Anomalies

[SteveS]

I love to investigate anomalies discovered in the last 30 years by certain authors. These anomalies were discovered before rapid advances in new technologies which now are proving certain precise things about these anomalies. It is a proven fact that many ancient mythologies from different cultures from all over the world reference something to do with a great flood affecting the entire globe in many ways. Since 2007 much evidence has been correlated that an extinction- level cataclysm caused by a fragmented comet hit the North American Ice Sheet and other parts of the globe between 12,800 and 11,600 years ago labeled by science as the Younger Dryas Age. I personally believe certain Ancients have tried to convey to future humanity certain esoteric facts about ancient history using the Precession Cycle, but that is another story. For now and next I want to focus on rock solid evidence for fingerprints of a cataclysmic sudden great flood which occurred in North America.

Start the following link at the 150 min mark allowing about an hour and half for this most interesting geological evidence & scientific facts about a sudden great flood affecting parts of America:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H5LCLljJho&t=7077s

[Jim Eshelman]

Between 10,800 and 9,600 BC? 10,879 BC was the start of the Leo age which lasted a little longer than the time you mentioned. - Just documenting this for future reference. That makes the start of the Leo Age basically the start of the human history as we know it.

[SteveS]

Jim wrote:

That makes the start of the Leo Age basically the start of the human history as we know it.

Exactly Jim!!!! And that is exactly what is recorded at Giza with its stupendous Monuments known in Pharaonic Mythology as “Zep Tepi, The First Time.” In other words, Giza was built representing Zep Tepi, the First Time.” As well as this “First Time” ending with the Age of Aquarius 180 from the Age of Leo (2376 AD), precisely marked with Precession at Giza. I know it seems crazy, but it appears with my intense studies into ancient mythologies there existed some kind of precise, profound knowledge with the Precession Cycle way back into pre-history.

[Jim Eshelman]

I know it seems crazy, but it appears with my intense studies into ancient mythologies there existed some kind of precise, profound knowledge with the Precession Cycle way back into pre-history.

Where it seems obviously clear is that they would have been able to detect the time of the Full Moon in Aquarius as spring - the seasons being obvious enough - with the vernal equinox occurring with Sun in Leo. (BTW, giving your mass extinction timeline, all of this would have to have been in the last third of the Leo Age, the first two thirds being times of mass extinction and immediate recovery.)

But to call this the precession cycle is controversial. I seriously doubt (especially in humanity newly returning from a mass extinction event) that they knew the equinoxes moved. It seems more obvious that they were indifferent to them. Later periods clearly didn't know about the equinoxes until late 1st millennium BC. All the confusion of the Babylonian zodiac becoming confused and tropicalized - basically, the creation of multiple tropical zodiacs - came from Greek and Greek era beliefs that the equinoxes were absolutely fixed and therefore the skies had to be attached to them. That they didn't play a role in Egypt's discovery or creation of the zodiac is a significant part of Fagan's argument for a sidereal zodiac in antiquity.

But I have every reason to think that they knew, in this late Leo Age time, that spring began in the month that Sun set with the bright stars of Leo just above the western horizon and the Moon becoming full in Aquarius, which was the first part of the sky to rise in the east at sunset; and they had the ability to align construction with the equinoxes without knowing that they moved.

[Veronica]

What if the seasons weren't obvious enough?
What if the climate was all screwy because of the mass extinction event and it was hard to discern the seasons? If our ancient ancestors were living in a time when they unsure of thier environment and what was coming next, maybe that's what drove them to try and figure out a way to keep time themselves.

[SteveS]

Whoever masterminded the Giza Plateau definitely understood the math of the Precession Cycle for at least a half precession cycle. The declination cycle symbolized with the Queens Pyramids (Orion’s Belt) & Zeta Orionis at Giza proves this IMO.

But for the best proof I have seen that knowledge of the Precession Cycle goes back many thousands of years comes from the scholarly book “Hamlet’s Mill”, an essay investigating the origins of human knowledge and its transmission through myth. This book is a very dense read (I don’t recommend as a fun causal read) with its quotes with ancient myths but it proves to me there is a major chapter of history missing, maybe a large swath of history erase with a cataclysm with some type of lost civilization understanding things about the Precession Cycle that would blow our minds, maybe some type of ancient brotherhood passing certain knowledges down through the long history of humanity. Myth proves to me somehow there was a transmission of knowledge about Precession, but as to as WHY is a mystery. It’s like the ancient sages are trying to tell us there is something very important about the Precession Cycle which is important knowledge. I think new technology dawning with the approaching Aquarius Age is allowing researches with astronomical knowledge to better read many of the ancient megalith sites around the world coded with astronomical language.

But if, as it appeared once, it was the mysteriously ordained behavior of the heavenly sphere, or the cosmos as a whole, then who could escape astrological emotion?
For the precession took on an overpowering significance. It became the vast impenetrable pattern of fate itself….

It could be the ancient sages knew what this “fate” brought to our planet with Precession of the Ages? Besides, its the Sidereal Signs which brings us our fate for our personalitiues.

