My friend's next 2023 SSR

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 12:40 pm

Jim, before you or I get into certain details about my friend’s next 2023 SSR, when you have time would you offer a short 2-3 sentences (only words—no planetary symbolism) summery of what you see? Thanks

Birth Data: Jan 8 1948; 10:05 AM; Birmingham, Alabama. AA rated with BC in hand.

Current Residence: Gulf Shores, Alabama

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:40 pm

Unusually positive. A year of feeling good - unusually happy - prospering. While there may be a bit of deception (ill-placed trust), the overall impression is so positive I think this is unlikely. (It's more likely something enchanting.) - Don't go anywhere else for the birthday - stay in or near Gulf Shores - but consider a very relaxing vacation (with a bit of the exotic in it) not long after.

From TMSA, the main features:

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Pl Longitude   Lat   Speed    RA    Decl    Azi     Alt     PVL    Ang G
                           Transiting Planets                           
Ju 07Pi10'08" 01S15 + 8'26"   2°33' 00S16 154°32' +56°50' 285°42'  97% F
Ne 27Aq57'15" 01S11 + 1'12" 354°03' 03S52 170°57' +55°31' 276°10'  90% F
------------------------------------------------------------------------
                            Radical Planets                             
Ju 22Sc45'13" 00N32 + 0°13' 256°48' 22S20 251°24' -12°47' 166°32' 100% F
Mo 24Sc05'18" 02S14 +12°10' 258°00' 25S13 248°16' -13°09' 165°53'  97% F
Ur 29Ta11'30" 00N09 - 0°02'  83°44' 23N28  67°17' + 7°44' 351°38'  82% F
Ma 13Le35'57" 03N36 - 0'05" 161°39' 11N39  10°35' -47°30'  80°27'  77% F
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    Class 1 Aspects      Other Partile Aspects                          
tMo op tVe 02°13' 90%   tMa sq rMa 00°26'100%                           
----------------------  tJu sq rSu 00°10'100% M                         
tNe sq rUr 01°14' 97%   tSa op rSa 00°37' 99%                           
----------------------  tUr sq rPl 00°23'100%                           
rMo co rJu 00°40' 99% M                                                 
rMa sq rUr 01°11' 97% M

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 3:08 pm

I told him the same but I wanted him to have a second opinion from my teacher on SSR’s, and your way with words is much better than mine. I called my friend and read him your words.

Now I ask you to do the same for another friend of mine with his next SSR.

Birth Data: Oct 3 1955; 5:24 AM EST; Flint, Michigan AA rated BC in hand.

Current Residence: Oakboro, North Carolina

Thanks Jim!

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 3:22 pm

(This one is harder, more complicated.)

A difficult year. Expect hardship (financial or other), or simply the need to struggle harder, take on more, feel less rewarded. An especially strong tension between what is established, familiar, previously thought secure vs. pressures to change, move, break it up, shake off restriction, escape. - But it's mixed, at least to the extent optimism is still possible; so, most likely, there is a sense of going TO something new rather than just losing something. Careful management of resources is required. (For unclear reasons, legal conflicts keep going through my mind.)

Summary from TMSA:

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Pl Longitude   Lat   Speed    RA    Decl    Azi     Alt     PVL    Ang G
                           Transiting Planets                           
Ur 23Ar14'00" 00S22 - 1'48"  45°56' 16N55 290°59' - 0°09' 179°50' 100% F
Sa 23Cp51'07" 01S19 - 1'55" 321°46' 16S24  19°34' -70°14'  83°08'  99% F
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                            Radical Planets                             
Sa 24Li38'16" 02N01 + 0°06' 227°49' 15S43 108°57' - 0°34'   0°35' 100% F
Ju 29Cn28'23" 00N41 + 0°11' 147°04' 13N59 183°58' +68°43' 268°27'  99% F
Pl 03Le40'28" 10N17 + 0°02' 154°42' 21N32 156°52' +75°17' 275°53'  91% F
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    Class 1 Aspects      Other Partile Aspects                          
tSa sq tUr 00°37' 99%   tMe sq tMa 00°12'100% M                         
----------------------  tMe op tNe 00°44' 99% M                         
tMo sq rVe 00°47' 99%   tMa sq tNe 00°32' 99% M                         
tSa sq rSa 00°47' 99%    ----------------------                         
tUr sq rJu 01°23' 96% M tMe co rMa 00°11'100%                           
tUr op rSa 00°46' 99% M tMa sq rMa 00°29'100% M                         
----------------------  tNe op rMa 00°56' 98%                           
rJu sq rSa 02°08' 91% M  ----------------------                         
                        rUr sq rNe 00°59' 98% M

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 4:27 pm

Jim wrote:

(This one is harder, more complicated.)

Indeed!!!
Jim wrote:

(For unclear reasons, legal conflicts keep going through my mind.)

The “reasons” are clear to me: My friend is a tenant in a shopping center owned by two partners. One partner has just filed a law suit against the other partner jeopardizing the financial structures in place for my friend. Excellent read Jim!!!!

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Tue Jul 12, 2022 4:56 pm

Jim Eshelman wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 3:22 pm A difficult year. Expect hardship (financial or other), or simply the need to struggle harder, take on more, feel less rewarded. An especially strong tension between what is established, familiar, previously thought secure vs. pressures to change, move, break it up, shake off restriction, escape. - But it's mixed, at least to the extent optimism is still possible; so, most likely, there is a sense of going TO something new rather than just losing something. Careful management of resources is required. (For unclear reasons, legal conflicts keep going through my mind.)

SteveS wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 4:27 pm The “reasons” are clear to me: My friend is a tenant in a shopping center owned by two partners. One partner has just filed a law suit against the other partner jeopardizing the financial structures in place for my friend. Excellent read Jim!!!!

I guess it was pretty on target. All of it, though (except the last sentence), was the simplest application of the most basic principles. Almost nothing at all except:

Two very angular Saturns as the strongest single planet. Read the basic tone from this.
Contrast that to the very angular Uranus, with Saturn-Uranus square as the defining aspect in that mostly-Saturn context. (Half of what I wrote is from the Saturn-Uranus aspect.)
Moon conjunct Venus gives a direction to the fourth closely angular planet, natal (not transiting!) Jupiter. It let me put a small positive spin on it (both benefics are natal, so basically "he somehow feels OK, maybe better than OK, considering the lousy conditions).

Adding subtleties:

His natal Jupiter-Saturn is emphasized (both aspected by Uranus), so he's going to respond to the changes or breakup in a "natal Jupiter-Saturn aspect" way. ("Careful management of resources is required.")
Saturn-Saturn square emphasizes the two Saturns but especially shows the turning point or redirection of his practical life.
I picked a few words to describe the above which also matched natal Pluto foreground.

With this basic feel in mind, I looked at the partile non-foreground aspects. It felt like legal conflict without exactly having any planets that outright say "legal matters." Mercury-Mars-Neptune has arguments and perhaps turbulent emotions, maybe even a sense of betrayal - in any case, it feels like it feels bad, inwardly turbulent, a little lost, a lot contentious; and this all aspects his natal Mars. These aren't strong enough to say all those individual things with any confidence, but they created enough of a feel to say, "something that feels kinda like legal conflict."

(I thought some might appreciate these crisp notes on how I approached the chart - all read straight from TMSA excerpts above without ever seeing the chart on a wheel.)

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:09 am

Jim wrote:

With this basic feel in mind, I looked at the partile non-foreground aspects. It felt like legal conflict without exactly having any planets that outright say "legal matters." Mercury-Mars-Neptune has arguments and perhaps turbulent emotions, maybe even a sense of betrayal - in any case, it feels like it feels bad, inwardly turbulent, a little lost, a lot contentious; and this all aspects his natal Mars. These aren't strong enough to say all those individual things with any confidence, but they created enough of a feel to say, "something that feels kinda like legal conflict."

