"Outstanding Incidents" Ingress Charts

[SteveS]

Veterans on this forum know I am a strong advocate for Jim’s “outstanding incidents” solunars charts where Jim wrote back in the 70’s:

It is when angularity and aspect partility coincide that outstanding incidents (OI) are most likely to come about.

Back in Nov I had an OI SLR which timed & put me into contact with an earth scientist who has got me deeply interested in new things about our Planet's ancient History; and, now I am in the process of trying to explain to him & a coupe of his other colleagues the true astronomical/astrological science involved with Sidereal Mundane Astrology---so I thought I would start him off with a dozy, the 1816 OI Aries Ingress Chart when much of our planet went without a Summer season. Read about here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Without_a_Summer

This 1816 Aries Ingress is mind blowing with its partile aspects which starved millions of people without a growing season for their food, chart link below: I did the location for Paris, for Europe was clobbered by this 1816 OI Aries Solar Ingress, but this Aries Ingress affected lots of locations on the planet earth.

https://ibb.co/ydHTNKb

First we see a Full Moon on Paris Horizon---Partile!

Second we see a partile 180 Mars-Neptune! This drove food prices to the Moon tormenting millions of starving people on the planet with scarcity of food with very poor growing conditions with no summer.

Third, let your eyes/mind see how this angular partile Full Moon was slammed with partile aspects sextiles/trines to the malefics of Mars, Saturn, and Neptune, ouch!
The lesson learned with this Solar Ingress chart: When/If we ever see a # 7 Volcano blow its top anywhere in this world like the 1815 eruption Mount Tambora (“the largest in at least 1,300 years”) , we need to immediately check future Solar Ingress Charts. The 1816 OI Aries Ingress happend a year after Tambora blew its top!

More “outstanding incidents” Ingress Charts to come…..

[Jim Eshelman]

Thanks, Steve.

Years ago - couple of years into the original SMA project I think, and on the old site - I did a review of the charts we'd catalogued in terms of how much difference partile angle contacts mattered in mundane charts. The results are here:
https://solunars.com/viewtopic.php?f=32 ... 3224#p3219

These results were quite interesting to me and leaning in the direction we expected. The bottom line as that, no, partile angle contacts aren't required for bit events (mostly, 3° was as good as 1° on ingress angularity, and there's no real difference 1° and 2° on a quotidian angle), but there IS a heavy leaning toward large events being filtered from smaller ones and for a line somewhere near that 1° mark distinguishing which planets are more important than others.

Perhaps the biggest challenge not fully resolved in the mundane model is how to tell the difference between start of a war vs. someone really losing their temper - between a catastrophic flood and merely unseasonably great rain. The issue of scale and intensity. I think mostly we're on the right track using partile angularity as a filter without getting stuck in the expectation that partility is ever required.

[Jim Eshelman]

The one place we disagree on this is that I know of no evidence suggesting that trines and sextiles have the slightest relevance in ingress charts. (They don't even exist.)

Worldwide this Arisolar had that Full Moon and, for many places it had the Mars-Neptune opposition square Venus-Pluto on angles - nearly all of those aspects (all but Venus-Neptune) being partile.

BTW, for the suffering of that summery, look at the Cansolar which covered most of the summer and how Mars and Saturn lines drape across all of western Europe (along with the worldwide nearly partile Moon-Pluto conjunction).

[SteveS]

Jim wrote:

The one place we disagree on this is that I know of no evidence suggesting that trines and sextiles have the slightest relevance in ingress charts. (They don't even exist.)

Sure, I understand this point about your work. Yet, I don’t believe it was a coincidence that all of those partile trines & sextiles were in this planetary picture with the angular malefic aspected full moon over Europe. It was definitely a “Bad Full Moon Rising” for Europe in the Spring of 1816, no telling the failures encountered with Spring planting season. I am becoming involved on a low level (for now) with a group of people who are into the earth sciences mainly studying what was the main trigger for the Younger Dryas event app 12,000 years ago. They think Science today has proven it had something to do with a large fragmented comet with a close pass to earth that melted the age sheets from the last great Ice Age, creating huge melt water impulses. There is an anonymous billionaire who has just now started funding about a 100 scientists belonging to the Comet Research Group, or least this is what I have been told. This group up till now have been funding themselves with their field work. My main objective is trying to get my foot into the door with a person who has a sizeable audience and is well connected, or least it appears so to my mind. I want to try and bring to the attention to this one person the importance of Sidereal Mundane Astrology as a viable source for a possible forewarning factor for possible malefic mundane events on an Earth/Planet scale. This person is not an astrologer but has well founded knowledges with celestial astronomy and is well versed in Geometry principles. He would be able to grasp the main astronomical principles in your SMA book. He also lives in an area which is close to my house. My main objective for my June conference is to network as much as possible raising the awareness for how important Sidereal Mundane Astrology could become for a forecasting tool pertaining to certain possible mundane Earth events. I have no commercial interests, only for educational/learning potentials for myself and maybe for other scientists into the earth sciences with maybe a looks-see at SMA. I doubt I will get far with my objectives at the conference for I will be dealing with Natal Saturn on a SLR angle, but my Natal 9H Saturn has served me well in my life pertaining to learning things.

BTW, for the suffering of that summery, look at the Cansolar which covered most of the summer and how Mars and Saturn lines drape across all of western Europe (along with the worldwide nearly partile Moon-Pluto conjunction).

Excellent observations Jim.

[SteveS]

Jim, before I move on with more “outstanding incidents” SMA Ingress Charts, I want to observer I saw no SMA Charts clearly explaining par-excellent planetary symbolism to me for “the most powerful volcanic eruption in recorded history with a Volcanic Explosively Index (VEI) of 7” for Mount Tambora’s massive eruption on April 10 1815. 8,25 S; 118,00 E. The only thing I noticed for possible consideration is a Mars 14,24 Scorpio conjunct Uranus 13,18 Scorpio (Vargottama) non-angular in the 1815 Capsolar. But we do not have enough statistical evidence to even begin to prove a Mars Vargottama conjunct Malefic Vargottama would qualify for an aspect applying to anywhere in the world like a non-angular Moon aspect. For sure, the massive Tambora eruption eventually affected the whole world with “outstanding” destructive results but only showed-up later with prominent SMA charts. Anyway, for me, this was an interesting learning looks-see with SMA along with your 1816 Cansolar observations for Euorpe.

[Jim Eshelman]

I saw no SMA Charts clearly explaining par-excellent planetary symbolism to me for “the most powerful volcanic eruption in recorded history with a Volcanic Explosively Index (VEI) of 7” for Mount Tambora’s massive eruption on April 10 1815. 8,25 S; 118,00 E.

Exactly! Tambora is an anomaly - so much so that I gave it a section of its own in the Volcanoes chapter (Chapter 9) of SMA. In the current version, this begins on p. 78, "The Volcano That Doesn't Work."

I felt it wrong to exclude that "biggest" event, but also wrong to meld such an extreme outlier with the statistics of all the others - so I gave it a separate section. You can read the full treatment, but you've probably already seem that it's almost a non-stop Jupiter event.

At the end of the discussion, I gave one possible explanation, but I'm not enough of a geologist to know if I'm right. Something geological must distinguish this volcano from the rest and maybe I've identified what it is - but it doesn't help us much. - So, other than acknowledge it's a complete outlier, we more or less have to ignore it.

The Capsolar is dominated by a Mercury-Jupiter square (the only occurrence of this aspect in the entire set of volcanoes) and - in case we weren't clear that this IS a significant aspect - the CapQ brought this exactly to the angles for the eruption.

The lunar ingresses are actually the best charts, though I wouldn't call them great (and I wouldn't rely just on these to say, Aha, we have the answer). Remembering that the Week chart often has a big part of the story, notice that the Arilunar has Venus partile square Saturn exactly angular plus a foreground Mars-Saturn conjunction. But after that, the daily timing was quite terrible.

Something I haven't looked into: This wasn't the first eruption in that cycle. Eruption is a slow process, and a specific, large eruption occurred days earlier. The one we usually examine is just the most dramatic belch.

But I give my best guess on what is unique about this volcano at the end of that discussion.

The only thing I noticed for possible consideration is a Mars 14,24 Scorpio conjunct Uranus 13,18 Scorpio (Vargottama) non-angular in the 1815 Capsolar. But we do not have enough statistical evidence to even begin to prove a Mars Vargottama conjunct Malefic Vargottama would qualify for an aspect applying to anywhere in the world like a non-angular Moon aspect.

While I think your unusual, untraditional view of what Vargottama means is not a valid astrological factor at all, we can actually test for this a bit. It looks like your parameters were: Mars near (let's say, within 1°) of the points at 45° intervals of 0° Capricorn in a Capsolar. We need to rule out the 0° Rim locations because these will always be partile aspect to a luminary, so we can focus on the 15° Hub locations.

BTW, these locations are always semi-square or sesqui-square a luminary in a "cardinal" ingress. I'd be much more willing to consider that this luminary semi-square or sesqui-square is valid than to follow your Vargottama theory. Throughout SMA I periodically mentioned that 45° and 135° aspects simply hadn't been tested in the ingresses yet. A big impediment is that these rarely have both planets foreground; but in ingresses (unlike solunar returns), aspects are proven noteworthy 'supplemental' if only one planet is angular, so there might indeed be something there.

Anyway, to test your theory: The Capsolars since 1775 with Mars within 1° of 15°00' Hub are the Capsolars for 1795, 1815, 1894, 1973, and 2000.

Notice that the 1894 Capsolar had Mars 15°09' Scorpio opposite Pluto 15°49' Taurus, with Neptune not far off at 17°52' Taurus. That's the strongest aspect example. Somewhat wider, the 1973 Capsolar had Mars 15°52' Scorpio conjunct Neptune 12°17' Scorpio. In 2000, Mars at 14°09' Aquarius squared Pluto at 17°11' Scorpio. (That last one, in 2000, was angular in Washington.)

I encourage you to see if you can make a case for these years, especially 1894. It may be the start of digging in seriously to the octile question in these charts.

Since I have them handy, I might as well give you the Cansolars also: 1803, 1843, 1882, 1915, 1994, 2003, 2008. Of these, those where Mars had a close aspect are 1803 (Mars-Pluto), 1994 (wider: Mars between Venus and Saturn), and (wider) 2008 (Mars-Saturn). The 2008 is immediately recognizable as the crash less than two months later, and Saturn at 11°13' was square the Washington MC 10°34' Scorpio, so that's not a good example.

