My birth info is as follows
June 16, 1963, 6:36am, Winona, MN
This translates to 15 Gem rising, sun 0 Gem 23, moon 21 Pis. Oh but it's there a semi automatic facility to drop all that stuff into this topic?
I started dabbling in astrology in the late 80s, and set it aside. And then a few outer planet transits several years ago brought me into a frame of more intense study. A couple of years in, I picked up a book on jyotish and realized I had greater affinity with the sidereal system, notwithstanding a disinclination to study jyotish in particular. I stumbled onto Jim's books, Fagan and Bradley, then Kenneth Bowser's. For the last just under two years, I was studying harmonics and symmetric astrology under David Cochrane, until work and life demands made it difficult to devote the time required for proper study. I also wanted to get more serious about studying Western sidereal and developing software that would do my bidding...
The chief features of my Nativity are:
Moon in Pisces con Jup, within a degree: my home circumstances are comfortable, etc
Mercury square Uranus, 7 mins: let's just call this interest in unusual topics
Pluto at IC in RA: radical discord in family of origin
Chiron con MC, trine Nep: not quite sure what to make of this, perhaps I should have become a doctor or therapist, but for
Sun in 12th trine Saturn in 8th: inclined to keep a low profile
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Re: Josh
No. Could there be?Jambo wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:43 pm Oh but it's there a semi automatic facility to drop all that stuff into this topic?
Could there maybe be some to do MY bidding??I also wanted to get more serious about studying Western sidereal and developing software that would do my bidding...
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Re: Josh
Josh, welcome to Solunars.Jambo wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:43 pm My birth info is as follows
June 16, 1963, 6:36am, Winona, MN
Not something automated on the site. I do have a (needing to be updated) interp file for Solar Fire that some people use. I use Word file that has all the paragraphs, go through and delete the ones that don't apply, then rearrange them to give what seems an optimum "story line" on the chart. I'll be happy to do one for you.Oh but it's there a semi automatic facility to drop all that stuff into this topic?
Yes, I'd pretty much agree with that, except for not giving the weight you do to the house placements. (The angular Pluto probably takes care of the "low profile" stuff.) And I'd give weight to the Sun-sign.Moon in Pisces con Jup, within a degree: my home circumstances are comfortable, etc
Mercury square Uranus, 7 mins: let's just call this interest in unusual topics
Pluto at IC in RA: radical discord in family of origin
Chiron con MC, trine Nep: not quite sure what to make of this, perhaps I should have become a doctor or therapist, but for
Sun in 12th trine Saturn in 8th: inclined to keep a low profile
Jim Eshelman
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Re: Josh
These notes on your Sidereal Natal Horoscope are provided for your reference and study. They are not a full interpretation of your birth chart; rather, they are building blocks from which a full interpretation can be built.
Each factor listed below contributes to your character. These paragraphs commonly repeat or contradict each other. (We all have contradictions.) Though it does not take an astrologer to fuse these factors into a balanced picture of you and your life, it does require knowledge of human behavior and the ways that people support and sabotage themselves. Knowing yourself is a life-long undertaking. I encourage you to read through these notes, feeling your way through the interweaving ideas and reflecting on what you know of yourself.
The paragraphs are brief. I have sought to pack in everything essential, to use a few words to imply much more. Not every phrase will apply, of course. Some will be more important than others; but the gist of each section should clearly reflect truth about you. When you have spent time with this and have new questions, consult your astrologer to discuss them.
Character is destiny. Who you are determines the life that is yours to unfold. “Know thyself” is the key.
ANGULAR PLANETS
Pluto opposite Midheaven (0°34')
Social outliers needing to be authentically themselves, without labels or arbitrary standards or expectations. Eccentric, antisocial, outrageous; won’t melt into the conventional collective. Singularly unique in their context, on their own path (vulnerable to persecution). Gentle, inoffensive, innocent, shy.
SUN in GEMINI
Acute nervous system. Speed, rhythm, variety (dispersion). More reason than belief. Courageous. Egalitarian; rejects forced stratification: “What’s expected” often makes no sense to them. Play, youthful; needs affection, connection; feels loneliness deeply, often alienated. Music, arts, business. Mechanical, technical.
