The Beatles

[Jim Eshelman]

Although we have birth data for all the Beatles, one rarely sees it all in one place. This is a goldmine of synastric exploration, and one of the best opportunities to study the enormously complex interchanges of multiple people simultaneously (or interweavingly) interacting.

Here is a batch of data:

Lennon, John. Oct 9, 1940, 6:30 PM BST, Liverpool, England (A).
McCartney, Paul. Jun 18, 1942, 2:00 PM BDST, Liverpool, England (A).
Harrison, George. Feb 24, 1943, 11:42 PM BST, Liverpool, England (AA).
Starr, Ringo. Jul 7, 1940, 12:05 AM BST, Liverpool, England (B).
Sutcliffe, Stu. Jun 23, 1940, 11:25 PM BST, Edinburgh, Scotland (AA).
Martin, Sir George. Jan 3, 1926, 2:29 PM GMT, London, UK (A).

[Jim Eshelman]

Though individual interchanges - especially across so many charts - paints a fragmentary picture, we have to start somewhere. Here is a list of the interchanges I find most important across the charts. (It's practically a universe of synastry all of its own!) Parentheses mark wider aspects that are still of great note but probably should be considered lesser examples.

MOON-ANGLE
Paul McCartney & George Martin

MOON-MOON
John Lennon & George Harrison
John Lennon & Ringo Starr
Ringo Starr & Paul McCartney
(Ringo Starr & George Harrison)

MOON-SUN
George Martin & John Lennon
George Martin & George Harrison

MOON-MERCURY
John Lennon & Paul McCartney

MOON-VENUS
George Martin & John Lennon

MOON-MARS
John Lennon & Paul McCartney [both ways]
John Lennon & Ringo Starr
George Harrison & Paul McCartney
Ringo Starr & Paul McCartney
George Harrison & Ringo Starr

MOON-JUPITER
George Harrison & George Martin
(George Martin & John Lennon)
(Ringo Starr & George Martin)

MOON-URANUS
George Martin & Paul McCartney
George Martin & George Harrison

MOON-PLUTO
John Lennon & Paul McCartney
John Lennon & George Harrison
John Lennon & Ringo Starr
Ringo Starr & Paul McCartney
Ringo Starr & George Harrison [both ways]

SUN-ANGLE
Paul McCartney & Ringo Starr
Paul McCartney & George Martin

SUN-SUN
John Lennon & Ringo Starr
George Martin & Ringo Starr
(John Lennon & George Martin)

SUN-MERCURY
George Harrison & Ringo Starr

SUN-VENUS
George Harrison & John Lennon
Paul McCartney & George Harrison
Paul McCartney & Ringo Starr

SUN-MARS
George Harrison & George Martin

SUN-JUPITER
John Lennon & George Harrison
Ringo Starr & George Harrison
George Martin & George Harrison

SUN-SATURN
George Harrison & Paul McCartney
Paul McCartney & Ringo Starr

SUN-URANUS
John Lennon & Paul McCartney
John Lennon & George Harrison

SUN-NEPTUNE
Paul McCartney & John Lennon

SUN-PLUTO
John Lennon & George Martin
George Martin & Ringo Starr

MERCURY-ANGLE
George Harrison & John Lennon
George Martin & Paul McCartney

MERCURY-MERCURY
George Martin & Ringo Starr
(Ringo Starr & George Harrison)

MERCURY-JUPITER
John Lennon & Ringo Starr
George Harrison & Ringo Starr

MERCURY-NEPTUNE
John Lennon & Ringo Starr

MERCURY-PLUTO
Paul McCartney & John Lennon
Ringo Starr & George Harrison
George Martin & George Harrison

VENUS-ANGLE
George Harrison & Paul McCartney
Paul McCartney & George Martin
George Harrison & Ringo Starr

VENUS-VENUS
George Martin & Paul McCartney
Ringo Starr & George Harrison

VENUS-MARS
George Harrison & John Lennon
John Lennon & George Martin
(Ringo Starr & John Lennon)

VENUS-JUPITER
John Lennon & George Harrison
George Harrison & Paul McCartney
Ringo Starr & Paul McCartney

VENUS-SATURN
John Lernnon & Paul McCartney
John Lennon & George Harrison
(Paul McCartney & George Martin)

VENUS-URANUS
John Lennon & Paul McCartney
George Martin & Ringo Starr

VENUS-NEPTUNE
George Harrison & John Lennon
Ringo Starr & Paul McCartney
Ringo Starr & George Harrison