Excellent observation Jim---something I missed which I think is a very important subtlety. Also note transiting Neptune in this SSR just so happens to be almost on his Natal DSC making it a most important outer planet transit opposing his Natal Mars. Both his SSR and Natal transiting angularities makes this probably the most important business happenings in his entire life. Also note he picks up an exact SSR progressed Moon conjunction to his SSR Pluto in about 7 months from his birthday. I think this will probably time the month for “An extremely emotional life or an extreme expression of feeling” in the context of the symbolism in his SSR as far as what major business “changes” it will bring to his life, could be symboizing the time for the final outcome culmination with his business dealings or possibly the culmination of the legal law suit.

I find his Natal Jupiter-Pluto conjunction on his SSR MC most interesting with Natal Jupiter 1,21 conjunct his SSR MC. From a mundane position can you show me with TMSA how close his Natal Jup-Pluto conjunction is to his SSR MC? Is his SSR Uranus in a mundo paran to either his Natal Jupiter or Pluto on SSR MC? I have known this business man for over 40 years and I have seen him get out of very difficult business difficulties in the past—always landing on his feet with new benefic changes, he has been incredibly lucky (Jup-Pl) in his life with very difficult business situations. I look upon his Natal Jup-Pl on his SSR MC as a possible benefic way out of this most difficult business situation. If SSR Uranus is mundo 1 degree orb or less to his Natal Jupiter for a Jupiter-Uranus Paran---this could symbolize his “Thank You Lord” aspect. Thanks Jim for your input.

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:31 am

SteveS wrote: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:09 am I find his Natal Jupiter-Pluto conjunction on his SSR MC most interesting with Natal Jupiter 1,21 conjunct his SSR MC. From a mundane position can you show me with TMSA how close his Natal Jup-Pluto conjunction is to his SSR MC?

Yes, there are a couple of easy ways to see this, such as simply looking at the "wheel" itself; but, using what I posted before, see:

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Pl Longitude   Lat   Speed    RA    Decl    Azi     Alt     PVL    Ang G
                            Radical Planets                             
Ju 29Cn28'23" 00N41 + 0°11' 147°04' 13N59 183°58' +68°43' 268°27'  99% F
Pl 03Le40'28" 10N17 + 0°02' 154°42' 21N32 156°52' +75°17' 275°53'  91% F

The next-to-last number in each row is the Prime Vertical Longitude (PVL), or mundoscope position. Natal Pluto is 275°53' (5°53' of the 10th house, or 5°53' east of MC). Natal Jupiter is 268°27' (28°27' on the 9th house, or 1°33' west of MC). - This would be even easier on the TMSA wheel (see the next post below where I recalculated his chart for you). Their ecliptical conjunction is 4°12', their mundane conjunction 7°26', neither of which close enough to draw my attention.

Is his SSR Uranus in a mundo paran to either his Natal Jupiter or Pluto on SSR MC? ... If SSR Uranus is mundo 1 degree orb or less to his Natal Jupiter for a Jupiter-Uranus Paran---this could symbolize his “Thank You Lord” aspect.

As you can see in the table posted above, transiting Uranus' PVL is 179°50': It is 0°10' below Descendant. (You could see this even easier on the TMSA wheel.) As the aspect table at the bottom shows (displayed in what I posted above), transiting Uranus does aspect his natal Jupiter-Saturn square, with Uranus square his Jupiter 1°23' mundo. It doesn't closely aspect his Pluto. This might make it clearer (mundoscope positions listed in terms of their houses for easier reference):

28°27' 9H - r Jupiter
29°50' 6H - t Uranus
0°35' 1H - r Saturn
5°53' 10H - r Pluto

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:10 am

Now that I'm at a computer, here is the actual TMSA wheel of the SSR. Hold your mouse over the green text area and scroll to see the whole thing. You can see the zodiacal position AND prime vertical longitude of everything right on the chart. (It's one of the most distinctive features of the program.)

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 +-------------28Le58-----------01Le15-----------29Ge37--------------+
 |tMe 29Le16 00°24|                |rJu 29Cn28 28°27|                |
 |rMa 29Le27 00°41|                |                |                |
 |                |rPl 03Le40 05°53|                |                |
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 |tVe 10Vi17 12°58|                |                |                |
 |                |                |                |                |
 |                |                |                |   tVx 10Ge36   |
 |rSu 15Vi19 18°44|                |                |                |
 |tSu 15Vi19 18°44|                |                |                |
 |                |                |rUr 07Cn38 07°30|                |
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 |rVe 23Vi55 28°24|                |                |tMa 25Ta53 00°12|
 25Vi11-----------+----------------+----------------+-----------25Ta21
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 |                |      Transiting (t) Chart       |                |
 |                |         Steve'S Friend          |                |
 |rNe 03Li10 08°29|          Solar Return           |                |
 |rMe 04Li18 11°04|     3 Oct 2022 14:26:24 UT      |                |
 |                |         Oakboro, NC USA         |                |
 |                |      35N13'33" 080W19'44"       |                |
 |                |           UT 14:26:24           |                |
 |                |         RAMC 148°32'34"         |                |
 |                |          OE 23°26'18"           |                |
 |                |         SVP 04Pi56'43"          |                |
 |                |         Sidereal Zodiac         |                |
 |                |         Campanus Houses         |                |
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 23Li16-----------+                                 +-----------23Ar16
 |rSa 24Li38 00°35|        Radical (r) Chart        |tUr 23Ar14 29°50|
 |                |         Steve'S Friend          |                |
 |                |              Natal              |                |
 |                |     3 Oct 1955 05:24:00 EST     |                |
 |                |          Flint, MI USA          |                |
 |                |      43N00'58" 083W41'24"       |                |
 |   tEp 05Sc38   |           UT 10:24:00           |                |
 |                |         RAMC 83°39'43"          |                |
 |                |          OE 23°26'41"           |rMo 06Ar47 13°54|
 |                |         SVP 05Pi52'24"          |                |
 |                |         Sidereal Zodiac         |                |
 |                |         Campanus Houses         |                |
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 25Sc21-----------+----------------+----------------+-----------25Pi11
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 |                |tPl 01Cp04 02°21|                |                |
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 |                |                |                |tJu 07Pi44 10°05|
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 |                |tSa 23Cp51 23°08|                |                |
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 |tMo 23Sg08 26°32|                |                |                |
 |                |                |tNe 28Aq31 29°40|                |
 +-------------29Sg37-----------01Aq15-----------28Aq58--------------+

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Wed Jul 13, 2022 3:08 pm

Thanks Jim.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Thu Jul 28, 2022 3:20 am

My business friend in North Carolina has written the most important business letter in his life to his landlord with a mundo Jupiter 02,11 cnj his July 20 SLR IC, with his following DSLR featuring a mundo Jupiter partile cnj his Aug 4th DSLR DSC, both loaded with all kinds of partile/tight aspects in the lunar returns and transits to Natal.

I told my good friend if he did not receive some fortunate constructed communication from his landlord by Aug 16 ending these two lunars, he probably would not achieve his main business objectives from his landlord, but with high % he would achieve his main business objectives. Rare to see both Jupiter featured as main themes in both the SLR & DSLR.

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Thu Jul 28, 2022 6:35 am

SteveS wrote: Thu Jul 28, 2022 3:20 am Rare to see both Jupiter featured as main themes in both the SLR & DSLR.

Jupiter (or any planet, in fact) within 3° either side of one of four angles occurs almost 7% of the time.

Of those times, the odds are the same for it appearing that close in the demi, so the odds of it appearing on both within Class 1 orbs is just under half of 1%.

So, yes, I suppose that counts as rare

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Thu Jul 28, 2022 7:55 am

I love your mathematical mind Jim.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Fri Jul 29, 2022 3:30 am

My friend emailed his most important business letter to his landlord yesterday and got a quick response saying he would repond to him when a current legal matter is resolved with responding to a legal petition filed by his partner. A 30 day extension has been granted to complete the petition's response. My friend is also a respondent in this legal petition and has lawyered-up, my friend's lawyer telling him he can't understand why the landlord's partner filed a petition naming my friend as a respondent

.