Sun trine Saturn (1°38')
Effective survivor, works hard, few luxuries; prefers modest accommodations. Authority and other parent-based issues to overcome. Serious; yet good sense of humor. Struggles with self-sufficiency can block progress. More inclined to reaction than action.
MOON in PISCES
Most truly themselves when being someone else. Dramatizes a personal fiction; “big fish” confidence (self-important, airs?). Love having a “secret side.” Divas. Emotionally driven (haunted). Fascinated with the unknown. Religious thinking style. Faith, commitment to beliefs or vision. Judgmental. Hardened personal reality (stuck patterns).
Moon conjunct Jupiter (0°51')
Ambitious, desires success, aspires to take the lead. A natural ‘host,’ likes to play ringmaster in all life areas including in social and sexual hospitality. Usually good-humored, entertaining, kind, generous. Drawn to quality, desires only the best (things & circumstances) for self and loved ones. Strong beliefs (often religious or patriotic intensity, moralistic, judgmental). Social elitism (possible feigned superiority, aristocratic conceit).
Moon octile Mercury (0°44')
Intellect fused with emotion (especially subconscious patterns): Astute, intuitive, strategic, cagey. Personality led by intellect & nervous system. Easily absorbs knowledge. Under duress, “reasonableness” competes with reactive emotion.
Moon octile Uranus (0°52')
Intellectually rebellious, roving, curious, inquiring. Not wholly comfortable with outside guidance. Original, futuristic, needing variety. Free-spirited: psychologically lives outside convention. Subject to tensions, emotional stress.
MARS in LEO
Strong, courageous, decisive, self-confident; chutzpah. Upbeat energy. Pragmatic idealist. Leap in to help (whatever is needed); takes charge as needed (autocratic?). Observant, knows what’s going on, reads situations well. Sexually ardent, bold, forthright (often, but not always, the aggressor).
Venus square Mars (2°23')
Passion (in all senses), feels powerfully about things. Strong sexual passions mature early, continue late, rarely encumbered by too many conditions. Broadly fun-loving, socially active, loves romance: interesting, likable, sociable, horny people. Relationships, often picked for ferocity, easily hit conflict, strain, or burnout.
Mars conjunct Pluto (2°53')
Normally well-mannered, congenial, even docile behavior sits atop a stockpile of explosive force. It may be (1) suppressed, blocked personal power, (2) owned, disciplined, available personal power, or (3) pathologized, brutal, destructive power. (Health in this is reflected in how freely appropriate anger is expressed.) This enormous force (especially physical force) must be expressed somehow, e.g., (1) directly, (2) attracting violence, or (3) eruptive health crises. Sexual energies explosive or poured into driven work. Vulnerable to burnout. Sensitive to pressure or coercion; pot-stirrers, resistant to outside control, defiant of arbitrary restrictions; willing to live “outside the norm” on social patterning. In a productive, on-track life: a mark of genius and distinctive creativity, acutely alive with a quiet energy; the others are trouble, can’t seem to avoid breaking or upsetting something.
Mars square Uranus (5°02')
Uncompromisingly individualist. Bold, distinctive characters. Brutally honest, takes risks, challenges accepted ideas (actions may challenge the world to try to stop them). Always into something new, often offbeat. Resourceful (quick astute assessment of situations), shows initiative. Sexually uninhibited, enthusiastic. Trusts own instincts more than outside advice.
Mercury square Mars (5°10')
Mind is quick, dynamic, strategic. Fast physical and mental responses. Forthright, direct; independent of thought, enjoys argument. Creative. Quick wit, edgy humor. Irritable, nervous frustration, fault-finding, stubborn, opinionated. Vulnerability to addiction.
MERCURY in TAURUS
Speech is harmonious, gracious, calming, poetic. Light-hearted, pleasant, good-humored, entertaining. Deep and curious mind, given to study, curious about life’s mysteries (Eros dominates the thinking). Strong on artistic expression and making beautiful things (more fine craft than fine art).
