Posted Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:24 pm by Jupiter Sets At Dawn
I'm starting a new topic for discussion of the US Market - Wall St - investing and so on.
There's a good article in The Atlantic about Uber and the current bubble in tech stocks+Silicon Valley stocks. Steve I think this will interest you. It discusses Uber, which the Market believes is worth about $70 billion, but nobody else agrees, and Theranos, which blew up in investors' faces. It also points out some similarities with conditions now and back in 2001.
Although it doesn't mention it by name, I think this is a description of Neptune's operation on markets that doesn't (yet) reach to the underlying economy.
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Re: US Market Forecasting
Posted Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:50 pm by Jim Eshelman
Moving to Mundane Astrology forum.
First impression: Under Jupiter-Uranus, technology is going to surge this hear and have one of its strongest periods ever. Next year, however, might be a different matter.
It might be worth looking at the larger picture when the dot-com bubble burst. Anyone want to suggest what date we should focus on for that?
Moving to Mundane Astrology forum.
First impression: Under Jupiter-Uranus, technology is going to surge this hear and have one of its strongest periods ever. Next year, however, might be a different matter.
It might be worth looking at the larger picture when the dot-com bubble burst. Anyone want to suggest what date we should focus on for that?
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Re: US Market Forecasting
Posted Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:07 pm by Jim Eshelman
From what I can see on a quick look, the "popping" was actually a slow dissolution, over a couple of years. However, a telltale moment was probably when the NASDAQ topped on March 10, 2000, after which it gradually lost nearly 80% of its value.
Looking at the exact day for broader indications, I note that Jupiter and Saturn were both in Aries, and not yet at their conjunction. Jupiter was square Neptune, usually a sign of the inflation itself (blowing the bubble), not of the let-down.
But let's see how the ingresses performed...
The U.S. Capsolar (Washington) is famous because this was the 2000 election Capsolar. The main ting is that Pluto is exactly (0°06') on MC, with Mars about 5° below Asc and a bit of Uranus. Not bad for "popping a bubble."
A more treacherous chart, though, is the Cansolar from July 1999. It seems Cansolars have a lot to say about U.S. economic trends - there are patterns in the Cansolar for all major panics, for example. The 1999 Cansolar shows disillusionment and loss of money: Mars opposite Jupiter across the horizon, with both square Neptune (0°05'from square Asc). There are other appropriate indicators (including Mercury on M for business, and a partile foreground Saturn-Uranus square), but this stands out to me. Notice the mundane Mercury-Jupiter square (half a degree that evidently meant "good for business" for a while, since the NASDAQ kept expanding for another seven months.
Speaking of inflation, the top occurred under a Caplunar that is dormant for Washington but, but NYC, has Neptune minutes from IC closely square Jupiter. The Arilunar March 8, covering the top itself, has (for Washington) Jupiter setting exactly, squared by Neptune. On the day of the NASDAQ top, CapQ MC for Washington was 10° Capricorn, so the Jupiter-Neptune at 10-11° Aries-Capricorn is right on the angles; but the writing was on the wall, as progressed Capsolar Moon was 16' from conjunct Saturn. Pluto transited within 21' of Capsolar MC.
From what I can see on a quick look, the "popping" was actually a slow dissolution, over a couple of years. However, a telltale moment was probably when the NASDAQ topped on March 10, 2000, after which it gradually lost nearly 80% of its value.
Looking at the exact day for broader indications, I note that Jupiter and Saturn were both in Aries, and not yet at their conjunction. Jupiter was square Neptune, usually a sign of the inflation itself (blowing the bubble), not of the let-down.
But let's see how the ingresses performed...
The U.S. Capsolar (Washington) is famous because this was the 2000 election Capsolar. The main ting is that Pluto is exactly (0°06') on MC, with Mars about 5° below Asc and a bit of Uranus. Not bad for "popping a bubble."