MARS-ANGLE
George Harrison & John Lennon

MARS-MARS
Ringo Starr & Paul McCartney

MARS-JUPITER
John Lennon & Paul McCartney
Ringo Starr & George Martin
(Paul McCartney & George Martin)

MARS-SATURN
George Martin & Paul McCartney
George Martin & George Harrison

MARS-URANUS
George Martin & Paul McCartney
George Martin & George Harrison

MARS-PLUTO
Paul McCartney & John Lennon
Ringo Starr & John Lennon
Ringo Starr & Paul McCartney [both ways]
Ringo Starr & George Harrison

JUPITER-ANGLE
John Lennon & George Harrison
Ringo Starr & George Harrison
George Martin & George Harrison

SATURN-ANGLE
John Lennon & George Harrison
Ringo Starr & George Harrison

URANUS-ANGLE
George Martin & Paul McCartney
George Martin & Ringo Starr [both ways]

NEPTUNE-ANGLE
John Lennon & Paul McCartney
John Lennon & Ringo Starr
Ringo Starr & Paul McCartney [both ways]

[Jim Eshelman]

Finally... perhaps just an idle plaything - here is something that may not have been shown before: The four-way Composite Chart of the four Beatles:

19°52' Vir - Moon
6°49' Vir - Sun
9°04' Vir - Mercury
18°48' Leo - Venus
5°48' Vir - Mars
16°26' Tau - Jupiter
0°18' Tau - Saturn
4°21' Tau - Uranus
2°57' Vir - Neptune
8°03' Can - Pluto
15°37' Vir - MC
15°44 Sag - Asc

Sorting it by 90° so it can be seen better in a list:

8°03' Can - Pluto
0°18' Tau - Saturn
4°21' Tau - Uranus
16°26' Tau - Jupiter
18°48' Leo - Venus
2°57' Vir - Neptune
5°48' Vir - Mars
6°49' Vir - Sun
9°04' Vir - Mercury
15°37' Vir - MC
15°44 Sag - Asc
19°52' Vir - Moon

Considering how much work it took to calculate this, I have to admit I'm thoroughly unimpressed with it, casting much doubt in my mind on the importance of multi-party composites (which have been barely explored at all). At most, in this chart we get a close Venus-Jupiter square and Sun-Mars conjunction.

[mikestar13]

I have my doubts about two-party composite charts. However, TMSA will be able to do them easily. If there is sufficient interest, this can be part of version 0.6 when I deal with synastry. When the time comes I have questions about rigorous definitions, especially about three or more party composites.

[Jim Eshelman]

I have doubts about these multi-party composites as well. I wanted to show the one for the Beatles because, if there was ever a clear "these four were an entity on its own that had a life of its own, independent of and greater than its parts," it was the Beatles.

I'm impressed as can be with the complex, interwoven synastry.

I'm not impressed with the composite.

[Jim Eshelman]

Reviewing this thread, here is something that I think is much more useful than some of the things above: All four charts overlaying on a 90° wheel.

0°58' Tau - Ringo Uranus
1°38' Tau - John Uranus
6°45' Tau - George Uranus
8°02' Tau - Paul Uranus
9°18' Leo - John Venus
11°16' Tau - Paul Saturn
11°58' Tau - George Saturn
16°28' Ari - Ringo Jupiter
18°40' Ari - Ringo Saturn
24°26' Tau - Paul Mercury
29°07' - Ringo Neptune
29°48' Tau - Paul MC

1°07' Vir - Ringo Pis
1°22' Vir - Paul Asc
2°07' Vir - John Neptune
2°40' Gem - Paul Sun
3°11' Vir - Paul Neptune
4°21' Sag - Ringo MC
5°22' Pis - George Venus
5°30' Gem - Ringo Venus
7°25' Vir - George Neptune
7°54' Gem - Paul Jupiter
8°45' Vir - John Mars
11°31' Aqu - George Sun
13°13' Sag - John MC
20°46' Gem - Ringo Sun
21°36' Gem - George Jupiter
22°21' Vir - John Sun
25°59' Pis - John Asc
27°26' Sag - George Mars

4°31' Lib - George Asc
6°13' Lib - George Moon
8°03' Can - Ringo Pluto
8°20' Can - Ringo Mars
8°45' Can - Paul Mars
9°38' Cap - John Moon
10°08' Can - Ringo Moon
10°16' Can - John Pluto
10°20' Can - Paul Pluto
11°18' Can - Ringo Mercury
11°32' Can - George Pluto
14°39' lib - John Mercury
15°08' Can - George MC
15°56' Cap - George Mercury
19°18' Ari - John Saturn
19°47' Ari - John Jupiter
23°30' Can - Paul Moon
25°03' Ari - Paul Venus