In the past year the majority stock owner landlord has ignored all of my friend's business communictions efforts frustrating my friend to hell. With quick response by the landlord to my friend's emailed letter, my friend is very encourged which is the only Jupiter manifestation I have seen so far with his current Jupiter SLR. Funny to me how lawyers entice quicker business responces

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 4:01 am

Birth Data: Jan 8 1948; 10:05 AM; Birmingham, Alabama. AA rated with BC in hand.
Current Residence: Gulf Shores, Alabama

Jim, when you have time---a short read please for his next SLR in Gulf Shores. Thanks

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 7:31 am

SteveS wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 4:01 am Jim, when you have time---a short read please for his next SLR in Gulf Shores.

Steve, while I don't want to be alarmist, this is an unusually severe SLR. As you know, flat-out "ba" returns can run the range of something simple and not necessarily physical (conflict, being aggravated with how things aren't going your way) to medium things like open conflict or even serious things like a health crisis or serious accident.

On first glance, this is an especially bad SLR, one of the worst. Then I notice the remarkable fact that natal Venus is the MOST angular planet. That makes me stop and regroup: Will this soften the effect? Or does it mean the hurt strikes him at a deeply personal level (something he loves)?

Back to basics: Of the eight foreground planets, the most angular are:
r Venus 0°55' before Asc
t Saturn 2°32' before Asc
r Saturn 2°34' before Dsc
r Pluto 2°50' before Dsc

One already sees the mundane aspects forming just by typing this out. These planets likely tell the main story of the SLR month. Three of them have aspects within mere minutes of precision. (Also foreground are natal Sun. Mercury, Mars, and Uranus.)

One is tempted to fixate on the 0°09' Mars-Saturn square (Saturn in Capricorn, Mars in Aries), especially seeing that it is exactly (0°04' and 0°02', respectively) aspecting closely angular natal Saturn. My first impression, then, is that this is an unusually severe chart - very difficult conditions, perhaps an attack but more likely an engaged struggle, perhaps a health crisis (cardio-vascular), a great deal of hardship (of the scale that would impact two to four weeks of one's life), and that it especially attacks his security, things he considers stable, solid, "given," on which he relies.

This isn't probably minor - it's impactful - something that (at least in a modest scale) changes his life - because transiting Sun is only 0°06' from his Pluto (foreground). - All of these orbs are VERY tiny, very close.

So transiting Mars-Saturn, Mars to natal Saturn, Saturn to natal Saturn, Saturn to natal Pluto (0°18'), Sun to natal Pluto. What's left?

What's left is the Venus. Sometimes a single benefic overwhelmingly close to an angle will ease the weight of a difficult chart. I'm not sure that's what we're seeing here, though if he could spend the SLR day somewhere that Venus is less than 0°05' from an angle (rather than the "wide" 0°55' in Gulf Shores), it couldn't hurt and might help.

The main thing, though, is that the Venus is probably showing how this affects him, where it touches him. The harsh aspects are especially to his Saturn, so the outright attack is on his security; but natal Venus is most angular (and also afflicted) so - more than security - it means that what gets hurt (or what he's at risk of losing) is intimately important to him, very personal, something he loves.

Saturn (in the exaltation degree of Mars, precisely square Mars) conjoins his Venus 2°37' (mundo). Uranus squares is Venus 0°38'. He has a natal Venus-Saturn-Pluto condition that the SLR brings together (much closer than in his natal chart). Here are natal planet mundoscope positions in the SLR (all planets aspected by transiting Saturn):

0°55' 1H - Venus - 24°23' Cap
2°34' 7H - Saturn - 27°34' Can
2°50' 7H - Pluto - 20°21' Can

So... hoping that this is one of those times a horrendous Mars-Saturn square to natal Saturn turns out to be stepping on a nail or scraping his knee badly on the beach - I think this is going to be a very difficult, memorable two to four weeks with conflict around him, more work and labor demanded of him than usual, feeling like an outright attack on his security and something deeply personal (something he loves). It's an emotional loss. It feels life-altering at the time. If it's a health crisis, it's cardiovascular. Presuming he is married, I also wonder about his wife's health.

Either that, or a really bad hangnail.

Or, y'know, I'm just wrong.

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Tue Aug 02, 2022 8:04 am

The good news is that his August 21 Demi-Lunar has transiting Jupiter 1°53' past Ascendant, the only other foreground planets being two Neptunes (t Neptune 1°59' before Dsc). Looks like "happy and drunk."

Jupiter + Neptune, of course, can mean over-optimism, being fooled and cheated; but this is transiting Jupiter, which says the outcome is to his benefit. The midpoint of t Jupiter and r Neptune is 0°03' from the horizon in mundo.

His September 4 SLR is also mostly positive with Jupiter 5° past MC. The Jupiter is important because its mostly a Mercury SLR - natal Mercury 2° from Dsc, transiting Mercury widely foreground - and the transiting Mercury and Jupiter are in partile square, both of them closely aspecting natal Sun
(Jupiter to his Sun is 0°48'). All sorts of things in this chart suggest he's signing paperwork, making written commitments, that are much to his advantage. Jupiter to Sun is especially an aspect of healing and recovery.

So I think he's coming out of this in good shape even in the short run.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Wed Aug 03, 2022 4:21 am

Thanks Jim, I am with you and am very concerened with this SLR, I will keep you informed.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Fri Aug 05, 2022 5:55 am

My North Carolina friend has an “outstanding incident” SSR for his next solar year. What I like to do when isolating the rare “outstanding incident” SSRs is to see if any of their main Natal configurations (aspects) fall on their SSR angles. If so, by Jim’s proven SSR guidelines—this will show how the native will ‘react’ to their “outstanding incident” SSR.

My friend’s Natal Jupiter (29,28 Can) and Natal Pluto (03,40 Leo) falls on his 2022 SSR MC (01,04 Leo) calculating a Direct Midpoint of his Natal conjunction of Jup/Pl = SSR MC In the immediate foreground of his SSR. This is a potent configuration and he & I already know it’s related diretly to his career. He has a tough symbolic SSR, He will either be in the streets without a career or he will achieve new conditions for his lease which will afford him much more freedom which is his main objective.

Donald Bradley writes from his book “Solar and Lunar Returns”, a must for any Sidereal Astrologer IMO.

Jupiter-Pluto: No flights of the imagination are allowed by this planetary combination, which is the harbinger of the end of an old and beginning of a new cycle in the native’s relationship to his career, his financial status, and the outside world. It is the marker of crises which make or break the native’s reputation, by forcing grave issues out into the light of day, for all to see and judge.

Bradley’s above words for my friend’s next SSR are so accurate—it’s uncanny. My friend’s business reputation is outstanding. I think he will forge a new relationship for his career which will improve his business status—but it’s going to be tough going during his new solar year.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Wed Dec 14, 2022 7:53 am

Jim when you said (This one is harder, more complicated.) you stated an understatement. I could write an essay of what is happening to him. This is the toughest SSR (Curtis) I have had to counsel in my entire life trying my best to get the final outcome to turn out in his favor. He called me yesterday and told me when I told him for sure to get a lawyer it was rock solid good friendly advice. I will post-up later near the end of his SSR, for it just keeps on getting "more complicated".

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Sun Dec 25, 2022 10:56 pm

I wrote about a friend’s “outstanding incident” 2022 SSR:

Birth Data: Oct 3 1955; 5:24 AM EST; Flint, Michigan AA rated BC in hand. Current Residence: Oakboro, North Carolina.

His next “outstanding incident” SLR Feb 24 2023 which has strong echoes to his 2022 SSR could play a pivotal timing role for his career. This SLR features a SLR Saturn partile 180 his Natal Saturn with mundo SLR Saturn 00,18 cnj his SLR ASC, ouch.

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Mon Dec 26, 2022 9:56 am

SteveS wrote: Sun Dec 25, 2022 10:56 pm His next “outstanding incident” SLR Feb 24 2023 which has strong echoes to his 2022 SSR could play a pivotal timing role for his career. This SLR features a SLR Saturn partile 180 his Natal Saturn with mundo SLR Saturn 00,18 cnj his SLR ASC, ouch.

