I just noticed something about the Sidereal ingresses for JFK's assassination that I've never noticed before. Not sure how I missed it, except in the thick "woods" of details.
The first chart below is the primary solar ingress for JFK's assassination - the Capsolar (for Washington, DC). The second is the primary lunar ingress, the Liblunar (since the Caplunar is dormant). The first is a horoscope, the second a mundoscope so that you can see the details. - Notice that they are essentially identical, dominated by a foreground exact Jupiter-Pluto opposition and having, as the only other foreground planet, a moderately foreground Moon.
This continues to beg the question... just exactly what happened that day? (These are not typical aspects of any other presidential death.)
Two JFK ingresses
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As a slight side-ways diversion from the main purpose of the thread, I might as well use this thread to pose the one big question that remains in my mind about the Kennedy assassination - the one thing that I think is the key to all the other unknowns:
What in the heck was going on with Jack Ruby?
Ruby was born April 25, 1911, in Chicago. No hour is known (and some sources get his birth month wrong, but April is correct). I've been sitting on a speculative time of 11:30 for him which has some remarkable features in every method I use to look at it, and seems a likely time just for something extraordinary and life altering happening to him in Dallas on November 24, 1963, at 11:21 AM when, on live TV, he committed the first degree murder of Lee Harvey Oswald.
Why in the world did he really do that?
I tried not to force my speculative time to incorporate any particular theory of his motives, but only the idea that something involving violence and a voluntary complete alteration of his life occurred in that moment. With no birth time, almost all we have is transiting Sun square his Mars that day. With the violent, life-altering charts that arise of about 11:30 AM, I have to say they do not match his professed motive - to save Mrs. Kennedy the pain of having to return to testify - and they do look out and out like the actions of a hitman.
I'm not sure if Ruby then knew he had the cancer from which he died three years later. If so, that would figure into his motives.
BTW, I did not use his SSR for rectification purposes, but I suggest you look at his SSR for this event.
What in the heck was going on with Jack Ruby?
Ruby was born April 25, 1911, in Chicago. No hour is known (and some sources get his birth month wrong, but April is correct). I've been sitting on a speculative time of 11:30 for him which has some remarkable features in every method I use to look at it, and seems a likely time just for something extraordinary and life altering happening to him in Dallas on November 24, 1963, at 11:21 AM when, on live TV, he committed the first degree murder of Lee Harvey Oswald.
Why in the world did he really do that?
I tried not to force my speculative time to incorporate any particular theory of his motives, but only the idea that something involving violence and a voluntary complete alteration of his life occurred in that moment. With no birth time, almost all we have is transiting Sun square his Mars that day. With the violent, life-altering charts that arise of about 11:30 AM, I have to say they do not match his professed motive - to save Mrs. Kennedy the pain of having to return to testify - and they do look out and out like the actions of a hitman.
I'm not sure if Ruby then knew he had the cancer from which he died three years later. If so, that would figure into his motives.
BTW, I did not use his SSR for rectification purposes, but I suggest you look at his SSR for this event.
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Jupiter Sets At Dawn wrote:Yeah, my father and I were watching when it happened. My mother didn't believe us till there was a replay a few minutes later. "They wouldn't show that on TV." That's why we have a ten second delay on live TV. My mother expected I would have nightmares, but I didn't. Maybe if it had been broadcast in color.
I believe Jack Ruby didn't know anything about the cancer that killed him at the time he shot Oswald. If the cancer had been known at the time of the trial it would have come out then. I think that was a myth developed later after he died. I think he did believe he'd been "injected" with cancer cells while he was in prison before the verdict was overturned and that's how he got the cancer.
It would be interesting to know if any of his brothers or other family got cancer.
I think Ruby fully expected to be shot and killed at the courthouse, and he took his dogs with him in the car because he lived alone and wanted them discovered and cared for.
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I have suspected that his pulmonary embolism wasn't from lung cancer, as claimed (or it wasn't a pulmonary embolism at all); but I don't have enough medical facts on the matter to know for sure. It seems silly (especially in 1967) to fight to overthrow a nice electric chair sentence just so you can undergo a slow, prolonged, painful death by cancer.
Oh, except he seemed not to be sick very long...
Oh, except he seemed not to be sick very long...
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Jupiter Sets At Dawn wrote:Yeah. Most cancer's only slow if it's discovered early. Used to be that didn't happen and people died quickly after a short illness like dogs do now - nobody knows they're sick till somebody notices a big lump. Just getting older, slowing down. Even the vet doesn't usually see it. By the time anybody realizes, it's too late to do anything but keep them comfortable and spend time with them before they're gone.