I am not sure which method to follow , I will use the debut ( first game ) card of Mourinho and Mendilibar .
Mourinho : his first match was on July 15 2021 , at 18:00 Rome .
Mendilibar : first match was on April 1, 2023 , at 18:30 in Cadiz-Spain.
Lunar Return of Mendilibar's chart , jupiter at 1° of the MC , moon at 5° of the ASC.
Lunar return of Mourinho , no planets at angles, Saturn at 5° of IC .
Neptune square to equatorial Ascendant ?
Champion : Sevilla
Maybe another method will be better than using lunar return , we will see .
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This analysis is wrong, Jupiter is not at 1° of the MC, my mistake, I saw another card.
So champion Sevilla , this analysis is wrong .
So champion Sevilla , this analysis is wrong .
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I am very sorry , but apparently if it is correct , jupiter to 1° of the MC , in the lunar return .
I don't know if it was a software or configuration error .
Jupiter in the MC , has to mean victory .
I am very sorry , but apparently if it is correct , jupiter to 1° of the MC , in the lunar return .
I don't know if it was a software or configuration error .
Jupiter in the MC , has to mean victory .
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Sevilla are champions of Europa Lge for the 7th time 
Man City are heavy favs to lift the champions lge trophy.
Does Inter have any chance of taking it ?
Man City are heavy favs to lift the champions lge trophy.
Does Inter have any chance of taking it ?
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I have to find out the data of the first match of pep Guardiola and Inzagui.
Ideally I would have the clubs foundation letter, but no one has the rectified time.
The letter of the first match is important, it is the first day of work of the coach and you can see if he will succeed or fail.
Ideally I would have the clubs foundation letter, but no one has the rectified time.
The letter of the first match is important, it is the first day of work of the coach and you can see if he will succeed or fail.
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If you want any comment on this, I notice you haven't given us the data necessary to comment: date and expected ending time of the match, location of the match, and home location of the cities (teams) playing.
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The final will be played in Istanbul on 10 June, 22 p.m. local time.
Manchester city , (Manchester)
Internacional , ( Milano)
The data of the first match of both coaches, I will look for them.
Manchester city , (Manchester)
Internacional , ( Milano)
The data of the first match of both coaches, I will look for them.
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Now that we have enough data cris, I will look into this sporting event with Sidereal Mundane Astrology since Jim is on a road trip, and then Jim when he gets back may want to comment further.
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cris25, I see a transiting quarter moon paran on Manchester’s Daily CapQ chart indicative of a significant event (win) for the sports fans of Manchester. However as a recreational sports gambler I see no wagering value for Manchester because the Vegas line has Manchester as a huge favorite to win this game. The betting line is Manchester -300, which means I would have to risk 300$ to win 100$. I only like to risk my recreational $ when I see Sidereal Mundane Astrology offer me 80% probability an underdog will win vs a favored team with Vegas betting line.
Capsolar’s (Master Chart of the year) CapQ Daily Chart (inside wheel); transit chart (outside wheel)
https://ibb.co/Zz6CCpR
Note transiting Moon conjunct Manchester’s CapQ Descendant and transiting Sun conjunct Manchester’s CapQ MC for this Paran. Even without this transiting quarter Moon Paran for Manchester’s CapQ on game day/time, transiting Sun alone on Manchester’s CapQ MC is very good symbolism for the fans of Manchester to see a win for their team. The transiting Sun illuminates Manchester’s CapQ MC.
Capsolar’s (Master Chart of the year) CapQ Daily Chart (inside wheel); transit chart (outside wheel)
https://ibb.co/Zz6CCpR
Note transiting Moon conjunct Manchester’s CapQ Descendant and transiting Sun conjunct Manchester’s CapQ MC for this Paran. Even without this transiting quarter Moon Paran for Manchester’s CapQ on game day/time, transiting Sun alone on Manchester’s CapQ MC is very good symbolism for the fans of Manchester to see a win for their team. The transiting Sun illuminates Manchester’s CapQ MC.
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Hi SteveS , I do not have a software that calculates the quotidian .SteveS wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 10:31 am cris25, I see a transiting quarter moon paran on Manchester’s Daily CapQ chart indicative of a significant event (win) for the sports fans of Manchester. However as a recreational sports gambler I see no wagering value for Manchester because the Vegas line has Manchester as a huge favorite to win this game. The betting line is Manchester -300, which means I would have to risk 300$ to win 100$. I only like to risk my recreational $ when I see Sidereal Mundane Astrology offer me 80% probability an underdog will win vs a favored team with Vegas betting line.
