SteveS wrote:Jim, judging only by the face of a Sidereal Solar Ingress, it appears there will be high probability for some type of severe explosive development with the time period covered by DC’s 2016 Libsolar. Although only a lesser quarter ingress this Libsolar needs to be noted, IMO.
Mundoscope:
Mars 00,24 cnj MC
Pluto 01,04 cnj MC
Uranus 01,00 cnj ASC
Sun 00,18 cnj DSC
Partile Eclipto aspects:
Sun 135 Neptune
Venus 45 Mars & Pluto
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Re: DC's 2016 Libsolar
I agree. Although the Capsolar is stronger than individual quarters, they each hold their own; and the 2016 Capsolar is dormant anyway.
This may also relate to the explosive volatility we saw around the following January 20. In fact, the Caplunar December 30 falls in the Libsolar quarter, and has Saturn culminating and Mars-Neptune rising: The violence may not involve the new president so much as the old.
These Libsolar angularities are impressively close. I see the relevant chart factors as being:
Sun on Dsc 0°18'
Mars on MC 0°24'
Uranus rising 1°00'
Pluto on MC 1°04'
Mercury on WP 1°44' (and setting 2°17')
Jupiter setting (7°20')
(The Jupiter isn't likely to be a significant factor, other than to show context and special conditions, e.g., something in an academic or entertainment venue, or having strong, overt religious and other ideological themes. The Mercury involvement, especially by aspects, suggests this as an explosive transportation event or possibly a surprise attack from the air.)
Sun-Mars sq. (0°07' in mundo)
Mars-Uranus sq. (0°36' in mundo)
Sun-Uranus op. (0°42 in mundo')
Mars-Pluto conj. (1°04')
Mercury-Uranus (1°17' in mundo)
Sun-Pluto square (1°22' in mundo)
Moon-Venus op. (1°38' in mundo)
Mercury-Mars sq. (1°53' in mundo)
Sun-Mercury conj. (1°59' in mundo)
Uranus-Pluto sq. (2°04' in mundo)
The December 30 Caplunar has:
Saturn 0°54' from MC
Neptune 1°04' from Asc
Mars 1°36' from Asc
(Venus 7°28' from Asc)
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Mars-Neptune conj. (0°32' in mundo)
Saturn-Neptune sq. (1°58' in mundo)
Mars-Saturn sq. (2°30' in mundo)
Saturn-Neptune 0°05' from angles
Mars/Saturn 0°21' from angles
This is one of the very worst (if not THE very worst) ingress I've ever seen.
This may also relate to the explosive volatility we saw around the following January 20. In fact, the Caplunar December 30 falls in the Libsolar quarter, and has Saturn culminating and Mars-Neptune rising: The violence may not involve the new president so much as the old.
These Libsolar angularities are impressively close. I see the relevant chart factors as being:
Sun on Dsc 0°18'
Mars on MC 0°24'
Uranus rising 1°00'
Pluto on MC 1°04'
Mercury on WP 1°44' (and setting 2°17')
Jupiter setting (7°20')
(The Jupiter isn't likely to be a significant factor, other than to show context and special conditions, e.g., something in an academic or entertainment venue, or having strong, overt religious and other ideological themes. The Mercury involvement, especially by aspects, suggests this as an explosive transportation event or possibly a surprise attack from the air.)
Sun-Mars sq. (0°07' in mundo)
Mars-Uranus sq. (0°36' in mundo)
Sun-Uranus op. (0°42 in mundo')
Mars-Pluto conj. (1°04')
Mercury-Uranus (1°17' in mundo)
Sun-Pluto square (1°22' in mundo)
Moon-Venus op. (1°38' in mundo)
Mercury-Mars sq. (1°53' in mundo)
Sun-Mercury conj. (1°59' in mundo)
Uranus-Pluto sq. (2°04' in mundo)
The December 30 Caplunar has:
Saturn 0°54' from MC
Neptune 1°04' from Asc
Mars 1°36' from Asc
(Venus 7°28' from Asc)
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Mars-Neptune conj. (0°32' in mundo)
Saturn-Neptune sq. (1°58' in mundo)
Mars-Saturn sq. (2°30' in mundo)
Saturn-Neptune 0°05' from angles
Mars/Saturn 0°21' from angles
This is one of the very worst (if not THE very worst) ingress I've ever seen.
