Robb Elementary School shooting

[Jim Eshelman]

May 24, 2022, about 11:43 AM CDT, Uvalde, Texas , 29N11'58", 99W47'18''
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robb_Elem ... l_shooting

Fourteen students and one teacher are dead following a shooting at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas by an 18-year-old student who also is dead (thus, 16 deaths total). Reportedly, the suspect shot his grandmother first (her condition is unclear). Others were injured including police officers at the scene. UPDATE: Deaths now at 21 including the grandmother and the perp.

This number doesn't put it in the top five mass shootings in the U.S. but does make it the deadliest mass shooting at an elementary school since Sandy Hook. UPDATE 6/22/22: In the aftermath, this had enormous mass mind impact and directly led to the first Federal gun control legislation in three decades (still waiting to get through Congress, but strongly placed).

I'm still looking for a time. The school went on lockdown at 11:43 AM CDT "in response to gunshots in the neighborhood.' I suspect this was the grandmother being shot, so 11:43 is a reasonable time for the event. Moon was exactly in the middle of the 4° Mars-Neptune conjunction (2° from each) with nothing tightly angular.

Year: Capsolar (Dormant.) Moon-Mars.

Year: Cansolar {+1 or +2}
Neptune on Z 1°13' [sq. non-fore Mercury 2°03' M]
Jupiter widely foreground
Moon-Sun 0°18'
Moon-Pluto co. 0°51'

Bridge {+2}
t Neptune sq. Capsolar Moon 3/13-11/3
t Neptune sq. Cansolar Asc 2/25-7/17
t Mars sq. CapQ Moon 5/20-26
Event window: May 20-26

Quarter: Arisolar {+2}
Sun on Dsc 0°25'
Pluto moderately foreground
-- Sun-Pluto sq. 2°24' M

NOTE: Eris on Dsc 0°09', partile co. Sun

Month/Week: Caplunar {+2}
(As usual, if it involves kids it will have a strong lunar presence.)
Moon on EP 0°42'
Moon-Pluto xo. 0°46' M

NOTE: Eris on IC 1°54', sq. Moon (partile)

Day: Capsolar Quotidian & Transits {+2}
t Mars sq. p Moon 0°43'
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t Neptune sq. s Moon 0°14'

Day: Cansolar Quotidian & Transits {+2 at least}
(To make this easier to review, CanQ Asc 29°43' Pisces)
p Asc co t Venus 0°39', sq. s Sun 0°17', sq s Pluto 0°12', sq
-- s Sun-Pluto co. 0°32'
-- t Venus sq. s Sun 0°22', p Sun 0°27°
-- t Venus sq. s Pluto 0°10'
--------------------------------------
t Neptune sq. s Asc 0°48'

[mikestar13]

I note that many reports described the Uvalde police as "standing around with their d***s in their hands" during the shooting, the killing not ending until the Border Patrol breached the door and shot the perpetrator. I suspect the strong Neptune attests to the unusually high level of confusion in this incident, even in the context of mass shootings intrinsically being confusing and terrifying.

The general rule is to not breach in hostage situations if the perp is negotiating and hasn't shot anyone, but if he shoots, you go in--immediately. I suspect this is yet another charge laid to inadequate mental health care in the USA, and quite possibly also another instance of suicide by cop.

[ODdOnLifeItself]

It's documented that police were in the building with guns and shields a full 58 minutes, before going into the classroom.

To me the strong Neptune suggests things are completely other than how they appear (are portrayed), "if the government wants gun control, one way or another, they're going to get it, by (Sandy) hook or by crook."

Before everyone jumps on conspiracy theory as a way to wipe away inconvenient facts, take the following into consideration, please. For Sandy Hook, they published a picture of the children being led away from the school by a teacher, with all kids with their arms on the shoulders of the next child in front of them. All the kids are in a specific order, at a specific location in the parking lot. I can show ANOTHER picture of the same kids at approximately the same spot, with the children in a completely different order.

http://www.james-alexander.de/SandyHook.png

I'm open for ANY explanation as to just how that could have happened. If it were a different place in the parking lot, so one could SAY that in between the positions shift, but it's only about a meter or two difference in location and they're moving steadily, again with hands on each others' shoulders. And, though the kids are in about the same location, moving in a line, the two pictures have different camera angles. How is it that within a couple of meters of travel, that the child that was in front in one picture is suddenly the last child in the line in the other? It's quite obvious that the provided picture from media was one chosen out of a series.

If they lie about the small stuff, they'll surely have no problem lying about the big stuff.

[mikestar13]

I note that the aftermath of this incident is a rush to pass new gun control legislation, which will add a heavier burden to law abiding gun owners while doing nothing to keep guns out of the hands of criminals and crazies. In the former case, existing laws would do the job fairly well if they were enforced: all US jurisdictions impose severe penalties on felons in possession of firearms. In the later case, we need first and foremost better mental health care so their are fewer crazies out and about, then sensible red flag laws which require actual articulated threats and not just vague apprehension or malice (he voted for Trump--he's crazy, take his guns away, for example). Are there any indications that such sensible policies will ever be adopted?

[Jim Eshelman]

I'm still looking for a time. The school went on lockdown at 11:43 AM CDT "in response to gunshots in the neighborhood.' I suspect this was the grandmother being shot, so 11:43 is a reasonable time for the event. Moon was exactly in the middle of the 4° Mars-Neptune conjunction (2° from each) with nothing tightly angular.

The timeline has gotten updated frequently. Though, for our purposes, the exact time doesn't matter much, there is always a question of what the key moment was that marked "the event" or "the start of the event." While heading to the airport for Chicago a month ago, I wrote myself this note:

A note for when I get back. He entered school property at 11:40. Other events had happened before. By 11:28 he'd crashed his vehicle and was sitting by the side of the road. I think 11:40
is as good a time for this as any.

A new timeline released today doesn't seem to contradict that.

[Veronica]

It's documented that police were in the building with guns and shields a full 58 minutes, before going into the classroom.

To me the strong Neptune suggests things are completely other than how they appear (are portrayed), "if the government wants gun control, one way or another, they're going to get it, by (Sandy) hook or by crook."

Before everyone jumps on conspiracy theory as a way to wipe away inconvenient facts, take the following into consideration, please. For Sandy Hook, they published a picture of the children being led away from the school by a teacher, with all kids with their arms on the shoulders of the next child in front of them. All the kids are in a specific order, at a specific location in the parking lot. I can show ANOTHER picture of the same kids at approximately the same spot, with the children in a completely different order.

http://www.james-alexander.de/SandyHook.png

I'm open for ANY explanation as to just how that could have happened. If it were a different place in the parking lot, so one could SAY that in between the positions shift, but it's only about a meter or two difference in location and they're moving steadily, again with hands on each others' shoulders. And, though the kids are in about the same location, moving in a line, the two pictures have different camera angles. How is it that within a couple of meters of travel, that the child that was in front in one picture is suddenly the last child in the line in the other? It's quite obvious that the provided picture from media was one chosen out of a series.

If they lie about the small stuff, they'll surely have no problem lying about the big stuff.

In my career working with children and in schools....I personally can give you several reasons why the children were in a different order in the photos.....have you ever hurried at bunch of youngster out together and then had to resort them out because A was squeezing Bs shoulders and B kept stepping on Cs shoes and lil Z was wayyyyyyyy behind.....