Capsolar’s (Master Chart of the year) CapQ Daily Chart (inside wheel); transit chart (outside wheel)
https://ibb.co/Zz6CCpR
Note transiting Moon conjunct Manchester’s CapQ Descendant and transiting Sun conjunct Manchester’s CapQ MC for this Paran. Even without this transiting quarter Moon Paran for Manchester’s CapQ on game day/time, transiting Sun alone on Manchester’s CapQ MC is very good symbolism for the fans of Manchester to see a win for their team. The transiting Sun illuminates Manchester’s CapQ MC.
I did it following the elaboration of an excel as Jim indicates.
If you could provide me with an excel with all the calculations ( Q2 , PRRS , SQ , etc ) , it would help me a lot , as I use Planetdance and it does not have those options .
I was able to do the same as you , the transits you put Milano , in reality it is Istanbul , still nothing changes , the sun is still in the MC .
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Cris25 wrote:
Cris25 wrote:
Cris25 wrote:
Cris, If you will go to this link: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=364, and prove to me you are interested in a serious study for Jim’s “Report on 50 Super Bowls,” I would be glad to help you as much as needed, but you would need to purchase Solarfire Software where I would be able to teach you how to calculate the necessary charts for Sidereal Mundane Astrology (SMA) with championship games. Sidereal Mundane Astrology is a very much advanced study of Mundane Astrology, and Solarfire is an expensive astrological program. Jim’s link here should only be used as a possible learning tool for sports enthusiasts for possible small recreational/entertaining/fun wagering, more so for just predicting the winner or loser of a game, more so the loser for if you know the loser---you know the winner. Statistically, SMA proves 80% accuracy for predicting winners/losers.
I understand Cris. If you had the same software I had, I would be able to speed up your Sidereal Mundane Astrology learning if you were seriously interested with Sidereal Mundane Astrology as applied to only major championship games.Hi SteveS , I do not have a software that calculates the quotidian.
Cris25 wrote:
Sorry cris but I can’t help you in this area—never used excel in my life.If you could provide me with an excel with all the calculations ( Q2 , PRRS , SQ , etc ) , it would help me a lot , as I use Planetdance and it does not have those options.
Cris25 wrote:
Cris, what you must understand is Sidereal Mundane Astrology only use the town/cities for the two teams playing each other. The location of the game is never used if on a netural field of play.I was able to do the same as you, the transits you put Milano, in reality it is Istanbul , still nothing changes , the sun is still in the MC .
Cris, If you will go to this link: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=364, and prove to me you are interested in a serious study for Jim’s “Report on 50 Super Bowls,” I would be glad to help you as much as needed, but you would need to purchase Solarfire Software where I would be able to teach you how to calculate the necessary charts for Sidereal Mundane Astrology (SMA) with championship games. Sidereal Mundane Astrology is a very much advanced study of Mundane Astrology, and Solarfire is an expensive astrological program. Jim’s link here should only be used as a possible learning tool for sports enthusiasts for possible small recreational/entertaining/fun wagering, more so for just predicting the winner or loser of a game, more so the loser for if you know the loser---you know the winner. Statistically, SMA proves 80% accuracy for predicting winners/losers.
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Thank you very much, I will read what you told me.
Later I will tell you the date of the first match of both trainers (I found them) and help me to calculate QN and SQ and PRRS, if I did it right, venus in transit is next to the ASC of Inter Milan.
Later I will tell you the date of the first match of both trainers (I found them) and help me to calculate QN and SQ and PRRS, if I did it right, venus in transit is next to the ASC of Inter Milan.
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This may help understand the theory. It's an excerpt from the Athletic Competitions chapter of my book Sidereal Mundane Astrology, summarizing the theory of game prediction. For the Super Bowls, this allowed predictions 90% of the time and was accurate for 84% of the predictable Super Bowls, or about 75% of all Super Bowls.
Each year, the Super Bowl is a “battle of the champions” competition between two professional football teams in the National Football League that have competitively risen to the top of their conferences (sub-leagues). Since 1967 it has been the final professional American football game of each season. Vast numbers of football fans across the nation annually devote a weekend to watching the game, often with friends at parties packed with food, beverage, and much excitement. Typically, interest is especially high in those cities with local teams playing in the game that year because these cities have the highest concentration of fans.