Ouch indeed!

This falls on transiting Sun pumps it even more. (You have to see the chart mundanely to see that.) I get a slightly different orb, possible because of slightly different Oakboro coordinates or slightly different times. (TMSA has a newer ephemeris that rarely makes a meaningful difference in SLRs, but calculates this chart for 11:46:39 UT.)

25°20' 12H - t Mercury
27°20' 6H - r Jupiter
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0°16' 1H - t Saturn
3°02' 1H - t Sun

You are probably most noticing transiting Saturn opposite natal Pluto (which is widely foreground, 8°21' above Dsc). This transit is only 0°03'. I'd rather see Saturn to Pluto than Pluto to Saturn, but the EXACT angularity has to be strenuous. Saturn-to-Pluto usually is hardening, maybe causing separation or cutting off from something (especially from others). It usually means that tremendous effort is required (but one is up to it). It's a lot of work. It also shows him resisting rules or expectations that other people try to put on him, pulling back from actually communicating with people with whom he is having disagreements. This could be an encounter with the law, but at least has that feel.

It's not all bad. It's a back-and-forth struggle. Saturn is opposite natal Jupiter mundanely, but this also means natal Jupiter is the second most angular planet of the chart.

And here's a subtlety: While Saturn the most angular and is opposite his Jupiter 2°55', transiting Mercury is less angular but opposite his Jupiter 2°01' in mundo. This is complicated: The key is that Mercury does not aspect Saturn. If it did, then this would be a "bad Mercury," and it would be worse. As it is, the Saturn and Mercury transits to his Jupiter are independent. (It squares his non-foreground natal Saturn, which your friend will likely feel, but natal Saturn isn't "conditioning" how transiting Mercury operates.)

All this is a long way of saying that, independent of transiting Saturn opposite his Jupiter, he gets a free-and-clear transit of Mercury to his Jupiter also. This is positive. It's good for business. People want to hear from him in a way that enhances his sense of well-being. It may simply be that he gets a break, or it MAY be that the sense of burden and weight is because he has to work harder to satisfy someone. Even if we take the two transits as t Me/Sa = r Ju, it supports this theory (see Ebertin's paragraph: it's a half-degree contact).

I guess my bottom line is that this is really demanding, the world is leaning on him and wanting from him, authorities and people of real importance to him are putting on the pressure. At the same time, he's putting way more pressure on himself. If this were Pluto transiting his Saturn, it could break his secure base, shatter what he wants to hold onto; but with Saturn to his Pluto it just means that there are enormous demands and he wants to balk against them or evade them. Saturn exactly rising is a bigger deal than Saturn to his Pluto or Jupiter. IMO this chart is exactly as consistent with having too much work to do, a giant order etc., with close scrutiny and demands for perfection but amounting to a desired business opportunity as it is with bruising hardship. It will be hard, but it may not be bad.

Looking for subtleties ("fill in the cracks" or background context), we find a strange mix of aspects. I've already mentioned Mercury square his Saturn, which can be frustrating and show him withdrawing from communication or making mistakes; but the return also has transiting Jupiter opposite natal Sun 0°30' middleground, which suggests he has some protection. (If this is a bad event, he won't lose his shirt, but might lose a button or two.) Neptune opposite his Mars 0°01' and Pluto square his Mercury 0°00' can't be ignored: He seems under a lot of stress, maybe feels he is not up to the task.

I think the keys to best navigation are to try to stay connected to people and actually communicate where his every instinct is to pull back and tell someone to go self-copulate.

Veronica · Post by **Veronica** » Tue Dec 27, 2022 5:05 am

Jim wrote
"I think the keys to best navigation are to try to stay connected to people and actually communicate where his every instinct is to pull back and tell someone to go self-copulate."
I think this is the best sentence you ever wrote.
I would change the pronoun his to our, but that's me.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Tue Dec 27, 2022 5:26 am

Jim, I am very close to his circumstances and these circumstances have become a huge burden to him since his 2022 SSR began. It’s a bankrupt situation for the small shopping center which his Theater is located. Long story-short: He will either be on the streets with no income or he will receive a huge severance package by closing his Theater, which will allow him to pay-off his mortgage to his home. I think what you wrote above sees the fair possibility of a good severance package. Also, his Feb SLR Jup partile 180 his Natal Sun. I see this aspect as a good possibility for putting him on easy street, but with absolutely nothing to do after the property of the shopping center is sold to satisfy the bank note to prevent bankruptcy, forcing the closure of his Theater. He is a sad/depressed person with what he has been dealing with business wise, and with that SLR Saturn partile cnj his SLR ASC partile 180 his Natal Pluto (Eclipto)---it may time and culminate an OI which puts the final nail in the coffin for the closure of his Theater. Time only knows for sure. Will keep things updated.

Veronica · Post by **Veronica** » Tue Dec 27, 2022 6:20 am

There is always something to do.
Improving oneself is an endless undertaking.

maybe he is a sad and depressed person because he is doing something that gives him no real pleasure. Maybe the Jupiter transit to his Sun will open his eyes to see sources of richness in places he hadn't thought possible.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Tue Dec 27, 2022 6:35 am

Jim, a while back you looked at my friend’s (Gulf Shores) Aug 7 OI Mars-Saturn SLR. You said his Natal Venus partile cnj his SLR Asc may save him from any harsh Mars-Saturn incidents. You were right. Here is what happened: He was experiencing terrible pain in both his knees leading-up to this OI Mars-Saturn Aug 7 SLR, but one day after this Aug 7 SLR began he got shots in both knees which stopped 80% of the pain. The best I can tell his Natal Venus being partile cnj his SLR ASC ruled most the time frame of this OI Mars-Saturn SLR, proving your teachings that Natal Planets on SLR angles symbolize how we will react to the symbolism in the SLR.

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Tue Dec 27, 2022 7:22 am

SteveS wrote: Tue Dec 27, 2022 6:35 am Jim, a while back you looked at my friend’s (Gulf Shores) Aug 7 OI Mars-Saturn SLR. You said his Natal Venus partile cnj his SLR Asc may save him from any harsh Mars-Saturn incidents. You were right. Here is what happened: He was experiencing terrible pain in both his knees leading-up to this OI Mars-Saturn Aug 7 SLR, but one day after this Aug 7 SLR began he got shots in both knees which stopped 80% of the pain. The best I can tell his Natal Venus being partile cnj his SLR ASC ruled most the time frame of this OI Mars-Saturn SLR, proving your teachings that Natal Planets on SLR angles symbolize how we will react to the symbolism in the SLR.

Very interesting. Tanks for the details. - If I can see more in this, I'll post it back here.

Is there a link to the thread where I made that statement?

ADDED ON: I've pulled up his SLR. It's complicated, not easy to pull an either-or good-bad assessment. It looks like you were first tuned into this SLR because of the 0°09' square of transiting Mars and Saturn in the foreground. However, while Saturn was closely angular, Mars was not - it was more than 2° from square Ascendant.

The strongest transiting planet was Uranus, with Saturn also close, Sun medium, and a little bit of Mercury and Mars. First impression: Uranus 1°21' from square Ascendant is the main theme and it's some difficulty with the Saturn. In hindsight, it's clear that the supremely close Mars-Saturn square was one of the loudest voices, especially because both Mars and Saturn square his natal Saturn (0°04' and 0°02', respectively). Another supremely close foreground aspect is Sun conjunct his Pluto 0°06' (with Saturn also opposite his Pluto).

In hindsight, seeing all this "pain from the past" seems like it was aging-related impact on his bones. It could have been worse, and a glance at the SLR is more consistent with a lot of pain. But where is the Uranus? It could have been an accident breaking something (Mars, Saturn, and Uranus all angular, two of them closely). In hindsight, I think Mars backed away from the angle lightens the pressure a bit.