We can zero in more on whether this is an octile matter by looking at years that have Mars 45° or 135° from Moon in the Capsolar (2° orb). Since 1775, these are: 1784, 1802, 1837, 1851, 1909, 1918, 1919, 1926, 1935, 1959, 1968, 2002. (The 1918-1919 jumped right out at me.)

[Jim Eshelman]

For the Moon-Mars octiles, the first two years were strangely pronounced peace. For example, within days of the first Capsolar listed, the U.S. Congress ratified the Treaty of Paris that officially ended the war with Great Britain - the first time we'd been out of war since the nation began. It was then a year of getting things going for the country. The second one was a year of much forgiveness by Napoleon's regime etc.

But 1837... well, there's the Panic of 1838's beginning to consider with violent riots. The charts showed this in other ways, such as a Moon-Pluto conjunction, and the Capsolar had Jupiter on one angle and Saturn on another - but that partile Moon-Mars sesqui-square is still interesting.

1851 had the French Coup of 1851 - is this big enough for a world-scale Moon-Mars aspect? It did have some repercussions across Europe.

1909 doesn't seem to have more than the usual number of irritating and aggravating events - no single big thing I can see.

But then we come to the two consecutive years 1918-1919: With the fiercest fighting of World War I and, then, after the war, the deadly flu pandemic that lasted through those two years. That's interesting! (A few other ghastly things in the aftermath like the Jallianwala Bagh massacre.)

1926 has no obvious overt pattern. Coups are happening (like most years), but names starting to appear more in the news are Franco and Mussolini. Europe is heating up but not yet boiling. It does seem to be simmering hotter, though. (A couple of really big disasters, but these happen most years.)

1935 had a severe Capsolar for the U.S. - so we shouldn't take U.S. events too seriously looking for Moon-Mars. (It was a hard year in the U.S., between the worst hurricanes ever and deep Dust Bowl suffering. OTOH Social Security was created.) Worldwide, the biggest deal is probably Hitler announcing German rearmament in violation of the treaty ending WW I and beginning the draft, then stripping Jews of their German citizenship. Names like Hitler and Stalin are in the news, so the temperature is rising if not quite catching fire yet.

1959 (going from memory) was a calm year, though with the low-grade rumbling of the Cold War (including the space race heating up) and, in the U.S., civil rights issues coming to a head. The U.S. Capsolar was dormant, having only worldwide factors active. I don't think "The Day the Music Died" can be taken as a world-defining event. Castro anchored his control of Cuba, though all the real fighting was done under the prior Capsolar. I don't see anything worthy of the Moon-Mars aspect.

1968 was a volatile, violent, and deadly year, though. The U.S. Capsolar shows the cultural change and impact all by itself, without help, but adding a worldwide 1°13' Moon-Mars still completely fits. I don't need to itemize the month-by-month events, most of them violent, that marked that year beginning mere days after the Capsolar.

Which leaves 2002. The world was definitely moving newly into war. The 2002 Capsolar set up about four months after 9/11 with U.S. troops and an international military coalition already moved into Afghanistan. The war on Al-Qaeda escalated into full boil. Milosevic's trial in The Hague fed conflict and tensions further.


INITIAL CONCLUSION: These are strong enough and clear enough to encourage looking further at the legitimate importance of octiles in solar and lunar ingresses - under the terms already known to work. It's the first time I've done anything comprehensive enough to give more than a single-case favoring (and still not definitive, of course).

[SteveS]

Jim wrote:

Remembering that the Week chart often has a big part of the story, notice that the Arilunar has Venus partile square Saturn exactly angular plus a foreground Mars-Saturn conjunction.

Your point here is an excellent example/observation. For sure, if someone well versed with your SMA work was ever at that location and felt rumblings, then looked at this Arilunar weekly, the Mars-Saturn conjunction alone would allow a “knowing” to flee in a hurry.

BTW, these locations are always semi-square or sesqui-square a luminary in a "cardinal" ingress.

Jim, I have never thought about this---damn good observation!

I'd be much more willing to consider that this luminary semi-square or sesqui-square is valid than to follow your Vargottama theory. Throughout SMA I periodically mentioned that 45° and 135° aspects simply hadn't been tested in the ingresses yet. A big impediment is that these rarely have both planets foreground; but in ingresses (unlike solunar returns), aspects are proven noteworthy 'supplemental' if only one planet is angular, so there might indeed be something there.

Indeed, I understand.

INITIAL CONCLUSION: These are strong enough and clear enough to encourage looking further at the legitimate importance of octiles in solar and lunar ingresses - under the terms already known to work. It's the first time I've done anything comprehensive enough to give more than a single-case favoring (and still not definitive, of course).

I understand Jim, thanks for your thoughts on this matter, interesting. Your work would be highly valuable to an earth scientiest/quakes/volcanos with certain forecasting responsibilities, or if they were in the field working. And this is what I want to do at the conference---get your work out there with the earth scientiests if possible.

[SteveS]

Again, for the examples in this thread, I am using Jim’s guideline words from his book Interpreting Solar Returns (ISR):

It is when angularity and aspect partility coincide that outstanding incidents (OI) are most likely to come about.

Always remember the partile aspects can be eclipto or mundo according to Jim’s teachings from his SMA book.
I guess with Sidereal Mundane Astrology (SMA) an “outstanding incident” would be defined as relative to the location or region how it affected its people with an “outstanding incident”. So, a SMA “outstanding incident” does not necessarily have to confirm exactly to Jim’s above words, but for this thread I am trying to test if “outstanding incidents” confirming to Jim above quoted words is a SMA event that not only affects people in small regions/locations, but maybe a whole nation or maybe the World.
Next SMA “outstanding incident” is the 1871 Great Chicago Fire which mostly destroyed a major city in the USA, and also hundreds of people died from other regional fires close to Chicago’s longitude coordinates, but I will use Chicago as ground zero for the SMA charts.

The Great Chicago Fire was a conflagration that burned in the American city of Chicago during October 8–10, 1871. The fire killed approximately 300 people, destroyed roughly 3.3 square miles (9 km2) of the city including over 17,000 structures, and left more than 100,000 residents homeless.

The SMA charts are truly outstanding!

[SteveS]

Chicago’s 1871 Capsolar (The Master Chart of the Year):

https://ibb.co/h85WkqC

Obviously the glaring angular partile aspect we see is a rising Saturn partile 90 Mars

Ebertin COSI:

Principle: Harmful or destructive energy. Inhibited or destroyed vitality.

With this very malefic Capsolar, a Siderealist is forewarned with high % there will be an “outstanding destructive incident” for the USA. It’s like the Mercury-Venus conjunction square the MC has no voice, and if so, I haven’t a clue how to delineate it for this Capsolar---it probably would have miss-led the Siderealists. But the Cansolar speaks volumes with much more clearer malefic tones. Too be continued

[Jim Eshelman]

It’s like the Mercury-Venus conjunction square the MC has no voice, and if so, I haven’t a clue how to delineate it for this Capsolar---it probably would have miss-led the Siderealists. But the Cansolar speaks volumes with much more clearer malefic tones.

In SMA, my remark on this was that the sweetness-and-goodness Mercury-Venus, as the closest planets to angles, reminds us that a given year has more than one thing happen. We can't expect the Capsolar to narrow itself to only a single thing. Lots of other things occur.

The Quarter chart (Cansolar) was much less ambiguous: It covered a narrower part of the year, though the Capsolar set it up.

PS - I have a side explanation for the Mercury-Venus that I haven't used because it sounds like making excuses. I have other event examples where something destructive occurred that specifically effects items of beautiful design, whether art or architecture. My published interpretation for Mercury-Venus in mundane astrology includes the phrase, "It may excite an appreciation of form and artistic design."

Having recently toured Chicago's architectural history, and in particular having seen some of the few major buildings that survived the fire (and then saw what happened in the rebuilding), I think this was a major factor: Creations of great beauty had been lost and the city committed almost at once to rebuild it better. I dislike this explanation for two reasons, though. One is that it sounds like making excuses after the fact. The other is that Mercury-Venus was stronger than Mars-Saturn and would have been expected to have the stronger effect. This isn't what we see, though.

[Jim Eshelman]

BTW - going back to our discussion of octiles yesterday - this is even worse if we figure octiles exist: Mercury octiles Jupiter 0°01'

The one strong tip to the negative is that Mars-Saturn, though not the closest angularity, IS the closest aspect of angular planets. This is what I see most often in the ingresses.

However, the octiles also tie the two groups of planets (Mars-Saturn and Mercury-Uranus) together. I don't like the balance of the orbs, but the mix is more interesting. I give the angularities here - then the aspects which were between two angular planets - then other aspects which only involve ONE angular planet (these have been found weakly, supportively significant in ingresses). Draw your own conclusions:

Mercury on EP 0°16'
Venus on EP 0°51'
Saturn on Asc 3°29'
Mars on Zenith 2°37'

Mars-Saturn sq 0°
Mercury-Venus co 1°07'
Mercury-Mars oc 1°46'

Mercury-Jupiter oc 0°01'
Mars-Uranus oc 0°46' M
Venus-Jupiter oc 1°05'
Saturn-Pluto oc 1°25'
Mercury-Uranus op 2°32'

[SteveS]

I understand where you are coming from Jim, thanks for these feedback. Jim, your book SMA is so great and thought provoking for me! It makes it clear SMA charts are at times manifesting great events on the Planet and for certain specific arears. I am trying to figure out maybe another guideline that may be of use for us with SMA maybe allowing better forewarning techniques for us for a specific area in the USA, but I think you have covered all of these principles in your book. I am just trying to isolate in a more concise manner with a couple of sentences which may serve the layperson in more simple ways.

It’s easy to see with 20-20 hindsight SMA is displaying great natural laws with the Cardinal Ingresses, but we are left with WHERE they will manifest beforehand. For example: With DC’s 1871 Capsolar the partile Mars-Saturn 90 is not angular. This means that it is not foretelling a possible destruction principle. It’s not until we analyze DC’s 1871 Cansolar are we tipped-off that there is high % the USA will experience some malefic Moon-Saturn-Neptune incident for DC's Cansolar's quarter.

