In that ill-fated year of 1963 Jacqueline (Jackie) Kennedy lost a premature born son (Patrick) two days after birth and 3 months later lost her assassinated husband (JFK). Never have I witness a triple planetary paran with a SSR. Jackie’s mundo 1963 SSR link below:
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ME 00,01 ASC
SA 00,42 DSC
NEP 00,28 IC
Angular Moon belongs in this stunning 1963 SSR angular planetary configuration too-- for that most malefic year in her life.
Jackie Kennedy's most malefic fated 1963 SSR
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Re: Jackie Kennedy's most malefic fated 1963 SSR
Steve, I've known about this chart for years and there's a complication with it: Washington is not where she was on her birthday, nor where either of the main events (loss of her son and death of her husband) occurred. It IS where Jack's funeral occurred, and where she returned following both losses, so if one credits a relocated SSR with importance (i.e., shifting it to Washington for when she's there, even though the chart didn't occur there) then it does show much of the mourning period of the two events.
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacquelin ... infant_son
For the summer, the Kennedy's rented a house on Squaw Island (now called Halls Island) near Hyannis Port, MA. I've never extracted exact coordinates off a map, but it's within a few miles of Hyannis Port, so I suggest calculating the SSR for there. (She may have even gone to the Kennedy house to celebrate her birthday. In any case, we're within a few miles.)
The chart is much the same, but with emphasis shifted. It retains the exactly angular Saturn, loses transiting Neptune, but brings Uranus' transit to natal Neptune closer to Ascendant. Besides transiting Saturn and natal Neptune, the third most angular planet is SSR Moon on IC (these were intimate, family oriented, strongly felt evets), and that Moon aspects both Saturn and Neptune (plus Mercury) within 3°. Here is the breakdown. The SSR occurred July 29, 1963, 7:28:14 AM EDR. For Hyannis Port, MA:
t Pluto on Asc -8°14'
t Uranus on Asc -6°05'
r Neptune on Asc -3°02'
t Mercury on EP -1°03'
t Saturn on WP -0°15'
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t Moon on IC +3°53'
t Neptune on IC +7°49'
t Mercury-Saturn op 0°38' M
t Saturn-Neptune sq 1°13' M
t Mercury-Neptune sq 1°51' M
t Moon-Mercury sq 2°05' M
t Uranus-Pluto co 2°09'
t Moon-Saturn sq 2°44' M
t Moon-Neptune co 2°52'
Using this location pulls an even more tragic set of aspects. Look at the intertwining of Moon, Mercury, Saturn, and Neptune for her state of mind! Relocating to Washington brings Mercury (0°00'), Neptune (0°27'), and Saturn (0°41') closer to angles but loses half the critical aspects (e.g., Moon-Saturn is too wide to take seriously, though Saturn-Neptune is closer).
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacquelin ... infant_son
For the summer, the Kennedy's rented a house on Squaw Island (now called Halls Island) near Hyannis Port, MA. I've never extracted exact coordinates off a map, but it's within a few miles of Hyannis Port, so I suggest calculating the SSR for there. (She may have even gone to the Kennedy house to celebrate her birthday. In any case, we're within a few miles.)
The chart is much the same, but with emphasis shifted. It retains the exactly angular Saturn, loses transiting Neptune, but brings Uranus' transit to natal Neptune closer to Ascendant. Besides transiting Saturn and natal Neptune, the third most angular planet is SSR Moon on IC (these were intimate, family oriented, strongly felt evets), and that Moon aspects both Saturn and Neptune (plus Mercury) within 3°. Here is the breakdown. The SSR occurred July 29, 1963, 7:28:14 AM EDR. For Hyannis Port, MA:
t Pluto on Asc -8°14'
t Uranus on Asc -6°05'
r Neptune on Asc -3°02'
t Mercury on EP -1°03'
t Saturn on WP -0°15'
---------------------------
t Moon on IC +3°53'
t Neptune on IC +7°49'
t Mercury-Saturn op 0°38' M
t Saturn-Neptune sq 1°13' M
t Mercury-Neptune sq 1°51' M
t Moon-Mercury sq 2°05' M
t Uranus-Pluto co 2°09'
t Moon-Saturn sq 2°44' M
t Moon-Neptune co 2°52'
Using this location pulls an even more tragic set of aspects. Look at the intertwining of Moon, Mercury, Saturn, and Neptune for her state of mind! Relocating to Washington brings Mercury (0°00'), Neptune (0°27'), and Saturn (0°41') closer to angles but loses half the critical aspects (e.g., Moon-Saturn is too wide to take seriously, though Saturn-Neptune is closer).
