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Elizabeth Warren

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Apr 21, 2016

Astrotheme.com gives birth data for Elizabeth Warren as June 22, 1949,1:51 PM, Oklahoma City, OK. No source is given, though this site usually lists untimed (noon) charts when they don't have a source. (They just don't communicate about it very well.)

So, it's X-rated :) (i.e., time unknown).

She is, in any case, a Gemini-Aries - the second financial wizard with this Sun-Moon combination that we've seen in the last 24 hours. This birth time also gives her Venus at MC, which is consistent with her general grace and the affection shown for her. Neptune is in the rising foreground. Her Sun is partile conjunct Uranus (0°13').

She comes to mind today because the Clinton campaign has started talking about running mates. I had openly said (not based on astrology, just on political sense) that Hillary surely would need a male running mate - some measure of playing cautiously while running a ground-breaking campaign. But the campaign announced that women are indeed going to populate its short list, and Warren is an obvious figure for them to consider and vet - probably the only candidate in the nation that would cause the Sanders crowd to get truly passionate (rather than just accommodating) about a Hillary ticket.

So, what's going on with her chart in the "big picture"?

Uranus has finished with the square to her Venus (and possible MC). Pluto is about to oppose her Venus (and possible MC, and square her possible Asc). Neptune is exactly square her Mars right now and - unhelpfully - will square her Mercury through the coming months. Saturn is not entirely done with her Mercury and Mars.

Warren is going to have strong feelings and responses to election day and, perhaps, even inauguration day regardless of whether she's on ticket; but we would expect unusual showing for the Democratic convention if she were nominated. Shall we take a look?

Democratic National Convention July 25-28 (use 8 PM, 27th is probably most likely)
t. Neptune -90- r. Mercury +10'
t. Uranus -45- r. Mars -30'
t. Saturn -180- r. Mars -01'
t. Venus -90- r. Moon +04'

Saturn opposes her Mars exactly on that night. This does not at all look like she's getting nominated. She's in an unusually unhappy, frustrated state of mind and doesn't really know what to do with it. She's combative and perhaps even a bit flailing about. And yet, that Venus square to her Moon is also exact in the hour or so that the convention is likely to name its VP candidate and present the ticket together. I'm not quite sure how to layer that in with the rest. (This presumes, of course, that this birth time is correct.)

Oh, and it's also the night of her lunar return - almost the hour! Her July 27 SLR for Philadelphia has Mars precisely at MC (square Mercury), Sun precisely at Dsc. Natal Jupiter is moderately foreground. Sounds like she's in combat, and on a roll! (Iv this birth time is correct.)

Election Day 11/8/16 (use 11 PM)
t. Neptune -90- r. Mars -44'
t. Jupiter -0- r. Neptune -31' [same as Hillary's main aspect of the night]
t. Sun -135- r. Sun-Uranus (+06', +30')

Inauguration Day 1/20/17, 12:00 PM
t. Pluto -90- r. Asc -48'
t. Neptune -90- r. Mars +15'
t. Uranus -90- r. MC +32' [depends on validity of this birth time]
t. Jupiter -0- r. MC [depends on validity of this birth time]
t. Sun -0- r. Jupiter -37'

She actually has a phenomenal showing for inauguration day. Nothing else before suggests to me that she would be a candidate, but she looks top of the mark for inauguration day - much as Hillary did in 2009 (she had the best chart of anyone). So I'm guessing... Secretary of the Treasury.
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Re: Elizabeth Warren

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Jupiter Sets At Dawn wrote:I followed that time back and it's a rectification by a man named Kannon McAfee, who later posted on "exothermoculture" which is where astrotheme got the chart:
I’m starting to doubt the 17 Libra chart enough to pursue the other possibilities. In taking a broader sweeping search, I have eliminated four signs for the Asc of her chart, Virgo, Taurus, Aries, Pisces. The 17 Libra chart, while it performs well, leaves doubt because of its Venusian emphasis – Asc sq Venus. This could be correct, since it meets all my strict standards for chart validation, but there is room for doubt. Therefore I am investigating the full 24-hour period.

The difficulty with her birth data is that she was born in “Oklahoma City” which can mean a number of actual locations within that metro area. Oklahoma City itself includes 4 counties.
But put me down as another vote for her for Secretary of the Treasury.
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SteveS wrote:JSAD wrote:
But put me down as another vote for her for Secretary of the Treasury.
We damn sure need some brains (possible Genius) in DC pertaining to sound common sense financial things.
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