DC’s 1871 Mundo Cansolar:
https://ibb.co/yQKTbcF

We immediately see with this DC Mundo Cansolar an “outstanding incident” angular partile Moon-Saturn 180 on DC’s Horizon squaring Neptune on the IC. We have been forewarned that there is high % a very malefic Moon-Saturn-Neptune principle will manifest sometime/somewhere in DC’s Cansolar quarter, but where in the USA? Correct me if I am wrong, but when we take DC’s eclipto Cansolar and go to Solar Maps looking for clues WHERE in the USA is under the most danger for the quarter of this DC Cansolar, we see the Cansolar Mars line going over Chicago, maybe a red flag for Chicago? In order for others to see this I will relocate DC’s 1871 Cansolar to Chicago here:

https://ibb.co/RHnSbJM

We can now clearly see that Chicago has its Cansolar Mars partile conjunct it’s MC! If we took this as a possible red flag, and then calculated Chicago’s 1871 Capsolar, we now see an angular rising partile Saturn partile 90 Mars for Chicago, foreseeing a possible Mars-Saturn “outstanding incident” destructive principle for Chicago’s Master Chart of the Year, its Capsolar. And then we see DC’s malefic Cansolar Mars line going through Chicago and the city was destroyed by fire. When a Siderealists ponders these 1871 SMA charts there is only one word which describes this to our minds---AWE for these 1871 SMA charts working as you wrote in your SMA book, but still we are working with 20-20 hindsight in order for this sense of AWE to grab our attention.

Jim I have a glaring question in my mind: Is it fair to say for any DC Capsolar, when we see a partile Mars 0,90,180 aspect with either Saturn, Uranus, Neptune or Pluto, even if not angular; and, then see a very malefic angular constructed DC quarter chart following a non-angular partile Mars aspected DC Capsolar, we immediately should start isolating the danger zones in USA with any possible SMA malefic Quarter Chart where the above partile Mars aspects fall angular in the cities Capsolar (their master charts of their year)? Thanks Jim.

[Jim Eshelman]

It’s easy to see with 20-20 hindsight SMA is displaying great natural laws with the Cardinal Ingresses, but we are left with WHERE they will manifest beforehand. For example: With DC’s 1871 Capsolar the partile Mars-Saturn 90 is not angular. This means that it is not foretelling a possible destruction principle. It’s not until we analyze DC’s 1871 Cansolar are we tipped-off that there is high % the USA will experience some malefic Moon-Saturn-Neptune incident for DC's Cansolar's quarter.

I think there are two things here: First, there IS a way to see where these are most likely to manifest, using astromaps of the ingresses. For this, the Capsolar did well in the sense that the Saturn rising and Mars square Ascendant lines strike through northern Wisconsin and it was the Peshtigo fire - not the Chicago fire - that was the biggest event. As loud and splashy as the Chicago fire is in history, it was a minor incident compared to the Peshtigo fire straight north, the deadliest fire in U.S. history (burning over a million acres and killing at least 1,500 people - maybe 2,500). The technique is: Find the malefic line on the map and allow 150-180 miles either side of the line to estimate the 3° orb.

The other point is that the Capsolar, alone, doesn't catch every important event. It looks like you're trying to get the Capsolar to show everything important in the year, and it simply doesn't. It is so reliable (especially in describing the tone of a nation's capital for an entire year) that it's easy to forget that no single chart shows everything important.

Here are some data points from Chapter 33 of the current edition of SMA. For now, I'm ignoring the fine points of what happens when the Capsolar is dormant (since that's not the case with your example):

• The Capsolar, by itself, had a +1 score or higher 90% of the time. (That's good! Really good IMHO. But it's not 100%.)
• The Quarter solar ingress, by itself, had a +1 score or higher 89% of the time.
• Only the Capsolar remains strong for the entire year. Quarter charts are comparably strong in their own quarters. (This statement ignores dormancy considerations.)

Here's the really interesting thing that I think puts this in perspective: Of 501 events catalogued, BOTH the Capsolar and Quarter chart were dormant 59 times. That leaves 442 events to study. Of these 442 events, EITHER the Capsolar or the Quarter chart correctly showed the event all but four times. That's a 99.1% accuracy rate!

ONE OR THE OTHER showed it over 99% of the time. But they only BOTH showed the event 236 times (53%). On the other hand, individually the Capsolar and the Quarter charts are each accurate 89-90% of the time.

The important conclusion to draw from this is that it only takes one solar ingress - EITHER the Year chart or the Quarter chart - to show the event, and with only one of them the big events have been shown historically 99.1% of the time.

So - to summarize - I think the first response in your question is that you are looking at the wrong event: The Chicago fire was a sideshow, and the Peshtigo fire the main show - and the Peshtigo area was exactly identified in the Capsolar. The second response is that you can't rely on the Capsolar for everything (even though you can rely on it about 90% of the time). The Quarter chart is more or less equally important and has to be considered in the mix.

And then there is the third answer, the one you won't want to hear: Sometimes an event shows best ONLY for Washington and barely shows for the event locale at all. A big Arizona fire a few years back was predicted from the DC charts, even though there was no clue where it would be. (Charts also showed for Arizona.) The Sandy Hook shooting was almost ENTIRELY a Washington event - a national event, not a local event - according to the charts, even though the same charts showed deep suffering and heartbreak at Sandy Hook for many months later in the year (which I think shows the emotions finally catching up with everybody and not letting go). This doesn't happen much, but it does happen now and again.

We immediately see with this DC Mundo Cansolar an “outstanding incident” angular partile Moon-Saturn 180 on DC’s Horizon squaring Neptune on the IC. We have been forewarned that there is high % a very malefic Moon-Saturn-Neptune principle will manifest sometime/somewhere in DC’s Cansolar quarter, but where in the USA? Correct me if I am wrong, but when we take DC’s eclipto Cansolar and go to Solar Maps looking for clues WHERE in the USA is under the most danger for the quarter of this DC Cansolar, we see the Cansolar Mars line going over Chicago, maybe a red flag for Chicago?

Yes - or, more exactly, the Chicago-Peshtigo line. (Really, if you look at both the Capsolar and Cansolar maps for the Peshtigo event, you'll be thrilled. Chicago is also shown [in the Cansolar], but Peshtigo is rightly picked by BOTH charts and their intersections.


BTW, with your events in the last half of the post, this is exactly the problem I've been mentioning for years. Despite all of today's computer resources, our computer resources are limited. We have to literally SET UP THE CHARTS for each individual location - the whole army of solar and lunar ingresses for EVERY location. The only way I see that we could catch things is if we had an army of astrologers (several in each state) that are tasked to keep an eye on their own location and report back what they find.

I do know what the program we need would look like. Nobody is going to build it in the near future, but I know what it would look like: As a MINIMUM, it would have astromapping that would let us overlap multiple charts. - At this point, we can't even get major angle crossings and squares to the angles on the same chart, can't get EP/WP at all, and certainly can't overlap multiple charts. Imagine, though, that you could overlap the Capsolar and Cansolar lines on one map (including ALL angles): It would precisely define Peshtigo, Wisconsin and, less precisely, Chicago.

A better program have colored bands fading out 3° either side of the planet lines so that we could see regions gradually isolated as we added one chart on top of another. A third feature would be colored zones where Moon's mundane aspects existed (which are geographically bounded).

With this, we could truly zero in on the most afflicted areas with a whole series of Year, Quarter, Month, Week, and even Day charts. Without this.. without at least being able to overlay multiple charts on the same astromaps (say, showing only the Mars and Saturn lines and seeing where they accumulate as new layers are added), we are at a great disadvantage.

Jim I have a glaring question in my mind: Is it fair to say for any DC Capsolar, when we see a partile Mars 0,90,180 aspect with either Saturn, Uranus, Neptune or Pluto, even if not angular; and, then see a very malefic angular constructed DC quarter chart following a non-angular partile Mars aspected DC Capsolar, we immediately should start isolating the danger zones in USA with any possible SMA malefic Quarter Chart where the above partile Mars aspects fall angular in the cities Capsolar (their master charts of their year)?

Maybe. Probably with a high percentage of the time. We've done this in a limited way, but not systematically or always reliably.

It's hard to track because we don't get news from everywhere. I could predict that X would happen a bit west of Denver and, unless someone monitors the Denver area news for a month, we might never know about it. The event might be really important to the people there, but not outside that area, for example.

A gap in the SMA research is that I haven't studied EVERY SINGLE LOCAL EVENT for Washington, DC. We don't have a list of things that appeared for Washington AND locally. That would be another year of work and I'm sure that I personally won't have time for at least three years (since The Big Book gets all my available time until it's done). My best answer so far is that to know what is going to happen at a particular place, somebody has to sit down and study that particular place and keep an eye on it. (I don't even do that for my own city.)

BTW, in your question you presume that the same planet would show in both places. That's not likely the case. When a national-interest big event occurs somewhere outside of Washington, the event means one thing where it occurs, while in Washington the main concern is how to deal with that event (somewhere else). Things like the Chicago fire and Sn Francisco earthquake show in Washington as negative economy and market impact, but events like the Exxon Valdez incident or Columbine shootings show up in DC mostly as "we have to go into crisis mode." The most reliable marker in a DC chart for a crisis somewhere else is Pluto on the angles: You'll see in my published interpretations that this often means having to deal with something somewhere else. In DC, they are more interested in economic impact, political impact, mobilizing recovery efforts - a very different tone than exists at the actual location.

I tried to break down your question in the last paragraph and I don't understand the exact situation you are asking about. I couldn't beak it out into exact criteria that would allow me to calculate an answer for you.

If you want to study events for the U.S. that were local disasters or likely national impact - and compare Washington and local charts - here is a list of those I would recommend that are catalogued in the latest SMA version:

• Earthquakes (Ch 10): San Francisco, Northridge
• Hurricanes (Ch 13): Unfortunately, these are mostly East Coast so the charts for DC would be similar. Any of them could be studied, though, since the latitude of Florida is quite a bit different. But off the East Coast band and of enormous national impact are Galveston, the 1916 Texas Hurricane, and Katrina in particular.
• Floods (Ch 14): Most of them that occurred in the U.S.
• Tornadoes (Ch 15): These were always hard to study because they spread over such large areas. It might be interesting to re-examine all the U.S. ones for Washington to see if the national charts showed them better than or equal to the local charts.
• Fires (Ch 16): Draw your own conclusions on what was of national importance or big enough, but a few that seem obvious to me are the Conway Theater, Hartford Circus, Great Chicago Fire, Great Spokane Fire, Triangle Shirtwaist Factory, Ohio State Penitentiary, Peshtigo Fire, Great Fire of 1910, Yarnell Hills (that showed in DC I know).
• Bombs (Ch 17): 10th Street Baptist Church, Oklahoma City, Austin serial bombs.
• Explosions (Ch 19): Texas City disaster, South Amboy explosions, New London school explosion, Three Mile Island, and others.
• Deaths of Leaders (Ch 21): These are mostly DC-linked, but you can also check from this chapter the Martin Luther King Jr., Robert Kennedy, George Moscone and Harvey Milk.
• Uprisings (Ch 24): Ludlow massacre, Selma "Bloody Sunday" march, Watts riots, Stonewall riots, Wounded Knee occupation, CSA siege, 1992 LA riots, Waco Siege.
• Mass Murders (Ch 25): Many of these have had profound national impact, which you can sort out as well as I. Several obvious ones.