Turning to his natal planets, the strongest voice is indeed natal Venus 0°55' from Ascendant. But he also has close natal Saturn-Pluto - the Venus-Saturn-Pluto triple mundane conjunction being on the angle. There was a real sense of personal loss. And yet... that natal Saturn being THE closest (while Uranus is the closest transiting planet) has to have our attention. Transiting Uranus square natal Venus 0°38' is another strong aspect in the chart.

It's not an easy chart. I don't want to sound all smart and confident about it after the fact. There is clearly rough stuff. It's one of those trade-offs where one is left wondering if the tightest foreground aspects or the tightest angularities are going to win. It would be easiest to say that the Mars-Saturn to his Saturn, all within a few minutes, was the prevailing detail, but it's hard to miss that exactly angular Venus (even an afflicted Venus) as the primary theme-setter.

I'd be curious to read the original answer I gave and see how I sounded at the time.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Tue Dec 27, 2022 7:39 am

I think its in this long thread, I will try to locate.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Tue Dec 27, 2022 7:57 am

Found it Jim, you wrote:

What's left is the Venus. Sometimes a single benefic overwhelmingly close to an angle will ease the weight of a difficult chart. I'm not sure that's what we're seeing here, though if he could spend the SLR day somewhere that Venus is less than 0°05' from an angle (rather than the "wide" 0°55' in Gulf Shores), it couldn't hurt and might help.

I don't know the exact corrdinates where he got the pain killing shots. I will try and investigate.

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Tue Dec 27, 2022 7:57 am

The clearest view of the chart (I don't think I was doing things this simply before): When there SO MUCH going on in a chart, to help filter the strongest factors I start DROPPING OUT the wider angularities. Technically, this means I cut out any foreground planet beyond 7° of a major angle or 2° of a minor angle.

This doesn't mean that the wider contacts aren't present; it means that they can't be as important as the closer contacts that are left.

With your friend's chart, the first dramatic thing this accomplishes is that it loses transiting Mars entirely - meaning, it loses the Mars-Saturn square entirely, due to Mars' being too far from the angle!

It still has Saturn to his natal Saturn-Pluto within a few minutes, right across the angle (and to his Venus close but not partile) and suggests some personal loss. It still has Sun 06' from his Pluto, suggesting a very pivotal month; and it leaves the partile Uranus transit to his Venus. And, of course, it has natal Venus MOST angular. Here's the breakdown of the slightly tightened SLR:

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Pl Longitude   Lat   Speed    RA    Decl    Azi     Alt     PVL    Ang G
                           Transiting Planets                           
Ur 23Ar45'16"  0S22 + 0'49"  46°27' 17N 4  18°56' -40°31'  69°12'  99% N 
Sa 27Cp20'46"  1S18 - 4'27" 325°11' 15S16 106°17' - 2°26'   2°32'  98% A 
Su 20Cn26'25"  0S 0 +57'29" 137°57' 16N11 290°44' - 3° 0' 176°47'  97% D 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
                            Radical Planets                             
Ve 24Cp23'23"  1S44 + 1°14' 322°26' 16S38 108°50' - 0°52'   0°55' 100% A 
Sa 27Cn33'36"  1N 9 - 3'35" 145°21' 15N 4 286° 2' + 2°28' 182°34'  98% D 
Pl 20Cn20'53"  7N20 - 1'14" 140°13' 23N13 295°31' + 2°33' 182°50'  98% D 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Class 1 Aspects    
tSu co rPl  0° 6'100%  
tSa co rVe  1°37' 95% M
tSa op rSa  0° 2'100% M
tSa op rPl  0°18'100% M
tUr sq rVe  0°38' 99%  
---------------------- 
rVe op rSa  1°39' 95% M
rVe op rPl  1°55' 93% M                                                 
rSa co rPl  0°16'100% M

This is still complicated, but starting to be more manageable. If you tighten it to the "outstanding" thresholds, I think you start to get to its essence. Here is the outcome:

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Pl Longitude   Lat   Speed    RA    Decl    Azi     Alt     PVL    Ang G
                           Transiting Planets                           
Ur 23Ar45'16"  0S22 + 0'49"  46°27' 17N 4  18°56' -40°31'  69°12'  99% N 
Sa 27Cp20'46"  1S18 - 4'27" 325°11' 15S16 106°17' - 2°26'   2°32'  98% A 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
                            Radical Planets                             
Ve 24Cp23'23"  1S44 + 1°14' 322°26' 16S38 108°50' - 0°52'   0°55' 100% A 
Sa 27Cn33'36"  1N 9 - 3'35" 145°21' 15N 4 286° 2' + 2°28' 182°34'  98% D 
Pl 20Cn20'53"  7N20 - 1'14" 140°13' 23N13 295°31' + 2°33' 182°50'  98% D 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
tSa op rSa  0° 2'100% M                                                 
tSa op rPl  0°18' 98% M                                                 
tUr sq rVe  0°38' 93%                                                   
----------------------                                                  
rSa co rPl  0°16' 99% M

While the Venus seems to have eased his pain a lot, did this weekend also mark some kind of personal loss or difficult social interaction? There is still a lot of weight on that exactly angular Venus with its natal and transiting aspects.

PS - Just saw the repost paragraph, thanks.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Tue Dec 27, 2022 8:05 am

Jim, if he leveled with me, he experienced no malefic effects from this SLR expect for 2-3 days of severe pain as the SLR was setting-up, so much pain he had to use crutches to get to docs office for the pain shots one day after the SLR set-up. He said after the pain shots he was fine for the rest of the time frame of his SLR. This SLR really fooled me when he and I were going over it 2 weeks before the SLR. Time is the only factor which knows.

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Tue Dec 27, 2022 8:16 am

For the way you quick-filter SLRs - measuring partile ecliptical aspects and eye-balling how close they are to the angles - it's worth noting that if you had excluded the Mars angularity (which was quite weak) you wouldn't have found any foreground transit-to-transit aspects.

For "outstanding" effects, I don't think we can rely on Class 3 (meaning: very wide) angularities. I'm inclined to think we should limit to Class 1 (within 3° of major angles, 1-2° of minor angles). Since you were screening visually, you'd miss the mundane aspects (like the close natal Venus-Saturn-Pluto).

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Tue Dec 27, 2022 8:43 am

Jim wrote:

For the way you quick-filter SLRs - measuring partile ecliptical aspects and eye-balling how close they are to the angles - it's worth noting that if you had excluded the Mars angularity (which was quite weak) you wouldn't have found any foreground transit-to-transit aspects.

True! All I noticed with my rapid analysis was mundo SLR Saturn was 2,34 from ASC, and was partile 90 Mars, qualifying as the main filter for your OI return chart, a very potent OI aspect. He did experience a-lot of Mars-Saturn with his acute pain, but was soon relieved with his Natal Venus partile cnj his SLR ASC with the pain killing shots. When I talked with him 2 weeks before this SLR set-up---he was not in that much pain. We both gave high possibility this SLR would manifest in other possible ways, particularly with his business, which is always a trouble spot for him pertaining to labor problems. Anyway, I learned a-lot with this SLR pertaining to your teachings about Natal Planets on Return angles.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Sun Jul 16, 2023 6:16 pm

My good friend’s Gulf side restaurant caught fire today with extensive damage. He said if he and his partners decide to rebuild it will probably be a year before they reopen.
Birth Data: Jan 8 1948; 10:05 AM; Birmingham, Alabama. AA rated with BC in hand. Current Residence: Gulf Shores, Alabama
The main symbolic factor I see for this important life event fire in his life comes from his Solar Arcs:
D MC 14,25 Aqu Natal Mars 13,35 Leo
Of course there are other symbolic factors but this fire will probably be the event which puts him in final retirement for the rest of his life.

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Sun Jul 16, 2023 6:48 pm

I'm sorry to hear this

- I've track of this thread, but thought this was the friend we concluded was going to have a really great year. (Maybe I'm remembering the wrong friend or the wrong year.) I'll review the thread.

In any case, the solar arc is a great hit, quite literal - marking out a two-year period when fire (among other things) is a greater threat.