A more treacherous chart, though, is the Cansolar from July 1999. It seems Cansolars have a lot to say about U.S. economic trends - there are patterns in the Cansolar for all major panics, for example. The 1999 Cansolar shows disillusionment and loss of money: Mars opposite Jupiter across the horizon, with both square Neptune (0°05'from square Asc). There are other appropriate indicators (including Mercury on M for business, and a partile foreground Saturn-Uranus square), but this stands out to me. Notice the mundane Mercury-Jupiter square (half a degree that evidently meant "good for business" for a while, since the NASDAQ kept expanding for another seven months.
Speaking of inflation, the top occurred under a Caplunar that is dormant for Washington but, but NYC, has Neptune minutes from IC closely square Jupiter. The Arilunar March 8, covering the top itself, has (for Washington) Jupiter setting exactly, squared by Neptune. On the day of the NASDAQ top, CapQ MC for Washington was 10° Capricorn, so the Jupiter-Neptune at 10-11° Aries-Capricorn is right on the angles; but the writing was on the wall, as progressed Capsolar Moon was 16' from conjunct Saturn. Pluto transited within 21' of Capsolar MC.
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Re: US Market Forecasting
Posted Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:28 pm by Jim Eshelman
I was curious whether there were indications in Silicon Valley itself, so I relocated the charts to Menlo Park, CA. It was a financially strong year promised, with Jupiter on the Capsolar IC and a Sun-Mercury conjunction on EP; but. there was a snake in the grass, with a worldwide Moon-Saturn conjunction.
The prevailing lunar ingress was the February 23 Liblunar, with Mars closely rising. I suppose there was, indeed, a mixture of effort and adrenaline.
Daily indications aren't overly strong. The CanQ is the best chart if we are looking for crisis (but is this correct? The event at the moment was an all-time record high! The decline began the next day.) CanQ Ascendant opposes Pluto, and CanQ MC conjoins Uranus.
I'm not excessively impressed with the charts for Menlo Park.
I was curious whether there were indications in Silicon Valley itself, so I relocated the charts to Menlo Park, CA. It was a financially strong year promised, with Jupiter on the Capsolar IC and a Sun-Mercury conjunction on EP; but. there was a snake in the grass, with a worldwide Moon-Saturn conjunction.
The prevailing lunar ingress was the February 23 Liblunar, with Mars closely rising. I suppose there was, indeed, a mixture of effort and adrenaline.
Daily indications aren't overly strong. The CanQ is the best chart if we are looking for crisis (but is this correct? The event at the moment was an all-time record high! The decline began the next day.) CanQ Ascendant opposes Pluto, and CanQ MC conjoins Uranus.
I'm not excessively impressed with the charts for Menlo Park.
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Re: US Market Forecasting
Posted Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:37 pm by SteveS
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I will look in detail at Jim’s financial panics analysis later, but I already see par-excellent symbolism for this bubble top and panic in 2000. The 2000 Capsolar featured a tight approaching Moon-Saturn. It appears to me the exact top occurred when CapQ Moon was partile cnj CapQ Saturn. Then the 2000 CanQ shows par-excellent symbolism for the full-blown financial Panic. Jim and I correlated strong Neptune symbolism for financial panics, see Jim’s full analysis for financial panics. In the 2000 Cansolar we see an approaching Moon-Neptune cnj, and when CanQ Moon partile cnj Neptune late in 2000, the panic was full blown with realization the party was over for the tech guys drunk on this party. I think we need to look at San Jose, Ca 2000 Capsolar since this is capital for tech stocks. Without a doubt, the main event for 2000 for our nation was this Nasdaq bubble.
Note the tight Moon-Mercury-Saturn cnj in the 2018 DC Capsolar. And then the tight mundo midpoint of Sun/Pluto=IC, and then Uranus partile cnj WP-partile 90 Sun. And if this is not enough nasty symbolism, take a look at what t. Saturn does to 2018 Capsolar Moon for 2018. T. Saturn makes an exact cnj of Capsolar Moon Jan 29, July 14, Nov 7th, partile conjuncting Mercury as well. There is going to be some type of major shit storm hit DC/NATION 2018, no doubt in my mind about this major shit storm.