[SteveS]

Jim wrote:

Here's the really interesting thing that I think puts this in perspective: Of 501 events catalogued, BOTH the Capsolar and Quarter chart were dormant 59 times. That leaves 442 events to study. Of these 442 events, EITHER the Capsolar or the Quarter chart correctly showed the event all but four times. That's a 99.1% accuracy rate!

Very . This really helps me if I ever have the opportunity to sit down with a group of non-astrologers/earth scientist trying to explain SMA things in short order, without dumping into their laps your SMA book and say: here is the most important work ever written on mundane event astrology. Jim, I think you understand where I am coming from? Your book would probably not be understood for the proper details by non-astrologers. I need to figure out a concise summary of presenting SMA “outstanding incidents” principles to them, and then say for more precise details---study your SMA book.
Jim wrote:

The important conclusion to draw from this is that it only takes one solar ingress - EITHER the Year chart or the Quarter chart - to show the event, and with only one of them the big events have been shown historically 99.1% of the time.

Excellent Jim---this defintely will be my lead quoted statement by you to anyone I come into contact with who is interested in your SMA work.
Jim wrote:

Yes - or, more exactly, the Chicago-Peshtigo line. (Really, if you look at both the Capsolar and Cansolar maps for the Peshtigo event, you'll be thrilled. Chicago is also shown [in the Cansolar], but Peshtigo is rightly picked by BOTH charts and their intersections.

I have got to go to Solar Maps on my other office computer and make sure I clearly see these lines, where I will be able to show a potential layperson/group these Ingress planetary lines. Then I have got to get Solarfire 9 onto my laptop for traveling convenience. I need to contact astrolabe for a couple of questions but no big deal.
Jim wrote:

BTW, with your events in the last half of the post, this is exactly the problem I've been mentioning for years. Despite all of today's computer resources, our computer resources are limited. We have to literally SET UP THE CHARTS for each individual location - the whole army of solar and lunar ingresses for EVERY location. The only way I see that we could catch things is if we had an army of astrologers (several in each state) that are tasked to keep an eye on their own location and report back what they find.

I understand Jim and is why I am trying to figure out a way for an interested non-astrology layperson to see the purity of SMA natural laws at work. The only thing I can come-up with is to take the super “outstanding incidents” with their individual angular partile aspects and begin with the Solar Ingresses involved with those super national events. May be impossible but I am going to try and test only on the ones I know who have basic knowledge of celestial astronomical principles realizing they still are not astrologers.

It would precisely define Peshtigo, Wisconsin and, less precisely, Chicago.

There is one person I know who holds the right audience but probably is too busy to take the time and sit down with me to show him the SMA possibilities for super “outstanding incident” Solar Ingress charts, and it just so happens one of his favorite things to talk about is the Peshtigo fire. This alone should be able to get my foot into his house door one day. He lives in Atlanta where my Natal Jupiter line crosses. He would really appreciate the knowledges SMA contains, and he is well connected. I am trying to figure out a way to speak to him directly. I came into contact with a person with my OI Nov SLR who put me onto the excellent work of this man in Atlanta who is super knowledgeable in earth sciences with working knowledge of astronomical celestial points of force . Now I am trying how to figure out how to contact him before the June Conference, if not, at least hold his attention for a few minutes at the conference to arrange at least a future lunch meeting in Atlanta.

…we are at a great disadvantage.

Indeed we are Jim, but at least I have the luxury of time to do my best to introduce your SMA work to certain people who may be interested.
Jim wrote:

Maybe. Probably with a high percentage of the time. We've done this in a limited way, but not systematically or always reliably.

Understood.
Jim wrote:

It's hard to track because we don't get news from everywhere. I could predict that X would happen a bit west of Denver and, unless someone monitors the Denver area news for a month, we might never know about it. The event might be really important to the people there, but not outside that area, for example.

Yes, I understand Jim. IMO, we need to try and figure out how do a written simple brief guideline which with high % predicts ONLY the super “outstanding incidents,” I feel they should be a practical way but I am always way too optimistic when it comes to brainstorming things like this…
For now, I think we should only concentrate on the malefic quarter charts with the chart history we have in your book, which only leads us back to a partile Mars aspect in either the Capsolar or Cansolar with either Saturn, Neptune, or Pluto, in order to see if this screens the super “outstanding incidents” in the entire history of your chart examples from your book. But it must be understood that the Capsolar/Cansolar partile malefic Mars aspects do not need to be angular, but then would have to become angular where the event took place. I know this is confusing to see/understand---but:
Let’s continue to work our way through the entirety of this thread and see where it leads us for the best possible ways for me to attempt to do my thing with the possible Atlanta contact. Thanks Jim for your feedback---I always learn new things.

[Jim Eshelman]

I need to figure out a concise summary of presenting SMA “outstanding incidents” principles to them, and then say for more precise details---study your SMA book.

Current plan: Volume III of The Big Book will be on mundane astrology. In most respects it will be a reduced version of SMA (two or three primo examples of each category, rather than the exhaustive catalogue). It will rely, though, on all the fundamentals gone through exhaustively in Vol. I and the sensibility about return charts developed in Vol. II (each of the three volumes isn't intended to be self-contained but, rather, cumulatively interactive), so it won't be quite what you want; but it will be a tighter presentation.

[SteveS]

We will eventually figure this out Jim.

[Jim Eshelman]

See if these help. I'll remove them later. Each one is labelled what it is.

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[SteveS]

Indeed Jim, these will help me! Are there simple SF instructions you can offer which I can duplicate with my computer for possible future use, thanks. I have little experience using Solar Maps.

[Jim Eshelman]

Indeed Jim, these will help me! Are there simple SF instructions you can offer which I can duplicate with my computer for possible future use, thanks. I have little experience using Solar Maps.

I gave you the settings the other day for the two kinds of maps (major angles mundanely and squares to angles ecliptically). You know how to pull up the map. You can click on an area to zoom in such as clicking on Wisconsin, or hover the mouse and see a square that includes Wisconsin and Chicago. The rest was just a Windows screen shot to get the image files.

[SteveS]

Jim wrote:

The rest was just a Windows screen shot to get the image files.

Yes, I have defaulted my settings to your settings and know how to navigate the different maps of the world. But, I have never copied a pic of a Solarfire Map to post on a forum or to email another person. I sure it’s a simple procedure but still not sure how you do it. I would like to test this procedure on your forum for my first practice post. Thanks Jim

[Jim Eshelman]

Jim wrote:

The rest was just a Windows screen shot to get the image files.

Yes, I have defaulted my settings to your settings and know how to navigate the different maps of the world. But, I have never copied a pic of a Solarfire Map to post on a forum or to email another person. I sure it’s a simple procedure but still not sure how you do it. I would like to test this procedure on your forum for my first practice post.

There are several ways to do this, but from Windows 10 (maybe WIn7) later, I think the easiest is the following: Simultaneously hold don the Shift and Windows and press S (Shift+Win+S). Your screen will darken slightly. You can then drag the mouse across the area you want to save as an image (drag from its upper left corner etc. you'll see how it works when you dry). This copies your selected area to the clipboard.

With Windows 11 (and Windows 10 if you have it set up that way), a second program will open with the image giving you several options including saving the file. If that's not available on your computer, you can paste the clipboard image into whatever graphic editing program you use (if nothing else, Windows Paint) and save it as a file. Once saved, you can of course edit it for size and other details.

If all of this doesn't immediately work smoothly on pre-Win11 computers, there is another tool called the Snipping Tool that you can launch from Start Menu (just press the Windows key and start typing snip until it comes up). Once you launch it, you can pin it too the Windows taskbar so it's always available.

[SteveS]

Thanks Jim, much appreciated.

[SteveS]

Here is the eclipto DC 1929 Capsolar:

https://ibb.co/tc0zdkX

Note Saturn partile 90 MC indicating a Saturn year for USA.

But now note DC’s Mundoscope for 1929 Capsolar showing a partile Mars 180 Saturn.:
DCs 1929 Capsolar Mundo scope:

https://ibb.co/5rwdKwL

Jim’s SMA book clearly teaches we must also note mundo aspects, not just the eclipto aspects! This again brings in Jim’s important 1970s teachings:

It is when angularity and aspect partility coincide that outstanding incidents (OI) are most likely to come about.

So, what we have here with DCs 1929 Capsolar is an angular partile Mars 180 Saturn. So, what happened in 1929? We had the most destructive financial "outstanding incident" ever to manifest in the entire history of the USA with the complete collapse of the Stock Market. This was an event so important it created year’s long Worldwide Depression, millions of people suffered greatly. There are other excellent SMA charts for 1929, but this thread is concentrating on the 4 Solar Ingresses, particularly the Capsolars since it is the Master Chart of the year. But, any Quarter Solar Ingress should never be overlooked for Jim’s quoted words above. Also, a study of events in the World with SMA’s Solar Ingress Charts clearly shows when we see angular Mars-Saturn configurations, particularly its partile 0 90 180 aspects, this is a huge red flag for very destructive events.

[SteveS]

For 1816, the year where many regions on Earth did not have a Summer growing season for their food supply of crops, and taking Jim’s observation about the Cansolar of 1816, we see for the capital city of England, London’s Mundo 1816 Cansolar: a partile angular Mars 180 Saturn.

London’s mundo 1816 Cansolar:

https://ibb.co/nc8vbjQ

Angular partile 0 90 180 Mars aspects with the malefics either eclipto or mundo are significant red flags when appearing in any capitol on the planet, with Mars-Saturn aspects leading the pack for the principle of some type of severe “destruction”. Also from Jim’s teachings the same malefic aspects with the Moon. The 1816 Cansolar featured a partile Moon-Pluto conjunction which would have applied for the World, and much of the World experienced “stunning/shocking” pain with scarcity of food and very high food prices.

