General Lee surrendered to General Grant at Appomattox Courthouse (37N22'39" 78W47'46") on April 9, 1865, signed at about 4:00 PM LMT. The charts are for Washington, DC.
Though the war technically continued for a short time after, this is broadly recognized as the end of the Civil War, and is the only such event that Lincoln lived to see. Many of the charts are also showing his murder, though the chart of the week, in particular, is a striking chart for peace. But mostly we are seeing Lincoln's murder.
Year: Capsolar
(This is, of course, the chart under which Lincoln was murdered.)
Moon on Asc (0°33')
Sun on WP (0°14')
Saturn on IC (4°36')
Bridge
t. Saturn conj. Capsolar IC (1°08')
t. Neptune conj. Cansolar EP (1°19')
t. Mars op. Cansolar MC (1°21')
Month: Caplunar
(This, as well, as the Caplunar for Lincoln's murder.)
Mercury on IC (1°05')
Neptune on IC (1°55')
-- Mercury-Neptune conj. (2°11')
-- Me/Ne on IC (0°27')
Sun on IC (6°10')
Uranus on Dsc (7°13')
Mars on Dsc (8°32')
Jupiter on Asc (8°49')
-- Mars-Jupiter op. (0°17' in mundo)
-- Mars-Uranus conj. (0°03')
-- Jupiter-Uranus op. (1°36' in mundo)
-- Su/Ur on angles (0°32')
Week: Canlunar
Venus on MC (2°03')
Pluto on MC (2°10')
-- Ve/Pl on MC (0°11')
Day: Capsolar Quotidian & Transits
p. MC sq. t. Sun (1°11')
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t. Saturn conj. s. IC (1°08')
t. Mercury sq. s. Asc (1°31')
Day: Cansolar Transits
t. Neptune conj. s. EP (1°19')
t. Mars op. s. MC (1°21')
SUMMARY
Year (0): Moon Sun (Saturn).
Bridge (+1): Saturn (Cap). Mars Neptune (Can).
Month (-1): Mercury Neptune (Sun Uranus Mars Jupiter). Su/Ur Mercury-Neptune Me/Ne Mars-Jupiter Mars-Uranus Jupiter-Uranus.
Week (+1): Venus Pluto. Ve/Pl.
Day (Capsolar, -1): Sun (CapQ). Mercury Saturn (transits).
Day (Cansolar transits, -2): Mars Neptune.
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Re: End of U.S. Civil War
This is a crummy example with little relationship to end of war charts. I think the issue is that it is so close to Lincoln's death that the two are inseparable, and these charts primarily describe the assassination.
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Jupiter Sets At Dawn wrote:I think it's a good example of how astrology can't account for every single thing.
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Well, it was a pretty big thing, yeah?Jupiter Sets At Dawn wrote:I think it's a good example of how astrology can't account for every single thing.
But these confusions abound. Was the bombing of Hiroshima a devastating horror, a military victory, the end of a war, or...?
I run into this sometimes in picking examples for SMA: The charts can be fine, but the event of often too contorted and complex to make a good example. It's wrong to exclude such things from statistics if one is attempting to test or prove something, but it's also wrong to include them if it's just going to screw with otherwise valid results. (I ran into this in the Super Bowl study, which I still haven't finished - tedious as can be for 100 team-events - because the different charts covering different lengths of time don't necessarily refer to the event in question - very complicated except in the individual examples.) (I guess I should finish that before the end of the year, but it's a long slog.)
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Arena wrote:Definetly a devastating horror. That is what it was and that is what it still is in peoples minds. It was a horrendous act of the sick politicians at the time and I think we can all agree that the whole world hopes this monstrous act will never repeat.
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And yet... the charts for the event show so many other nuances, even to the point of one loud benefic marker in Tokyo along with the other, ghastly indicators. Life is rarely one-dimensional.Arena wrote:Definitely a devastating horror. That is what it was and that is what it still is in peoples minds. It was a horrendous act of the sick politicians at the time and I think we can all agree that the whole world hopes this monstrous act will never repeat.
For Tokyo the Year chart showed end of war in the sense of change of relationships, the Quarter showed continuing war and especially an air attack, the Month at least had a prominent Moon-Mars along with the suspect Jupiter, the Week is back to showing war and especially air attack, and the day of... the day of the event shows more than one side. The main timer was transiting Mars crossing Capsolar Midheaven (and also the CanQ MC), but the CapQ also had Mercury and Venus crossing angles - more a sign of a peace treaty, and "end of war" event. (The biggest deal for the day were the Mars hits, though.)
In Washington, the charts were simpler. The Quarter chart showed victory, the Month showed air assault, and the Week chart showed strong, confusing feelings leaning toward the tragic.
My only point is that there usually are multiple psychological threads operating and, in really big events with diverse parties involved, it isn't all that rare to see mixed messages in the charts.
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Arena wrote:Yes I do understand what you mean/t and that is of course a valid point for us looking into astrology, events can indeed give us and evoke mixed messages/feelings. It is because the nature of the event is of course mixed, like the one you mentioned. It was the end of war, it was victory for the US (very bitter though that probably left a bad taste in most American mouths like the rest of the world). I just wanted to point out what the strongest message to me and probably most people was. So this does not surprise me:My only point is that there usually are multiple psychological threads operating and, in really big events with diverse parties involved, it isn't all that rare to see mixed messages in the charts.I think now, so many years later most people will tell you if you ask them about this event, that this was one of the ugliest, tragic, horrendous event/act that the human kind has delivered in our existence (along with the holocaust).(The biggest deal for the day were the Mars hits, though.)
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Sure. And I agree. For astrological analysis of the event, I'm only interested, though, in the psychological impact it had at the time it occurred, since that's what the charts disclose.
And it was horrible then. The magnitude of the horror was the whole point. I occasionally think about Harry Truman, with Sun in Aries and Moon in Libra, having war and peace arm-wrestling within him and finding the choice that served both. The historic reports are that, when he learned there was a weapon of horrific scale that could end the war at once, he took almost no time to order its deployment.
And it was horrible then. The magnitude of the horror was the whole point. I occasionally think about Harry Truman, with Sun in Aries and Moon in Libra, having war and peace arm-wrestling within him and finding the choice that served both. The historic reports are that, when he learned there was a weapon of horrific scale that could end the war at once, he took almost no time to order its deployment.
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