Some cities have cultures with more enthusiasm for the game than others. Therefore, some games, representing more intense historic rivalries, naturally draw more attention and more emotional force.
This local enthusiasm and impact are the basis for our theory of the predictability of the winner. Mundane astrology is the study of the masses, not of individuals. Events which merge vast numbers of people into a common “group mind” show more powerfully in the tools used by mundane astrologers. Such events as natural disasters, major political happenings, and other news-dominating contemporary events naturally draw vast numbers of people’s minds to the same topic and sidestep the ego-distinctions of individuals in favor of the mass mind responses of a common herd. Probably no event more typifies this kind of submergence of individual ego-distinctions into a group mind like the intentional, induced mob madness of a major sports event.
Besides the immediate fan involvement during, and in the immediate aftermath of, the game, the Super Bowl creates other practical implications for fans and others. Though the Super Bowl always boasts more parties than even New Year’s Eve in most parts of America, the after-game celebrations are more intense and joyous among fans of the winning team, meaning that they are more abundant and joyous in the home cities of the winning team. Significant economic considerations also exist, not the least of which is through gambling.
Therefore, our basic theory of game prediction centers on mass reaction to the outcome in terms of such things as joyous celebration and economic gain. These are modified by the intensity with which local culture in those cities includes passion for football.
For this working theory to be applicable to a given game, the match must be the biggest event absorbing local consciousness at the time. Usually this is the case with the Super Bowl: relatively few things happen in most cities in a year that are bigger, especially if a local team is playing. Potentially, though, another event could be bigger than a given game.
In a recent year, due to unusually severe winters, much of the Midwest was buried under ice, snow, and extreme cold. This was reflected in the Sidereal lunar ingresses of the time, which mostly had Saturn angular along paths cutting through the affected regions. Many football teams from those regions were competing in playoff games. We wrongly predicted they would lose because of Saturn’s dominance of the most immediate charts. However, many of those teams won. The severe weather, which created economic burdens and during which many died of exposure or suffered hardship, was a more dominant reality than the outcome of the playoff games.
Another striking example is the 1989 World Series. During broadcasted warm-up of one game in San Francisco, the 6.9 magnitude Loma Prieta earthquake struck, killing or injuring thousands of people and causing billions of dollars in property damage. We probably could not have used mundane astrology to pick which team would win anyway, since San Francisco was playing Oakland – effectively identical geographic locations – but, in any case, the earthquake was a bigger deal. The charts, shown in the “Earthquakes” chapter, are a mashup of sports enthusiasm and tragedy.
During 2017 basketball playoffs, charts looked excellent for South Carolina, even though the team was not expected to do well. The Gamecocks exceeded expectations, but eventually were eliminated. A day later, their female counterparts won the title: There was a second story running concurrently.
Additionally, in early attempts to predict other sporting events, success was achieved in games between fierce traditional rivals and the sort of game where one could reasonably say, “The whole town comes out for this one!” However, on lesser games, or even important games where the cities involved do not have a culture of total absorption in a match, the outcome is less predictable. In those cases, the game simply is not the biggest event in most people’s lives in that city at that time.
This history of successes and failures seems to encourage our underlying theory that Sidereal mundane astrology shows not the outcome per se, but the psychological impact of such events on the mass mind of the population of a city or other region.
Each year, the Super Bowl is a “battle of the champions” competition between two professional football teams in the National Football League that have competitively risen to the top of their conferences (sub-leagues). Since 1967 it has been the final professional American football game of each season. Vast numbers of football fans across the nation annually devote a weekend to watching the game, often with friends at parties packed with food, beverage, and much excitement. Typically, interest is especially high in those cities with local teams playing in the game that year because these cities have the highest concentration of fans.
Some cities have cultures with more enthusiasm for the game than others. Therefore, some games, representing more intense historic rivalries, naturally draw more attention and more emotional force.
This local enthusiasm and impact are the basis for our theory of the predictability of the winner. Mundane astrology is the study of the masses, not of individuals. Events which merge vast numbers of people into a common “group mind” show more powerfully in the tools used by mundane astrologers. Such events as natural disasters, major political happenings, and other news-dominating contemporary events naturally draw vast numbers of people’s minds to the same topic and sidestep the ego-distinctions of individuals in favor of the mass mind responses of a common herd. Probably no event more typifies this kind of submergence of individual ego-distinctions into a group mind like the intentional, induced mob madness of a major sports event.