IMO, Jim’s written teachings for Sidereal Mundane Astrology, understood with its proper astronomical constructs could benefit humanity as a helpful Science. Yet, Sidereal Mundane Astrology knowledges will probably become lost again, only seen/understood by few Sidereal Astrologers. Science already knows the potential for certain powerful Volcanos like Mount Tambora’s eruption in 1815 which drastically changed world temperatures on the Planet a year later in 1816 with terrible destructive crop growing effects. All Earth Scientists should be taught by departmental heads of educational institutions Sidereal Mundane Astrology, yet mainstream orthodox academia with its peer pressures has nothing to do with anything astrological.

[SteveS]

Sidereal Mundane Astrology (SMA) is truly the best foresight tool ever constructed in the field of mundane astrology. We have Jim to thank for writing his brilliant book for its Principles and many example charts. It’s a book to seriously study and contemplate to be armed with foreknowledge in the mundane World, and it is free on Jim’s forum here. AFAIC, its principles and use should be passed down to family members from generation to generation. I hope to soon write a few simple guidelines for possible forewarning measures for possible nasty important world malefic incidents; which, I will hand down to my Nephew with Jim’s SMA book along with my main computer and its astrological program. A set of detailed instructions will be written for my Nephew for using my astrological program. Don’t become alarmed---I have looked into the next 10 years and I see no terrible malefic Solar Ingress charts for DC. I hope to look ahead for the next 100-200 years with DCs Solar Ingresses before I am finished with my life.

My main guideline I use from Jim’s teachings for any type return chart is when angularity and partile 0 90 180 Mars aspects appear with the malefics for possible “outstanding incidents” to come about (manifest). However, I have another simple guideline I use for myself with Solar Ingress charts without the aspect being angular-- particularly with the Master Chart of the year—the Capsolar. This takes me about 3 minutes to check. And that is to first look for any possible partile 0, 90 180 aspect (mundo or eclipto) in any Solar Ingress with Mars, particularly with Saturn; and, then with the rest of the malefics. Don’t get me wrong, I am not saying this is the best guideline to use, only a good kick-start to possibly be forewarned of the stunning world attention that grabs the entire World's news headlines with very nasty malefic incidents. I have seen very malefic cases in the World where a partile 0 90 180 aspect of Mars with other malefics, without it being angular, can still become very important manifesting nasty malefic events. I will give examples later.

[SteveS]

“Timing is Everything.” Humanity lives in a solar system filled with a matrix of TIME not realizing there are natural astronomical laws with the planetary system which can TIME malefic manifestations destroying innocent lives at certain locations, “being at the wrong place at the wrong time.” Sidereal Mundane Astrology (SMA) with the study/understanding of Jim’s SMA book could become a great foreknowledge tool for the future and possible protection for humanity. I see little hope the world’s controlling higher institutions will ever allow SMA to be taught to the masses, its the "blind leading the blind." This only leaves individuals to learn SMA and pass its timing knowledges down through the generations with their families, the ancients understood this as the only way to protect certain knowledges. But, with the advent of the Internet, orthodox learning institutions can now be by-passed by the individuals seeking higher timing knowledges to be seen/understood.

Let’s take another SMA historical example: The TIME frame is 1945 with World War 11 raging and natural astronomical laws just happened to occurred to destroy Dresden, Germany, at that time the capital of Germany. Many innocent lives were lost, but that is the nature of World Wars.

Any Sidereal Mundane Astrologer with the proper learnings of Jim’s SMA book would have immediately recognized with the World’s 1945 Capsolar, the Master Chart of the Year, there was a partile Mars 180 Saturn partile 90 Neptune. Jim’s book plainly teaches this planetary combo is a serious malefic/dangerous “Black Hat.” But, a Sidereal Astrologer versed in Jim’s SMA book living in Dresden, Germany would have seen this Jan 14 1945 Capsolar Chart (next link) and been forewarned of higher possbilities for impending danger, particularily with a World War raging with many Strategic military targets in Dresden:

https://ibb.co/sRg76Wb

Note again the partile T-Square of Mars 180 Saturn, partile 90 Neptune. But, this important dangerous Capsolar planetary combo is not angular with Dresden’s Jan 14 1945 Capsolar, but when the Sidereal Mundane Astrologer started progressing Dresden’s 1945 Capsolar with DAILY quotidian charts taught in Jim’s SMA book as a very important chart, they would have seriously noted this CapQ Feb 15 DAILY Chart:

https://ibb.co/z5PyQ8t

Note how Dresden’s Jan 14 1945 Capsolar had progressed bringing the partile Mars 180 Saturn to Dresden’s CapQ HORIZON, partile 90 Neptune on Dresden’s Nadir on Feb 15 1945. This Feb 15 progressed CapQ fulfills Jim’s 1970’s teachings where he states:

Partile aspects reign supreme (1 degree or less). It is when partile aspects and angularity occur outstanding incidents most likely come about.

The Sidereal Mundane Astrologer would have been forewarned living in Dresden in 1945 with timing laws taught in Jim's free SMA book on this forum. My simple first quideline is to compute all four Solar Ingresses for a calendar year looking for malefic "Black Hats" partile planetary combos, paying closer attention to the Capsolar, the Master Chart of the Year for any capital in the World. Also, 1945 was when the first nuclear bombs dropped on Japan cities, again showing the terrible destructive forces of a Mars-Saturn-Neptune Combo!

Now if you choose, you can read the following Wikipedia link to see what occurred in Dresden on Feb 15, 1945, it was a nightmare.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_o ... rld_War_II

[SteveS]

World War II
Sep 1, 1939 – Sep 2, 1945
World War II or the Second World War, often abbreviated as WWII or WW2, was a global conflict that lasted from 1939 to 1945. The vast majority of the world's countries, including all of the great powers, fought as part of two opposing military alliances: the Allies and the Axis.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II

London’s 1939 Cansolar (link below). It is stunning when considereing the fast motion of this Cansolar's Moon! No matter the location in Europe this 1939 Cansolar featured a partile conjunction of Moon-Pluto which was partile 90 Saturn and partile 180 Mars! Mars was partile 90 Saturn Jim’s # 1 SMA aspect responsible for severe destruction of all kinds. Partile aspects involving a Solar Ingress Moon does not have to be angular, the Moon with its partile aspects can appear anywhere in the Ingress Wheel for potent effects, just as if the Moon acted as angle itself with its pronounced effects. World War 11 broke out on Sept 1 and raged till Sept 1945 (6 years). 75-80 million people died (mostly civilians). If there was ever a # 1 rated SMA chart which epitomizes Jim’s 1970’s teachings it has to be this 1939 Cansolar where Jim states:

Partile aspects reign supreme. It is when angularity and aspect partility coincide that outstanding incidents are most likely to come about.

Obviously this partile aspected 1939 Cansolar timed severe destructive/destroying effects as a World War which lasted 6 years. Indeed, this War was a very important “outstanding incident” in the context of the last few hundred years in History.

London’s 1939 Cansolar:
https://ibb.co/f9W7sLS

Sidereal Mundane Astrology (SMA) as taught by Jim’s free book is the most mind-blowing book I have ever read in my life, and I have read hundreds of books. SMA is a Science! It conveys the future of things to the mind when “outstanding incidents” are indicated. SMA when seriously studied forewarns minds of “outstanding” things which has the possibility of being most important depending on one’s circumstances in life!

[SteveS]

I suspect Jim’s words used in this thread: “Partile aspects reign supreme. It is when angularity and aspect partility coincide that outstanding incidents are most likely to come about;” although, are not part of his Sidereal Mundane Astrology book, but IMO when present in a Solar Ingress Chart could foretell with more probability pertaining to manifestations for the World as a whole, rather than just about incidents in isolated localities with only angularity. Also, it could foretell things which will have lasting effects for years with rare "outstanding incident" charts. The last “outstanding incident” chart posted in this thread-- the 1939 Cansolar for London definitely foretold the timing for the beginning of World War 11, and I can’t recall seeing a more afflicted/malefic constructed Solar Ingress chart full of partile aspects with its Moon. And, I can’t recall a more tragic event in modern history than WW11 lasting 6 years killing 75-85 million people, mostly civilians. The World’s 1945 Capsolar with its partile Mars-Saturn-Neptune T-square should be included as a very malefic theme/story for WW 11, finally culminating its tragic end.

[SteveS]

Jim, do you agree, partile 0 90 180 Solar Ingress Moon aspects with the malefics have more probability for forecasting worldwide malefic “outstanding incidents” with their worldwide effects possibly lasting years? For example: Looking at the 1939 Cansolar for all the World Powers involved in WW11, we see the same 0 90 180 partile aspects with 1939 Cansolar Moon with Mars, Saturn, & Pluto. Britain and France declared war on Germany I think Sept 3 1939 declaring the official beginning of this War, but actually no large scale Mars, Saturn, & Pluto destruction began until Sept 1940-Sept 1941 with Germany’s Blitz bombing on London. And then the War escalated to the rest of the World Powers involved in this war till its end in 1945. It appears to me the 1939 Cansolar was unique with its partile asects of Moon with Mars, Saturn, & Pluto malefic effects lasting years. Your take on this example? Thanks

[Jim Eshelman]

Jim, do you agree, partile 0 90 180 Solar Ingress Moon aspects with the malefics have more probability for forecasting worldwide malefic “outstanding incidents” with their worldwide effects possibly lasting years?

I agree in theory. However, I can't prove it in practice.

It may be true (and we just don't have enough data to show it yet) or it might be a bit of "partile chauvinism" on my part and not really true.

There's a clear threshold around 3° or so. Squares beyond 3°and conjunctions and oppositions beyond 3-4° aren't effective. But within that Class 1 boundary? I'm not sure that in practice I can distinguish them.

You said solar ingresses, but let's switch to lunar ingresses for a moment. Pluto was within 3° of 0° Capricorn uninterruptedly from November 11, 2019 to February 13, 2023. Look at those dates! The first known case of Covid-19 was in the last half of November 2019! And the last week of January 2023 is when President Biden said the U.S. was ending it's Covid emergency conditions (essentially, that the U.S. considered the acute Covid-19 crisis over) - even though it would administratively need until May to shut the programs down.

It was the 3° orb that marked the Covid era during which every lunar ingress, every single week, had a Moon-Pluto aspect with the world fixated like the proverbial deer in the headlights.