A quick look: Transiting Uranus square natal Saturn (19' at the moment) shows such things as shaking up his practical foundations (but, on the positive side, might cut him loose from things that have been holding him back). Saturn has been opposing his Mars and Mars is approaching his Mars - neither is close at the moment but they might have recently fallen on return angles.

To be continued.

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Sun Jul 16, 2023 7:12 pm

Checking the solunars... yes, this was the SSR I was remembering with unusually positive indicators including two closely angular Jupiters and a Moon-Venus opposition plus his natal Moon-Jupiter angular. There IS one potentially hurtful thing - his natal Mars-Uranus square foreground - but they are barely foreground. I would not expect it to outpace two closely angular Jupiters, Moon=-Venus, and Moon-Jupiter.

He even has a non-foreground 0°10' Sun-Jupiter mundane square in the SSR. OTOH, also partile and away from the angles, he had Mars square his Mars and Saturn square his Saturn. Again, not all that strong.

Seeing the 14° Cancer SSR Moon and adding 6°, I see he has natal Pluto at 20° Cancer. That's at least part of the pattern, though it could have gone lots of ways.

I would not have gotten this event from the SSR unless somehow it turns out that (say) the insurance money sets him up for life. I suspect not. I just mention that the SSR can always be counted on to describe the essential nature of the year, what one remembers looking back, and therefore I expect his time between now and next January to be marked by two Jupiters, Moon-Venus, and Moon-Jupiter.

BTW, I'm not a big fan of demi-solars but his Demi-SSR almost a week ago deserves a look. It's better than most. Again, I wouldn't rest our case on it, but it has some distinctive fire indications. Mars is foreground. Saturn opposes natal Mars. Venus is MORE foreground than either of them but is conjunct natal Saturn (Venus-Saturn being a distinctive fire aspect).

The SLR is poor for the event but the recent Demi-SLR is good. Not enough Mars for my tastes, but everything that IS there is correct. Natal Saturn is the single strongest thing and the two angular Venuses are tied up in the right aspects. Then Jupiter to Pluto, and more. Again, the signs keep looking like "gain from loss" in ways that I don't yet understand.

His 10-Day solar July 10 had Mars at MC among other things (including Saturn opposite natal Mars more widely foreground). That's the best standard return chart. Oh, his Kinetic Lunar has Saturn exactly on EP-a.

Starting to see them now in the mix of return charts - not the first tier returns (other than the reasonably good DSLR) but the second string. And now for the quotidians, his SNQ for today (for final timing) had t Mars square Asc. As mentioned, his SQ Moon is 20°35' Cancer, conjunct his Pluto. His PSSR had Pluto on Asc paran Uranus on IC, among other things.

So there's a lot there. It's just that we probably wouldn't have been led to look for it and expect THIS except, perhaps, by that MC-Mars direction.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 4:04 am

Jim, my friend has been wanting to sell the restaurant for years, he is completely burnt out (no pun intended) with all the headaches that are attached for overseeing a very busy restaurant. He has two other equal partners in the restaurant but no way the other partners wanted to sell, and my friend was the only one of the partners who was able to oversee the hectic business end of this business. My friend has his house paid for and enough $ to live out the rest of his life confortably. I know for a fact if the partners vote not to rebuild this will turn out be a huge Jupiter relief to my friend. The labor market in Gulf Shores is so intensive competitive---no way will the partners be able to replace their long standing cooks & servers that have worked for a long time at the restaurant, these experienced employees will easily find other employment in this labor intense market. IMO, game over, my friend’s headaches of running this business has come to a relief end.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Wed Jul 19, 2023 4:56 am

Today my friend meets with the Fire Marshall who will determine if the restaurant building is more than 50% destroyed by the fire. If more than 50 % by city code the building has to be taken down to the ground. My friend’s objective is to rebuild and restore the existing building but not reopen as a restaurant, only lease the building. My friend says if the building has to be taken down to completely rebuild there will not be enough insurance $ to achieve this objective.

I told my friend with his benefic Jupiter SSR there is high % he will get a favorable ruling from the Fire Marshall. Time will soon tell.

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Wed Jul 19, 2023 7:25 am

Agreed.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:41 am

I text my friend last evening with the question:

Fire Marshall?

His response:

Don’t know score yet, to close for Fire Marshall to call on the scene of the fire.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Fri Jul 21, 2023 3:01 pm

At this moment in time, things my friend are hearing from the city and their “codes” are psychologically slamming my friend down, he feels he is fighting a losing case for being allowed to rebuild and lease the building. He is very angry/frustrated (Mars). From an astrological standpoint, this is interesting to me for it will tell me if his Solar Arc d MC n Mars trumps his very benefic current SSR. I am hoping his SSR wins-out and he will be able to achieve his objectives in his current solar year.

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Sat Jul 22, 2023 6:52 am

My friend who’s beach side café, his livelihood, was extensively destroyed by fire last Sunday, called early this morning and asked me if I could see any near term “outstanding incident” SLRs which would/could indicate if the city would allow him to rebuild his café. I have worked with my friend for many years with his “outstanding incident” SLRs, he has learned to trust em. My friend’s attorney says the % are not in favor for the city to allow my friend to rebuild his café because of certain strict new city codes. Psychologically my friend is already in an angered mood with his d MC = n Mars which timed the fire.

Below is a link to my friend’s Aug 10 DSLR, it calculates an “outstanding incident” angular Moon partile 90 DSLR Mars!
https://ibb.co/VYWFvRf

By itself it does not tell me with high % he would get a favorable ruling from the city if they happened to rule in the time period of his Aug 10 DSLR. In fact, it tells me he probably will not get from the city what he wants to head. But as Jim has taught us, always looking at the mundoscope of our return charts is very important. Let’s do this, below is his Aug 10 DSLR mundoscope:

https://ibb.co/gg7937x

It’s this mundo “outstanding incident” angular Moon partile 90 Mercury which tells me he will have % receiving some kind of emotional (Moon) Mercury (Communications). But what kind of “outstanding incident” Moon-Mercury communications? Note his Aug 10 DSLR Saturn is 2,20 conjunct his Aug 10 DSLR ASC. This is not good for my friend receiving the communications (verdict) he wants to hear from the city.
However, my friend’s Aug 10 DSLR does have an angular configuration which could be benefic in some way. His Natal Jupiter partiles conjunct his Aug 10 DSLR MC but his Natal Mars is 2,25 conjunct his Aug 10 DSLR DSC. This strong says my friend will react in a Mars-Jupiter manner if he receives a final verdict from the city with his Aug 10 DSLR. Mars-Jupiter combos is known among Siderealists at certain times as being a costly $ aspect. So my best guess to predict for my friend is: The verdict may allow him to rebuild his café but it will cost him a hell of a-lot of $, more than he/partners can afford with the risk of later---maybe getting a good lease arrangement.

Anyway, IMO, this is an excellent example with Jim’s teachings to always calculate a mundoscope of your return charts checking to see the true angular positions of the return planets as well as any possible partile angular aspects.

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:43 am

Steve, hoping I'm wrong (or that I simply haven't looked at enough charts - traced out transits and progressions, etc.), I looked at this for the rest of 2023 and see a series of disappointing, angering charts. (I put all of five minutes on this, so it's hardly thorough.) The one positive mark is that he is under a positive SSR... but these lunars are pretty rough.

August 10 DSLR: (The chart you singled out.) As you say, it's angering, inflammatory. The one good indication is natal Jupiter 0°14' from MC, but the rest is various interactions of Moon, Mercury, and Mars (the natal and transiting Moons giving slightly different orbs, but boiling down to Moon-Mercury-Mars to natal Moon-Mars in various ways. The closest aspect is
transiting Moon square natal Mars 0°04' mundo. - Possibly this could mean he fights like hell, has horrific arguments, and ends up feeling good and winning something (natal Jupiter), but the overall tone is rough. With natal Mars on Descendant (mundane square Jupiter), there could be a law suit involved.