Besides the immediate fan involvement during, and in the immediate aftermath of, the game, the Super Bowl creates other practical implications for fans and others. Though the Super Bowl always boasts more parties than even New Year’s Eve in most parts of America, the after-game celebrations are more intense and joyous among fans of the winning team, meaning that they are more abundant and joyous in the home cities of the winning team. Significant economic considerations also exist, not the least of which is through gambling.
Therefore, our basic theory of game prediction centers on mass reaction to the outcome in terms of such things as joyous celebration and economic gain. These are modified by the intensity with which local culture in those cities includes passion for football.
For this working theory to be applicable to a given game, the match must be the biggest event absorbing local consciousness at the time. Usually this is the case with the Super Bowl: relatively few things happen in most cities in a year that are bigger, especially if a local team is playing. Potentially, though, another event could be bigger than a given game.
In a recent year, due to unusually severe winters, much of the Midwest was buried under ice, snow, and extreme cold. This was reflected in the Sidereal lunar ingresses of the time, which mostly had Saturn angular along paths cutting through the affected regions. Many football teams from those regions were competing in playoff games. We wrongly predicted they would lose because of Saturn’s dominance of the most immediate charts. However, many of those teams won. The severe weather, which created economic burdens and during which many died of exposure or suffered hardship, was a more dominant reality than the outcome of the playoff games.
Another striking example is the 1989 World Series. During broadcasted warm-up of one game in San Francisco, the 6.9 magnitude Loma Prieta earthquake struck, killing or injuring thousands of people and causing billions of dollars in property damage. We probably could not have used mundane astrology to pick which team would win anyway, since San Francisco was playing Oakland – effectively identical geographic locations – but, in any case, the earthquake was a bigger deal. The charts, shown in the “Earthquakes” chapter, are a mashup of sports enthusiasm and tragedy.
During 2017 basketball playoffs, charts looked excellent for South Carolina, even though the team was not expected to do well. The Gamecocks exceeded expectations, but eventually were eliminated. A day later, their female counterparts won the title: There was a second story running concurrently.
Additionally, in early attempts to predict other sporting events, success was achieved in games between fierce traditional rivals and the sort of game where one could reasonably say, “The whole town comes out for this one!” However, on lesser games, or even important games where the cities involved do not have a culture of total absorption in a match, the outcome is less predictable. In those cases, the game simply is not the biggest event in most people’s lives in that city at that time.
This history of successes and failures seems to encourage our underlying theory that Sidereal mundane astrology shows not the outcome per se, but the psychological impact of such events on the mass mind of the population of a city or other region.
Jim Eshelman
www.jeshelman.com
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I understand Jim , what happens when there are 2 powerful teams that are from the same city .
The sun in the MC of Manchester capsolar quotidian , could it also mean the joy of the rival ( Manchester united ) for seeing their rival defeated ?
The sun in the MC of Manchester capsolar quotidian , could it also mean the joy of the rival ( Manchester united ) for seeing their rival defeated ?
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I would like Internacional to win, I can't hide it hahaha, that's where the idol of many of us South Americans played, the great Ronaldo Nazario, the phenomenon.
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Friends, I have Inzagui's debut letter.
17 July 2021 , 6:30 pm UT , Lugano
I am very sorry , but I am doing the calculations by hand .
SQ relocated to Istanbul , ASC 10 aries ; MC 24 sagittarius .
Is it correct ?
In case it is correct , transiting jupiter is 30 minutes away from ASC SQ .
Is it correct ?
QN there is only a trine of jupiter to MC and transiting jupiter trine to ASC QN ( I don't know if we have to give importance to it ? )
PRRS , ASC 5° cancer with mercury , and moon conjunct jupiter
Pluto in transit conjunct DSC.
Is everything correct ? I will have to buy solar fire.
17 July 2021 , 6:30 pm UT , Lugano
I am very sorry , but I am doing the calculations by hand .
SQ relocated to Istanbul , ASC 10 aries ; MC 24 sagittarius .
Is it correct ?
In case it is correct , transiting jupiter is 30 minutes away from ASC SQ .
Is it correct ?
QN there is only a trine of jupiter to MC and transiting jupiter trine to ASC QN ( I don't know if we have to give importance to it ? )
PRRS , ASC 5° cancer with mercury , and moon conjunct jupiter
Pluto in transit conjunct DSC.
Is everything correct ? I will have to buy solar fire.