How about the Moon-Pluto partile phase in those lunars? Well, there were mundane aspects for different locations weaving and out, but Pluto was within 1° of 0° Capricorn - partile ecliptical aspect to Moon every single week - on-and-off from February 2020 (a significant month!) to January 2022 (maybe more people felt less intense about it? - But then Russia immediately invaded Ukraine!). The longest uninterrupted periods probably did catch the deadliest of the Covid era (since Year 2 was actually worse than Year 1 in terms of cases and deaths), though not the time people collectively felt most impacted. The uninterrupted times Pluto was within 1° of 0° Rim were the two months Dec 26, 2020 to Feb 28, 2021, and then June 27, 2021 to January 4, 2022.

I don't think the partile periods are dramatically worse than the 3° orb periods. In fact, in the popular mind, the Class 1 orb period (3°) really defined the Covid era.

[Jim Eshelman]

Jim, do you agree, partile 0 90 180 Solar Ingress Moon aspects with the malefics have more probability for forecasting worldwide malefic “outstanding incidents” with their worldwide effects possibly lasting years?

What I find with angularity is that no, partile wasn't at all necessary for gigantic events. However, there was a tendency for 70-80% of the big-deal events to have appropriate partile angle contacts. Furthermore, when there were conflicting planets (Jupiter and Saturn both closely angular, or Venus and Mars both closely angular), if only one of them was partile it was the right one!

One of the biggest problems not solved in both personal and mundane astrology is the issue of how to tell the BIG events from the small ones. We know that charts for the really big events look (overall) superbly descriptive, but also charts for small events look superbly descriptive. There isn't a lot of difference between the charts for a fire in an office building that kills nobody and the detonation of a bomb in that office building that kills hundreds.

I have experimented in my monthly forecasts with using orbs as gauges for how big the event will be - taking identical planet groups but interpreting it like a "big serious" event if the orbs are partile and a "this is likely to pass quickly or not be all that bad" event if they are a couple of degrees wider. I think overall that has been successful, but not at a level worth throwing a party about it.

Why don't all the big events occur at partile and all the small events at platic? I think there are two contributors. The first, of course, is that people make choices that come out slightly better and slightly worse, and we're only playing the odds. But also - the other reason - is that we have a lot of charts operating simultaneously.

Mundane forecasting isn't "top down." It isn't based on having to appear in a solar ingress and then narrowing it with lunar ingresses and then narrowing it down to the day. ONE SINGLE WEEKLY LUNAR INGRESS can be the basis of a gigantic event - though, in that case, I think it always has a quotidian or transit that triggers the day. (Collaboration of weekly lunar ingresses and a daily timer catches nearly all the events by themselves.) Ingresses overlap and reinforce. ONE strong chart is sufficient, and the others in the stack tend to reinforce it but not necessarily with the closest orbs.

Let's go the other way: What were the events where neither the Year nor Quarter solar ingress showed the events? Of 501 major events in the catalogue, three had no active (non-dormant) solar ingress at all (the Panic of 1907 for NYC, the USS Cole bombing, and the 1992 LA riots. Another 10 had only solar ingresses that described contrary events - that were outright wrong - these included the Krakatoa eruption and local events that had worldwide impact psychologically, like the Christchurch earthquake. They didn't require a solar ingress (and the Krakatoa solar ingresses went the opposite direction of expectation). Yet in all of these but one (the '92 LA riots), the lunar ingresses were superb and fully described things on their own (+2 or +3 scores).

So, for one, not every big event, including world-impacting events, has a solar ingress involved. They can start at the month or week level. But, of course, when playing the odds (going back to your original question), the chances of the solar ingresses describing the event are very high,

But now I'll go back to exactly your original question. (But I thought it needed all this setup for persepective.)

[Jim Eshelman]

Jim, do you agree, partile 0 90 180 Solar Ingress Moon aspects with the malefics have more probability for forecasting worldwide malefic “outstanding incidents” with their worldwide effects possibly lasting years?

This is actually easy to document not by starting with events but by starting with years.

Since you are talking about worldwide impact, we don't need to worry about mundane aspects - just ecliptical ones. I have a collection of Capsolars (for Washington) going back to 1775. Let's search them for all partile Moon-Mars or Moon-Saturn conjunctions, oppositions, or squares.

The results: Only 12 years since 1775 had Moon partile 0/90/180 either Mars or Saturn in the Capsolar. These were: These were 1789, 1826, 1863, 1879, 1880, 1885, 1923, 1948, 1981, 1988, 1989, and 1998. My question back to you is: Can you document that any of these years (preferably most of them ) had "malefic 'outstanding incidents' with their worldwide effects possibly lasting years".

If not, then the answer to your question is a clear No: Filtering for these big events isn't that simple.

[Jim Eshelman]

Turning it around... looking from the perspective of the big, explicitly world-impacting events themselves... do I have any indication that this rule applies?

Because of the structure of your question, I'll look only at (Year and Quarter) solar ingresses and only at lunar aspects. On the first pass, I won't even filter out partile (since that requires doing the charts all over again) - just build a list of major worldwide-impacting events with Moon aspects to malefics in one or the other solar ingress. (I'll just go through the write-ups in SMA.) - I'm primarily looking for Moon-Mars or Moon-Saturn, but will list a few other things as they strike me.

I have not filtered ecliptic aspects from mundane aspects, or isolated where they were partile. I leave it to you to run whatever charts you want and determine whether you can make the generalization you asked about.

VOLCANOES
Huaynaputina eruption. Year Moon-Pluto.
Laki eruption. Year and quarter both Moon-Pluto (also both Moon-Venus).
Krakatoa eruption. Year Moon aspected all three benefics. Quarter, however, had Moon aspect Mars, Saturn, and Pluto. (These were arranged symmetrically, with Moon-Mars being only 04', both straddled by Saturn and Pluto much wider.)
Mt. Tambora eruption. No Moon aspects in the solar ingresses.

EARTHQUAKES
Great Chilean earthquake & tsunami, the most powerful earthquake ever recorded with tsunami waves having wide impact across the Pacific. Year Moon-Neptune.
Sumatra-Andaman earthquake & tsunami caused enormous death and destruction over a much wider area than the earthquake directly affected. We should probably credit the Moon-Saturn in the Cansolar (it at least was important to the quake itself).
Tohoku earthquake & tsunami became a worldwide event from the radioactivity issue at Fukushima. Year Moon-Neptune.

EXPLOSIONS
Chernobyl. Year had Moon aspecting benefics (but one was Uranus). Quarter had Moon aspecting Uranus and Neptune.

DEATHS OF LEADERS
(A few deaths of leaders had worldwide psychological or practical impact. I'll list a few.)
Murder of John Kennedy. Year Moon-Mars-Uranus.
Murder of Mahatma Gandhi. Year Moon-Mars.
Anwar Sadat murder. Year Moon-Mars. (Quarter Moon-Sun-Pluto.)
Yitzhak Rabi murder. Quarter Moon-Pluto.

WARS & MAJOR WARRING ACTIONS
Start of WW I. No malefics (one Moon=-Uranus in the Cansolar).
Start of WW II. Capsolar Moon-Mars. Cansolar Moon-Mars-Saturn-Pluto.
Pearl Harbor. Capsolar mixed aspects. Cansolar very complicated mixed aspects involving all malefics (in with Venus).
Hiroshima. None.
9/11 et seq. Cansolar Moon-Mars-Saturn.

Though Russia's invasion of Ukraine isn't yet in the published catalogue, I note that the Capsolar had a close (non-partile) Moon-Mars opposition.

[SteveS]

Thanks Jim. For sure that 1939 Cansolar definitely kick-started the World into World War 11. Pluto in the mix with Moon, Mars & Saturn definitely produced stunning/shocking malefic results after all the malefic damage was done looking back in a 6-year period for WW11. We want see another one of these type partile aspected Moons with 3 malefics in our lifetimes with a Solar Ingress. Regardless, when we see outstanding type Solar Ingresses, we still have to try and analyze the pulse of things going on in a nation or the World.

[SteveS]

Pondering more about the 1939 Cansolar with its “outstanding incident” symbolism of Cansolar Moon partile conjunct Pluto with this conjunction partile 90 Mars & partile 90 Saturn forming a stunning malefic T-Square, it made me realize this malefic destructive symbolism did not actually manifest in the quarter or year after the 1939 Cansolar nor in the year after the 1939 Cansolar. The actual world event that unfolded was Germany invading Poland in Sept 1939 with both Britain & France quickly declaring war on Germany. Poland put up no defense for Germany’s invasion and the invasion quickly ended on Oct 6 1939, there was no large scale destruction in Europe for the ensuing year after the 1939 Cansolar. Here is what actually happened: It took History 6 years to realize Germany’s invasion of Poland in Sept 1939 and Britain/France declaration of war was only the spark that began WW11 which lasted 6 years with other World Powers eventually becoming involved in Wars, hence WW11.

IMO, what needs to be understood is the 1939 Cansolar accurately describe with its malefic “outstanding incident” symbolism the terrible destruction of human lives and $ loss for WW11 which lasted 6 years. A good analogy is the “outstanding incident” 2016 Libsolar with its acute mundo angular Sun- Mars-Uranus-Pluto symbolism. This symbolism described the turbulent revolutionary political experiences the USA went through when Trump was elected President in Nov 2016 for the following 4 years of his term as Prez. This has allowed me to realize malefic “outstanding incident” Solar Ingresses can have far longer/worse consequences in Time with its malefic symbolism than only the time frame indicated by a malefic Solar Ingress.

Humanity, particularly political leaders/powers, all kinds of media, are mere pawns for manifesting potential malefic symbolism for a possible “outstanding incident” Sidereal Cardinal Solar Ingress. These 4 Sidereal Cardinal Solar Ingresses at certain times have great forewarning potential with a serious study/understanding of Jim’s SMA book.

Mundo malefic “outstanding incident” 2016 Libsolar before the Nov 2016 Prez election:
https://ibb.co/k52jpXb

[SteveS]

Instead of opening-up another thread, I am going to include future “outstanding incidents” Sidereal Solar Ingresses in this same thread.

DC’s 2025 “outstanding incident” angular partile Moon-Pluto 90 Cansolar:
https://ibb.co/JmpnbCp

Also backed-upped with an angular Sun. This chart foreshadows a high % we will see an emotional (Moon) stunning/shocking (Pluto) “outstanding incident” for the 2025 Cansolar quarter time period. Since I have proven to my mind the main national chart for the USA is the Boyd Chart, particularly pertaining to war like incidents, I am much concerned during this 2025 Cansolar quarter the transiting partile conjunction of Saturn & Neptune in the heavens will be dead-on Boyd’s DSC, tightly opposing Boyd’s Mars. This is potentially a very malefic set-up and we need to be paying close attention to the circumstances happening in the World at this time, particularly if any war drums are beating involving the USA. What will be the Russia/Ukraine state of war affairs?