Jim Eshelman
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Re: Jackie Kennedy's most malefic fated 1963 SSR
Thanks Jim, I understand your excellent points. Her 1963 solar year was a most tragic year for her, losing a son & her husband, so sad.
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Re: Jackie Kennedy's most malefic fated 1963 SSR
Jackie's chart is one of my favorite examples of how solar and lunar returns work according to location. My observations over the last six years (while Marion and I have been consistently having our solar returns away from LA) point to the following summary of where returns are effective:
Lunar Returns are a different story: Here SLR and Demi-SLR set up in Washington and the event occurred in Dallas.
THE SLR for Dallas has a mix of planets but it's basic meaning seems consolidated by its foreground aspects: Transiting Sun squared natal Pluto (2°55' mundo) and natal Sun (1°59'). She would have a Pluto event, something separative that would permanently alter her life, probably occurring under a bright spotlight of attention. (Foreground planets were transiting Moon, Sun, and Neptune + natal Moon, Sun, Mercury, and Pluto.) Among partile non-foreground aspects we find a Venus-Saturn square 0°08' in mundo.
But for Washington, where it setup, the message was even clearer: Foreground aspects included Mars square Saturn (1°06' mundo) and Saturn square Neptune (1°26'). That's about as clear as it gets! (This SLR lasted through the period of the funeral, too; after which she had a new SLR 11/28 primarily showing her life turned inside-out with changes.) The closest angular planets are Saturn, 2°40' from Ascendant and Neptune 1°18' from Zenith, plus natal Neptune 1°43' from WP. (Other foreground planets were transiting Mars - so she had all three transiting malefics angular - plus natal Sun-Mercury.)
THE DEMI-SLR (November 14) for Dallas again tells the story best by its foreground aspects. The closest is a Venus-Saturn square (1°00' mundo), each planet about 5° off angles. The other close foreground aspects, in order of strength, were Saturn-Neptune, Sun-Neptune, and Venus-Mars - all fitting. (Transits to the natal were complicated: The closest was Venus opposite her Jupiter, but this was part of Venus, Mars, and Saturn all aspecting her Jupiter.) Partile non-foreground aspects were led by a violent Mars-Pluto square 0°05' and Venus square Uranus 0°56'.
For Washington, the Demi-SLR was a little stranger. Foreground transiting aspects involved benefics (Venus square Uranus, both aspecting natal Jupiter). Instead, it was her natal Venus-Saturn opposition on angles, with natal Saturn the most angular planet overall, 0°44' from Descendant. One might have missed the tone of this if relying on transiting planets only, since Venus-Uranus usually is much more fun than she had for those two weeks - though the foreground natal planets would have caused one to stop and wonder if it was going to be that much fun, given that close natal Venus-Saturn dominating. With a public figure, I'd probably have predicted some uncertainty or distance in an important relationship, not having fun at one's own party. The partile non-foreground aspects are the 0°05' Mars square Pluto square and 0°18' Saturn-Neptune square. - The telling detail, I think, is that she went from Washington where natal Venus-Saturn was the unmistakably strongest aspect to Dallas where transiting Venus-Saturn was the unmistakably strongest aspect.
Wherever she was relocated, in this grievous year tragedy was scheduled to center on that approximate week in late November: PSSR Moon was 18' from square SSR Saturn. (This came exactly to the angles at the moment of her husband's murder.)
This is probably going to be a primary example of how location operates in Volume II of The Big Book.
PS - When you have a chance, calculate her Kinetic Lunar Return and Demi-KLR, both for Dallas (the demi set up early on 11/22/63). These are absolutely stunning charts that show well why the KLR would be the one technique I'd add beyond the standard SSR/SLR.