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Re: DC's 2016 Libsolar
I think all of these effects are operative, but far below the threshold of relevance. It is seductive to look at it as setting up a pattern that the Libsolar brings to the fore. However, this also makes us prone to displace emphasis, I think.SteveS wrote:Jim wrote:When we look at 2016 Capsolar being dormant—can we still read its Mundoscope as featuring angular Mars-Pluto symbolism? If yes, then the Libsolar could definitely help us time WHEN this Mundo Capsolar Mars-Pluto would manifest.Although the Capsolar is stronger than individual quarters, they each hold their own; and the 2016 Capsolar is dormant anyway.
The next couple of years of charts are interesting in part because there is so much dormancy in critical charts. Also, after more than half a century of guaranteeing a tightly angular Pluto in a Washington, DC Capsolar, we are now moving out of that phase - that's a dramatic difference! Using a 3° orb, 2015-2016 do not have an angular Pluto (and are dormant anyway), 2017 has no Pluto (Jupiter closely, Uranus secondarily), 2018 does restore an angular Pluto (8' from square Ascendant), and 2019 again drops it (Uranus is the main force, Saturn secondary).
To state this differently: Fundamental characteristics people have attributed to America on the world stage since World War II disappear after this year, with a rare recurrence in the years ahead. I can only begin to guess what that means. For a while, Uranus will be taking Pluto's place, but that won't last forever.
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SteveS wrote:Yes, I am going to take a simple approach to the 2016 Libsolar. For the decade of the 2010’s Uranus-Pluto partile 90 each other many times. It is obvious this Uranus-Pluto aspect is causing all kinds of crisis all over the planet. If a major crisis is to strike America there is high probability it will happen with the 2016 Libsolar within the context of the Uranus-Pluto theme for the decade of the 2010’s. I will personally plan accordingly which would not have been possible without your SMA book.Jim wrote:To state this differently: Fundamental characteristics people have attributed to America on the world stage since World War II disappear after this year, with a rare recurrence in the years ahead. I can only begin to guess what that means. For a while, Uranus will be taking Pluto's place, but that won't last forever.
SteveS wrote:Jim, to make sure I am on the same page with you. Do you interpret the Dec 30 2016 Caplunar as timing when the Libsolar symbolism manifest, since the Caplunar is a shorter term chart, being the Master Chart of the month vs the Libsolar being the chart for the quarter?Jim wrote:This is one of the very worst (if not THE very worst) ingress I've ever seen.
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Yes, I'm saying that if we expect "bad stuff" from the quarter, the worst month of the quarter is the Caplunar. Since the Libsolar phenomena are expected to manifest between mid-October and mid-January, the question becomes: When exactly?SteveS wrote:Jim, to make sure I am on the same page with you. Do you interpret the Dec 30 2016 Caplunar as timing when the Libsolar symbolism manifest, since the Caplunar is a shorter term chart, being the Master Chart of the month vs the Libsolar being the chart for the quarter?
It's tricky. This "master chart of the month" doesn't seem to work the same as, say, Lunar Returns. A single Arilunar (for example) could slip through with matching bad symbolism, and "pull" the event to that week. It's just that the Caplunar is a longer-range chart than a pure "weekly," and I was already keenly aware of this horrible, horrible lunar ingress from when we looked at the inauguration.
What you found about the Libsolar puts a different twist on the inauguration events: This Caplunar overlaps the old and new Capsolars. Most of its term overlaps with the Libsolar, not the new Capsolar. The violence anticipated may not be an inauguration day phenomenon, but something that occurs before January 15. (I was ready to expect it on inauguration day because Hillary's charts show such violence that day.)
SteveS wrote:Thanks Jim—very interesting future Ingresses we are discussing pertaining to 2016.