[Jim Eshelman]

Steve, I don't know why I'm feeling prompted to put this here - it seems off topic - but I'm writing it as prompted.

The obliquity of the ecliptic (Earth's poles' and equator's divergence from the plane of Earth's orbit) changes 0°00'46.815" of arc per century. I can't guarantee this stays consistent across tens of thousands of years, but JPL says it should stay accurate to within half a second over the last 10,000 years.

These means that the value 23°26'21.45" at the start of the 21st century, had shifted about 100' (1°40') since the start of the Leo Age in 10,879 BCE.

Actually, it didn't shift that much: There are two other gradual shift patterns in it, one that accelerates the change over time and a very tiny one that reduces it. To be geeky a moment, the tiniest one reverses the shift at the cube of the number of centuries in the past we go (128x128x128 centuries) times 0.00181" which, by the time we've gone back nearly 13,000 years, has shifted the change just over a degree in the opposite direction. In 10,879 BCE, the obliquity of the ecliptic was 24°02' instead of our current 23°26'.

That's not a lot; but it matters to certain things. For example, it moves not just the equinoxes but also moves where the celestial equator falls across the sky. This, in turn, affects where the local horizon falls across the sky. There's a fold-out illustration in Gleadow's The Origin of the Zodiac (opposite page 192) that shows the sky of the "Horoscope of Eternity" with the local horizons of 2767 BCE and 1300 BE both drawn for comparison - and Sirius exactly on the horizon for both of them.

Again, I don't know why I felt impelled to post this for you, but there it is for whatever. (Maybe I was just supposed to prompt you to pull Gleadow's book off the shelf. Dunno.)

I was originally looking at this today to remind myself whether the obliquity just keeps shifting in one direction until (perhaps) the poles shift as we know they have done many times in the past. The answer is no, it doesn't keeping leaning more and more - it behaves like a spinning top that starts to wander off axis and then (corrected by compensatory forces), starts moving itself back upwards. The time-cubed part of the equation reverses the direction increasingly over time. Still, if only the 46.815"/century shift were a factor, it would still take over 1,800 centuries (180,000 years) for the change to wipe out our current 23°26' obliquity.

PS - I'm moving this to the "Many Things" forum. It's not actually about experimental astrological systems but, rather, under "Misc. Topics."

[SteveS]

Jim wrote:

There's a fold-out illustration in Gleadow's The Origin of the Zodiac (opposite page 192) that shows the sky of the "Horoscope of Eternity" with the local horizons of 2767 BCE and 1300 BE both drawn for comparison - and Sirius exactly on the horizon for both of them.

Jim, I have not studied Gleadow’s book. I am going to try and order it today, thanks for your insights—something tells me I need to read/study this book asking you follow-up questions.

Back to the ancient flood myths from many different cultures which I have studied.

This is most interesting: Only since 2007 has many academics come together and summited well researched papers over the following years. I have read summaries of these research papers up to 2014. I am now convinced a large fragmented Comet hit the North American & European Ice Sheets and most of the Fertile Crescent app 12,800 years ago. It was this fragmented Comet which cause a global cataclysm and was responsible for the rich flood Myths which was promulgated by ancient cultures. A summary of this Comet Hypothesis here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_D ... hypothesis

I am also mostly convinced but reserve the right to change my mind-- that it may be more possible than we realize that surviving remnants of antediluvian astronomical Sages from an antediluvian Civilization, mostly wiped out by this Comet Cataclysm, may have had a predicted tool with Precession when our Solar System entered region(s) which brought the Earth back into danger zones for Comet strikes. It’s called the Taurids Meteor Stream with a summary here:

https://www.antarcticajournal.com/tauri ... -to-earth/

Otherwise, how/why do we explain there is a clear half-precession cycle coded into the Giza Plateau with their Monuments displaying the Astronomical Science of Precession with Orion’s 3 Belt Stars? If Sirius has something important to do with Precession, then all the more reason for me to believe some kind of antediluvian astronomical knowledge has been transmitted down through long ages of History. Myths pertaining to probably the Star Sirius exists everywhere in many ancient cultures---the book “Hamlets Mill” proves this to my mind. This means to me the beginning of Pharaonic Egypt was a Legacy inherited from the far forgotten past; otherwise, how do we explain Pharaonic Egypt springing forward all of a sudden in history out of nowhere---at its culture peak? There are so many other Anomalies in Ancient Egypt/Giza.

What an age we are living in with so much information at our fingertips/eyes.

[Jim Eshelman]

Steve, Amazon unbelievably has the hardcover for $16!
https://www.amazon.com/Origin-Zodiac-Ru ... d_swatch_0

On further inspection, this is a Castle Books edition - a reprint. In the past, they've done solid work but not the academic manufacturing made to last with heavy use of my 1968 Jonathan Cape edition. For what we can expect is a superbly bound paperback, the Dover pb is about $2 less.

[SteveS]

Outstanding Jim! Its ordered--be here Dec 16, thanks.