Jun 24: Charles Whitman & Mindy Kaling

[Jim Eshelman]

Whitman, Charles. June 24, 1941, 1:50 AM EST, Lake Worth, FL (AA).
Kaling, Mindy. June 24, 1979, 4:10 AM EDT, Waltham, MA (AA).


NOTE: Original note on this page read, "At the moment, for this birthday I haven't found anyone - male or female - of sufficient fame or eminence for whom we have B level birth data or better." - To explain the subsequent posts on the thread.

[Jupiter Sets at Dawn]

Feels like you bias toward entertainers like Kaling. Is that intentional?

[Jim Eshelman]

I bias away from entertainers in general, provided there is someone else as eminent. In her case, she scores well on a couple of my criteria: First, she's an incredibly powerful woman whose recent successes as a film maker are going to put her far past most actors in long-term importance. Second, she is likely to be well-known by people much younger than me, which matches my goal that when I eventually publish this catalog (as part of a larger work) it will have continued relevance for 50-100 years.

There are a few days where nobody is going to have that kind of long-term recognition factor but, when I can find it, I want to tap it, all other things being relevant.

Charles Whitman, of course, is not an entertainer. I am trying to include as many well-0timed charts of major murderers as I can.

[Jim Eshelman]

My procedure is to start each day with the Wikipedia list of all births (of people documented in Wikipedia) on that date.

I visually scan the list for people I personally recognize. This is important for two reasons: (1) I will eventually use it as the primary source of famous charts that I visually want to scan to write about one or another astrological factor. If I can't find someone I immediately recognize, I'll move on to others, but, when I write my comprehensive Sidereal masterwork I know I'll never think to use them as an example because I won't know who they are. (2) If I recognize them, that at least takes them out of the "entirely obscure" category, somewhat increasing the chance others will recognize them.

I won't use sports figures unless they are otherwise important, with likely long-term (decades or centuries long) recognizability.

All other things being equal, I will pick a non-entertainer over an entertainer, just to increase the diversity of the mix. But the other person I pick should ideally (not absolutely, but ideally) have as much recognizability as the entertainer and the chance to be long-tern historically relevant.

Within this, I bias toward taking the latest-born examples I can find instead of the earliest. This is to overcome the bias that I mostly recognize people from decades past that may seem obscure to people much younger than me. There will always be obscurities to one reader or another, but I can reduce these going forward by biasing toward later births.

We have to have AA, A, or B rated birth data, and I may veto if I consider a birth source seriously questionable.

Once this is all shaken out, and I have one or more men and one or more women for the day, I'll pick based on who I think is the strongest figure in the mix. In a very few cases, I've made the decision based on who has a more interesting chart (and therefore has something interesting to examine) but mostly I try to make the decision on who to use without looking at the chart.

Aside from that (and necessarily setting aside my rule on gender equity), I am including (usually as a supplemental third figure) all U.S. presidents with reliable birth times, all the Beatles, and all the first generation primary Sidereal pioneers (and a few other astrologers that have significantly contributed to Sidereal astrology, knowingly or unknowingly).

[Jupiter Sets at Dawn]

Ok, I like your criterion.