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Andrew Cuomo

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Jan 10, 2017

Andrew Cuomo, current governor of New York and a former cabinet member in the Clinton administration, was born December 6, 1957, in New York City. I can't find a birth time (if you find one, please let us know). He's been taking very strong leadership steps lately, is positioning New York as one of the states in the vanguard of the Trump resistance, and is already getting some attention as likely strong contender for the Democratic nomination in 2020.

His father, Mario Cuomo, was born June 16, 1932, 9:30 AM, in Jamaica, NY with Jupiter rising and Saturn square MC. I mention this in the event that there is astro-heredity operating.

Andrew has a Scorpio Sun closely conjunct Saturn. He's a strong figure who makes well-reasoned and bold moves, and is definitely a scrapper when need be. His Moon seems well established in mid-Taurus. As a Scorpio-Taurus he is easily the opposing nemesis of Taurus-Scorpio Trump.

It's way too early to make serious projections about 2020, and never a good idea to predict any contest before you know who the players are; but, so far as we can take a look without a birth time, I thought it worth scanning the basics for Cuomo three to four years from now.

In November 2020, Pluto will be approaching, but still a few degrees shy of, square to his Jupiter. What is within 1° of square his Jupiter on Election Day is Saturn, as part of a Mercury-Saturn square that occurs that day - not a good start. Neptune will have squared his Sun-Saturn conjunction over the year - which is really not a good start, and probably shows scandal and weakness eliminating him. Sun squares his Uranus exactly on Election Day so, whatever happens and whatever his role (if any), he's in for a surprise!

OK, so this isn't showing him as a likely player.

Progressed Sun squares his natal Mars in 2020, so he may indeed compete - he's a competer and, as mentioned, a scrapper. He has a Mercury-Jupiter progressed square, which (if the assessment that he can't win) I hope doesn't mean he's an easy target for getting the nomination - it at least means that he rises to new eloquence, has people listening and valuing and honoring his words, and that business opportunities go well. More combat: Progressed Mars trines his Pluto.

I think he's worth watching. It could be an interesting show.
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Cuomo is back in the news so more attention is coming to his chart.

The only other new data I have is that his ex-wife, Kerry Kennedy, was born September 8, 1959, 12;55 PM EDT, Boston, MA (AA).

Now... I don't know if Andrew does have Jupiter angular like his dad but, if he does, the one angular Jupiter time that places his Moon exactly on Kerry's Descendant, a few degrees from opposite her Moon (and, for all that attraction, also gives him a precise Moon-Pluto square which also brings separation into the picture) is Jupiter rising - just like Mario. That happened at 2:59 AM, so a trial chart of 3:00 AM is worth a look.

Is this time even credibly in the ballpark? Let's try a couple of solar returns that should show high contrast. During 2020 he was a highly praised star for his singularly excellent handling of his state's pandemic response, the perfect Scorpio-Taurus counter to Trump's Taurus-Scorpio. Then, in 2021, he's under attack, under criminal investigation, and at risk of impeachment. The December 2019 and December 2020 should show strong contrasts and correct themes.

We get off to a good start: The 12/7/2019 SSR has transiting Jupiter on IC. (SSR Moon is a less refined measure of an accurate birth time but at least seems correct with its squares to Venus and Saturn - reaching Saturn by progression around February when everything hit the fan.)

OTOH his 12/6/2020 SSR doesn't show any particular problems, though it arguably shows him in the news: Sun and Mercury straddle Ascendant. There seems nothing in the SSR to show a particularly tough year. - Oh, wait, maybe there is: The closely rising Sun is semi-square transiting Saturn less than 1°. It's weak, since Saturn is background, but it's at least "allowable" and accurate.

So... this chart is at least worth entertaining. I can't credit transiting Pluto approximately square this chart's Ascendant because it's also been squaring his Jupiter, which covers current events well enough.
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Re: Andrew Cuomo

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Very interesting,

As the Gov of my state I have looked at his chart as well as his fathers.
would checking into the transits for his fathers death ( 1-1-2015) gleen any info?
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Veronica wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 9:23 am would checking into the transits for his fathers death ( 1-1-2015) gleen any info?
Where was he living at the time? (Was this a sudden event or gradual and anticipated?)

No particular transits to the natal. The main secondary progression applied for a whole year and doesn't help us on his birthtime: p Sun op. r Uranus.

One possible connection: Solar Arc Pluto (actually, his Moon-Pluto square) aspects the 3 AM Midheaven if the MC were 1°41' later, i.e., a birth time of 3:07 AM (give or take 4 minutes). That's something to consider.