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SteveS wrote:For Jim to make this statement with the detailed amount of Sidereal Mundane Ingress work he done in his life speaks volumes to me. IF there is to be another terrorist attack within this Nation worst than 9/11-- then the 2016 DC Libsolar combined with the Dec 30th 2016 Caplunar is foretelling this attack.Jim wrote:This is one of the very worst (if not THE very worst) ingress I've ever seen.
If a major crises happens to our Nation pertaining to the 2016 Libsolar combined with the Dec 30th 2016 Caplunar, I expect our Nation to bounce back beneficially with Ebertin’s ‘Thank you Lord’ aspect with an acute angular Jupiter-Uranus theme for the 2017 Capsolar—the Master Chart of the year.
Exactly, my mind thought the same. A former colleague and I are allowing a week before the Dec. 30th 2016 DC Caplunar for a possible major short position in the market for a bearish event to hit the Nation. Do you still see the Dec. 30th 2016 DC Caplunar as timing a possible ugly event?Jim wrote:See what I just wrote in the "2015 Cansolar" thread. After a hard, strained, 2015, the 2016 Cansolar shows a really big inflationary bubble IMO. Then the Libsolar hits hard.
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Yes. Very ugly. Sometime in the four weeks following it (which does include the inauguration; but I tend to think that it will manifest before the 2017 Capsolar, so we're talking December 30 to January 14.SteveS wrote:Exactly, my mind thought the same. A former colleague and I are allowing a week before the Dec. 30th 2016 DC Caplunar for a possible major short position in the market for a bearish event to hit the Nation. Do you still see the Dec. 30th 2016 DC Caplunar as timing a possible ugly event?
I think it will go like this:
Start of period: December 30, 2016.
End of period: High-prosperity Capsolar January 14, 2017
January 6 Arilunar is angular Moon close, plus foreground Mercury-Jupiter-Uranus and Sun-Pluto. Intense, but I think still mostly good. (I can think of some exceptions, such as an attack on U.S. for ideological reasons similar to those of 9/11). January 12 Canlunar is primarily Mercury, nothing in particular. Even giving the widest edge to the Arilunar, I think we can limit it to December 30 - January 11.
Not sure why you are allowing a week before the Caplunar. (I probably don't understand the concepts.) I thought you'd rely on bullish run-up from the 2016 Cansolar, and then look for a break point after the Caplunar, in its period.
Looking for individual dates in the target period, I observe the following in the CapQ:
December 21 (Wednesday) is a Jupiter day in DC. There is some ambiguity because of a Saturn involvement with the Venus that also squares the Jupiter, but I think shaving the orbs shows that they two aren't in reach of the angles at the same time.
Wednesday, January 4, starts a 2-to-3-day stretch when Pluto squares, and Uranus conjoins, the CapQ Ascendant. Some serious "tearing down structures" blow.
However, by this time transiting Jupiter is in orb of opposition to CapQ Moon. The key Jupiter day - I'm guessing a significant upswing - is within one day of Sunday, January 8 (which I suspect means Asian markets late on our January 8, then upswing January 9 here) when the Moon-Jupiter opposition is within a few minutes and exactly on the CapQ horizon. This is right before the Canlunar. Transiting Uranus is on the CapQ EP the same day.
OK, so look at January 9 as Bull Day.
If the CanQ matches up, we can get finer tuning from it. If it disagrees, we should probably ignore it. Look at December 27 (Tuesday): The CanQ has t. Neptune on Descendant, t. Mars square MC, Capsolar Saturn square Ascendant. This is a triple malefic pile-up. The puzzle is that it is immediately before the Caplunar and outside the window. I think, therefore, that we have to wait for Friday, December 30 - the day of the Caplunar - for CanQ MC opposite s. Saturn, square t. Neptune, and square t. Mars, plus CanQ Descendant conjunct s. Neptune. If we didn't have the weekend, I'd actually push it a day or two... The Mars-Neptune conjunction is exact on Saturday, December 31, and is square Cansolar Saturn, and all are on the angles.
A New Year Eve attack is hardly out of the question!