Oh, I just noticed Jim has already posted about local silicon valley for this bubble. Thanks JSAD for bringing this bubble to our attention.
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I will look in detail at Jim’s financial panics analysis later, but I already see par-excellent symbolism for this bubble top and panic in 2000. The 2000 Capsolar featured a tight approaching Moon-Saturn. It appears to me the exact top occurred when CapQ Moon was partile cnj CapQ Saturn. Then the 2000 CanQ shows par-excellent symbolism for the full-blown financial Panic. Jim and I correlated strong Neptune symbolism for financial panics, see Jim’s full analysis for financial panics. In the 2000 Cansolar we see an approaching Moon-Neptune cnj, and when CanQ Moon partile cnj Neptune late in 2000, the panic was full blown with realization the party was over for the tech guys drunk on this party. I think we need to look at San Jose, Ca 2000 Capsolar since this is capital for tech stocks. Without a doubt, the main event for 2000 for our nation was this Nasdaq bubble.
Note the tight Moon-Mercury-Saturn cnj in the 2018 DC Capsolar. And then the tight mundo midpoint of Sun/Pluto=IC, and then Uranus partile cnj WP-partile 90 Sun. And if this is not enough nasty symbolism, take a look at what t. Saturn does to 2018 Capsolar Moon for 2018. T. Saturn makes an exact cnj of Capsolar Moon Jan 29, July 14, Nov 7th, partile conjuncting Mercury as well. There is going to be some type of major shit storm hit DC/NATION 2018, no doubt in my mind about this major shit storm.
Oh, I just noticed Jim has already posted about local silicon valley for this bubble. Thanks JSAD for bringing this bubble to our attention.
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Re: US Market Forecasting
Posted Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:58 pm by Jim Eshelman
2018 CAPSOLAR
Uranus Pluto (Sun Venus). Moon-Mercury Mercury-Saturn Sun-Venus-Uranus Su/Pl Ve/Pl.
Pluto sq. Asc (0°08')
Uranus on WP (0°42')
Sun on IC (3°08')
Venus on IC (4°44')
-- Sun-Uranus sq. (0°21')
-- Venus-Uranus sq. (0°25' in mundo)
-- Sun-Venus conj. (1°25')
-- Su/Pl on IC (0°08')
-- Ve/Pl on IC (0°56')
Moon-Mercury conj. (0°51')
Moon-Saturn conj. (0°57' in mundo)
2018 CAPSOLAR
Uranus Pluto (Sun Venus). Moon-Mercury Mercury-Saturn Sun-Venus-Uranus Su/Pl Ve/Pl.
Pluto sq. Asc (0°08')
Uranus on WP (0°42')
Sun on IC (3°08')
Venus on IC (4°44')
-- Sun-Uranus sq. (0°21')
-- Venus-Uranus sq. (0°25' in mundo)
-- Sun-Venus conj. (1°25')
-- Su/Pl on IC (0°08')
-- Ve/Pl on IC (0°56')
Moon-Mercury conj. (0°51')
Moon-Saturn conj. (0°57' in mundo)
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Re: US Market Forecasting
Posted Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:02 pm by SteveS
Jim, you and I have looked at a lot of historical DC Capsolars. Without checking for sure, I bet DC has never seen a triple exact cnj of t. Saturn to its Capsolar Moon.
PS, this triple hit of t. Saturn exact cnj 2018 Capsolar Moon-Mercury applies to the whole world.
Jim, you and I have looked at a lot of historical DC Capsolars. Without checking for sure, I bet DC has never seen a triple exact cnj of t. Saturn to its Capsolar Moon.
PS, this triple hit of t. Saturn exact cnj 2018 Capsolar Moon-Mercury applies to the whole world.