Just because the partile conjunction of Saturn-Neptune is not angular in DC’s 2025 Cansolar does not mean it will have its malefic effects on US. The Saturn-Pluto partile conjunction in DC’s 2020 Capsolar was not angular but the US still suffered an extreme Saturn-Pluto “burden” with the Covid lockdowns in March of 2020. Partile conjunctions of malefic outer Planets is potentially serious mundane business for the World Stage, anywhere in the World. I am not sure if this is important (Jim would know), but in DC's 2025 Capsolar there is a mundo partile 180 of Sun-Mars?

[Jim Eshelman]

The Saturn-Pluto partile conjunction in DC’s 2020 Capsolar was not angular but the US still suffered an extreme Saturn-Pluto “burden” with the Covid lockdowns in March of 2020.

Yes it was: That foreground Sun-Saturn-Pluto conjunction was probably the main feature of the year. It wasn't closely foreground, but that doesn't seem to matter: If the planets are foreground at all, then their aspects matter., and these were close aspects (Saturn-Pluto was partile).

Here is the breakdown of the 2020 Capsolar for Washington:

Uranus on EP-a 1°20'
Mercury on NC 2°54'
Sun on MC 4°23'
Saturn on MC 8°08'
Pluto on MC 8°33'

Saturn-Pluto 0°15'
Saturn-Uranus sq 1°35' M
Sun-Saturn co 1°53'
Uranus-Pluto 2°00'
Sun-Pluto 2°08'
Sun-Uranus 2°10' M
Sun-Mercury co 3°14'
-- Su/Me on MC 0°44'

I am not sure if this is important (Jim would know), but in DC's 2025 Capsolar there is a mundo partile 180 of Sun-Mars?

What I'm about to say won't sound right at first, but bear with me, Steve. (This is written up in detail in SMA.)

The Sun-Mars opposition isn't important BECAUSE there is already an ecliptical Sun-Mars aspect.

To explain: Mundane aspects are LOCAL events like angularity, so they have the ability to distinguish one location from another. However, if there is already an ecliptical aspect, then the one area isn't distinguished from all other areas. Since the Sun-Mars isn't foreground in DC, it "doesn't count."

But look at the Capsolar for Beijing: Pluto is 0°26' from Asc, Mars 1°45' from Dsc, wider foreground Moon, Sun, and Uranus. Here the 1°34' Sun-Mars opposition is foreground and the 2°10' Mars-Pluto mundane opposition is even strong (by angularity). Plus Sun-Uranus 0°18' mundo. What's coming down with China?

[SteveS]

Jim wrote:

Since the Sun-Mars isn't foreground in DC, it "doesn't count."

So, partile/tight solar ingress moon aspects act like they are angular no matter where on the wheel they fall, they apply to the whole world; but, the same does not apply to partile/tight Sun aspects anywhere on the wheel, Sun aspects must be foreground to count. Somewhat confusing to me. Is this a statistical issue or something to do with the Sun symbolizing governments and moon the people of the government? Since a Cardinal Sun Ingress (exact 0 degree of the Sun) is important, it is difficult for me to understand why aspects to a cardinal sun would not be important for the whole world no matter where on the wheel they fall? I will go back and read the part in SMA for this issue. Thanks Jim.

So, for DC's 2025 Cansolar the partile conjunction of Saturn-Neptune does not count because it is not foreground? Whereas, DC's 2020 Capsolar partile Saturn-Pluto conjunction counted because it was foreground. Were they not some places in the World that was locked down because of Covid-- but the partile Saturn-Pluto conjunction was not foreground? I look upon the partile conjunction of Saturn-Pluto for the 2020 Capsolars all over the world as the cosmic cause/effects of Covid. Some places more severe than others because of angularity or not. Anyway, thanks much Jim for your input.

I think for sure with US Boyd's Chart it will come under a severe test with the partile conjunction of Saturn-Neptune falling partile on Boyd's DSC. I can't ever recall an outer malefic planet's partile conjunction falling partile on Boyd's primary angles? Makes that "outstanding incident" mundo partile Moon-Pluto 90 in DC;s 2025 Cansolar look most interesting to me. Time will tell for sure--if my life is still around to witness.

[Jim Eshelman]

So, partile/tight solar ingress moon aspects act like they are angular no matter where on the wheel they fall, they apply to the whole world; but, the same does not apply to partile/tight Sun aspects anywhere on the wheel, Sun aspects must be foreground to count.

Yes. One thing I checked is whether Sun aspects worked regardless of where the fall (like Moon) and they do not. Sun is just another planet in the ingresses.

My theory is that mundane astrology is essentially lunar. It binds people at the level of shared unconsciousness. Sun singles out individualism and there is no individualism in mass-mind, collective phenomena the way there is in individual/personal charts.

Is this a statistical issue or something to do with the Sun symbolizing governments and moon the people of the government?

Yes, statistical. Or, more simply: Take all the events in SMA, run all the solar and lunar ingresses, and count all Sun conjunctions, oppositions, and squares within 3° (same as we would for Moon). They don't hold up. They are statistical white noise, more or less as likely to be right as wrong.

So, for DC's 2025 Cansolar the partile conjunction of Saturn-Neptune does not count because it is not foreground? Whereas, DC's 2020 Capsolar partile Saturn-Pluto conjunction counted because it was foreground.

Exactly! And, of course, it "counts" where it happens to be on an angle - for example, more or less right through your living room (Saturn 11', Neptune 14' for Springville)! Or Honduras, Paris, Barcelona, etc.

Though there are subtleties that were discovered, the basic rule still covers nearly everything we know: Determine what is foreground/angular. No other planets exist (delete them from the chart). The one exception is anything aspecting Moon.

Were they not some places in the World that was locked down because of Covid-- but the partile Saturn-Pluto conjunction was not foreground?

I don't have a good tracking. We had Saturn in Capricorn regardless - I actually think that's a bigger deal than the Saturn-Pluto conjunction. (Saturn entered Capricorn January 30, 2020, then left Capricorn for good a few weeks ago and, three or four days after that, Biden announced that the Covid emergency was over.)

That would be worth checking. Nonetheless, the Sun-Saturn-Pluto triple conjunction was foreground for Washington and (1) the U.S. was hit hard and (2) with Sun-Saturn-Pluto, we had TWO (not one, but TWO) presidential impeachments. That foreground Sun-Saturn-Pluto conjunction square Uranus was clearly the pattern of the U.S. for the year.

[Jim Eshelman]

Though there are subtleties that were discovered, the basic rule still covers nearly everything we know: Determine what is foreground/angular. No other planets exist (delete them from the chart). The one exception is anything aspecting Moon.

Just to spell this out a bit, the 2020 Capsolar for Washington had no Moon aspects, so step 1 is to identify which planets we get to work with. These are Sun, Mercury, Saturn, Uranus, Pluto (which is quite a lot).

The main thing is to find out, then, is what aspects these planets make. The closest of them is Saturn conjunct Pluto (0°14'). The second closest BTW is the 1°35' Saturn-Uranus, and I saw so much of Covid time as the worldwide inner and outer struggle of "I want to get out vs. I have to stay in," i.e., lockdown or physical freedom vs. physical constraint. The third closest as the Sun-Saturn conjunction.

As an aside, I don't think we can ignore that the most angular planets (the only Class 1 i.e. "close" angularities) were Mercury and Uranus - and lockdown was marked, as much as anything, by the breakout social and practical reliance on Zoom and other tech innovations. Looking back, it was as much "live in Zoom" as anything else!

PS -
One final thing that we probably don't know what it means but it's worth noting: Saturn-Pluto was the second closest aspect of the foreground planets. The closest was Saturn's square to a planet just as large as Pluto - Eris - which was a degree and a half above Ascendant of the Capsolar. The aspect was only 0°05' wide. Other than a broad sense that Eris involves chaos, I can't say we know what this means, but I mention it as something interesting about this Capsolar.

[Jim Eshelman]

FWIW (especially considering that Covid was not on our radar when I wrote the forecast in November 2019), I don't think I did too bad of a job catching the tone of 2020 in the U.S. in my Capsolar forecast. (The areas named for natural disaster were actually some of the areas of most severe Covid outbreaks in the U.S.)

For the United States, the 12 months beginning January 15, 2020 are dominated by Uranus on Eastpoint and a triple Sun-Saturn-Pluto conjunction (with some Mercury) at Midheaven. It will be a difficult year with more challenges than blessings. Perhaps our best way to use this year is to prepare for the even more severe patterns coming in 2021.

URANUS gives the main flavor of the year, which will be full of surprises. Uranus forecasts sudden rupture or eruption, shock, surprise, revelation, and overflowing of normal boundaries and limitations. Some extreme destructive examples are explosions, structural collapses, earthquakes, and floods. Uranus events actively caused by people include surprise attacks, sharp changes in foreign relationships, and changes in leadership, whether through death, coup, or abdication; as well as riots, revolts, and other populist uprisings.

However, the year's main story likely will be told by the more widely foreground cluster of Sun, Saturn, and Pluto. Every four years, the U.S. enacts a ritual deposing our head of state (it's called a presidential election). For over half a century, in every election year except 1984, Pluto has been on Midheaven of the Capsolar, a perfect symbol. This year, with Pluto conjunct Saturn as the closest aspect (0°15'), within about 2° of a culminating Sun, the momentum to overthrow the seated monarch is more than ceremonial: It seems that it is the focus of the national soul. By one means or another, it seems astrologically inconceivable that Donald Trump's presidency will survive both the constitutional impeachment process and the constitutional election process.

This will be a horrible struggle, probably with great damage along the way. SATURN CONJUNCT PLUTO signifies tragedy or hardship including catastrophic disasters often laying waste to a landscape. The planets' symbolism describes feelings of irrevocable loss or separation, a seemingly apocalyptic moment. The last time the U.S. had an angular Saturn-Pluto this powerful was in 2001, for the 9/11 attacks. Historically, the aspect has marked the downfall of cities and nations (though that would be an extreme expression).

In the U.S., the Sun-Saturn-Pluto triplet is exactly angular in southern Florida, New Orleans, and coastal Mississippi. I fear there is no way these areas (and Yucatan) will make it through 2020 without a devastating (likely Category 5) hurricane after the fashion of Hurricane Andrew, just as the Mars line through the Santa Barbara region makes it seem certain this year's fires in that area will be more severe than the already-terrible ones of the recent past.