Mercury square Uranus (0°08')
Independent thinker. Curiosity and investigative spirit in most things. Mind unfettered by formality and standards, solves problems and integrates data more intuitively. Rejects linearity, lacks rigor in learning. Many interests, diverse, often unusual (including astrology or occultism). Speech engages others’ attention, usually has something interesting to say; challenges convention or authority, dares to speak despite consequences. Gentle rebellious behavior (“bad boy”) seems rooted in, “Don’t tell me how to think.” Socially odd, but not ostracized for it.
Mercury conjunct Venus (2°47')
Gracious expression, charmer, persuasive, maybe even a “sweet talker.” Light-hearted, pleasant. Delights in learning (learns easily). Probably a happy childhood; retains a playful, childlike sense, a charm of immaturity.
Mercury octile Jupiter (1°35')
Loves ideas and learning. Comfortable with words. Well-formed speech infers a good education. Good-tempered, kind; may seem shallow. Optimistic fervent thinking. Good business potential (from luck more than skill?). Always looking for the next opportunity or break.
VENUS in TAURUS
Gentle, kind. Feels intensely (moody). Lives in a romantic or fantasy world. Affectionate, devoted, desires tenderness, sympathetic. Eros dominates. Wants to enjoy love and all pleasure from its many forms. Devoted: friendship important. Indulgent, gratifies desires readily. Artistic, aesthetic. Graceful. Avoids harsh, vulgar, violent, painful.
Venus square Uranus (2°39')
Pleasure drives are free of social convention or taboo, allowing enjoyment from a wide variety of social and sexual experiences. Approaches friendship, love, sex, and other pleasure on their own terms, with a deep instinct for flexibility and freedom from artificial constraint. Socially popular, friendly, engaging, and well-liked, in response to their lightly flirtatious, genial, roguish style. (Underlying innocence and vulnerability are often masked by their social “character.”) Often requires distance from intimacy or depersonalizes affection, which can strain conventional pairings. Usually optimistic for society’s future with a deep instinct toward a less Puritanical, more open social fabric.
JUPITER
Jupiter octile Uranus (1°43')
Mind interested in / suited to science, philosophical inquiry, and self-inquiry (knack for astrology). Success through unlikely paths. Instinct for exceptionalism. Ingenuity, insight (sees outside the usual maps, pathways, and systems). Unbeholden to artificial rank or class; resists authority (conflict with authority), speaks truth to power, stands against injustice, egalitarian (social activist).
Each factor listed below contributes to your character. These paragraphs commonly repeat or contradict each other. (We all have contradictions.) Though it does not take an astrologer to fuse these factors into a balanced picture of you and your life, it does require knowledge of human behavior and the ways that people support and sabotage themselves. Knowing yourself is a life-long undertaking. I encourage you to read through these notes, feeling your way through the interweaving ideas and reflecting on what you know of yourself.
The paragraphs are brief. I have sought to pack in everything essential, to use a few words to imply much more. Not every phrase will apply, of course. Some will be more important than others; but the gist of each section should clearly reflect truth about you. When you have spent time with this and have new questions, consult your astrologer to discuss them.
Character is destiny. Who you are determines the life that is yours to unfold. “Know thyself” is the key.
ANGULAR PLANETS
Pluto opposite Midheaven (0°34')
Social outliers needing to be authentically themselves, without labels or arbitrary standards or expectations. Eccentric, antisocial, outrageous; won’t melt into the conventional collective. Singularly unique in their context, on their own path (vulnerable to persecution). Gentle, inoffensive, innocent, shy.
SUN in GEMINI
Acute nervous system. Speed, rhythm, variety (dispersion). More reason than belief. Courageous. Egalitarian; rejects forced stratification: “What’s expected” often makes no sense to them. Play, youthful; needs affection, connection; feels loneliness deeply, often alienated. Music, arts, business. Mechanical, technical.
