Libra + Hub Moon scientists?

[Jim Eshelman]

I'm sorting my 900 practice charts by Sun-sign and then, within that, by Moon quadruplicity. (The number of names are too large, have to be broken down somehow, and the Moon quadruplicity as a demarcation is proving really interesting.)

There are some surprises - some things to track down. For example, nobody has historically associated Libra with science, despite the Saturn character (and, similarly, no history of this association in Tropical Scorpio). And yet, with a Hub Moon (which tends to mark those who make enduring contributions) there is a significant bunch of scientists like I haven't seen other than in Aquarius. Consider George Boole (who created the underpinnings of modern computer logic), Marie Curie, Jonas Salk, Carl Sagan - and add both Timothy Learn and Terence McKenna plus Michel Gauquelin. The Libra+Hub list is also significant for having essentially NO national leaders / major political figures (almost unheard of in any of these breakouts), the only two examples being almost a stretch - Laura Bush, who served as First Lady, and William Penn, who founded a whole state.

This, of course, is quite the opposite of Aries, where the political figures are piled up - but not with a hub Moon. (The only Aries+Hub political leader in my set is Cory Booker.) It's especially the Spoke Moons where we find the traditional Aries political dominance, with names including Empress Catherine II, Pres. Thomas Jefferson, Fuhrer Adolf Hitler, Catherine de Medici, Henri Philippe Petain, Pope Benedict XVI, and Deputy Fuhrer Rudolph Hess. (Not true for Libra + Spoke, where the most we will find is one U.S. president and a recent Secretary of State.)

Back to Libra+Hub and scientists... I'm not sure what might push a block of Libras in that direction. The Hub Moon part is clear enough. The Libra elements that come to mind are Saturn traits in general (but none that have been isolated as specific character traits of Libras) and a broad futuristic humanitarian spirit (when you look at the names, they were mostly actively giving something to the world). Ah, I suppose futurism might be the clue. I have called Libras "optimistic futurists" who are blithely confident of a better world ahead. Might this be the trait in these people? I'm not sure...

[Jim Eshelman]

Each of these breakouts seems to have something unique about it, at least in terms of what groups of occupation appear.

For Libra + Spoke Moon, the main thing I notice is a stark lack of musical figures. In my collection of 900 notable nativities, Helen Reddy (the inadvertent feminist icon) is the sole example. OTOH there are more actors than most groups have (especially since I did my best to avoid actors unless there weren't other ready choices), often including those regarded as spectacularly beautiful or uniquely handsome.


Then, with Libra Sun + Rim Moon, we swarm suddenly with leaders of different ranks, including some very powerful ones: Emperor Augustus, Pres. James K. Polk, Pres. Warren G. Harding, Jawaharlal Nehru, Chiang Kai-Shek, VP Kamala Harris, Charles Prince of Wales, Sen. Joseph McCarthy, Maria Shriver (who was First Lady of California, besides her other notables). As with Spoke Moons, Libra + Rim is short on music - none at all. (Only Hub Moons brought music to Libra, and at least it had some powerhouses: Chuck Berry, Bonnie Raitt, Grace Slick, K.D. Lang, Tim Rice.)

[hakim]

I read a very interesting article detailing the lack of "interesting" scientists. The gist of the article is basically that people who should be scientists are in professions which are more interesting and less restricted to rules such as the media. Whereas people who were supposed to be in journalism are scientists.

He also makes an interesting point that scientists before 1960's were more dynamic. They could set up an experiment quickly without following unnecessary protocols or procedure and quickly explore the crazy idea they were entertaining in their heads.

Now I just had an idea but not sure whether there is any merit to it. My idea is based on the events surrounding Salk. He invented the polio vaccine, went against the established scientific community, thought more in terms of metaphors and less like a "trained scientist", established trials behind the backs of his other scientist brothers, succeeded in said vaccine then, and this is the key point, he communicated it to the public. I am hinting that there may be some sort of a sensationalism motif like we get now from our news media.

I am sure as much as he was doing it for the future of mankind, he definitely had a hell of a time. So my idea is whether such people with said astrological configuration are found now in other professions more significantly where they are involved with the public in some way like journalism, blogs or media as it is very dynamic. They must also be well-known and extremely good at it.

The key point is that excessive rules and "jumping through hoops" of established scientific community has made such people focus their drive and energy of helping mankind somewhere else where they think their unique character won't be suppressed.