SUN-SATURN marks primarily sad events. (Even happy events occur under arduous conditions.) Examples include the death or other restraint of national leaders; government gridlock or other lockdown involving restrictive, controlling, or failing government that causes or worsens disaster; fiscal crisis; structural collapses, hurricanes, floods, earthquakes, and other events mandating government oversight and response. SUN-PLUTO events can be highly diverse, from natural disasters to political confrontation, but routine motifs include removing or assaulting those in power, rebelling against prevailing conventions, and disrespect for and disobeying the law.

Uniting these two themes, Uranus forms mundane squares to Sun, Saturn, and Pluto. In order of strength, SATURN-URANUS signals bubble-bursting forced confrontation with harsh reality. Expect wide swings of great tension between opposites such as freedom-restriction, liberality-conservatism, or the forces of change and status quo, with political and practical gridlock until one side gains dominance. URANUS-PLUTO is destabilizing, revolutionary, revising, remapping, anti-establishment, and often anti-government, with a spirit of revolution that dismantles current systems and tears down existing structures (metaphorically or literally). People are willing to ignore, challenge, or forcibly reject precedent, custom, convention, and authority. SUN-URANUS signals sudden, startling events that are psychologically (and sometimes physically) explosive such as surprise attacks, sudden changes in leadership, and life-altering technology breakthroughs.

We are already in a new American civil war, at least with respect to culture. This chart portrays a nation hurled more deeply into that divided reality in 2020, perhaps closer to the spirit of a new American revolution. With Pluto at the end of Sagittarius, every solar or lunar cardinal ingress of the next two or three years, for every part of the world, will have Sun or Moon closely conjunct, opposite, or square Pluto.

Mercury is 3° from Midheaven. Sun and Mercury are conjunct, their midpoint half a degree from MC. Compared to the above, the usual Mercury themes seem trivial. Beyond the obvious, one would hope that trade wars are over and the flow of international commerce resumes at its old pace. We can anticipate a year of technology altering everyday life at even a faster rate than currently anticipated (not limited to 5G and IOT). Mercury is 0°10' from square Uranus in RA, so these developments are well within its purview: We have a year of discovery and amazement ahead, even as we endure a persistent sense of emergency and alarm.

[SteveS]

Jim, when it comes to the finer important details for any kind of Sidereal Astrology, you teach me . I just told my friends and family 2020 was going to be some mundane s--t coming down! Of course I had no idea what it was going to be---only some malefic mundane stuff hitting us in the face. The world is still feeling the malefic effects in many different ways for that important angular partile 2020 Capsolar Saturn-Pluto conjuction. Indeed, it was a malefic "outstanding incident"---Covid (a huge "burden" (Saturn-Pluto) for the world).

[SteveS]

It should be remembered since the “outstanding incident” partile angular 90 of Moon-Pluto in DC’s 2025 Cansolar is a mundane aspect, this is not a World Moon-Pluto influence, it’s an “outstanding incident” Moon-Pluto influence probably localized to the immediate circumstances happening in the DC governing institution. And, since at this same time for the beginning of DC's 2025 Cansolar, the malefic transit of the partile conjunction of Saturn-Neptune will be partile conjunct USA Boyd’s DSC, IMO, USA governing body in DC’s will be reacting in a Moon-Pluto manner to this malefic transit of Saturn-Neptune to USA Boyd’s DSC, a National “outstanding incident”.

Jim’s Moon-Pluto bullet points from his book “Sidereal Mundane Astrology”

Moon-Pluto
Events stun the senses and halt the mind with their intensity with Moon-Pluto aspects.
• INAUGURATION OF WAR. Moon-Pluto is the most common Moon aspect for the
start of war.
• DEATHS & DEPARTURES OF PRESIDENTS & KINGS. Moon-Pluto aspects were in one of the solar ingresses for the shooting of Lincoln, Kennedy, and Reagan and the death of Taylor; and for the resignation of Nixon and abdications of Kings Edward VIII and Juan Carlos, among other similar events.
• BOMBS. Moon-Uranus aspects top the list, but Pluto comes right after.
• UPRISINGS, RIOTS & SUPPRESSIONS. Moon-Pluto aspects backup Moon-Uranus aspects in these charts, indicating an overthrowing of the bounds of restriction and suppression.
We have seen Moon-Pluto aspects especially for breakthrough events in the claiming of civil liberties and confronting authority, though the aspect is not limited to this type of uprising.
• OTHER STAGGERINGLY INTENSE EVENTS, including vast destruction from natural disasters (foremost aspect for major hurricanes, volcanoes, and coalmine disasters), and similar devastation and death caused by human action such as the inauguration of war or tragic killings (three examples of which all involve deaths of children, and two more occurred at schools).

[SteveS]

Discoverd today:
The 1999 DC Capsolar which only with partile octile aspects (45 degrees) of Sun/Mars = Pluto = EP calculated the May 3 1999, app 7:00 PM CapQ for Moore, Oklahoma the “outstanding incident” for the most powerful tornado ever recorded in the US by completely destroying Moore, Oklahoma.

DC’s 1999 Capsolar:
https://ibb.co/Y21Lv84

Note: DCs Capsolar Sun partile 45 angular Capsolar Pluto partile conjunct Capsolar EP with Capsolar Mars partile 45 Capsolar Pluto; Capsolar Sun partile 90 Capsolar Mars forming this most destructive direct Midpoint of Sun/Mars = Pluto = EP.

And then Moore’s May 3 1999 7:00 PM “outstanding incident” CapQ:
https://ibb.co/C1gLhHz

Note: Sun/Mars = Pluto = MC (again with its partile octile aspects).
A side note: Pluto is vargottama partile conjunct (eclipto) the fixed star Antares, but we don’t really need to realize this, the angular aspects speak for themselves.

You can read about this Sun/Mars = Pluto destruction of Moore, Oklahoma here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_Brid ... re_tornado

Never in my entire life have I encountered such a profound mystery as Sidereal Mundane Astrology with its "outstanding incident" charts as well as "outstanding incident" return charts for humanity/people.

[Jim Eshelman]

I'd never heard of this one - thanks. It wasn't in any of the "worst tornado" lists I checked for the SMA tornado project.

Of course, there are lots of kinds of "worsts." Oklahoma's DEADLIST disaster was a 1947 tornado.

I'll dig into this.

[SteveS]

Canada’s worst weather disaster for one of its major cities in its history occurred in Montreal and surrounding areas with an unprecedented 7 day Ice Storm Jan 4-10 1998, millions left without power for days/weeks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_1 ... _ice_storm

This topic tread is mainly applying to Jim’s 1970s teachings:

Partile aspects reign supreme. It is when angularity and aspect partility coincide that outstanding incidents are most likely to come about.

Montreal’s “outstanding incident” Mercury-Mars-Saturn 1997 Capsolar (Master Chart of the Year)
https://ibb.co/dK88FJn

Note a partile 180 of Mars-Saturn partile conjunct the Zenith-Nadir axis; with Mercury partile conjunct DSC t-squaring Mars-Saturn.

[Jim Eshelman]

That is indeed a nasty Capsolar.

The three closest angularities aren't Mercury-Mars-Saturn, though, but Mars-Saturn-Pluto. (Pluto squares MC 0°35'.) But Mercury is certainly part of the closest aspect set. (Mercury is almost three degrees above Descendant - Venus is actually closer, which gives a strong Mercury-Venus. But the single closest aspect is the 0°03' Mercury-Mars square which I've seen dozens of times for "the violence of wind."

The Libsolar was comparably impactful, but not very detailed. Its one angularity is Pluto, 0°36' from square MC as in the Capsolar (almost to the minute the same).

The new Caplunar December 30 was dormant. That means the December 23 Liblunar flowed through as the operative lunar ingress of the "week." It was quite clear:

Saturn on MC -1°09'
Mars on MC -1°39'
Venus on MC -1°56'
plus some wider Neptune and Uranus

Venus-Mars co 0°17' M
Mars-Saturn sq 0°30' M
Venus-Saturn sq 0°47' M

[SteveS]

Excellent observations Jim which I also mostly observed but omitted for certain reasons. I think this may be a good time for me to try and explain a specific purpose I have for only offering SMA examples in this topic/threads pertaining to your following words:

Partile aspects reign supreme. It is when angularity and aspect partility coincide that outstanding incidents are most likely to come about.

Please, everyone reading this topic/threads understand there is much more to Jim’s SMA teachings than these certain SMA examples I am offering to Jim’s specific above words.

I have a somewhat difficult task of trying to achieve a written presentation to a group of June conference speakers who are not Astrologers, but all of these speakers have deep beliefs that astronomy with the Sidereal Zodiac played a huge role with the ancients. I know for a fact one of the main speakers at the June conference does not realize that Fagan/Bradley discovered the exact equal 30 degree divisions of the Sidereal Zodiac, but understands enough celestial astronomy to possibly see the vast astronomical truths of SMA. It is my main purpose to reach his mind and prove to him what can be seen with mundane “outstanding incidents” pertaining to Fagan/Bradley SVP with SMA. This person is in a unique and respected position to spread the truths of SMA widely-- if I can present something to him proving these truths where he can then prepare his own presentation to important others, if he chooses to do so. I am endeavoring to offer certain proofs of SMA in order to possibly open the minds of other non-astrologers with scientific minds to what can be seen/understood with Fagan/Bradley SVP, and possibly improve humanity’s future. It will be explained to all persons who receive my presentation that you are my SMA teacher and they will be provided with a link to your SMA book for the entirety of your teachings. Also, that I am only presenting to them a limited scope of your SMA teachings. So, this topic/threads is mainly a scratch pad for a few of SMA examples using your above quoted words, but please Jim, continue to add all the other SMA specifics with your keen SMA observations, it helps us here to all learn.

[Veronica]

I really admire your courage and passion for putting the spotlight on Sidereal Astrology. It must be so exhilarating preparing your ideas and getting your presentation together. I used to love doing deep research and then presenting my findings when I was in school, and even now just sharing here my findings of my own inner work I find fulfilling.
I used to practice reading my reports to my mother and my oldest sister, which was very kind of them to listen and help me smooth out my rough edges. I remember doing a thesis on music censorship (Pmrc in the late 80s) and playing bits of " controversial " music for my mom and how excited she got about the whole thing, but also how it helped her understand me as an individual. She told me that, she said she never knew I felt or thought like that about things....it really strengthened and deepened our relationship. Anyhoo....thanks for sharing your passion to help the world understand each other better!