Sun trine Saturn (1°38')
Effective survivor, works hard, few luxuries; prefers modest accommodations. Authority and other parent-based issues to overcome. Serious; yet good sense of humor. Struggles with self-sufficiency can block progress. More inclined to reaction than action.
MOON in PISCES
Most truly themselves when being someone else. Dramatizes a personal fiction; “big fish” confidence (self-important, airs?). Love having a “secret side.” Divas. Emotionally driven (haunted). Fascinated with the unknown. Religious thinking style. Faith, commitment to beliefs or vision. Judgmental. Hardened personal reality (stuck patterns).
Moon conjunct Jupiter (0°51')
Ambitious, desires success, aspires to take the lead. A natural ‘host,’ likes to play ringmaster in all life areas including in social and sexual hospitality. Usually good-humored, entertaining, kind, generous. Drawn to quality, desires only the best (things & circumstances) for self and loved ones. Strong beliefs (often religious or patriotic intensity, moralistic, judgmental). Social elitism (possible feigned superiority, aristocratic conceit).
Moon octile Mercury (0°44')
Intellect fused with emotion (especially subconscious patterns): Astute, intuitive, strategic, cagey. Personality led by intellect & nervous system. Easily absorbs knowledge. Under duress, “reasonableness” competes with reactive emotion.
Moon octile Uranus (0°52')
Intellectually rebellious, roving, curious, inquiring. Not wholly comfortable with outside guidance. Original, futuristic, needing variety. Free-spirited: psychologically lives outside convention. Subject to tensions, emotional stress.
MARS in LEO
Strong, courageous, decisive, self-confident; chutzpah. Upbeat energy. Pragmatic idealist. Leap in to help (whatever is needed); takes charge as needed (autocratic?). Observant, knows what’s going on, reads situations well. Sexually ardent, bold, forthright (often, but not always, the aggressor).
Venus square Mars (2°23')
Passion (in all senses), feels powerfully about things. Strong sexual passions mature early, continue late, rarely encumbered by too many conditions. Broadly fun-loving, socially active, loves romance: interesting, likable, sociable, horny people. Relationships, often picked for ferocity, easily hit conflict, strain, or burnout.
Mars conjunct Pluto (2°53')
Normally well-mannered, congenial, even docile behavior sits atop a stockpile of explosive force. It may be (1) suppressed, blocked personal power, (2) owned, disciplined, available personal power, or (3) pathologized, brutal, destructive power. (Health in this is reflected in how freely appropriate anger is expressed.) This enormous force (especially physical force) must be expressed somehow, e.g., (1) directly, (2) attracting violence, or (3) eruptive health crises. Sexual energies explosive or poured into driven work. Vulnerable to burnout. Sensitive to pressure or coercion; pot-stirrers, resistant to outside control, defiant of arbitrary restrictions; willing to live “outside the norm” on social patterning. In a productive, on-track life: a mark of genius and distinctive creativity, acutely alive with a quiet energy; the others are trouble, can’t seem to avoid breaking or upsetting something.
Mars square Uranus (5°02')
Uncompromisingly individualist. Bold, distinctive characters. Brutally honest, takes risks, challenges accepted ideas (actions may challenge the world to try to stop them). Always into something new, often offbeat. Resourceful (quick astute assessment of situations), shows initiative. Sexually uninhibited, enthusiastic. Trusts own instincts more than outside advice.
Mercury square Mars (5°10')
Mind is quick, dynamic, strategic. Fast physical and mental responses. Forthright, direct; independent of thought, enjoys argument. Creative. Quick wit, edgy humor. Irritable, nervous frustration, fault-finding, stubborn, opinionated. Vulnerability to addiction.
MERCURY in TAURUS
Speech is harmonious, gracious, calming, poetic. Light-hearted, pleasant, good-humored, entertaining. Deep and curious mind, given to study, curious about life’s mysteries (Eros dominates the thinking). Strong on artistic expression and making beautiful things (more fine craft than fine art).