- In theory, ANY astrological chart (whether natal or return chart) is effective where it occurs and then also is subject to relocation. For a natal, e.g., you never lose your birth chart and you do pick up angularities from a relocated natal.
- Solar returns operate for the location where they first set up. Their relocated angles have little to no effect - in contrast to the original location, the relocated angles are extremely weak (little to no effect; even transits to them are weak).
- Lunar returns, on the other hand, are highly adaptable. Perhaps they are stronger where they first occur, but they readily take up the symbolism of a new location when one moves.
- The difference probably relates to the fact that Sun is enduring (even with symbolism of eternity), whereas Moon is naturally shifting and adapting.
Lunar Returns are a different story: Here SLR and Demi-SLR set up in Washington and the event occurred in Dallas.
THE SLR for Dallas has a mix of planets but it's basic meaning seems consolidated by its foreground aspects: Transiting Sun squared natal Pluto (2°55' mundo) and natal Sun (1°59'). She would have a Pluto event, something separative that would permanently alter her life, probably occurring under a bright spotlight of attention. (Foreground planets were transiting Moon, Sun, and Neptune + natal Moon, Sun, Mercury, and Pluto.) Among partile non-foreground aspects we find a Venus-Saturn square 0°08' in mundo.
But for Washington, where it setup, the message was even clearer: Foreground aspects included Mars square Saturn (1°06' mundo) and Saturn square Neptune (1°26'). That's about as clear as it gets! (This SLR lasted through the period of the funeral, too; after which she had a new SLR 11/28 primarily showing her life turned inside-out with changes.) The closest angular planets are Saturn, 2°40' from Ascendant and Neptune 1°18' from Zenith, plus natal Neptune 1°43' from WP. (Other foreground planets were transiting Mars - so she had all three transiting malefics angular - plus natal Sun-Mercury.)
THE DEMI-SLR (November 14) for Dallas again tells the story best by its foreground aspects. The closest is a Venus-Saturn square (1°00' mundo), each planet about 5° off angles. The other close foreground aspects, in order of strength, were Saturn-Neptune, Sun-Neptune, and Venus-Mars - all fitting. (Transits to the natal were complicated: The closest was Venus opposite her Jupiter, but this was part of Venus, Mars, and Saturn all aspecting her Jupiter.) Partile non-foreground aspects were led by a violent Mars-Pluto square 0°05' and Venus square Uranus 0°56'.
For Washington, the Demi-SLR was a little stranger. Foreground transiting aspects involved benefics (Venus square Uranus, both aspecting natal Jupiter). Instead, it was her natal Venus-Saturn opposition on angles, with natal Saturn the most angular planet overall, 0°44' from Descendant. One might have missed the tone of this if relying on transiting planets only, since Venus-Uranus usually is much more fun than she had for those two weeks - though the foreground natal planets would have caused one to stop and wonder if it was going to be that much fun, given that close natal Venus-Saturn dominating. With a public figure, I'd probably have predicted some uncertainty or distance in an important relationship, not having fun at one's own party. The partile non-foreground aspects are the 0°05' Mars square Pluto square and 0°18' Saturn-Neptune square. - The telling detail, I think, is that she went from Washington where natal Venus-Saturn was the unmistakably strongest aspect to Dallas where transiting Venus-Saturn was the unmistakably strongest aspect.
Wherever she was relocated, in this grievous year tragedy was scheduled to center on that approximate week in late November: PSSR Moon was 18' from square SSR Saturn. (This came exactly to the angles at the moment of her husband's murder.)
This is probably going to be a primary example of how location operates in Volume II of The Big Book.
PS - When you have a chance, calculate her Kinetic Lunar Return and Demi-KLR, both for Dallas (the demi set up early on 11/22/63). These are absolutely stunning charts that show well why the KLR would be the one technique I'd add beyond the standard SSR/SLR.
Jim Eshelman
www.jeshelman.com
www.jeshelman.com
Re: Jackie Kennedy's most malefic fated 1963 SSR
Jim wrote:
Excellent observationWherever she was relocated, in this grievous year tragedy was scheduled to center on that approximate week in late November: PSSR Moon was 18' from square SSR Saturn. (This came exactly to the angles at the moment of her husband's murder.)