuesday likely to defy expectations?

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn »

Bloomberg dropped out of the race about 10 AM. He says there's no path forward.

He endorsed Joe Biden.
User avatar
Jim Eshelman
Are You Sirius?
Posts: 19078
Joined: Sun May 07, 2017 12:40 pm

Re: Super Tuesday likely to defy expectations?

Post by Jim Eshelman »

We are now left with a very entertaining movie plot: Two grumpy old men (estranged brothers who agree more than they disagree but would never be caught admitting it) and a younger college professor chick who, in a pinch, always has the brightest, unexpected solutions. They eventually meet at a family destination in Milwaukee where all the intertwined plot points work out in a warm, family-bonding moment pulled together by Aunt Amy and their bright, gay grandson, Pete. Call it "Grumpy Old Men & the Persistent Professor."
Jim Eshelman
www.jeshelman.com
User avatar
Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Irish Member
Irish Member
Posts: 3522
Joined: Sun May 07, 2017 7:03 pm

Re: Super Tuesday likely to defy expectations?

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn »

:mrgreen:
User avatar
Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Irish Member
Irish Member
Posts: 3522
Joined: Sun May 07, 2017 7:03 pm

Re: Super Tuesday likely to defy expectations?

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn »

Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:46 am :mrgreen:
You left out the part of Troller in Chief. He's still trying to support Sanders.
User avatar
Jim Eshelman
Are You Sirius?
Posts: 19078
Joined: Sun May 07, 2017 12:40 pm

Re: Super Tuesday likely to defy expectations?

Post by Jim Eshelman »

Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:52 am
Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:46 am :mrgreen:
You left out the part of Troller in Chief. He's still trying to support Sanders.
Every good plot needs an antagonist, and we have one of the most antagonizing of them all: Donny the geriatric school bully.
Jim Eshelman
www.jeshelman.com
User avatar
Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Irish Member
Irish Member
Posts: 3522
Joined: Sun May 07, 2017 7:03 pm

Re: Super Tuesday likely to defy expectations?

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn »

Warren, after spending time "reassessing her campaign" since Super Tuesday, is planning to announce she's suspending her campaign, probably announcing around Noon Eastern.
User avatar
Jim Eshelman
Are You Sirius?
Posts: 19078
Joined: Sun May 07, 2017 12:40 pm

Re: Super Tuesday likely to defy expectations?

Post by Jim Eshelman »

We have two finalists for March Madness. (Not counting Tulsi.)
Jim Eshelman
www.jeshelman.com
User avatar
Jupiter Sets at Dawn
Irish Member
Irish Member
Posts: 3522
Joined: Sun May 07, 2017 7:03 pm

Re: Super Tuesday likely to defy expectations?

Post by Jupiter Sets at Dawn »

I don't know as poor Tulsi ever actually counted.
User avatar
Jim Eshelman
Are You Sirius?
Posts: 19078
Joined: Sun May 07, 2017 12:40 pm

Re: Super Tuesday likely to defy expectations?

Post by Jim Eshelman »

Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote: Thu Mar 05, 2020 8:42 am I don't know as poor Tulsi ever actually counted.
There are serious thoughts that she's this year's Jill Stein and poised to cause trouble or to be used by others to cause trouble.

But, gosh, as an American Samoan representing Hawaii, she lost all American Samoan delegates to a man who dropped out of the race two days later because of how bad he did overall.
Jim Eshelman
www.jeshelman.com
Post Reply