Is the chart even in the ballpark? It would help to know where he was located. For NYC, his 12/5/14 SLR has Neptune rising paran Sun on MC and transiting Saturn square Asc - It's a really good lunar return for the event. His Demi-SLR 12/19/14 puts his natal Sun-Saturn conjunction on IC, about as perfect a symbolism for "death of father" as you could want - but I'd want to check this against where he actually was when it happened.

ADDED: I see he was re-elected governor in late 2014, so he was living in Albany when his father died. I don't know if that's where he was at the time, but it's where he was living.

ADDED FURTHER: 1-1-2015 was the day Andrew was sworn into his new term. He was in Albany. His father died a few hours later in Manhattan. I'll look further at the above charts for this date using Albany as the location.
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For his father's death, his SLR for Albany (based on a speculative 3 AM time) had:

3°02' Sco - t Saturn
4°04' Aqu SLR Asc
8°10' Leo - r Pluto
9°57' Aqu - t Neptune (3°17' below Asc)

17°01' Sco - t Mercury
18°31' Sco - t Sun
18°42' Sco SLR MC
19°47' Sco - r Sun
22°17' Sco - r Saturn

If I worked out all the details mundanely, there likely are fascinating and fit mundane aspects like t Neptune sq. r Sun-Saturn. Just from the above, this is quite good!

His Demi-SLR for his father's death (for Albany) would have:

19°47' Sco - r Sun
22°14' Sco SLR IC
22°17' Sco - r Saturn

Again, quite good.

The same theme appears in his 12/6/14 SSR:

18°59' Sco - t Mercury
19°27' Aqu SSR MC
19°47' Sco - r Sun
21°49' Tau SSR EP-a
22°17' Sco - r Saturn
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If 3 AM is correct, the first recent allegation of sexual harassment on 12/13/20 occurred the day transiting Saturn crossed his natal IC (starting to conjoin his Venus). Jupiter crossed the IC soon after. The second allegation (which drew the most attention) on 2/27/21 occurred with Pluto square the 3 AM Asc (but also square natal Jupiter regardless of birth time). Several more came forth in early March and by the time the NY Assembly approved an impeachment investigation March 11, transiting Mars was exactly conjunct the 3 AM Moon.
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I can see him with a Libra Asc easily.
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Veronica wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:55 pm I can see him with a Libra Asc easily.
I'm curious what you see that suggests this.
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This does not sound like Cuomo. Yes, he's a nasty jerk, but he's also too smart to do most of the things being claimed. Holding onto somebody's arm too long? I think this is being built up by progressives who think they can win something if they get rid of Cuomo. I think it's going to backfire on them.

I've met him several times, and while that doesn't mean I have any special knowledge, I really think this is a bunch of politicians who he stepped on pretty hard trying to get back at him. And yes, I think some of these women are getting perks for complaining. Not paid, I don't think, but perks.
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Cuomo and Biden are both Scorpios. They've both been accused of being very (let's say) "hands on" without much of anybody seriously thinking they are molesters or abusers. Nonetheless, the politicians need to cover themselves and serve public sentiment by calling for an investigation, I suppose.

Scorpio men are rather forthright in a phallic sort of way.
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He still knows to keep his hands to himself especially with staff and volunteers. Biden forgets. Cuomo, after the trouble his father had, doesn't.

This is the progressive wing of the party looking for paybacks because he was stepping on them and insulting them.
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Jim Eshelman wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:11 pm
Veronica wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:55 pm I can see him with a Libra Asc easily.
I'm curious what you see that suggests this.
He dresses very well.
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Sometimes Pluto's transit to Jupiter causes the uplifted to tumble.

Yesterday (8/3) a NY investigation issued its report that Cuomo had harassed 11 women and broken state and federal laws. There's still due process, which surely will include an impeachment trial, but large segments of the Democratic political establishment turned on him yesterday (including his friend President Biden, who really didn't have to weigh in, saying Cuomo should resign).

Cuomo has Jupiter precisely rising. He now has transiting Pluto square natal Jupiter and Ascendant within a few minutes. Transiting Mars conjunct his Pluto was the "caught red handed" feel that triggered things yesterday.

He also had a new SLR Sunday which, for Albany, has transiting Pluto (square his Neptune) closely angular. In fact, it's a Pluto-Eris partile mundane square within 2° of angles.
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He won't be impeached if he resigns... but I don't think he'll resign.
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