Mercury square Uranus (0°08')
Independent thinker. Curiosity and investigative spirit in most things. Mind unfettered by formality and standards, solves problems and integrates data more intuitively. Rejects linearity, lacks rigor in learning. Many interests, diverse, often unusual (including astrology or occultism). Speech engages others’ attention, usually has something interesting to say; challenges convention or authority, dares to speak despite consequences. Gentle rebellious behavior (“bad boy”) seems rooted in, “Don’t tell me how to think.” Socially odd, but not ostracized for it.
Mercury conjunct Venus (2°47')
Gracious expression, charmer, persuasive, maybe even a “sweet talker.” Light-hearted, pleasant. Delights in learning (learns easily). Probably a happy childhood; retains a playful, childlike sense, a charm of immaturity.
Mercury octile Jupiter (1°35')
Loves ideas and learning. Comfortable with words. Well-formed speech infers a good education. Good-tempered, kind; may seem shallow. Optimistic fervent thinking. Good business potential (from luck more than skill?). Always looking for the next opportunity or break.
VENUS in TAURUS
Gentle, kind. Feels intensely (moody). Lives in a romantic or fantasy world. Affectionate, devoted, desires tenderness, sympathetic. Eros dominates. Wants to enjoy love and all pleasure from its many forms. Devoted: friendship important. Indulgent, gratifies desires readily. Artistic, aesthetic. Graceful. Avoids harsh, vulgar, violent, painful.
Venus square Uranus (2°39')
Pleasure drives are free of social convention or taboo, allowing enjoyment from a wide variety of social and sexual experiences. Approaches friendship, love, sex, and other pleasure on their own terms, with a deep instinct for flexibility and freedom from artificial constraint. Socially popular, friendly, engaging, and well-liked, in response to their lightly flirtatious, genial, roguish style. (Underlying innocence and vulnerability are often masked by their social “character.”) Often requires distance from intimacy or depersonalizes affection, which can strain conventional pairings. Usually optimistic for society’s future with a deep instinct toward a less Puritanical, more open social fabric.
JUPITER
Jupiter octile Uranus (1°43')
Mind interested in / suited to science, philosophical inquiry, and self-inquiry (knack for astrology). Success through unlikely paths. Instinct for exceptionalism. Ingenuity, insight (sees outside the usual maps, pathways, and systems). Unbeholden to artificial rank or class; resists authority (conflict with authority), speaks truth to power, stands against injustice, egalitarian (social activist).
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Re: Josh
Spoken like a true Leo.Jupiter Sets at Dawn wrote: Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:46 pmCould there maybe be some to do MY bidding??I also wanted to get more serious about studying Western sidereal and developing software that would do my bidding...
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Happy birthday!
Josh (Jambo), I see you visited the site a few days ago, so perhaps you'll see this also.
Happy birthday!
I don't know if we ever learned where you are currently living. Are you still in or near Winona? If so, then have have some dramatic (and probably most positive) shifts coming in your new year: Your Sidereal Solar Return has Pluto exactly on MC and Uranus near Asc. Additionally, for any location, Moon is within 1° of opposite Jupiter (repeating an important pattern in your birth chart).
In any case - wherever you are today - happy birthday.
Happy birthday!
I don't know if we ever learned where you are currently living. Are you still in or near Winona? If so, then have have some dramatic (and probably most positive) shifts coming in your new year: Your Sidereal Solar Return has Pluto exactly on MC and Uranus near Asc. Additionally, for any location, Moon is within 1° of opposite Jupiter (repeating an important pattern in your birth chart).
In any case - wherever you are today - happy birthday.
Jim Eshelman
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Re: Josh
Josh, happy birthday! Another year has rolled around for you - hope things are going well.
As I'm sure you know, you're in the middle of transiting Neptune square natal Sun after just coming out of your Second Saturn Return first pass. (My wife is 17 days older than you, so the latter transit is on my mind and in hers and my discussion a lot these days.)
Enjoy the new year!
As I'm sure you know, you're in the middle of transiting Neptune square natal Sun after just coming out of your Second Saturn Return first pass. (My wife is 17 days older than you, so the latter transit is on my mind and in hers and my discussion a lot these days.)
Enjoy the new year!
Jim Eshelman
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