Here is something of great interest: This chart ALSO has a Jupiter day beginning late on Sunday, January 8 and sweeping through Monday, January 9. (Ingress Jupiter = CanQ Ascendant.) Both the CanQ and CapQ have this. It seems January 9 (starting with Asian markets) will have a very bullish January 9. The one sore spot: t. Mars on CanQ WP.
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During that whole time, t. Pluto is conjunct the Capsolar MC. It's exact on... January 9!
Transiting Uranus is conjunct the Capsolar EP. Something of possible interest is that t. Jupiter crosses the Capsolar WP on December 23. This sounds like an upswing in the week before December 30. (I'm not certain that's true. Jupiter-Uranus can go both ways, but is usually positive.)
January 7 brings a Sun-Pluto conjunction transiting the Capsolar MC, but that's a Saturday.
Switching to the Cansolar... Transiting Saturn exactly conjoins Cansolar Moon on... December 31. (A New Year Eve attack is definitely not out of the question!)
December 23 when Jupiter transits the Capsolar WP is the same day that transiting Saturn leaves a 1° orb of square the angular Cansolar Jupiter. So, again, I think Friday, December 23 (during last minute Christmas sales) will see some sort of short-term spike in the market.
That's probably the best I can give you, Steve, until such unknown time as I finish the U.S. market panic study. I do think we need to focus on Mars-Neptune as critical factors, and the juggling trade-off of Jupiter and Saturn, with an eye to Uranus and Pluto as shake-up factors.
Transiting Uranus is conjunct the Capsolar EP. Something of possible interest is that t. Jupiter crosses the Capsolar WP on December 23. This sounds like an upswing in the week before December 30. (I'm not certain that's true. Jupiter-Uranus can go both ways, but is usually positive.)
January 7 brings a Sun-Pluto conjunction transiting the Capsolar MC, but that's a Saturday.
Switching to the Cansolar... Transiting Saturn exactly conjoins Cansolar Moon on... December 31. (A New Year Eve attack is definitely not out of the question!)
December 23 when Jupiter transits the Capsolar WP is the same day that transiting Saturn leaves a 1° orb of square the angular Cansolar Jupiter. So, again, I think Friday, December 23 (during last minute Christmas sales) will see some sort of short-term spike in the market.
That's probably the best I can give you, Steve, until such unknown time as I finish the U.S. market panic study. I do think we need to focus on Mars-Neptune as critical factors, and the juggling trade-off of Jupiter and Saturn, with an eye to Uranus and Pluto as shake-up factors.
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SteveS wrote:Two reasons:Jim wrote:Not sure why you are allowing a week before the Caplunar. (I probably don't understand the concepts.) I thought you'd rely on bullish run-up from the 2016 Cansolar, and then look for a break point after the Caplunar, in its period.
1: I have a benefic angular Solar Quarter which begins Dec 19th, with angular Jupiter-Uranus- Pluto; I like the partile angular Jupiter-Uranus aspect. In my life, a couple of times, angular Jupiter-Pluto symbolism brought me large sums of money. Not sure how you feel about Quarter Solars but feel free to offer your expertise. My experience with Demi-Solars, only when there is acute angular symbolism, normally I see manifestations of the symbolism soon after the Demi begins—I figure the same with a Quarter.
2: I taking my Quarter Solar figuring the main symbolism from the Libsolar will manifest with the ugly Caplunar symbolism soon after the Caplunar begins, but the week before the Caplunar may offer many market clues with my reading market experience. I am looking for fast money in a very short period of time—this will be a hit and run trade position with options keyed off the Caplunar producing the main event. Of course, I have to wait and see the actual market conditions before making any final trade decisions, but as for now I am keying my timing with the Quarter Return. When you have time feel free to offer your critical expertise with your opinions. Saturn aspecting Jupiter & Uranus is somewhat worrisome but my risk will be very low (options) with potential for high rewards. Quarter Solar: *I will go into the trade ‘concepts’ later.
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Reposting this thread from July 3-11, 2014 - over two years before the 2016 election - it's obvious now that the "terrorist attack" was a different sort than anyone was anticipating, though the general tone of what we anticipated was entirely right. This sends a shiver or two up and down my spine.
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