August 25 SLR: No partile aspects but the closest angularities are natal Mars 0°22' from MC and transiting Sun in the degree of Zenith (0°45'). Sounds like he's still fighting (and maybe fighting City Hall). Since that Sun is 1°39' from opposite Saturn (widely angular), the outcome isn't optimistic.

October 4 DSLR: Nio partile aspects but natal Jupiter 0°50' from EP-a. This is the most positive chart I see until the end of the year (and it's still combative with natal Mars moderately foreground).

October 31 DSLR: Perhaps the worst chart the rest of the year. Transiting Saturn to natal Moon-Jupiter closely angular, all aspects partile.

November 15 SLR: Or maybe this one is the worst chart the rest of the year. Though the angularities are moderate (about 5°), by aspect he has (all transiting planets) Sun conjunct Mars, both square Saturn, with Mercury square his Mars. Mercury on EP-a is the most angular.

I wish I''d been able to find better news. Remember, I have looked ONLY at the lunars.

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:54 am

Steve and I both identified his Gulf Shores friend as having a very positive year is in the middle of a really miserable crisis. What impression would we get from my "bar chart" method of summarizing his SSR? Here's how the angularity and Moon aspects score by that summary method:

Jupiter = 10 (Venus = 6)
Benefic = 17, Malefic = 3
Dignity = 10, Indignity = 3
Change = 5, Spotlight = 5
Natal = 14, Transit = 6

Going by how circumstances are exactly today (still waiting on outcome), this is a wrong description of the biggest event of his year thus far. We're only halfway through that year, so things might change - we have to wait for them to play out - but at least the numerical analysis confirms that Steve and I "read the chart correctly." The chart is overwhelmingly dominated by Jupiter (with Venus - several points behind - still being the next loudest message in the chart). Benefic score is FAR above Malefic score - this should be an unusually positive, prosperous, happy year. Dignity score trounces Indignity score - he is respected and looked up to more this year. Proportionately, the message doesn't especially address change or his being in the spotlight. More than twice as many points are from natal planets than transiting planets - does this mean that most of what is happening this year is as a consequence of his own actions and reactions, more than things happening in his environment?

As I said, at the moment it looks like pretty much all of this (every sentence) is wrong.

Does a more conventional analysis of the chart - applying the "layered" angularity class method I started with at the top - give a different message? I doubt it, but let's try. Here's a conventional breakdown of his SSR:

t Neptune MC -6°10'
-------------------------
r Jupiter on WP +0°09'
r Moon WP-a +0°56'
t Jupiter Z +1°03'
r Uranus Asc +8°22'
r Mars +9°34'

t Moon-Venus op 2°13'

r Moon-Jupiter co 0°40' M
r Mars-Uranus sq 1°11' M
t Neptune sq r Uranus 1°14'

Other Partile Aspects
t Jupiter sq r Sun 0°10'
t Uranus sq r Pluto 0°23'
t Mars sq r Mars 0°26'
t Saturn op r Saturn 0°37'

Almost every way you look at this chart, it's positive. Both Jupiters are strongly angular - natal much more than transiting, but both strong. There is a Moon-Venus opposition. His natal Moon-Jupiter conjunction is exactly angular. He even has transiting Jupiter square natal Sun within 0°10', even though Sun isn't foreground to reap the full benefit.

Neptune's foreground square to his Uranus is strange, always hard to interpret. Let's ignore it for the moment. (From what Steve has said, this is "the dream to break free.")

But there is one more foreground aspect of note: By the exact way the SSR is oriented, he gets a natal Mars-Uranus mundane square that he doesn't have at birth. I wouldn't think this is very important since natal Mars and Uranus are Class 3 angularities - quite wide. (Besides, it's not like he started the fire, right?)

The final category of non-foreground partile aspects always deserves attention. Even this is headed off by Jupiter's transit to his Sun, but it has three other aspects that deserve attention. We should expect that these aspects do not describe the fundamental nature of the year but do manage to make themselves heard sometime during the year. These are Saturn opposite natal Saturn (always a life turning point, and malefic if foreground), Mars square natal Mars (there's the fire potential), and Uranus square natal Pluto (some fundamental big change).

I repeat: These should not dominate the year. The year, from the main features of the chart, should be OVERWHELMINGLY positive, but these aspects should also have a strong voice at some part of the year, as when some other chart brings them out into full expression. I haven't found that "other chart" yet or why they erupted when they did - that's worth investigating to use in the future. My main point now is that, yes, I'd read the chart the same way now that I did six months ago and, from what has happened with the fire, it doesn't look like he's having the glorious sort of year expected.

Mostly, the more we narrow the angularity bounds (looking at progressively closer angularities to get more the gist of the chart), the more positive it becomes. For example, if we drop Class 3 angularities - limiting ourselves to Class 1 - all we lose is the natal Mars and Uranus, the one aspect ion the foreground that might describe the fire. The chart looks like this:

t Neptune MC -6°10'
-------------------------
r Jupiter on WP +0°09'
r Moon WP-a +0°56'
t Jupiter Z +1°03'

t Moon-Venus op 2°13'

r Moon-Jupiter co 0°40' M
t Neptune sq r Uranus 1°14'

That's still a pretty positive chart! (More positive than it was before we narrowed it.) If we then pull out the biggest guns and focus only on planets within 3° of major angles and 2° of minor angles (plus Moon aspects, of course), it becomes stunningly, glowingly positive:

r Jupiter on WP +0°09'
r Moon WP-a +0°56'
t Jupiter Z +1°03'

t Moon-Venus op 2°13'

r Moon-Jupiter co 0°40' M

How can you get better than that?

I don't think the final chapter has been written on this year, which is only half over.

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Sat Jul 22, 2023 11:29 am

Jim Eshelman wrote: Sat Jul 22, 2023 10:54 am The final category of non-foreground partile aspects always deserves attention... it has three other aspects that deserve attention. We should expect that these aspects do not describe the fundamental nature of the year but do manage to make themselves heard sometime during the year. These are Saturn opposite natal Saturn (always a life turning point, and malefic if foreground), Mars square natal Mars (there's the fire potential), and Uranus square natal Pluto (some fundamental big change).

I repeat: These should not dominate the year. The year, from the main features of the chart, should be OVERWHELMINGLY positive, but these aspects should also have a strong voice at some part of the year, as when some other chart brings them out into full expression. I haven't found that "other chart" yet or why they erupted when they did...

The main developments of the SSR - things that can unfold latent, non angular positions - are transits to the SSR, Anlunars (and their demis), and the quotidian progressions (SQ and PSSR). I previously checked the SQ and PSSR and didn't see anything (natal and SSR Mars were several degrees from the angles, not nearly close enough), but I hadn't dug deeply into the Anlunars.

We at least get the satisfaction of seeing that Saturn opposite natal Saturn and Mars opposite natal Mars from the SSR came right to the angles for the relevant lunar return of the solar return. His July 5 Demi-Anlunar had the following (where even the benefics are bad by aspect):

13°10' Tau - s Mars
13°36' Leo - r Mars
15°27' Tau - Anlunar Asc

26°49' Ari - t Uranus
27°34' Can - r Saturn
27°51' Cap - Anlunar MC
28°11' Cap - s Saturn
28°17' Can - t Venus
1°50' Leo - t Mars

Other than missing the chance to add Neptune to the mix, it really doesn't get much worse than this!

Now, I don't want to lay all of this on the Demi-Anlunar. (After all, how many damn charts are we supposed to monitor?) It IS an important chart, though, because it confirms a couple of basic things: Partile non-foreground aspects are important in the SSR and they become active during the year when some important unfolding of the SSR unfolds them. One of the important ways the SSR unfolds is through the Anlunar.

So this is a big deal and we should pay attention for the future.

Where I don't want to overstate this finding, though, is that this two-week Demi-Anlunar doesn't alter the fundamentally benefic nature of the SSR. It shows "some event along the way in the middle of July." At the moment, this seems a gigantic event - something that's a big deal in this man's life - so either "the last chapter isn't written" and this story is still unfolding, or there is something else that's a bigger deal in the astrology. The Solar Arc Mars-angle contact surely is this in the course of his entire life, though I fully expect something about the solunars to tell the whole story, too.

