SteveS wrote:Yesterday I discovered a most striking Kinetic Lunar Return (KLR) pertaining to a family crises. Yesterday I got a chance to talk with my sister-in-law in private who told me her experience with the premature birth of her son’s 2nd child was the most “depressed panic-stricken” she has ever been in her life. I posted extensively about this family crises at the following link: http://www.solunars.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3778
My sister-in-law AA rated birth: Sept 30 1953 4:32 PM EST Atlanta, Georgia. She resides in Birmingham, Alabama. Her most striking KLR occurred on 11/18/2014 6:23:28 AM CST Birmingham, Alabama. Note the triple Paran of Sun-Saturn-Neptune:
Asc: 00,37 Scorpio
Sun: 01,08 Scorpio
Saturn 01,00 Scorpio
IC: 09,44 Aqu
Neptune 09,51 Aqu.
Note Natal Pluto 00,10 Leo partile 90 KLR Sun-Saturn for shocking event.
Ebertin says about Sun-Saturn-Neptune combos:
I will be writing more about what Fagan said about Kinetic’s Return Charts. I think Jim has posted somewhere on the forum Solar Fire instructions how to compute Kinetics’. A KLR is a return chart struck when transiting Moon exactly conjuncts one's secondary progressed Natal Moon.A mental, emotional or physical crisis.
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Re: Kinetic Lunar Return (KLR)
Here's a summary of the instructions given on the other KLR thread in this Lunar Returns forum. There isn't a DIRECT calculation for Kinetic Returns, but there is a trick that can get you within a minute or two (close enough for most work).
Be sure the progression rate is set at Q2 before you start.
Create a Displayed Points list called "Moon" that has only the Moon in it. Also, if you don't already have it, create an Aspect Set called HARM01 (for "1st Harmonic") that has only conjunctions, and one called HARM02 (for "2nd harmonic") that has only conjunctions and oppositions.
Then run Dynamic > Transits & Progressions. Select your current locale and time zone. In the middle column, only check "Transits to Progressed." Under Point Selection, pick your "Moon" point selection for everything (i.e., for both Transits & Progs). Under "Aspect Selection," pick HARM01 if you only want the conjunction return or HARM02 if you want to include the Demis.
What you're doing is getting a list of the dates and times of all conjunctions (and, optionally, oppositions) of transiting Moon to progressed Moon. This calculation routine is not quite as accurate as the return calculation routine, but (in anything I've seen) is within a minute or two. You can always fine-tune it manually.
When you have the Dynamic Events Report up (the list of KLR dates), click "View Chart" and it will immediately display a two-ring wheel of the KLR with progressed planets on the inner ring!
You can save this work and use it again. After you have the Dynamic Reports Selwction the way you want it, click Save Selection and give it a name. (I named mine, "Kinetic Lunar Returns.") Then, in the future, it's just a click or two.
TIP: Before saving it, look at the left third of the Dynamic Reports Selection, in the section headed Period of Report. Click Date Options. Pick "Relative to current date," check the "Go to" box, and pick Start of Month. Click OK. Set Period to 2 months. This will then produce four consecutive charts (full & demi) beginning the start of the present month.
Be sure the progression rate is set at Q2 before you start.
Create a Displayed Points list called "Moon" that has only the Moon in it. Also, if you don't already have it, create an Aspect Set called HARM01 (for "1st Harmonic") that has only conjunctions, and one called HARM02 (for "2nd harmonic") that has only conjunctions and oppositions.
Then run Dynamic > Transits & Progressions. Select your current locale and time zone. In the middle column, only check "Transits to Progressed." Under Point Selection, pick your "Moon" point selection for everything (i.e., for both Transits & Progs). Under "Aspect Selection," pick HARM01 if you only want the conjunction return or HARM02 if you want to include the Demis.
What you're doing is getting a list of the dates and times of all conjunctions (and, optionally, oppositions) of transiting Moon to progressed Moon. This calculation routine is not quite as accurate as the return calculation routine, but (in anything I've seen) is within a minute or two. You can always fine-tune it manually.
When you have the Dynamic Events Report up (the list of KLR dates), click "View Chart" and it will immediately display a two-ring wheel of the KLR with progressed planets on the inner ring!
You can save this work and use it again. After you have the Dynamic Reports Selwction the way you want it, click Save Selection and give it a name. (I named mine, "Kinetic Lunar Returns.") Then, in the future, it's just a click or two.
TIP: Before saving it, look at the left third of the Dynamic Reports Selection, in the section headed Period of Report. Click Date Options. Pick "Relative to current date," check the "Go to" box, and pick Start of Month. Click OK. Set Period to 2 months. This will then produce four consecutive charts (full & demi) beginning the start of the present month.
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Re: Kinetic Lunar Return (KLR)
Apr 23, 2019
staragewiz wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2019 12:41 pm Your KLR example of your sister-in-law's unfortunate event is
duplicated exactly in Janus 5...which offers a KLR direct calculation option.
So you won't have to go through those many steps in Solar Fire.
Years ago when Janus astro-software was just staring out (1999-2000)
I sent them Fagan's KLR calculation to include in their next upgrade.
Which they did, along with Fagan's neo-SQ and neo-PSSR calc's.
KLR's also applicable for Solar Returns.
However,Janus's Solar Kinetic calculation does not match Fagan's. (Primer of Sidereal Astrology)
Janus 5 is today's most wired Sidereal software.
Cheers!
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