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Sat Jul 22, 2023 11:36 am

By the way, from the local Gulf Shores press (actually, the Orange Beach community website), I found that the fire started about 5 PM July 16. (I thought it must have been earlier in the day, but this confirms it.) So far (from reports early the next day) the news was that the fire started in a dumpster and primarily impacted the kitchen area of the building (though with great damage).

The fire was reported across the south, including in parts of Louisiana where it appeared on travel news because locals travel to Gulf Shores a lot, often heading specifically to that restaurant. All the news emphasized that fire authorities are still investigating how the fire began. One local TV news site mentioned that other local restaurants "stepped up and offered temporary positions" to the employees, i.e., grabbed them up while the getting was good (I imagine).

Therefore - your friend's natal aside - we have a high impact mundane event to examine: Fire breaks out in regionally popular, iconic restaurant altering local economy: July 16, 2023, 5:00 PM CDT, Gulf Shores, AL. The fire began with Neptune crossing IC. The ingresses are good including identifying the location for the year and both lunar ingresses having Saturn closely angular. Transits and progressions of the Capsolar precisely (to the minute) timed the maximum unleashing of the major aspect of the year and brought it to the quotidian angles as well.

This was a mundane event targeting Gulf Shores! Your friend's chart stands on its own, and still should describe his experiences, but also he was caught up in something bigger than himself - an event for the local community as a whole - as sure as if a hurricane and struck the town directly.

Year: Capsolar {+2 at least}
(The PVP Moon-Saturn square is a 44' azimuth square with Moon on MC.)
Moon on MC 0°13'
Sun on EP-a 1°02'
Pluto on EP 2°00'
Mercury more widely foreground
-- Moon-Saturn sq 0°44' PVP
-- Moon-Pluto sq 1°50'
-- Sun-Pluto co 3°04'

NOTE: This was the last day of the old Cansolar which, for Gulf Shore, had Neptune 1°20' from Descendant.

Bridge {+2}
t Pluto sq Capsolar MC 1/15-9/8
t Pluto sq Capsolar Moon 2/10-7/28
Event window: Feb 10 to Jul 28

Quarter: Arisolar {+2}
Mercury on IC 2°43'
Sun, Uranus, Pluto more widely angular
-- Uranus-Pluto sq 0°00' M
-- Me/Ur on IC 0°42'
-- -- Mercury-Uranus sq 3°48'
-- Saturn-Uranus sq 1°38' PVP
-- Sun co non-foreground Jupiter 1°50' M
Moon-Uranus sq 2°58'

Month: Caplunar {+2}
Saturn on MC 0°17'

Week: Arilunar {+2}
Saturn on WP 1°32'
Mars barely foreground

Day: Capsolar Quotidian & Transits {+2 or better}
p MC sq t Pluto 1°11'
p Asc sq p Moon 0°38'
p EP-a op s Sun 1°19'
--------------------------
t Pluto sq s MC 0°42', s Moon 0°43' [Pl = Mo/MC 0°00']

Day: Cansolar Quotidian {+2}
p Asc op s Neptune 1°28'

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Sat Jul 22, 2023 12:24 pm

Steve, I don't think ingresses really interact with individual people's charts - I've seen too many cases that seem to disprove it. Nonetheless, I always keep looking.

In this case, there is at least one really interesting chart: Take your friend's chart and put the July 4 Caplunar around it as if it were a personal lunar return - and get ready for a jolt. (The July 10 Arisolar is nearly as good, i.e., bad.)

PS - Little things keep jumping out that I missed before. Something I don't consider causative but very interesting - symbolically on target - is that at the time of the fire he had two transiting octiles of note: Transiting Mars to natal Sun (sesqui-square 34') and transiting Sun to natal Mars (semi-square 27'). Little things like this keep accumulating, while the big things seem evasive.

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Sat Jul 22, 2023 1:16 pm

Another find - complicated by two different sets of angles responding. Checking his tertiaries we find a big one:

1°12' Vir - P3 MC [birthplace]
2°04' Vir - P3 Saturn
2°33' Pis - t Neptune

18°28' Sco - P3 Asc [residence]
18°58' Sco - P3 Mars

Other tert contacts:

18°24' Vir - P3 Venus
18°58' Vir - r Neptune

26°14' Vir - P3 Sun
26°25' Sag - r Mercury

But:

2°51' Leo - t Venus
3°08' Sco - P3 Moon
3°42' Aqu - P3 Jupiter

Post by **Jim Eshelman** » Sat Jul 22, 2023 1:23 pm

Just to emphasize that there are "wheels within wheels within wheels," this is one of the best cases I've ever seen of quat I call Quaternary Progressions - the Church of Light's "minor progressions." It's kind of mind-boggling that these things are showing in minor progression rates more than in the big charts:

20°04' Can - P4 MC
20°21' Can - r Pluto

27°15' Ari - t Uranus
27°34' Can - r Saturn
27°49' Can - P4 Mars [27°58' Vir P4 Neptune]\

29°11' Tau - r Uranus
29°29' Tau - P4 Jupiter

SteveS · Post by **SteveS** » Sun Jul 23, 2023 4:38 am

Jim wrote:

With natal Mars on Descendant (mundane square Jupiter), there could be a law suit involved.

Excellent point Jim. My friend has already sat down with his attorney to discuss a possible law suit. His attorney has collected all the cases where the city of Gulf Shores has been sued by property owners without deep pockets and its basically a no win situation for the small property owners. Right now at this moment in time my friend sees no way he achieves his objectives for rebuilding. He has explained it to me in details pertaining to the city’s new written codes since the café building was built in 1995. There are two new codes which makes it impossible for my friend to rebuild according to my friend’s attorney, its terrible for my friend at this moment in time.
Jim wrote:

I wish I''d been able to find better news. Remember, I have looked ONLY at the lunars.

Thanks for looking at these lunars Jim. I am still hoping somehow his benefic SSR will bail my friend out of a bleak looking situation.
Jim wrote:

But there is one more foreground aspect of note: By the exact way the SSR is oriented, he gets a natal Mars-Uranus mundane square that he doesn't have at birth. I wouldn't think this is very important since natal Mars and Uranus are Class 3 angularities - quite wide. (Besides, it's not like he started the fire, right?)

Not sure I understand where you are coming from on this Jim. I show he does have a mundane angular Natal rotational square of Mars-Uranus. There is one blatant malefic configuration/aspects I see in his SSR: His SSR Mars is partile 90 Natal Mars and SSR Saturn partile 180 Natal Saturn. Since these 2 SSR aspects to his Natal are “locked-in” as an influence for his 2023 solar year, it appears to me with his present psychological make-up he is feeling this Mars-Saturn effect big time as total destruction for his livelihood and ego of being an independent business owner in his community, right now he is devastated by what he is hearing from his attorney with the new city codes.
Jim wrote:

The final category of non-foreground partile aspects always deserves attention. Even this is headed off by Jupiter's transit to his Sun, but it has three other aspects that deserve attention. We should expect that these aspects do not describe the fundamental nature of the year but do manage to make themselves heard sometime during the year. These are Saturn opposite natal Saturn (always a life turning point, and malefic if foreground), Mars square natal Mars (there's the fire potential), and Uranus square natal Pluto (some fundamental big change).

Exactly Jim! I wrote my last post before I read your above post. For sure, it appears now that Mars-Mars, Saturn-Saturn imbedded in his SSR is playing more of an active role than you and I would have allowed in reading his SSR. I think when we combine this Mars-Saturn effect with his d MC = n Mars, it nails what he is feeling in his life now, as well as maybe turning out to be the main destructive theme for his entire life. Only TIME knows for sure.
Jim wrote:

I don't think the final chapter has been written on this year, which is only half over.

I certainly hope you are right Jim. His café is/was a tremendous popular local attraction, the community on the city’s facebook page is expressing much concerned if the owners will/can rebuild.